Subject: Linux-Development Digest #245
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 17:13:16 EDT

Linux-Development Digest #245, Volume #2         Fri, 30 Sep 94 17:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Token Ring driver for Linux ([email-masked])
  Re: Process checkpointing (G Dinesh Dutt)
  Re: i486 Word length, anyone? (Sven Goldt)
  Floppy problems since 1.1.45 ([email-masked])
  Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (David - Morris)
  Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Alan Cox)
  Re: SMail security hole? (Thomas Parmelan)
  Re: fiber optic ethernet cards (Donald Becker)
  Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (David - Morris)
  AIC-7770 mailing list created (Carl G. Riches)
  Linux Console Device ([email-masked])
  Re: 1+ Gig SCSI Drives (Daniel Rogers)
  Re: C-News cleanup release finds bug in GNU 'join' (Henry Spencer)
  Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (Dan Newcombe)
  Re: Does Quicken work under DOSEMU? (Jon Freivald)
  Re: 900 MHz CB band??? (Bruce Janson)
  Is there a memory allocation debugging tool for Linux? (Henrik Juul Hansen)
  Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (Drew Eckhardt)
  How to get more kernel memory for kmalloc? (Thomas E Zerucha)
  Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Cyber Link)
  [DOSEMU] Running dosemu disables serial port!! (Joel M. Hoffman)
  What GUI to write for? (Marten Liebster)

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Token Ring driver for Linux
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 20:20:19 GMT

does anyone know of a Token Ring driver for Linux??

                                                               tb

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From: G Dinesh Dutt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Process checkpointing
Date: 30 Sep 1994 09:30:23 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,

Here is an entry from the LSM at sunsite :

Title:         Checkpoint Restart support for Linux
Version:       0.01
Description:   Allows the state of a running process to be captured and adds 
               kernel support to treat this saved state as a new executable 
               format and restart the process from it. Only simple processes 
               work in this version.
Author:        Steve Lord
AuthorEmail:   [email-masked]
Maintainer:    Steve Lord
MaintEmail:    [email-masked]
Required:      Linux 0.99pl14
CopyPolicy:    Gnu Copyleft
Keywords:      checkpoint, kernel mod
Comments:      Released in source form only, patch file for 0.99pl14 supplied. 
               Apply patch, rebuild kernel and build chkpnt binary.
DateEntered:   13DEC93
WhoEntered:    Steve Lord
EmailEntered:  [email-masked]
Location1:     sunsite.unc.edu: /pub/Linux/kernel/misc-patches/chkpnt_01.tpz (20179)
               <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/misc-patches/chkpnt_01.tpz">Location1</A>
===================================

I don't know if its really worth the effort to have the kind of support for
checkpointing that you are talking about i.e. to have the raytrace startup
again, TCP connections re-establish themselves etc. At least, kernel support
for them seems to be getting beyond the job of a kernel. Some of them are best
left to the application. But, some milder form of checkpointing may be good.

Regards,

Dinesh
-- 
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Love your enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to.

G. Dinesh Dutt,                                 email : [email-masked]
Hinditron Tektronix Instruments Ltd.,           voice : 8349393/8212262
SDF-2, Unit 63-A, SEEPZ, Andheri (east), Bombay - 400096.
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From: [email-masked] (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: i486 Word length, anyone?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 13:42:10 GMT

James P. Callison ([email-masked]) wrote:
: assuming that NBPW is Number of Bytes Per Word. Of course, I could be
: totally wrong--I can't find any reference to NBPW in any of the references
: I have available...

: I tried setting it to 32 (since the 486 is a 32-bit processor <shrug>),

Are you sure ? 32 bytes in a word ? ;) I would take 2 bytes for a
word, but maybe they mean 4 bytes for 32bit.

--
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*    # THE MOST IMPORTANT FINANCIAL QUESTION IS:  Where is the money ? #    *
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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Floppy problems since 1.1.45
Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:21:47 GMT

Hi,

I have been reading a while this newsgroup watching out for people
having floppy formating problems too. Doesn't seem so but maybe you
nevertheless can help:

Since kernel 1.1.45 (I now use 1.1.51 if I don't need to format
floppies, otherwise I use 1.1.38 :-) ) I cannot format floppy
disks. 3.5" ones, internal drive. No problem under DOS, but under
Linux using fdformat or fdformat2 (taken from sunsite) formating
always goes okay but when verifying the drive does not go beyond track
0 and fdformat exits after a while with the message: `Non-removable
media not supported'. Well, I assure you, I CAN remove the floppy
:-). Any ideas what it could be?

