Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #89
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 00:18:02 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #89, Volume #2                Thu, 22 Sep 94 00:18:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (David - Morris)
  Printing broken since Linux 1.0 (John Kuhn)
  Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Laurent Chemla)
  Re: how do you get a modem to drop carrier? (Andrew R. Tefft)
  Re: Printers on the parallel port (Stephen E. Farlow)
  Re: pop3d for shadow passwords (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: Multiple Novell logins under DOSEMU. How? (Rob Janssen)
  Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? (Park Medical Systems)
  compiling MH 6.8.3 and problems with Make (R.P. Aditya)
  HP NetServer (George W. Pogue)
  Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? (Christian Jachmann)
  Any NIS server package available? (Myung Cho 40-242E)
  Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem (Drew Sullivan)
  Re: Yggdrasil Install Prob. (Randy Hootman)
  Re: xntpd available? (Jonathan Rozes)
  Re: Enhanced IDE (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)

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From: [email-masked] (David - Morris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
Date: 21 Sep 1994 19:13:07 GMT

Re. why not 127.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 -- the destination address must
be a 'host' address and the host address can't be zero (0).

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From: [email-masked] (John Kuhn)
Subject: Printing broken since Linux 1.0
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:43:29 GMT

Since upgrading to Linux kernels 1.0 or greater I have not been able to
print correctly.  If I send a file containing the following text:

this is a test file for printing

to the printer using "cat test_file > /dev/lp1" or lpr the following text
is printed:

this!is!a!tesu fime!fos priotiog

Printing worked correctly on this machine using 0.99 kernels.  Yesterday
I tried 0.99.pl7 and 0.99.pl9 and confirmed that printing works correctly
using them.  The incorrect text is printed using kernels 1.0, 1.0.8,
1.0.9 and 1.1.45.  I have tried using both the polling driver and
interrupt driver (IRQ 7).  Both produce the same result.  An ls -l of
lp1 indicates:

crw-rw----   1 root     lp         6,   1 Nov 30  1993 /dev/lp1

The parallel port is on a VESA Local Bus IDE & I/O controller.  The IDE
and serial ports work correctly.  The printer is a Star SG-10.

Has anyone else seen this or have any suggestions?

John Kuhn
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Laurent Chemla)
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:11:31 GMT

Trevor Lampre ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Getting a good Unix BBS has been the bane of my existence. Uniboard isn't
: bad but it still isn't as good as the DOS based ones. Unix doesn't help
: either. A BBS needs to know what speed the user connects at to estimate
: if they have enough time to finish downloading a file. This requires
: knowing the connect string. A standard Unix getty doesn't see this or
: pass it onto the BBS. As a result Uniboard will let users download for
: hours beyond their time limit.
--
I use an old Linux package called mdmXX.tgz to resolve this one. With some
changes in it, the result is to directly start the bbs instead of a standard
login process (Xbbs has it's own login procedure) and I added a quick hack
to make it write a temp file with the detected speed that Xbbs reads before
to start so it knows about the link speed.
Just my 2 cents, Laurent.
--
Laurent Chemla : [email-masked] or [email-masked]
Brasil BBS  - +33 1 44 67 08 44 -  Atari France developpers support

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From: [email-masked] (Andrew R. Tefft)
Subject: Re: how do you get a modem to drop carrier?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:16:59 GMT

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Nathan Stratton) writes:
>Hi, I am trying to set up a dialin modem pool and am having some 
>problems. I can not get the modems to drop carrier when I type logout. Is 
>ther a way I can fix this? I am using a cyclom 8 port serial card with 
>agetty. If you can help please send me mail or post as soon as possible. 
>I have people trying to hangup. :-)

Are you saying that following the instructions in your modem's manual
is not working? Normally the factory default is to ignore DTR (don't
ask me why they choose this silly default most often) so you will want
to find the correct command to change that, and write that setting into
NVRAM. There is probably a similar setting for your problem, which is whether
or not the DCD line follows the real carrier or is always on. In my
experience, the factory default setting for this one is sometimes "incorrect"
too.

