Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #95
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Linux-Admin Digest #95, Volume #2                Fri, 23 Sep 94 15:14:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work? (D.F.S.)
  Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45 (Timothy Murphy)
  Re: 4mm DAT on Linux? (Scott G. Ainsworth)
  Re: Cnews and NNTP (Bill Davidsen)
  Pentiums (Frank B. Brokken)
  Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Jay Ashworth)
  GNU fingerd. (Don Garrett)
  Re: Driver for an UPS (LU-1250A) ??? (Harvey J. Stein)
  Ansi terminal type? (David Kenneth Slack)
  Re: Possible bug in hd.c? (Marc A. Runkel)
  Re: Sound Card (Hannu Savolainen)
  Re: GNU fingerd. (Jonathan Rozes)
  Re: Any NIS server package available? (Winfried Truemper)
  Re: What would be faster Dx-50 or DX2-66? (Mark Bolzern)
  tftp writing problems... (loDtaQqu'wI')
  Re: SLIP/CSLIP & E-mail (Doug McNaught)
  test, please ignore (Frank B. Brokken)
  2nd test, please ignore too (Frank B. Brokken)
  Re: Printers on the parallel port (George Photakis)

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From: [email-masked] (D.F.S.)
Crossposted-To: utah.linux
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 11:07:42 -0600

Pete Kruckenberg ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I'm going to be setting up some kind of backup system on my Linux box,
: and I'm wondering if anyone has gotten ftape to work. I haven't really
: tried, but I heard some comments that it didn't work or was difficult
: to set up. Are they true?

: Also, any recommendations on what to get to back-up a 1GB drive (all
: Linux ext2)? I was thinking about using a Colorado Jumbo 250, but
: that'll take several tapes to backup. Are there any Linux-compatible
: tape drives (SCSI or proprietary bus, since I don't have IDE in this
: machine) that are pretty affordable (under $500) that are close to
: 1GB?

You should be able to find a DAT or an 8mm drive used in that price range
if you shop around.

I was refered to some surplus type reseller in CA.( I Forget exactly who
it was but they are long gone)
I was looking for a 1/4" cartridge drive.
He said they were sold out, So I asked him what else they had in the 
150-500 Meg range, he said "nothing in that range", so I asked
"WHAT DO YOU HAVE", "oh we got some 1.3 or 2.6 Gig or something but that is
probably too big"
It was like pulling teeth to get anything out of this guy, I finally found
out he had 8 1.3 Gig wangdat drives and 2 drives with hardware compression
that were listed as 2.6 Gig, they were $399 & $499.
This sounded too good to be true so I told him I would call him back.
I called the BBB and some other company regulation agency in CA, they had
been in business 5-6 yrs and had no problems so I figured what the hell
I'll pay with a credit card.
I called him back about 1Hr later to order, he said the 2.6 Gig drives were
gone. I said I kinda wanted the extra space so he offered to sell me 2 of
the 1.3 Gig drives for the price of one 2.6. I turned him down and just 
got the one for $399.
He also found one of 250 Meg Tandberg drive they were selling for $129.00
(This is the same drive one guy is selling on the net as a 525 Meg drive)
This was a little over 2Yrs ago and both have worked perfectly since.
As far as I could tell the DAT drive had never even been used and still
smelled new, the Tandberg was used.

There have been quite a few postings of DAT and 8mm drives in the forsale
groups in the last few months you may want to look there if you feel lucky.

You should be able to get the tandberg 3660's for about $150. you could get
2 and use some backup software that will handle compression and switch
devices when full on it's own.
Then you could load 2 tapes and walk away.
The only problem would be the cost of the tapes, about $30.00 for the 250
Meg tapes.

keep in mind, The little tape drives like the Colorado Jumbo 250 are listed
as compressed capacity, assumed to be 2:1.
In other words this drive is really about 125 Meg.
The Tandbergs are really 250 with the right tapes or 150 with the standard
6150 cartridges.