Martin

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From: [email-masked] (David - Morris)
Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 05:00:32 GMT

While ya'll are at it, shared scsi hard drives and/or CDROMs might be
intersting as well ... even if restrictions to one host r/w others r/o.
Source trees, netnets, etc. would be obvious candidates.

Also, when the discussion finishes offline, do post your results/plans.

Dave Morris

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:18:01 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Frank van Maarseveen) writes:
>This was done in order to route something across the same physical network
>without the need for an extra adapter. The second "virtual" adapter was
>referred to as le0:1, the ":1" part appended to the original adapter name.
>Though a bit unusual, there's nothing wrong with this I think.
>I suppose there are no plans yet for implementing this feature in linux.

If Solaris takes the 4.4 BSD route it has a linked list of addresses for
each address family. This worries me for performance reasons. Linux can
happily do what you want with the dummy inteface (and you can add more
dummy interfaces 8)).

        ifconfig dummy  my.other.addr.ess up
        arp -s my.other.addr.ess MY:ET:HE:RN:ET:NM 

Alan

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Thomas Parmelan)
Subject: Re: SMail security hole?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 23:46:49 GMT

John Henders écrivait:
>       If smail is doing this, it must be misconfigured. In the
>transports file there should be a line in the appendfile driver that
>tells smail to do the file append as the user who the mail is addressed
>to. The syntax is append_as_user. The above .forward hack doesn't work
>here, as the following debug extract will show.
>
>director <dotforward> matched <jh>
>    directed jh --> /etc/passwd ... send to file transport
>transport file uses driver appendfile
>  appendfile: write to file /etc/passwd
>insert_addr_list() called:
>        ERR133: transport file: failed to open output file: Permission denied
>        /etc/passwd
>write_log: /etc/passwd ... failed: (ERR_133) transport file: failed to
>open output file: Permission denied

This is because you already have a file named /etc/passwd.
Try it with a file that doesn't already exist (eg. /this.is.a.test).
It really works :-(

(Tip: if you don't have a /.rhosts, create an empty one...)

-- 
Thomas Parmelan - [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Donald Becker)
Subject: Re: fiber optic ethernet cards
Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:14:16 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>, Corey Sweeney <[email-masked]> wrote:
>has anyone seen a fiber optic ethernet driver, or does anyone have a intention
>of creating one?
>
>I havn't been able to find one.

If you mean ethernet adaptors that have 10baseF interfaces, Allied Telesis
has 10baseF versions of their AT1500 (79C960 LANCE) and AT1700 (Fujitsu
MB86965) ethercards.

There are no supported FDDI/CDDI, or ATM network cards at this time.

-- 
Donald Becker                                     [email-masked]
USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center,  Greenbelt, MD.  20771
301-286-0882         http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html

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From: [email-masked] (David - Morris)
Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 05:07:02 GMT

btway ... I am aware of a case where a special purpose computer had a spare
scsi adapter which was used to connect to a 'normal' DOS PC.  It is in
regular use.  The objective was to improve on 9.6kbs data transfers.
To avoid bus length problems, the guy who did it slowed the data rate way
down (don't know how) and uses 50kbyte/sec.  Just to confirm that 
computer adapter to adapter is possible.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.announce
From: [email-masked] (Carl G. Riches)
Subject: AIC-7770 mailing list created
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Carl G. Riches)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:01:32 GMT

Announcing the creation of a mailing list for developers and testers of
device drivers for AIC-7770-based SCSI devices.  To subscribe, send mail
to:

[email-masked]

with the body of the message containing the following:

SUBSCRIBE AIC7770-LIST <your name here, without the angle brackets>

do _not_ include anything else, not even a sig.
the mailing lists's welcome message follows . . .

carl

carl g. riches
college of forest resources         internet: [email-masked]
university of washington ar-10      voice:    206-543-2764
seattle, wa 98195                   fax:      206-543-3254

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Welcome to the AIC-7770 electronic mailing list.  This list is for
people who are working on device drivers for AIC-7770-based controllers
for Linux.  Use this list to communicate with other people who are 
developing or testing AIC-7770 device drivers (AHA-274x/AHA-284x/AIC-7770
motherboard).

