Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #206
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 23:13:52 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #206, Volume #2               Sun, 16 Oct 94 23:13:52 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Xfig (wong tsang han)
  Re: On PPP I can FTP but not SMTP (Al Longyear)
  Re: talkd does NOT work; where to find patches? (Sami M{kel{)
  Re: Need XF3.1 compiled Mosaic (Karsten Steffens)
  HELP for HDB-UUCP via TCP/IP (Thomas Rose)
  Re: PPP documents anywhere? (Al Longyear)
  Re: Xfig (wong tsang han)
  Loopback problem (Guy Beaver)
  Re: [Q] 4M -> 8M RAM worth it? (Tang Ting Fook)
  Re: formatting tapes (Joel M. Hoffman)
  Help Setting up mail (Douglas Rankin)
  Re: Help Setting up mail (Douglas Rankin)
  Re: Cron Problems - Script runs from shell but not cron (Patrick Schaaf)
  Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...' (Delman Lee)
  XFree86 and fonts (Michael Esler)
  Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Dan Pop)
  Re: Please don't post security holess... (Matthew Dharm)
  olwm & XFree 3.1 (Chi-Chung Hui)

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From: [email-masked] (wong tsang han)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: Xfig
Date: 13 Oct 1994 03:19:18 GMT

jon m ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>,
: Uwe Bonnes <[email-masked]> wrote:

: >Look at the messages of the last time. This has been answered many times
: >before:
: >There's a cyclic reference in the application-defaults
: NOW.  why does just about EVERY blasted X program have this in their
: app-defaults!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a cyclic reference)

Ok, so where can I get the 'message of the last time'?? Is there an 
archive of this newsgroup somewhere on the net?? Please give some pointers!

BTW, where is this cyclic reference in the app-defaults??

NOTE: xfig2.1.8 runs fine on my DEC 3000/300X, but the same xfig2.1.8 on 
my Linux just eats up all the memory and swap space!!!

HELP!!
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[*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*]
 | Wong Tsang Han                     |                                   |
 | National University of Singapore   |                                   |
 | e-mail: [email-masked]       |                                   |
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                Only a few good things in Life comes free,
                          Linux is one of them.

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Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp
From: [email-masked] (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: On PPP I can FTP but not SMTP
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:41:55 GMT

[email-masked] (Michele Bini) writes:

>I just installed PPP 2.1.1 on two Linux boxes, to setup a
>point-to-point modem link (with no Internet connection).

>The two systems are referred to as cassandra and pegasus in the
>following.

>The following work:

> ftp
> telnet
> rlogin
> finger

>But the following don't:

> talk (exits complaining with an "aborted talkd write: network is
>       unreachable" immediately after having sent the talk request to
>       the other machine talkd (the other machine rings, then talk
>       exits))

"network is unreachable" is an error in your routes. It comes from one
place and one place only. It only comes from the networking software,
AND NOT PPP. Check that you have a route to the target IP address.

Both machines must have a route to the other.

Make sure that you haven't done something stupid such as putting your
host name on the loopback address (127.0.0.1).

> smail on smtp (when a message is sent from, say, cassandra, it
>                arrives to pegasus, but something goes wrong, and it's
>                not delivered. However, on cassandra, root receives a
>                mail messages, originating from MAIL-DAEMOD@pegasus,
>                showing a log about an smtp transfer which seems to
>                imply that the message arrived to pegasus, but then,
>                while pegasus was trying to do something in reply,
>                network went down ("network is unreachable" again))

See above. Same reason.
-- 
Al Longyear           [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Sami M{kel{)
Subject: Re: talkd does NOT work; where to find patches?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 23:15:22 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Andrew Robert Ellsworth ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>, Jim Ockers <[email-masked]> wrote:

: >The linux box will receive talk connections from other hosts but always
: >fails when trying to establish the connection.  Also it always fails when
: >attempting to initiate a talk connection.  Essentially I can listen but
: >I can't talk unless the "talkee" is on localhost.
: >
: >I am 100% confident that the problem is with the Linux talk daemon,
: >because all of the others can make talk connections amongst themselves
: >which work quite well.  The only one that will not communicate is linux.

: Before you go off the deep end and cause a fuss, could you post the error
: message you're getting?  If it's something like "can't bind to control socket",
: then you need to put an entry for yourself in /etc/hosts.  I'm running a SLIP
: connection, and I had the exact same problems you're describing when trying to
: initiate a talk session, and adding myself to /etc/hosts (not as loopback, but 
: as your hostname + your IP) solved the problem.

