Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #94
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:13:53 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #94, Volume #2                Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:13:53 EDT

Contents:
  Re: fvwm startup problems (jon marcus madison)
  Re: Intel Saturn chipset for 486 (w linux) ??? (Wayne Hodgen)
  Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Bill Wiest)
  Re: Want to read boot messagezx (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! (Michael Will)
  Re: Linux as a Xserver (Stefan Markgraf)
  nfs-mounted dos-partition on indy (bastian bluemel)
  Re: No Hostname (Robert Graulich)
  Re: AutoMount For Linux (Thomas Koenig)
  Re: xntpd available? (Juha Virtanen)
  Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem (root)
  Laserjet doesn't go online (Maxim Spivak)
  FIPS or UMSDOS - WHICH ONE??? (Alexander A Durzy)
  Re: Linux Device Registration (Drew Eckhardt)
  Linux Device Registration (Eric Youngdale)
  Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling (Dale Shuttleworth)
  smail input directory (Srini Seetharam)

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Subject: Re: fvwm startup problems
From: [email-masked] (jon marcus madison)
Date: 20 Sep 94 08:31:31 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>,
Steven M. Gallo <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>, Patrick Reijnen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Srini Seetharam) writes:
>>
>>>I am trying to setup fvwm on my linux machine.
>>>Is this possible with fvwm ? 
>>
>>Of course: just put them in your .xinitrc together with all the command
>>line parameters they need. First execute these x-apps and then as last line in
>>your .xinitrc state 'exec fvwm'
>>                     ^^^^^^^^^
>
>Why the exec ?
so that the whole session will end after fvwm's ended.

Ennyway, in fvwm, you don't have to have all that stuff in your .xinitrc.
in the .fvwmrc file there should be a section "FvwmInit" (or close, grep
for it) that can start the stuff up each time you start a session.

Fvwm can do about ennything any other wm can do & better.

>Steve
jon
-- 
jon madison
oit consultant in training

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From: [email-masked] (Wayne Hodgen)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Intel Saturn chipset for 486 (w linux) ???
Date: 23 Sep 1994 07:14:23 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

|> >problems, no unexplainable hangs or crashes or data corruption.  Runs
|> >like a bat out of hell, too - FTP'ing a big file from a SparcStation-10
|> >yielded between 820 and 870 kbytes/second, sustained throughput all the
|> >way up through the Linux filesystem and SCSI driver.
|> 
|> Good ghod... that's better than half the channel capacity, isn't it?  I
|> don't suppose you can bench a _pair_ of identical machines, can you?  I'd
|> purely _love_ to know how much of a hit your taking running Polaris
|> instead of Linux at the other end...

Sorry about this but as much as I detest Solaris, the network speed is A1.
Two identical Sparc 5/65s with Solaris 2.3 will sustain 970 to 980 KB/s
with ftp (a 15MB file - my Gnu addons to make Solaris halfway bearable).
This is over a Uni net with a central Powerhub switching subnet packets
and god knows what sort of router spagetti between the 2 machines.

At home I upgraded my 486-33 to an ASUS 486-66 PCI, the old 486 went into the
mailbox machine (the two are networked). This more than doubled the avg.
throughput over the old 386 in there. I now get about 470KB sustained.
Before it hovered around 170KB. Both machines with 1.1.51.

Hope that helps.
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From: [email-masked] (Bill Wiest)
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 14:18:02 EDT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Bill Wiest)

[email-masked] (Trevor Lampre) writes:

> In article <[email-masked]>,
> Greg Corteville <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >[email-masked] (Matthew Francey) writes:
> >
> >
[much deletia...]

