Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #178
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 00:13:36 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #178, Volume #2               Wed, 12 Oct 94 00:13:36 EDT

Contents:
  Re: TEAC IDE 4x CD ROM (Jasna M. Arezina-Wilson)
  Please let me know name of HD management SW available at sunsite? (N B Venkateswarlu)
  Re: Compressed FS for Linux? (N B Venkateswarlu)
  Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...' (Mark Lord)
  Re: HOstname (none) and What Slack Version (Daniel Tran)
  The tale of the changing password (Chee-Kiang Lim)
  Re: Please don't post security holess... (Alan Cox)
  Broken pipe,x,client error (Erich E. Singer)
  Re: looking for [email-masked] (Donald Becker)
  Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux (Hans de Vreught)
  Re: Security hole - has noone noticed so far? (Dirk J.)
  Re: The Linux Filesystem Standard. Where? (Daniel Quinlan)
  Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Paul Christenson [N3EOP])
  Re: Please don't post security holess... (Orc)
  BUPS-HOWTO warning (Marek Michalkiewicz)
  Re: SCSI vs IDE (Donald Becker)
  [Q] 7168VMD (Opti MAD 16) Compatible? (Scott J. Ellentuch)
  smail smart_user problem (Srini Seetharam)
  Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Tryst)
  Re: What's failed after Bogomips (Ron Helms)

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From: [email-masked] (Jasna M. Arezina-Wilson)
Subject: Re: TEAC IDE 4x CD ROM
Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:26:40 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
(S.hoffar) wrote:

>       Ok, I wanted to buy the new Teac quad speed drive, but apparently
> Linux isn't supporting it(Called SSC today).  I was wondering if anyone
> says otherwise, or if someone knows forsure that their is a driver being
> worked on.  I believe that the CD player usually get interfaced through a
> sound card.  I wanted to run linux off it....can someone help! :)             

I have one of these and I called Teac yesterday on the subject (try their
tech support - it's good). It uses a Panasonic interface, but NOT the
Panasonic drivers (aka Aztech/Mitsumi). They will have programming info
available in a few weeks for people who want to write their own drivers
(what impressed me was that he wasn't phazed by my request!)

==========================================
"...when friends rejoice both far and near
 How can I keep from singing?" - Enya

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From: [email-masked] (N B Venkateswarlu)
Subject: Please let me know name of HD management SW available at sunsite?
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:16:49 +0100 (BST)

Hi,
    Some days back I have seen an article which mention about a package which
is available at sunsite.unc.edu to increase/decrease the partition sizes with
out distrubing the files. If you know, could you please forward its name to me.

  Thanks

   Venkat

PS:- I am using slackware version of linux

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From: [email-masked] (N B Venkateswarlu)
Subject: Re: Compressed FS for Linux?
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:19:31 +0100 (BST)

I remember some one mentioning "tcx-linux.tar.gz" to use for compressed
executables.

    venkat

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Lord)
Subject: Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...'
Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:44:09 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
< [*] Delman Lee writes:
<
<   ] Will try and fix it in the atdisk2 code....
<
<The 1.1.52-diffs in mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu:pub/delman should fix the
<problem. It fakes the bios geometry from the real physical geometry by
<halving the cylinders (and doubling the heads) until cyl<=1024.

Ugh!  This will cause trouble.

The correct solution for linux 1.1.x is to simply define the drive
as having 32 (or 64) heads in the BIOS CMOS setup.  Then DOS, linux, 
and most other stuff will handle it just fine.
-- 
[email-masked]    Mark Lord       BNR Ottawa,Canada       613-763-7482

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Tran)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HOstname (none) and What Slack Version
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:10:45 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Diane L. Calleson) writes:

>I don't seem to have a "network node hostname"
>ie.  if I enter the "uname -a " command  I get

>        Linux (none) 1.0 #2 Sat Apr 2 03:15:37 CST 1994 i386

>BTW , WHAT Version of Linux am I on?  I don't seem to be able to 
>tell iff I am using the Slackware 2.0 or not.

Version 1.0 
Latest is 1.1.52 or 53 

>So right now my "network node hostname is (none).

>This is different from /etc/HOSTNAME which I have set to 'home.calleson.com'
>and it is also in my /etc/hosts file.

>Someone mentioned that there were two different versions of hostname/domainname
>that are installed with Slackware 1.0 and Slackware 2.0...
>Can someone who knows what is going on please expound on this?