Your messages to [email-masked] will be broadcast
to the entire membership.  We need a high signal-to-noise ratio -- please
help conserve bandwidth.

you can get help about the AIC-7770 mailing list manager and learn how to 
use it by sending e-mail to [email-masked].  put only
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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Linux Console Device
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 06:31:47 PDT

I have been playing around a little with the Linux console and am curious how 
or if it can be switched into an 8 bit character mode and how to get it to 
support color ANSI sequences (similar to 'ansipc' emulation present in 
Coherent's console driver).  I can use DEC SI/SO to switch in/out DEC 
graphics character sets, and it seems to perform correctly as a vt100 
console, but I am looking for ANSI color support.  Is there an escape sequence 
which controls the console's mode of operation?

I have looked a little at the source for console, but I have not been able to 
devine a mechanism to accomplish this from it yet.

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Subject: Re: 1+ Gig SCSI Drives
From: [email-masked] (Daniel Rogers)
Date: 29 Sep 1994 10:28:41 -0700

In article <[email-masked]>,
S. Lee <[email-masked]> wrote:
>If what I've experienced is the same to yours, you can just patch the
>Buslogic driver to make it return 'translation off' instead of on.
>Actually, OFF was the default when the driver was introduced into the
>kernel, but somewhere around 1.1.46 it changed, and I remember it
>breaking LILO on my system (I have a Micropolis 1.7G but the boot
>partition is on < 1G).

Well, the first symptom was that LILO wouldn't come up.  I though "Hmmm,
thats odd." and then just booted it with a floppy.

Then the crashes began, and it would run e2fsck each time, getting worse and
worse, turned out the partitions were overlapping between the 1 gig news
partition and the 20 meg swap partition, so as soon as the news partition
got full, it began writing into the swap space.

Not good.

>If you're interested I can dig out the patch for you.  But you seem to
>have already found it, no?  It's just a one-line change.

Actually, I just copied it off to another drive, turned on the extended
translation, re-partitioned and re-formatted the drive.  It works fine now,
but I suppose I could have just changed that in the source.

It would be nice if that were a little better documented somewhere.

Dan.
-- 
Daniel Rogers                   |  "Good tea, nice house." - Worf
([email-masked])      |  Linux - The choice of a GNU generation.

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Crossposted-To: news.software.b
From: [email-masked] (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: C-News cleanup release finds bug in GNU 'join'
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:57:40 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Steve Robbins) writes:
>...[Another annoying thing on linux: the standard includes
>insist on #define'ing atol(), which breaks the declaration in
>c-news/include/libc.h...

Grr, I thought I'd stamped out C News's bad habit of trying to declare the 
system functions.  I'll have to be more thorough.

My thanks to Steve for tracking down the GNU join bug.  I haven't yet
determined whether this is the source of the "awk problem" some people
have reported.
-- 
Justice for groups that doesn't include justice    |       Henry Spencer
for individuals is a mockery.                      |   [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Newcombe)
Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:25:24 UNDEFINED

In article <ianm.780705652@miles> [email-masked] (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
>[email-masked] (myers_lincoln) writes:
>>       I read in the SCSI FAQ that two SCSI hosts can share SCSI peripherals
>>on the same bus.  Is it possible for these two hosts to send commands to each
>>other?
>It is possible, yes.  I've heard of it being done before.  It's not
>terribly practical though, because the maximum length of a scsi bus
>is on the other of 6 meters, which doesn't give you much to work
>with...  You've also gotta be careful not to have the two systems
>both try to access one drive at the same time.

But even with the 6 metre limitation, it still would be great for several PC's 
in the same room.