: Let me know if this works.

: Andy Ellsworth
: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Karsten Steffens)
Subject: Re: Need XF3.1 compiled Mosaic
Date: 14 Oct 1994 08:04:14 GMT

X11R5 and X11R6 are slightly incompatable on the source level - that's not
astonishing. For instance try to compile the Motif Xterm wich lies on
sunsite in .../X11/xutils/terms/mxterm-R5-color.tar.Z. If you tweak it
to read the R5-includefiles it comiles ok. If you let it take the 
R6-includefiles it will fail in several subroutines due to changed definition
of some X-intrinsics. (This example is academic, because even if you 
succeed to compile mxterm with R6 you won't be able to link it, though. 
I just mention to show an example where existing R5 software is definitely
incompatable with R6 on the source level.) 
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From: [email-masked] (Thomas Rose)
Subject: HELP for HDB-UUCP via TCP/IP
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 13:57:33 GMT

Hi !

I have a big problem !

Could somebody please, please send me his systems, dialers, devices Files
when he uses hdb-uucp via tcp/ip. Please send also the neddes conf Files 
for the remote Machine !

               Thanks
                         Tom

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Telefon:     +49 5251 370231 | +49 211 707484
E-Mail :     [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: PPP documents anywhere?
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:49:18 GMT

[email-masked] (Serge Solski u) writes:

>       Are there any documents, files, how-to's, faqs, etc., anywhere 
>that helps with the install of PPP? Everthing that I've found states that 
>PPP is new and no documentation is developed yet. Surely something must 
>exist by now.

Probably the best set of instructions on installation are in the package
itself. You will find a new set of instructions (well, slightly changed)
on ftp.netcom.com:/pub/longyear/ppp-2.1.2/ppp-2.1.2b.tar.gz.

In addition, there is a FAQ, or what I could derrive in one evening of
recalling the common questions, in the same package.

There is a "howto". It is part of the Net-2-HOWTO. I could no see writing
one for just PPP.

There is a chapter in the Network Admin Guide (NAG).

The package includes a man page. This is good as well. Most of the
documentation for chat is in the man page.

There is a general PPP FAQ for the protocol, in the comp.protocols.ppp
group. This is archived on rtfm.mit.edu.

-- 
Al Longyear           [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (wong tsang han)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: Xfig
Date: 14 Oct 1994 08:58:41 GMT

wong tsang han ([email-masked]) wrote:
: jon m ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : In article <[email-masked]>,
: : Uwe Bonnes <[email-masked]> wrote:

: : >Look at the messages of the last time. This has been answered many times
: : >before:
: : >There's a cyclic reference in the application-defaults
: : NOW.  why does just about EVERY blasted X program have this in their
: : app-defaults!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a cyclic reference)

: Ok, so where can I get the 'message of the last time'?? Is there an 
: archive of this newsgroup somewhere on the net?? Please give some pointers!

: BTW, where is this cyclic reference in the app-defaults??

: NOTE: xfig2.1.8 runs fine on my DEC 3000/300X, but the same xfig2.1.8 on 
: my Linux just eats up all the memory and swap space!!!

Ok, I have looked at the app-default files of xfig, there are 3 files ad 
follows:

Fig             this is a soft-link to Fig-color
Fig-color       this has a "include Fig"
Fig-standard    this is the actual Fig file, I think....

relink Fig to Fig-standard or remove Fig and rename Fig-standard to Fig.

This will fix the problem. 

Cheers!!! Now all I need is a 21" monitor and a superfast graphics card....

 --

[*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*]
 | Wong Tsang Han                     |                                   |
 | National University of Singapore   |                                   |
 | e-mail: [email-masked]       |                                   |
[*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*]
                Only a few good things in Life comes free,
                          Linux is one of them.

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From: [email-masked] (Guy Beaver)
Subject: Loopback problem
Date: 14 Oct 1994 13:22:09 GMT

My goal is to get a SLIP going into a shell account with TIA.
I've read through the NET-2-HOWTO, and the TIA FAQ, and have 
(apparently) successfully run a dip script, which appears to work.  
If I try ifconfig, I get something like:

sl0   Link encap AMPR AX.25 HWaddr
      inet addr 192.0.2.1 P-t-P 128.155.17.47 Mask 255.255.255.0
      UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU 1500 Metric 0
      Rx packets 0 errors 0 dropped 0 overrun 0
      Tx packets 0 errors 0 dropped 0 overrun 0

However, I've apparently installed or configured something incorrectly,
because I can't even ping myself.