Really don't know much about the Slackware 2.0 distribution.  I used 1.0 and
1.20 dist.  Based on your kernel version, i think you used slackware 1.0 dist. 
kit.

Try this: /etc/hostname
put in hostname.domainname (e.g: diane.cs.virginia.edu)

In /etc/hosts
local_ipaddress   diane.cs.virginia.edu

Daniel Tran - [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Chee-Kiang Lim)
Subject: The tale of the changing password
Date: 12 Oct 1994 00:29:27 GMT

I have encountered this problem and I hope someone can point out a fix
to me. I have a user foo on my machine. foo forgots his password, so I
su and used "passwd foo" to change his password. That works fine for a
few days but then foo's password becomes no longer valid for some weird
reason. So I su again and change his password. The problem now is that
foo's new password works, but the the root password no longer works.
When I su with foo's new password, it works. Is there something I am
doing wrong here ?

Kernel: 1.1.18 (Slackware 2.0.0)

PS: cc replies to me via mail too since traffic here is too much for me
to read it everyday.

cheeky

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From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess...
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:31:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Panzer Boy) writes:
>naive.  If you expect by not posting publically that there are holes in 
>systems, and expect that only "good" guys will get that information, then 
>you are also extremely naive.  You could wait for the CERT advisory about 
>SMAIL, I'm sure one will be out in 4-6 weeks from now...

As the admin of a machine that got broken into purely because CERT sat on 
the 8.6.8 sendmail bug and didn't tell the world I regard telling everyone
as the important bit - then people can patch around it and it gets fixed
quickly. 

Alan

-- 
  ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
 // Alan Cox  //  [email-masked]   //  GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU  //
 ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''

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From: [email-masked] (Erich E. Singer)
Subject: Broken pipe,x,client error
Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:14:30 GMT

help :      
 
my video card is ATI Mach64, monitor is Gateway 2000,
crystal scan. Since there is no batabase for my card 
from modeDB.txt, I just chose vgawonder as my shipset,
and set vgawonder's clock as my clock. resolution
I chose 1024x768, 800x600,640x480.
After I run stratx(I use XF86_SVGA as my server),
machine can detect the clocks,mode,virtual resolution,
but gives me info like this:
XIO :fatal IO error(Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
after 386 requests(390 known proceeed) with 0 
events remaning.
waiting for X server to shutdown
xinit:Unknown error(error 0):client error.
.................................................
did anybody have the same experience?
pls let me know! many thanks!!!

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From: [email-masked] (Donald Becker)
Subject: Re: looking for [email-masked]
Date: 6 Oct 1994 13:56:16 -0400

In article <sej.781366036@interaccess>,
Stephen Johnson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm loking for [email-masked] that wrote the 3c509 drivers for Linux.
>Mail sent to [email-masked] bounces...any ideas.

Yes, do the usual thing: send lots of nasty mail to [email-masked].

[[ Every other place I've been, my account was kept for several years.  In
contrast super.org seems to want to forget that I ever existed. ]]

-- 
Donald Becker                                     [email-masked]
USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center,  Greenbelt, MD.  20771
301-286-0882         http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html

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From: [email-masked] (Hans de Vreught)
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Hans de Vreught)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 08:56:09 GMT

[email-masked] (Florian Schmidt) writes:

>marshall giguere ([email-masked]) wrote:
>> 1. Is it necessary to have both root and usr partition?

>it certainly is not necessary to use seperate partitions for / and /usr.
>but there are probably some good arguments for it (i don't know them (except
>for a safer root-partition (fs-corruption is more probable on a heavy used
>/usr-partition than on a root-partition, which is mainly used at startup)).

In theory you should be able to mount /usr as readonly (see Linux' FSSTND),
all writeable stuff of /usr should go in /var. You have 4 main candidates for
separate partitions:
* / except the ones mentioned below: this part is as small as possible since
  it is only used to boot and do FS repair (or something similar).
* /usr should/could be readonly.
* /var must be writable.
* /home

The benefit of several partitions is that:
* readonly FSs don't corrupt (well, they shouldn't); but when you (sysadmin)
  need to add software to /usr, you must remount the FS as writeable and
  afterwards as readonly again.
* a corrupt partition doesn't harm the other partitions.

The main disadvantage is that you need some planning on the sizes of the
partitions, it is laborous to do it afterwards (and you need lots of free
space either on disk or on floppies...).
-- 
Hans de Vreught                  | John von Neumann:
[email-masked] | Young man, in mathematics
Delft University of Technology   | you don't understand things,
The Netherlands                  | you just get used to them.