> >>case.  i am laughing at the idea of a "BBS Program" for Linux, and am somew
> >>concerned at the prospect of an MSDOS front end (and all that it implies)
> >>on a Linux machine.  for Linux offers you and your users a real escape from
> >>the basic limitations of the MS-DOS remote-access model.
> >
> >My intention is to create a system that combines the positives of both 
> >operating systems.  MS-DOS's ease of use with Linux's power and 
> >flexibility.  Things don't have to be complicated for the user to make it 
> >powerful.  
> 
> Getting a good Unix BBS has been the bane of my existence. Uniboard isn't
> bad but it still isn't as good as the DOS based ones. Unix doesn't help
> either. A BBS needs to know what speed the user connects at to estimate
> if they have enough time to finish downloading a file. This requires
> knowing the connect string. A standard Unix getty doesn't see this or
> pass it onto the BBS. As a result Uniboard will let users download for
> hours beyond their time limit.
> 
> Be prepared for a lot of hard work if you want to get a good BBS going
> under Unix. I'd be very interested to hear about it, and what you did
> to overcome the problems.
> 
> >Anybody else with a USEFUL tip?  The "at" command was a nice suggestion.  
> >Any others?
> 
Hope you don't mind my jumping in here, but have you had a look at Waffle?
Waffle comes in both DOS and UNIX flavours (orginally written under Unix).  IT
is one of the most configurable BBS programs around, and has built in UUCP for
mail and news.   What's more is, it's CHEAP!  And yes, it will run under Linux.
 There are several Linux installations at present, and a big move on to create
more.  We are going to set up Waffle under Linux within a month or so
(currently running under DOS).

If you want more information let me know!

email: [email-masked] (Bill Wiest)

And, check out comp.bbs.waffle!

--Bill Wiest

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From: [email-masked] (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: Want to read boot messagezx
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:15:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Marten Liebster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Greg J. Pryzby ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Where (or are) the messages displayed at boot stored?  Is there a way
>: to read the messages that are written to the console at boot?
>
>Check the /var/adm directory.  There should be a file called messages.  
>That file contains the messages, older files will be labeled messages.01,
>messages.02, etc.

Interesting.  It depends, I think, on your distribution.  There is no
automagically mechnism to rename the message files.

The bootmessages aren't there anyway.  But you should be able to
retrieve them not to long after the reboot by issuing the
`dmesg' command.  Or include such a command in your startup files and
let it redirect it's output too the syslog files.

-- heiko

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!!
Date: 23 Sep 94 07:16:49 GMT

> in the smallest window it isn't quite right for me. When the window is active
> Doom is GREAT! but the background is black except for traces of the window title
> bares. When the other windows are active, they are fine, but DOOM is blacke!!
> 
> What's up. I havnt' seen anyone else see this prob..

It is a feature of X11 - programs can either share their colormap with the
system and just allocate a few colors for themselves, or they use a private colormap
getting all the colors, but only inside their own window. 

You will see the same when using the visual schnautzer of xv which uses a 
private colormap because of the individual multicolor icons for each gif/jpg...

xfractint -private yields the same result - more colors but ugly behaviour.
Cheers, Michael Will

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From: [email-masked] (Stefan Markgraf)
Subject: Re: Linux as a Xserver
Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:06:25 GMT

You wrote:

>I've got a linux with x on it, and a Sun Sparc with Solaris on it..

>I can run x apps over ethernet with no problem, its pretty impressive..
>What I'd like to do though, is setup a bunch of linux boxes with minimal
>configuration / software which will access the Sun's X enviornment.

>What i'm trying to get at, is that I dont want to just run the xapps
>from remote, I want to run the sun's everything, from the sun, displayed
>on the linuxs..  Like an X terminal.  Is this possible?   

Of course, that possible. The only thing you have to do is:

1) log in under linux
2) start the "xinit" program, with a ~/.xinitrc-file 
   (or /usr/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc) , which does some initialisations and 
   starts no window-manager (fvwm), but instead a xterm as last application
   (without "&"!)
 >........... example file ..............
#!/bin/sh
# $XFree86: mit/clients/xinit/xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 1993/04/11 13:50:35 dawes Exp $
# $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
 
userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
if [ x"$XWINHOME" != x ]; then
    XINIT_DIR=$XWINHOME/lib/X11/xinit
else
    XINIT_DIR=/usr/X386/lib/X11/xinit
fi
sysresources=$XINIT_DIR/.Xresources
sysmodmap=$XINIT_DIR/.Xmodmap
 
# merge in defaults and keymaps
 
if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi
 
if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi
 
if [ -f $userresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $userresources
fi
 
if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $usermodmap
fi
 
# start one xterm in foreground
xterm

  >.......... End of ~/.xinitrc ..........