If I try "ping localhost" or "ping 127.0.0.1" I get:
      ping: unknown protocol icmp.

Or if I try "telnet localhost" or "telnet 127.0.0.1" I get:
      telnet: tcp/telnet: unknown service.

Can someone shed some light on this, or suggest a diagnostic
to reveal what I'm missing?

Thanks,

GM Beaver
<[email-masked]>
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From: [email-masked] (Tang Ting Fook)
Subject: Re: [Q] 4M -> 8M RAM worth it?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 15:03:51 GMT

Dan Pop ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In <rcas1.781417441@giaeb> [email-masked] (Robert Casiano) writes:

: >I`ve just installed linux at home. My pc is 486DX33 with 4M of RAM.
: >It looks good but x  runs very very slow.  Thus, it swaps a lot to
: >hard disk, and I fear that its life span is being shortened
: >considerably.  So I might buy more memory.  With my tight budget, I
: >could only afford another 4M.  Question is, is it worth it to buy the
: >4M now, or just wait for probably another year and get 16M?n  If I
: >buy the 4M now, wuold it improve things a lot, or not much
: >improvement?

: Upgrade now. You'll see a quantum leap in X performance. The difference
: between 4M and 8M is far more significant than the one between 8M and 16M,
: IMHO.

I agree with Dan. I just upgraded mine to 8 MB and X runs really smooth.
Before when I have only 4 MB, starting and application often take ages.
But now it is almost instantaneous. Also moving the windows around is
fast not like when I have only 4 MB. You have to wait a while before the
window moves.

: Dan
: --
: Dan Pop 
: CERN, CN Division
: Email: [email-masked]
: Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

--
TF Tang
([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: formatting tapes
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:33:23 GMT

This is probably an ignorant question, but why is it so hard to format
tapes under Linux?

-Joel
([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Douglas Rankin)
Subject: Help Setting up mail
Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:23:24 -0400

  I am trying to get mail setup on my system at work. Right now I can 
send mail to remote hosts and to people local on the machine. the problem
is that my machine can not recieve mail from local hosts. Every time
I send mail to myself it gets bouces back. It say unknow host or unable
to resolve host name. Is this a problem wirth my mailer or is it because
the name server I am using does not have my address list correctly.
What do I need to do inorder to recieve mail from remote machine.any help
would be appreciated. I am using smail!!

Doug " The Hitman" Rankin
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Douglas Rankin)
Subject: Re: Help Setting up mail
Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:39:31 -0400

Douglas Rankin ([email-masked]) wrote:
:   I am trying to get mail setup on my system at work. Right now I can 
: send mail to remote hosts and to people local on the machine. the problem
: is that my machine can not recieve mail from local hosts. Every time
 That is suposed to be a remote host not a local one. Sorry!!!! 

: Doug " The Hitman" Rankin
: [email-masked]
:   

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick Schaaf)
Subject: Re: Cron Problems - Script runs from shell but not cron
Date: 15 Oct 1994 10:17:50 -0000

[email-masked] (Michael Faurot) writes:

[snip]

>So, is this a quirk of bash or of crond?

I had this happen some days ago; one of my scripts, which ran perfectly
started by hand or from vixie-cron, stopped working when I switched
to dcron. I was unable to strip down the script to a point where I
understood what was happening - bash was definitely acting wierd.
The bug is too esoteric for me to track down, I simply solved the
problem by upgrading to a newer version of bash (from 1.12.?? to 1.14.??)

dcron was definitely not the culprit, bash was.

Patrick

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From: [email-masked] (Delman Lee)
Subject: Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...'
Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:11:35 GMT

 [*] Mark Lord writes:

   ] <The 1.1.52-diffs in mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu:pub/delman should fix the 
   ] <problem. It fakes the bios geometry from the real physical geometry by
   ] <halving the cylinders (and doubling the heads) until cyl<=1024.
   ]
   ] Ugh!  This will cause trouble.
   ]
   ] The correct solution for linux 1.1.x is to simply define the
   ] drive as having 32 (or 64) heads in the BIOS CMOS setup.  Then
   ] DOS, linux, and most other stuff will handle it just fine.

The problem is that (at least for people with old BIOSes) there is no
CMOS setup for 3rd and 4th drives on the 2nd controller. That's why I
fake the logical geometry (bios_info[]) from the real physical
geometry (hd_info[]) in hd.c.