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Andy Tefft               - new, expanded .sig -     [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Stephen E. Farlow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Printers on the parallel port
Date: 20 Sep 1994 04:15:57 -0700

George Photakis ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (K Webb/Lab Acct) writes:
: >I am trying to connect a laser printer to the parallel port.
: >The printer HOWTO file specifies to use /dev/lp1 for this port, but it
: >doesn't work.  I even tried ls -l > /dev/lp1 and I got the following error.

: LPT1 in DOS is /dev/lp0 under Linux.... 
: George Photakis

*****************************************************************
WRONG!!! A laser printer in Linux is /dev/lp1 !!! Becareful here!
*****************************************************************
-- 
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email : [email-masked]
Stephen E. Farlow           Amateur Radio Call:  KJ5YN
Houston, TX.

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From: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: pop3d for shadow passwords
Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:41:44 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave bill ecrit:

> Help.  I downloaded the pop3d stuff from sunsite and following
> the instruction, I got the following output:

> cc -o pop3d main.o folder.o util.o -lshadow
> util.o: Undefined symbol _valid referenced from text segment
> make: *** [pop3d] Error 1

Compiles fine for me. valid() is part of the shadow library from
John F. Haugh II, the module is called "valid.c".
(I use an old version (1991), I may be wrong).

It seems that the shadow library you use has been created without
this file; you'll have to build it yourself (or get a correct archive
from somewhere)...

> Please email me directly at 
> [email-masked]

Sorry, fix or ask your system administrator to fix that:

        > From: [email-masked] (bill)
        > Organization: String to put in the Organization Header

--
 linux linux linux linux -[ [email-masked] ]- linux linux linux 

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Multiple Novell logins under DOSEMU. How?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 19:09:24 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Eric Lefler) writes:

>Rob Janssen ([email-masked]) wrote:

>: >This problem was present when I was running the current version
>: >of DOSEMU as well as the pre-release.

>: >Any Ideas? Thanks.

>: This is a known problem.
>: You can help solving it when you can tell us how the Citrix DOS emulator
>: handles this situation.  This requires technical knowledge and a packet
>: sniffer, or maybe they just explain it in the manual and you can give
>: that information.
>: It may also be a clue if this Citrix product asks you for an "IPX network
>: number" to use on each PC when it is installed, claiming that it has to
>: be a different number from what you are using everywhere else.

>: Besides, it is better to use LSL/PDETHER 1.3/IPXODI than the PDIPX you
>: are currently using.   But that won't solve your problem.

>Thanks for the help. I will take a look at the Citrix manuals first thing
>monday morning. I am willing to put in some time to figure out how Citrix
>does this. However, my experience with Novell is limited. Where can I find
>a packet sniffer and some technical info? Or, is there someone willing
>to lend a hand.

Normally you will find these in the network technician's lab...
But when you have limited experience with these, it will be difficult
to get info from it.

I'm looking forward to what you find out from whatever source.

Rob
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| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   [email-masked]           |
| e-mail: [email-masked]     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
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From: [email-masked] (Park Medical Systems)
Subject: Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ???
Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:33:03 -0400

NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hello,

: I want to print out online manpages
: (e.g. man cd | lpr -Pxxx ) but I have
: problems because I get always ugly
: control characters (, 

: How can I use nroff (groff, troff, etc.)
: and the man-macros to avoid these control
: characters and my 
: GREATEST PROBLEM: how can I print
: out preformated man pages without
: these ugly control characters on my printer?

: Thanks,
:               Nischi

: PS If possible answer per e-mail
:    address at top

When I want to print out the man pages in a nice neat format,  I do the 
following:
    groff -man manpagefile.1 | lpr

By default, this will produce postscript output.  If you read the man 
page on groff you will see how to change the output format.