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Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
From: [email-masked] (Dirk J.)
Subject: Re: Security hole - has noone noticed so far?
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 01:26:26 GMT

[email-masked] (Nick Andrew) writes:

>Which version of sendmail is the fix against? I tried it under sendmail 8.6.9
>(the latest) and there was no problem.

it's a "smail" bug.
-- 
biafra@acab.[isdn.cs.tu|in]-berlin.de (Dirk Jaeckel)
GCS d--->---- H s+:- g+ !p au*  a- w+ v(?) C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L++
    3+>++ E---  N++>+++  K- W---- M !V p--- Y+>++ t++@ 5-- !j G? 
    tv++>! b++ D--- B? e+ u* h+(--) f+ r- !n y? 

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Quinlan)
Subject: Re: The Linux Filesystem Standard. Where?
Date: 04 Oct 1994 17:51:39 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Nick Kralevich <[email-masked]> writes:

> Where can I get a copy of the Linux file system standard?

/[email-masked]:/pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/fsstnd.

It is due to be updated.

- Dan
-- 
Daniel Quinlan  <[email-masked]>

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:05:35 EDT
From: Paul Christenson [N3EOP] <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] says:
>
>There is a package used by a lot of DOS BBS's called BinkleyTerm that
>is also available in a UNIX flavor.  It is used primarily as a mailer
>that distinguishes between human and machine callers; it passes human
>calls to the BBS and machine calls to the mail handling programs.  One
>of it's features is that it passes a parameter showing the baud rate
>of the call, which can be picked up by any interested program for
>determining DL time, etc.

Don't bother with Binkley under *nix.  There are other programs that
offer all the functionality without the limitations of Binkley.

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From: [email-masked] (Orc)
Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess...
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 23:22:27 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
M. K. Shenk <[email-masked]> wrote:
>But it's not a dwelling space, and it can be very easily argued (of course,
>antyhing can be easily argued by most folks)  that infringements on a
>virtual space, a computer system, should not be treated as seriously as 
>those on a dwelling space.

   It's not a "virtual space" -- the machine is sitting there,
eating electricity and producing heat.  If you want to visit it,
it's simple courtesy to ask first, just as it's considered polite
to ask someone if you can visit their house.

                ____
  david parsons \bi/ [email-masked]
                 \/

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From: [email-masked] (Marek Michalkiewicz)
Subject: BUPS-HOWTO warning
Date: 6 Oct 1994 18:38:15 GMT

If you want to connect the APC Back-UPS to your Linux box, this might
be of interest to you.

There is a good BUPS-HOWTO which describes how to do this. But it has
one "bug".

The RTS serial port signal is used to shut down the UPS. The UPS will
shut down only if it operates from its battery. The manual says that
the shutdown signal must be high for at least 0.5s. But few milliseconds
is enough, at least for my APC Back-UPS 600.

Using RTS to shut down the UPS can be dangerous, because the RTS goes
high when the serial device is opened. The backupsd program then turns
RTS off, but it is on (high) for a moment. This kills the power when
backupsd is first started and there is a power failure at this time.
This can happen for example when the UPS is shut down, unattended,
and the power comes back for a while.

Either start backupsd before mounting any filesystems for read-write,
or (better) use TX (pin 3) instead of RTS (pin 7) to shut down the
UPS (pin numbers are for 9-pin plug). Use ioctl(fd, TCSBRKP, 10);
to make TX high for one second, for example. Using TX should be safe.
Maybe I will post the diffs if time permits...

-- Marek Michalkiewicz
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Donald Becker)
Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE
Date: 6 Oct 1994 14:51:05 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
Mark A. Davis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Iain J. Bryson) writes:
>
>>Hi.  I am interested in hearing people advocating
>>which is better, IDE or SCSI.  One big advantage
>>for SCSI would be more disks and CD-ROMS not
>>taking up a slot... But it that worth the 
>>extra cost of a (good?) controller?  How about
>>speed?
>
>SCSI is faster, more flexible, allows more types of devices (just about 
>anything), does not slow down the CPU, works infinately better with
>multitasking, has devices which really cost very little more than other
>types, allows connection of up to seven devices per controller, is more
>standardized, is universally accepted, ensures you will keep your
>investment in SCSI devices, is much more portable, etc....