For people with the newer BIOS (EIDE), where it's possible to enter
geometries for 3rd and 4th drives on the 2nd controller, the correct
solution would be to enter the fake/logical geometry, EXCEPT Linux
doesn't yet read the EIDE BIOS entries. I was looking into it, I think
it means adding some assembly in setup.S. And assembly is not my
strong suit, so that's where I stopped.... Anybody?

Thanks, Delman.
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From: [email-masked] (Michael Esler)
Subject: XFree86 and fonts
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 21:19:50 GMT

   I just put XFree86 3.1 on my box (a Gateway P-5 90 w/ 32megs and
kernel 1.1.51) and I can't seem to get X to run. I installed the entire
distibution but I get the following errors:

   failed to set default font path: '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts'

   Fatal Server error:
   could not open default font 'fixed'
   because FontPath is invalid

   The font path it cannot find *is* present. The distibution created it
and I put in my Xconfig. I also know I do not have the font 'fixed'. It
was not in any of the tar balls I downloaded. 
   How can I resolve this problem. Thanks in advance.

Mike
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Pop)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 21:38:57 GMT

In <[email-masked]> kfandre@comp..uark.edu (Kevin C. Fandre) writes:

>Does Xfree86 3.1 "feel" like a memory hog to anyone?  I've recompiled
>everything I regularly use, fvwm and all, to use the X11R6 libraries
>and it still feels like the hard drive has to thrash a bit to even run
>a few measly xterms and xtetris.  Running term mosaic( I havent

I'm using only the servers and the fonts from 3.1. Everything else is
from 2.1.1 and works fine. I've upgraded the servers because I was
needing a couple of the new features in 3.1 for my clgd6225 notebook.

Dan
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CERN, CN Division
Email: [email-masked]
Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

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From: [email-masked] (Matthew Dharm)
Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess...
Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:27:25 GMT

Well.. I've offended at least one person.  So, I appoligize.   Offence
was not my intent.

But, getting back to the subject of security holes, I have to admit
that I used to break into systems.  Back in my HS days (I don't have
any time anymore).   

One of the ways that I found holes in systems was by talking to my
friends who also did the same thing.  Therefore, I think that it is a
perfectly reasonable conclusion to say that (there is a good
probability that) the first person to know about a hole is a cracker
(thanks to whoever posted the correct terminology).  In my experience,
I knew about the holes that I used before the sysadmins did.

I used to think that breaking in was harmless too.  Lately I guess I
become sort of paranoid.  My system is on the net.  It doesn't have
very much, but it's mine.  It's my property, and in a way, it is my
virtual living space.  My cyberspace side of myself lives there.  If
you are breaking into my system, you are breaking into my dwelling.
So what if you just look around?  Does that make you feel any less
violated?

I have to draw one exception/line here.  As was pointed out earlier,
(someone said this, I forgot who) if you crack my system, and do
nothing else but let me know about my hole, you better believe that
I'm gonna be grateful.  But, once you've cracked my security, how can
I guarantee that you haven't done anything else?

I'm a freshman in college now.  I have freshman lab.  And there I use
a simple rule of thumb:  Once I'm in the lab, everything I touch is
potentially contaminated.  Either by me or by the guy before me.
Therefore, I don't scratch my nose when it itches.  I don't use the
phone.  Maybe my hands are perfectly clean.  But suppose they're not.
The potential harm is too great.  So it is with crackers.  Yes, there
are probably some folks out there who crack security and are harmless.
But what about those who aren't?  The risk of letting in the latter
makes it necessary for me to be paranoid about everyone, including the
former.  I'm sorry I have to be like that.  But, I have to feel safe.
I think that is a basic right.  That's why my system asks for a
password, and why your systems do too.  I don't think I'm being facist
or extremist to worry about things like this.  It is a part of life,
like guns and drugs.

Now I'm up to $0.04.  Soon I'll be bankrupt.

Matthew Dharm
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Chi-Chung Hui)
Subject: olwm & XFree 3.1
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 09:38:04 GMT

I upgraded my Linux box to XFree 3.1. Everything seems fine except one: when
I am running 16 bpp mode with olwm, all the windows (e.g., border, openwin-menu)
cannot display any colour except black and white. How can I fix this problem?

I am using Linux v1.1.53 + XFree v3.1 + Xview v3.2 + S3-805 display card.

Thank you.

C.C. Hui
The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

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