The cost of the tapes can be an issue if you intend to archive a lot of info
The 250 Meg 6250 Tapes are about $25-30.00
The 1.3-4.5 Gig DAT tapes and the 4-8 Gig 8mm tapes are $7-10.00

I have 45 DAT tapes in my drive this is almost 60 Gig with my drive
they cost me about $400
To buy that much capacity in the 6250's would cost about $6,000.00
With the newer drives that fit more data on the same tapes the 
spread would be a lot higher than that.
I have seen ads for tape drives that use $2.50 T-120 Video tapes and fit
25 Gig on them.

If you are only going to have a few backups it is not an issue.

Marc Christensen

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From: [email-masked] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45
Date: 22 Sep 1994 18:09:24 +0100

[email-masked] (Mike Haaland) writes:

>After installing and rebuilding my kernel 1.1.45, then compiling
>ftape-1.13b, I try to install the new ftape module and get the message
>"_irqaction undefined".  I looks like the function irqaction() is not
>in my kernal.

>What do I need to do to make ftape work?  Anyone using ftape with
>linux-1.1.45?

I finally got ftape to work with my Colorado Jumbo
by upgrading to Linux 1.1.50,
and installing ftape-1.13b, from sunsite.unc.edu in pub/Linux/kernel/tapes
after applying the patch ftape-irq-dma.patch from the same directory.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: [email-masked]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: [email-masked] (Scott G. Ainsworth)
Crossposted-To: utah.linux
Subject: Re: 4mm DAT on Linux?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 14:29:52 GMT

Pete Kruckenberg ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I've heard that Linux will support 8mm DAT and a lot of other tape
: drives, but I've never heard about 4mm DATs. Does anyone know if they
: are supported under Linux, and if so, which brands/models? I'd prefer
: SCSI, but if there is an floppy-controlled (or proprietary controller)
: one that works with Linux, let me know. I'm assuming that a 4mm SCSI
: DAT would be supported with the regular SCSI tape driver, so please
: let me know if I'm right or wrong.

I have used both WangDAT and HP 4mm DAT drives (1.3GB) successfully.  I
used an Adaptec 1542CF with the WangDAT and an adaptec 1520 with HP.  All
I had to do was rebuild the kernel with SCSI support, terminate properly,
and presto! it all worked.

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Davidsen)
Subject: Re: Cnews and NNTP
Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:13:18 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
Nathan Stratton <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I am trying to get a news feed up form sprintlink, and thay can't connect 
>to my server. I tried an put dns.novanet.com in hosts.nntp and telnet to 
>dns.novanet.com. I then tried to telnet novanet.com 119 and got:
>
>502 novanet NNTP server can't talk to you.

I'm posting as well as mailing, because others may have this problem
also. You probably have either a routing problem or a name problem. Try
pinging the feed host by both IP and name. Use ping or nslookup to see
what name RARP returns when you use the IP.
-- 
Speaking *from* but never *for* Prodigy
        "Pain builds moral fiber"  -my dad
        "Pain hurts"  -me

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From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Pentiums
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:14:24 GMT

This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance,

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From: [email-masked] (Jay Ashworth)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
Date: 23 Sep 1994 09:12:26 -0400

[email-masked] (Frank van Maarseveen) writes:
>> Destination    Gateway          Netmask       Flags   MSS    iface
>> 127.0.0.1      127.0.0.1        255.0.0.0     UH      1536   lo0
>> 199.245.227.0  199.245.227.254  255.255.255.0 U       1436   eth0
>> default        198.147.221.1    255.255.255.0 U       1436   ppp0

>Why has the loopback route a destination 127.0.0.1 instead of 127.0.0.0
>in accordance with the specified netmask?
>The loopback interface could have IP address 127.0.0.1 and connect to
>a loopback network 127.0.0.0 with netmask 255.0.0.0 (conceptually)

And in practice, people who route the loopback _host_, and people who
route the loopback _network_ seem evenly split.  Perversely, Mmy machine
_says_ it's routing the host, but any host on that net is loopback.  Go
figure...

>About assigning the same IP address to multiple interfaces on the same
>host:
>One could argue that this is "correct" as long as the outer world cannot
>see any difference. Consider all interfaces as one big specially designed
>interface with the software (linux) hiding the differences. So, as long
>as the software supports this concept it is correct IMHO.