I disagree with almost every one of those statements.
 o A VLB IDE controller can provide excellent data transfer performance with
   a much lower command overhead than SCSI.
 o SCSI controllors do slow down the CPU, some more than others.  The 53c80
   on my sound card might look like an extreme example to you, but it's
   typical of the average SCSI controller.  It's a CPU hog.  Even bus-master
   controllers compete for bus bandwidth.
 o SCSI drives do cost considerably more.  The typical IDE drive advertised
   in our local paper is a 540M at $239.  The same drive hardware with a
   SCSI controller is $380.  The "sweet spot" for SCSI drivers is a 1.0G
   (1.2G unformatted) drive at $599.  A 1.0G IDE drive is $495.  [[ I know
   you've seen better prices, I'm using the Washington Post as a uniform
   source of local prices. ]]
 o SCSI controllers cost a lot more than IDE controllers.  A VLB super-I/O
   IDE controller is under $20.  An ISA or VLB SCSI controller, which comes
   without the 2S/1P/1G, costs $100-$400.
 o IDE is far more standardized and common.  I've read that over 90% of the
   drives sold are IDE.  And there's no worry about which commands are
   supported, cabling or termination.
 o IDE drives do have a limited "disconnect" ability.  Modern drives
   silently do read-ahead on the current track, and you can issue a
   "seek" (IDE command 0x7*, which immediately disconnects) to move the
   the heads to a new track.  The disconnect issue doesn't apply to writes,
   which are accepted immediately and buffered while the heads move into
   position.  It also doesn't affect the typical user with a single primary
   drive. 
 o Setting up a >528M IDE drive is still much less complicated than SCSI.

I personally think that the best hope for SCSI is the NCR '810 and AMD '974,
which put can put SCSI on a PCI motherboard for about $30.  That's only
$80-$100 by the time it gets to you or me.

-- 
Donald Becker                                     [email-masked]
USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center,  Greenbelt, MD.  20771
301-286-0882         http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html

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From: [email-masked] (Scott J. Ellentuch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: [Q] 7168VMD (Opti MAD 16) Compatible?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:19:27 GMT

Hello,

      I just went out and bought a PC, and when I did it I took the 
HARDWARE-HOWTO with me.  I grilled the salesman (Tim) about the options 
and I got what I thought to be the best config.  One of the point I 
forgot about was the CD-Rom.  

        I bought a Multi-media package, and it had the CDROM and Sound 
card.  The CDRom is a Sony CD33, connected to a :

                OPTi MAD 16
                7168VMD Audio Card

Has anyone gotten this before?  Will it work?  PLEASE send a message to  
me and I'll let others know if they want.  

        Thanks, and if it works I'll be installing VERY soon.

                                        Scott

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From: [email-masked] (Srini Seetharam)
Subject: smail smart_user problem
Date: 12 Oct 1994 00:07:29 GMT

I am runing smail on slackware 1.2 with kernel 1.1.49
smail version 3.1.28.1

I have a linux machine connected with a modem to the Internet
provider. This Linux machine is connected via ethernet to
another machine which has all the user accounts.

          -------------          ---------------
  modem  |            | ethernet |             |
  ------ Linux Machine  --------- Users machine
         |            |          |             |
         --------------          ---------------

The linux machine has only 2 user accounts on it, while the Users
machine has about 25 or so.

The linux machine receives mail from the internet for

 [email-masked]

The user joe is valid on the users machine, but not on the Linux machine.

I am trying to use the smart_user driver to forward all unknown addresses
to the users machine.

Any mail originating from the linux machine to the user :  joe
gets to his machine via the smart_user driver. However, any mail from the
internet for [email-masked]  (my domain name), gets rejected by the 
linux machine with the error message : Unknown_User

Please help !
--
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Tryst)
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:32:35 -0700

Matthew Francey ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Greg Corteville) writes:
: >I'm currently in the process of setting up a BBS under Linux.  All of the 
: >BBS software I've seen for Linux already is cryptic, difficult to use for 
: >callers used to MS-DOS boards, and not very configurable.

: basically, you need no "BBS Software" for a Linux machine.  just setup
: the users like yourself, turn on the modem and away you go.

: well, er, there are a few other things (of course), but thats about it.

: >modify it to eliminate shell escapes and other security hazards.

: instead of worrying about the prospect of those irritating users
: getting access to the shell, why not just up and *give* it to them
: and concern yourself with other aspects of security.