3) You have to allow X-access for the Sun-Workstations:
   "xhost +"   (enable all hosts on the internet)
  or 
   "xhost leo  pippi.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de"  (enable only hosts "pippi" and "leo")

4) rlogin -l <username_on_workstation> <name_of_workstation>
   
5) Set DISPLAY-Environment-variable of the workstation to your LinuX computer:
   (ksh)  export DISPLAY=prometheus:0.0
   or
   (csh)  setenv DISPLAY prometheus:0.0

6) Start window-manager on the workstation:
   "olwm &"

Now you have full access to the mouse-panels and the programs of the workstation.
Perhaps you have edit the PATH Environment variable so that the workstation is 
able to find X-Programs. You can iconify the first xterm now. Do not destroy or
delete it until you have closed/exited/deleted all X-applications on
the workstation!
After exiting the workstations X-apps, you can exit the window-manager
(menu in the mouse-panels). At last, you can log off the workstation
from the first xterm and then you can exit the LinuX-X by exiting the
first "xterm"

Okidoki,
        Stefan.

P.S.: Our news-configuration is not correct. Therefore you cannot use
      reply-news-address to mail me. Please use mail address below.

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From: [email-masked] (bastian bluemel)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: nfs-mounted dos-partition on indy
Date: 22 Sep 1994 19:18:05 GMT

   hello, folks!

   I have been through all linux- and sgi-relevant newsgroups, but
   didn't found an answer to my problem:

   I exported a dos-partition from a linux-486-pc (slackware 1.0.9,
   Kernel 1.1.18). This is locally mounted with
   '/dev/sdb5 /dos_data  msdos rw,exec,umask=000,conv=auto'.
   Next I nfs-mounted this on a SGI-INDIGO2 running IRIX 5.2 .
   At first everything seems to be fine: the parent directory an all
   of its mounted contents have permissions '-rwxrwxrwx root root'.
   BUT: nobody else than root can write to this device when logged on
   the indigo. Write access is denied with the message: 
   'Cannot create filename - Not privileged'.
   More precisely, it is not possible to create non-zero-length
   files. All FAT-operations like deleting files and 'touch'ing new
   files work well.
   Logging in the linux-system with the same non-root-user-account I
   can do what I want on the dos-device.

   I experimented a lot and read probably all relevant manuals. So I
   think it is basically not possible (for some reason) to do what I
   want to do.

   I'm looking forward to your suggestions,  thanks in advance !

*************************************************************************
* Bastian Bluemel                                                       *
* Hermann-Foettinger-Institut, TU-Berlin                                *
* Mueller-Breslau-Strasse 8, 10623 Berlin, Germany                      *
* email: [email-masked]  sometimes mail doesn't work !!! *
* phone: Germany-30-314.25614                                           *
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* Bastian Bluemel                                                                                       *

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Graulich)
Subject: Re: No Hostname
Date: 22 Sep 1994 12:43:50 +0200

[email-masked] (Ben Pressnall) writes:

>At my login prompt the hostname reports (none).  I can make a temporary fix by 
>using hostname_notcp (hostname), but defaults back to (none) after a reboot.
>Can someone help.

>Thanks 
>Ben Pressnal
>[email-masked]

Create the file /etc/HOSTNAME and write your favorite name in it.
Perhaps with "echo name >/etc/HOSTNAME", where name is what you want.

Robert Graulich.

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas Koenig)
Subject: Re: AutoMount For Linux
Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:37:56 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

SethMeister G. ([email-masked]) wrote in comp.os.linux.admin,
        article <[email-masked]>:

>  Does anyone know if there is an AutoMount Utility, Like Volume
>Manager on Solaris, available for Linux.

Yes, it works fairly well (look at any sunsite mirror for 'amd').
However, I have been unable to get it to work with NFS mounted directories
and blocksizes > 1k.  Has anybody managed this?
--
Thomas Koenig, [email-masked], [email-masked].
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
logarithmic diagram.

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From: [email-masked] (Juha Virtanen)
Subject: Re: xntpd available?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 12:19:16 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>>>>> On 22 Sep 1994 03:36:17 GMT, [email-masked]
(Jonathan Rozes) said: 

_> Is there an implementation of ntpd or xntpd available for linux? If not, are
_> there any plans to develop one? Just wondering...