Danny Arseneau
Dataden Computer Systems   | [email-masked]
895 2nd Avenue             | voice (514)696-6195
Ile Bizard, QC             | fax   (514)696-0848
Canada   H9C 1K3 

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From: [email-masked] (R.P. Aditya)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: compiling MH 6.8.3 and problems with Make
Date: 19 Sep 1994 19:05:14 GMT

I am trying to compile mh 6.8.3 on a Linux 1.1.8 486 box with the
SlackWare distribution. I am using only the BSD4x options and the
SYS5DIR and POSIX options apart from the mail-specific
options. Following the copious isntructions, using either GNU Make or
the BSD Make, Pmake, I am unable to successfully compile mh. Please
point me to the correct source if this is a FAQ. Otherwise,I would
appreciate knowing what the right options are for the MH file to pass
to mhconfig to compile under Linux.

GNU Make tells me that it has found Multiple Target patterns and
complains and eventually stops, while pmake fails while trying to link
direct.o in the sbr directory due to conflicting defn. of a variable.
I believe this is a problem with the options I have chosen and perhaps
if I use GNU Make. Any clues or experiences with the same will be
appreciated.

Answers will be summarized.

Thanks,
Aditya

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R.P. Aditya                         1740 Arch St.
[email-masked]         Berkeley, CA
(510) 549-2215                      94709
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (George W. Pogue)
Subject: HP NetServer
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:01:20 GMT

I've got an HP NetServer that I want to install Linux. Has anyone done 
this or does anyone know of any problems that I might encounter?

If you've got some info, please email me directly.

TIA

bill

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From: [email-masked] (Christian Jachmann)
Subject: Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ???
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 21:00:47 GMT

NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hello,

: I want to print out online manpages
: (e.g. man cd | lpr -Pxxx ) but I have
: problems because I get always ugly
: control characters (, , etc.).

: How can I use nroff (groff, troff, etc.)
: and the man-macros to avoid these control
: characters and my 
: GREATEST PROBLEM: how can I print
: out preformated man pages without
: these ugly control characters on my printer?

If u've got a Postscript-Printer, try to get a2ps. It converts ASCII to 
PostScript, prints 2 or more pages on one converts all control characters.
-- 
-cj

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From: [email-masked] (Myung Cho 40-242E)
Subject: Any NIS server package available?
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:11:56 GMT

I have not been able to find any NIS server package for Linux. 
Is there any to be found? I have the NIS client package  which
was archived at sunsite.unc.edu but no server package.

[email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.prog,dc.org.linux-users
From: [email-masked] (Drew Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 23:50:40 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Caesar M Samsi <[email-masked]> wrote:
>What is the latest version os smail and where can I ftp it from ? 
>
>I have 3.1.28.1 #5, Nov 93 and it is broken. It inserts extraneous 
>linefeeds and tabs making the spool file looking like follows:
>
>>From root Thu Sep 15 18:08:36 1994
>>Return-Path: <root>
>>Received:  
>>      by csamsi_ppp.clark.net  
>>              (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5)
>        
>>      id m0qlOyp-0004vrC; Thu, 15 Sep 94 18:08 EDT
>>Message-Id: <[email-masked]>
>
>While Linux's pine (3.89) can read it just fine, other email readers are 
>confused like hell.

But in the /usr/lib/smail/config file,  There are blanks (spaces) after
all of the backslash characters on the Recieved control lines.
Remove the blanks and it works correctly.
-- 
  -- Drew Sullivan, <[email-masked]>  -- Toronto, Ontario, Canada

MS-DOS --> MicroSoft-Denial Of Service
"Intel Inside" isn't advertising.  It's a warning!

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From: [email-masked] (Randy Hootman)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Install Prob.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:36:40 GMT

AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH. Religious wars. Every week I give a seminar on 
installing and setting up Linux here in the Bay area. I show both 
Slackware 2.0 and Yggdrasil. Both install easily. I do not have the afore 
mentioned problems. However, first time non-hackers prefer Yggdrasil. 
Both have their (minor) problems. (Like other OS's don't... ha).