This depends, as you say, on whether the IP kernel code can make it's
routing decisions based on interface name, rather than interface address.
I gather some can, and I gather it's a new thing.  Older (primarily
4.2/3BSD) code apparently couldn't.  I'm in the middle of rereading
Leffler & McKusick, I should have a better answer than that shortly.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth        High Technology Systems Comsulting             Ashworth
Designer              Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation       & Associates
ka1fjx/4                                                  
[email-masked]   "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?"  813 790 7592

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From: [email-masked] (Don Garrett)
Subject: GNU fingerd.
Date: 21 Sep 1994 05:31:56 GMT

  Has anyone gotten the GNU fingerd to work? I'd thought of using it
to replace the one from slackware that isn't NIS aware (and therefore
does confusing things), but can't seem to get it even close to
compiling. 

  Failing the GNU daemon, is there a linux usable NIS aware fingerd?
I've looked around a lot, but it's been a few weeks.

--
Don Garrett                                                   Louisiana Tech
[email-masked]                                      University
                  http://info.latech.edu/~dgarrett/

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Subject: Re: Driver for an UPS (LU-1250A) ???
From: [email-masked] (Harvey J. Stein)
Date: 23 Sep 94 14:46:20

In article <[email-masked]>
[email-masked] (Oliver Schade) writes:

   Now, is there an driver available, which detects the signals from the UPS
   and forces the computer to a controlled shutdown? And (maybe) interrups this
   shutdown, if power is back?

See the BUPS HOWTO.

--
Harvey J. Stein
Berger Financial Research
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (David Kenneth Slack)
Subject: Ansi terminal type?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 08:32:00 -0600

        I am supplying Internet Access to the public, and would like
to have an Ansi terminal type.  I've experimented a bit with it, but I
don't get consistant results.  Is there a termcap/terminfo entry
somewhere out there for ANSI?
        Thanks...

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From: [email-masked] (Marc A. Runkel)
Subject: Re: Possible bug in hd.c?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 19:06:14 GMT

Mark Lord ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
: <I'm wondering if this is just me or what. I'm currenly running kernel 
: <v1.1.51, but am still having problems.  When I ran v1.1.50, I couldn't 
: <get linux to see my second WDC31000 IDE drive.  Now, with v1.1.51, it 
: <only sees the drive if I boot off a floppy diskette.  This is not 
: <crucial, but I'd like to figure out if it's just my system, or if others 
: <have this problem..  

: Yeah, I'd like to know as well.

: <When I boot off of the hard disk, the system does a partition check on 
: </dev/hda, and sees that it's a WDC31000 and compensates for the irregular 
: <drive geometry.  It doesn't even see /dev/hdb.
: <
: <When I boot off of a floppy, the system performs the partition check on 
: <both drives, and everything works like a charm.

: Hmm.. master/slave jumpers set correctly?  Double check them?

Yes, triple checked. I've made enough stupid mistakes in my life not to 
believe I'm perfect. :-)  These drives work fine under DOS. And the 
jumpers are AOK.  The BIOS settings are EXACTLY the same for each drive.

: <Is this a timeout (very quick) problem?  I noticed that there were some 
: <changes to the timeout code in hd.c in patch51.

: Unrelated, unless you see timeout messages in /var/adm/messages

Don't see them.  It just seems like the system boots up and zips by the 
second drive without even registering it's there. :-(

--
Marc A. Runkel                              [email-masked]
Network Analyst                             Of course, this is just my
Registrar's Office * Systems Support Group  tiny, insignificant, humble
University of Massachusetts, Amherst        opinion.  If you don't like it....

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From: [email-masked] (Hannu Savolainen)
Subject: Re: Sound Card
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 05:51:33 GMT

[email-masked] (Nicholas J. Leon) writes:

>Has anyone had any luck getting a "Ensoniq Soundscape Wavetable Sound Card"
>to work under Linux? (1.1.49). It SUPPOSIDLY has PAS-16 and SB-16
>compatibility, but Linux seems to just ignore it (but, to be fair, a good
>number of DOS apps (games, mostly) won't recognize it either).
You have to use DOS to initialize the card. So boot DOS (with SSINIT.EXE),
hit ctrl-alt-del and boot Linux.