Sources a available for example via anon-ftp
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/xntp3.3q-src.tar.gz.

Juha
--
Plääh. En mä käytä .signaturea.

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From: [email-masked] (root)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem
Date: 23 Sep 1994 10:18:24 GMT

 Hmmmmm, actually, I got this error message whilst setting up SMAIL, problem
was it was trying to use uucp type stuff when I only wanted it to use smtp,
and was trying to find the uumaps for my site. I used the example files for
workstations (./samples/bigsite/workstns I think), and managed to get them
hacked around to work, and they never use uucp...

-Neil
Email: [email-masked] (i.e. don't reply to where this came from...)

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From: [email-masked] (Maxim Spivak)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Laserjet doesn't go online
Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:40:07 GMT

Hello!

I hope this isn't in a FAQ, but may be it should be.

I have a HP LaserJet II connected to my Linux box. If I turn on my 
printer at computer start-up, before the Linux kernel loads, everything 
is fine: lpr prints, ghostscript does its job, etc. However, if I turn on 
my printer when Linux is already running, it doesn't go online. It's as 
if something is being sent to the parallel port that interferes with the 
printer, but if the printer is started before Linux loads, it grabs 
control of the parallel port and works.

Does anybody know what is is? I'm running kernel 1.1.19 with PLIP 
disabled. Thanks,

Max

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University of California, Berkeley      |  #include <StdDisclaimer.h>
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From: [email-masked] (Alexander A Durzy)
Subject: FIPS or UMSDOS - WHICH ONE???
Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:27:27 GMT

I want to install Linux on my DOS formatted 420 Meg HD with
minimal headache.  I have heard of a couple ways of doing 
this, and was wondering which way would be easiest, and
better performance wise.  How does running Linux ontop of
the DOS 16bit format run?

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From: Drew Eckhardt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Linux Device Registration
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 01:22:22 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

========

        I spoke to Linus about this in Heidelberg, and the solution that
    we came up with was to use dynamic allocation of major numbers.  The only
    tricky part is that you somehow need a way of refreshing the /dev/ entries
    whenever you load the module.

How about a /dev pseudo-filesystem, like /proc?

Preferably, this would be mounted as an inherting 
filesystem on /dev, allowing for the creation of 
symbolic links and the like.

This would also have a nice side effect of letting us have 
consistant device names for SCSI devices as new devices 
are added to the system.
    
========

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From: Eric Youngdale <[email-masked]>
Subject: Linux Device Registration
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:28:47 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>How about a /dev pseudo-filesystem, like /proc?

        No, because it would be impossible to change the permissions and
ownership.  It would be some new file in /proc (or perhaps /proc/device) that
would be used to help the system rebuild the entries in /dev.  Perhaps
modutils could be modified to know about what needs to be done?

-Eric

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From: [email-masked] (Dale Shuttleworth)
Subject: Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 00:35:48 GMT

Hi,

Scott Howard ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Christopher Wiles) writes:

: >[email-masked] (Byron Faber) writes:

: >: I was told by a friend (rumors rumors) that the pixel doubling, etc
: >: was NOT included because XFree can change resolutions on the fly.

: >Bullshit, sir.  Check the README.

: It _is_ included, but it's also described as "a pretty bonehead thing to do"
: most likely due to the simple fact that it doesnt work!!

Err, it is included, it does work for me.  Note that a fixed version was
released soon after the initial version. This corrected problems with
pixel doubling.  I do however agree that switching resolution is the best
(although the least elegant) solution.

: >: So for all you FOOOOOLS out there bitching.  TURN DOWN YOUR RESOLUTIONS
: >: DUMMIES.

: >Know whereof you speak before you post such.

: I'd say he got just as close to the mark as you did.

Ditto.

                Dale.

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*  Dale Shuttleworth                                                         *
*  Email: [email-masked]                                           *
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From: [email-masked] (Srini Seetharam)
Subject: smail input directory
Date: 21 Sep 1994 21:33:00 GMT

I am running smail with kernel 1.1.13. 
Under the /usr/spool/smail directory , there is a directory
input/

this seems to have some mail mesages that have not been forwarded.
How can I force smail to send these on their way ?

thank you,
[email-masked]

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