: there are benefits to this approach.

: a) it is *much* easier.
: b) the users will appreciate it (eventually ... there will be whiners)
: c) you can concentrate instead on writing documentation and instruction
:    files for your users.
: d) it throws the security problem into the area of general unix security,
:    and there are piles of books on this to educate you.  *** THIS IS VITAL
:    EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO RESTRICT SHELL ACCESS ***
***
Oh and dont forget to give passwords to gonzo and snake ;^)
: e) system administration becomes identical to that on a standard unix
:    machine ... again, there are many books to help you here as well.
: f) it is completely consistent with the flavour and operating style of a
:    UNIX machine.  as the Borg say:  resistance is futile.

: virtually all commercial internet providers will give you a shell if
: you ask.  they are not terribly concerned about "security", beyond what
: steps they have taken at a lower level (see (d), above).

: Heck, the one I use even lets me (shock! dismay!) *compile code*.
A few even allow one to run background processes...
: >I'll use the gopher system (which is already set-up and merely needs to 
: >be called from the BBS) as a means to access this information.  I need 
: >the BBS software that will provide message and file areas as well as 
: >E-mail.  It would also be nice to have FIDO (internal or external, 
: >doesn't matter) support and Usenet support. 

: why re-invent the wheel?

: a) use the "gopher" program directly for gopher
: b) use a standard news reader for reading news
: c) use a standard mail reader for reading mail

: documentation exists for all these programs. and all of them are
: actually easier to use and *much* more flexible than their MS-DOS
: counterparts.

: >login time

: yes, this is a stickler for most Linux machines as they come out of the
: box.  however, it is very easy to write a C program to punt idle
: users, and over-limit sessions, off the line.  mine is 155 lines long.

: you will probably need a disk-space quota thing as well ... but most Linux
: machines come with such.  you will have to learn how to enable it.
If you got your linux system by downloading all the fiels piecemeal like 
I did, you will have to apply the quota patch.
 
: >                                              The system should be easy to 
: >use because a majority of my users will be used to MS-DOS type boards 
: >like Renegade and Tag.
Most users I've talked to these days want all the benifits of a Unix shell,
and many will insist on TCP/IP, which, unfortunately is expensive.
UUCP is cost effective, but doesnt give telnet and ftp, which is what 
they are all screaming for...
[ Of course theres that TCP/IP emulator called TERM...]

: there is *big* interest in things UNIX by alot of MS-DOS users out there.
: i suspect your users will rise to the "challenge", except for the chronic
: and terminal whiners (but you know who they are by now).  for those, run
: the old MSDOS BBS program inside a DOSemu session.  they deserve it. :)

: >UUCP.  [detroit area]

: there is probably a "detroit.general" newsgroup (or something similar).
: just post a message there asking for a UUCP link ... it's a start.
: UUCP links are fairly easy to negotiate.  for mine, I asked a guy "Can I
: have a UUCP feed?" and he said "Ok".
I just wish my UUCP provider would actually start sending the news feeds 
to my site like it's supposed too..
: >I have a lot of questions and if 
you've read up to the end of this : >message I appreciate it already.

: well, considering my tone, you probably don't appreciate it.  ["miserable
I apreciate it though :)
: running-dog Linux elitist scum!" you are probably muttering :-]  alot of the
: above looks like I am sneering at *you* in particular, but thats not the
: case.  i am laughing at the idea of a "BBS Program" for Linux, and am somewhat
: concerned at the prospect of an MSDOS front end (and all that it implies)
: on a Linux machine.  for Linux offers you and your users a real escape from
: the basic limitations of the MS-DOS remote-access model.

I, like you, am of the same mind...I intend to right a simple shell 
script for 'beginners' who are not used to linux; but they can switch to 
a standard shell like csh bash or zsh anytime they wish, and I suspect 
once they are used to the environment they will want to :^)

*****************************************************************************
Tryst, who taps his foot waitning for his news feeds...
E-mail: root@vsr.[waiting for this too].com
        [email-masked]
voice : (310) 696-4907
dial-up:(310) 698-0841, (310) 698-3403, more to come
*****************************************************************************
Current Operating hours: Never, until I start getting my d*mned feeds :^)

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From: [email-masked] (Ron Helms)
Subject: Re: What's failed after Bogomips
Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:16:19 GMT

The fail I got on the line with bogomips was 'delay calibration failed'.
Not sure what it meant, but it did not give me any problems.

RonHelms

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