Cards based on the SoundScape architecture are not compatible with SB16 or PAS16
but with SB (or SB Pro?), MPU401 and Windows Sound System. It's quite easy
to configure Linux to use the card as a SB and MPU401. Just use the
same I/O base, IRQ and DMA settings than with DOS. The Windows
Sound System compatibility seems to be little bit difficult to get work.

There will be a native SoundScape support in Linux as soon as I get a
SoundScape card.

Hannu
-- 
=============================
Hannu Savolainen
[email-masked]
"Don't use Windows since there is a door!"

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan Rozes)
Subject: Re: GNU fingerd.
Date: 23 Sep 1994 15:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Don Garrett) writes:
>
>  Has anyone gotten the GNU fingerd to work? I'd thought of using it
>to replace the one from slackware that isn't NIS aware (and therefore
>does confusing things), but can't seem to get it even close to
>compiling. 

We use the ICSI version of GNU finger. It's basically GNU finger without 
all the bugs. You can find it at ftp.icsi.berkeley.edu:/pub/stolcke.

jonathan

+++ Jonathan Rozes, [email-masked], [email-masked]
+++ http://www.tufts.edu/~jrozes/
+++ Mind Over Liver: The liver probably contains 100 million cells, but
    1,000 livers do not add up to a rich inner life. <GDF:SA 09/92>

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From: [email-masked] (Winfried Truemper)
Subject: Re: Any NIS server package available?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 14:34:23 GMT

Myung Cho 40-242E ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I have not been able to find any NIS server package for Linux. 
: Is there any to be found? I have the NIS client package  which
: was archived at sunsite.unc.edu but no server package.

Look into "nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/BETA/NYS" and get the file
"nys-0.27.1.tar.gz" (or newer).

From "[email-masked]":

:Further to Winfried's suggestion, I suggest you take a look at the file
:
:        nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/BETA/NYS/new-libc-nys.tar.gz
:
: This basically replaces your libc with a NYS capable version, thus meaning you
: do not have to recompile anything (well except static binaries - like login)
: and you do not have to use ypbind as the YP server is determined from a
: configuration file instead of a network broadcast.
: You are also able to switch to shadow passwords without any recompilation.
:
: Future libc sources for linux will have the capability of building a NYS 
: libc as an option.
:
: Mitch
:

Regards
Winfried

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Bolzern)
Subject: Re: What would be faster Dx-50 or DX2-66?
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:19:58 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jinwoo Shin <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Greg Cisko) writes:
>
>>In most cases, with 256K cache (essential in a DX2) the DX2 66 will be faster
>>than the DX50. DX2's acheive the "clock-doubling" via CPU cache hits. I gained
>>huge performance increases (in norton sysinfo and 3dbench) by going from 0K
>>external cache to 256K. Generaly, when the CPU is excercised, a DX2 66 CPU will
>>be faster than a DX50.
>
>Agreed. Not only is dx66 internally faster, since it combines MMU, internal
>cache, FPU, CPU in one chip at its native package, it should beat dx50 in
>most cases.

When benchmarked with FlagShip, CPU operations that are small enough to work
in the cache are faster on the DX2/66, but many operations are actually faster
on the DX/50.... especially when set up with a caching disk controller.

-- 
Mark Bolzern :  [email-masked]    USA Tel: (303) 699-7470  Fax: (303) 699-2793 
WorkGroup Solutions, Inc.    The FlagShip "CA-Clipper and XBase on Unix" People
  FlagShip is a 4GL Database Development System & XBase Porting Tool for Unix
No Runtime Fees   Info at ftp.wgs.com : /pub2/wgs/Filelist OR mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (loDtaQqu'wI')
Subject: tftp writing problems...
Date: 23 Sep 1994 17:03:44 GMT

I can't seem to get tftp to write a file correctly...let me see if I
can demonstrate:

    touch /tmp/bar
    chmod 777 /tmp/bar
    tftp 127.0.0.1
    put foo /tmp/bar

foo is 20 bytes, it arrives fine.

    put baz /tmp/bar

baz is a 40 byte file, it also seems to arrive fine.

    put foo /tmp/bar

but /tmp/bar is still 40 bytes...it has foo stuck on the front, and
the rest of baz at the end.