Get off it people. This is your support for Linux. It is these newsgroups. 

Yggdrasil is aware of the problems with installing optional components 
*THE FIRST TIME*. They also have a solution. The problem with the CDU31A 
driver is not their problem. It was a problem with the kernel. THEY fixed 
the problem and had a solution available via anonymous ftp within hours 
after finding out the problem.

Yggdrasil has been very responsive to problems with their distribution 
and try to help with problems that are beyond their control. They did not 
write the whole Linux source. However, they have made significant 
contributions to the source base which has benefited us all.

Yggdrasil is to be commended for doing the job that they do with their 
limited resources. They have not deserved any of the flames posted here. 
As for someone trying to make a buck by shipping a faulty distribution, I 
recommend seeing someone and getting on Prozaic.

I am not affiliated with nor do I work for Yggdrasil. I know the people that 
work there professionally and I can insure you, they do their best. The 
entire Linux community benefits from their existance.

Randy
-- 

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
     "In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings,
      we pay ourselves the highest tribute." - Thurgood Marshall
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Randy Hootman                Randysoft Software             (408) 229-0119

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan Rozes)
Subject: Re: xntpd available?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 03:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Is there an implementation of ntpd or xntpd available for linux? If not, are
there any plans to develop one? Just wondering...

jonathan

+++ Jonathan Rozes, [email-masked], [email-masked]
+++ http://www.tufts.edu/~jrozes/
+++ Mind Over Liver: The liver probably contains 100 million cells, but
    1,000 livers do not add up to a rich inner life. <GDF:SA 09/92>

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:31:22 GMT

Kevin Cummings ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Who said anything about needing performance?  If you want that capacity these
: days in an IDE drive, that's what you get.  I too am looking into buying
: a similar drive (WD 730MB drive for ~$400).  I don't have a VLB, so I'm
: looking for two things:  1) Drive capacity, and 2) compatibility with my
: current 202MB IDE drive in an ISA setting.  SCSI is not an option for me
: (too many $$$).  (By the way, opinions on what to buy and why are always welcome.)

: If I ever get a sound card, I'll probably buy one with a SCSI-2 controller,
: but good SCSI controller cards (by themselves) can cost as much as disk drives
: or good sound sound cards (with SCSI controllers on them!) these days.

Since you asked for opinions....  :)

And this is NOT a commercial advertisement, but just notification of a very 
good deal that Robert Ashcroft <[email-masked]> mentioned in some other
post and was kind enough to forward to me:
        
> : You can buy Ultrastore 34F boards from CSC (Corporate Systems Center)
> : in Santa Clara for $89.  They are one of the fastest VLB Linux SCSI
> : controllers around.
> : RNA
>       CSC telephone # (408)734-3475.
>They also offer them at $69 for quantity 10!

And also $79.00 each for 5 -- I order 5 and mentioned them to a friend
on the "geek repeater" (443.65 in ATL) and they got snarfed up in abt
2 minutes!

The same guy I talked with at CSC mentioned they are selling NEW 2.1GB
external (!) SCSI disks for less than 900 bucks!  That's definitely 
gonna give the IDE drives a bit of a run.       
The only complaint I've had with CSC is having to hang on the phone while
all their sales people were busy... you might want to lean on the 
receptionist a bit!  :)

And yes, I know Ultrastore's gone belly-up, but at these prices who cares?
A $400. board for $79.?  If you have to have vendor support, you pay the
price... for my money I just buy two of the cards.  :)  (wish I'd ordered
10 of 'em now... coulda made a couple bucks at the next hamfest!)

73, Mark
        
--
      The purpose of time is to keep everything from happening at once.
                               It's not working.
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Mark A. Horton       ka4ybr             [email-masked]
P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747         [email-masked]
+1.404.371.0291                     33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W

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