Is this a bug or a feature?   I can't tell.... :)  If it's a feature,
what is it used for?

Beej!

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From: [email-masked] (Doug McNaught)
Subject: Re: SLIP/CSLIP & E-mail
Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:12:20 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Gunter Spranz) writes:
>In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (James Nykiel) writes:
>> 
>> This is probably a stupid question but can somebody help me out with this, ok,
>> I call my internet provider and start my SLIP/CSLIP connection as the root
>> user, the connection is established so I switch virtual consoles and log in
>> as jnykiel and start X Windows.
>> 
>> I decide to send somebody E-mail which I have no problems but what happens
>> when somebody sends me E-mail and I am offline (no SLIP/CSLIP connection),
>> where does this mail go, does the sender get a message that says I am un-
>> reachable or what, all I know is that I never get any mail, possibly know-
>> body loves me :( or I am doing something wrong.
>> 
>

>The easiest way is to ask your provider to create a normal user account on his
>internet box for you. You should name this user the same as on your
>local box, so when replying to usenet messages the right user@domain
>is given as reply address. To read your mail you simply telnet to
>this user, login and call your favourite mail reader (you read your
>mail remotely and online this way, if you don't want that, perhaps
>because you were on vacation and millions of msgs have arrived, you
>can also copy the mail-directory via ftp to your machine). You can
>write mail on your own machine via slip or remotely, the latter has
>the advantage that you have only one mail directory.

Another possibility, if your provider is willing, is to MX your
machine to the provider's mailhub. When your connection is up, mail
goes right through. When you're down, mail gets queued until you come
up, then the next queue run will deliver the mail. It's doable, but
requires a provider with some Sendmail expertise.
--
Doug McNaught     Systems Guy and Physics Student     Towson State University
Internet: [email-masked]   *or*   [email-masked]
BITNET:   e7opdam@towsonvx            Office: Cook 28D, (410) 830-4148
PGP fingerprint: D5 DF 12 0F AE EA 8C C1  CC DA 44 D6 D1 97 62 6B

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From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: test, please ignore
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:17:27 GMT

This is just a simple test

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From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: 2nd test, please ignore too
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:20:42 GMT

This is just a test

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From: [email-masked] (George Photakis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Printers on the parallel port
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:15:23 UNDEFINED

Christ!!!

This thread has been CUT AND PASTED so much that my comments that are 
artributed to me weren't even made my be.

BE ADVISED.. the comments below starting with WRONG are not mine are were not 
posted by be.  I wish that when people cut and paste that they keep the 
information in context.

George Photakis

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Alex 
R. Moon) writes:>From: [email-masked] (Alex R. Moon)
>Subject: Re: Printers on the parallel port
>Date: 21 Sep 1994 22:21:10 GMT

>In article <[email-masked]: ,
>Heike C. Zimmerer <[email-masked]:  wrote:
>: [email-masked] (George Photakis) writes:
>: 
>: >In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Stephen E. Farlow) 
>: >writes:
>: 
>: >>George Photakis ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: >>: LPT1 in DOS is /dev/lp0 under Linux.... 

NOT A COMMENT BY GEORGE PHOTAKIS.... 
NOT A COMMENT BY GEORGE PHOTAKIS
NOT A COMMENT BY GEORGE PHOTAKIS...

>: >>*****************************************************************
>: >>WRONG!!! A laser printer in Linux is /dev/lp1 !!! Becareful here!
>: >>*****************************************************************
>: 
>: Linux can't detect what kind of printer you are running, be
>: it laser or not (how should it - parallel printer interfaces are
>: unidirectional?).

>Well, not always, but most of the time.

>At any rate, as I recall, if you have an old bus, lpt1 == /dev/lp0
>if you have a newer bus lpt1 == /dev/lp1

>: 
>: There is a Linux Printing-HOWTO. Look for Chapter 2.13 (Printer device
>: names).
>: 
>: -- 
>: Heike C. Zimmerer                                    [email-masked]

>--Alex
>[email-masked]

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