>>having SoundCardNet.  Sound Cards would record each other's audio output from
>>across the room.  True short range wireless communication, though sleeping in
>Ulch.  Your error rate would be atrocious, I would imagine.
>"Hey!  John!  Turn your music down, it's making me drop packets!"

Well, I suppose that you could interconnect the line in/line out's.

Now, you put this all on a mixer and:
        "Hey! John! Could you mix me in a 50% mix of sunsite and tsx-11 on the left 
channel and netnews, gopher, and WWW on the right channel."

 :)

--
Dan Newcombe                    [email-masked]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes."       -Marillion

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From: [email-masked] (Jon Freivald)
Subject: Re: Does Quicken work under DOSEMU?
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 02:00:45 GMT

Justin Edmond Zaglio ([email-masked]) wrote:
> The title pretty much says it all: doe any of the DOS flavors of
> Quicken work under DOSEMU?  If not, are there any financial packages
> that *do* work under it?

I'm using v6 almost daily under dosemu 0.5pl1.  No problems.

Jon
--
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PGP V2 - 22A829/40 DA 9E 8E C0 A1 59 B2  46 3B 73 81 2B 7B 83 1F
Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it.

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From: [email-masked] (Bruce Janson)
Subject: Re: 900 MHz CB band???
Date: 30 Sep 1994 11:52:35 +1000

In article <[email-masked]>,
Shawn C. Masters <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Vassili Leonov ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: the WaveLan card, designed by NCR, that gives you about 2.5 Kbit/sec
>: link as far as you can beam 1Watt at around 910 MHz. This band is
>: at least for Spread Spectrum operation, which WaveLan is using.
>
>: p.s. Well - you CAN build a backbone using this stuff. Though they are
>: rather expensive - about $700 per card...
>
>       I think that is 2.5 Mbit/sec, ..
>..

The NCR WaveLAN cards give a maximum throughput of 2 Mbits/sec.
The cards come in ISA, EISA, Micro Channel, PCMCIA and parallel
port(?) flavours.
In the USA they signal (using spread spectrum encoding) at 915 MHz.
Indoors, using just the omni-directional antennas that accompany
each unit, they can be used to connect devices within a large,
open-plan office.  Outdoors, using (extra cost) directional antennas,
they are able to support point-to-point links, apparently up to 8 km.
I understand that DEC, Solectec and Digital Ocean also sell rebadged
versions of the same hardware.

Cheers,
bruce.

Bruce Janson                                    Email:  [email-masked]
Basser Department of Computer Science           Phone:  +61-2-692-3423
University of Sydney, N.S.W., 2006, AUSTRALIA   Fax:    +61-2-692-3838

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From: [email-masked] (Henrik Juul Hansen)
Subject: Is there a memory allocation debugging tool for Linux?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 15:42:43 GMT

Are there any tools available for debugging memory allocation in 
c-programs running Linux. I know of a commercial program called `purify`
but if there is a GNU or public domain program I would be happy if
somebody could point me to it.

To check the use of `malloc`, use of allocated memory etc.

Please send a copy of reply by E-mail to:
        [email-masked]

        Sincerely,

                Henrik Juul Hansen

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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 18:24:35 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
 <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
><[email-masked]> writes:
>> 
>>      I read in the SCSI FAQ that two SCSI hosts can share SCSI peripherals
>> on the same bus.  Is it possible for these two hosts to send commands to each
>> other?

Yes.

>>      I am asking because I would like to know how viable it would be to add
>> support to Linux for TCP/IP over SCSI, which might be practical for two or
>> three machines which already have SCSI support.
>> 

There are some ugly implications of this, and it isn't possible with some 
intelligent boards which have hidden enough of the underlying details from
the programmer and don't support a target mode, but otherwise it is 
possible.

>We did something like this about 7 years back at one company I worked for.... 
>Passing messages over the SCSI bus.... so here goes...
>
>1. Each host on the SCSI bus must have a separate SCSI ID.. The more hosts the 
>less devices... only 7 ID's available (i.e. host1=7 host2=6 cdrom1=5 hd0=0)
>

This is the first problem you're going to run into -

    You need some mechanism for telling SCSI boards what their 
    addresses are.

    Furthurmore, you need a mechanism to limit the devices detected
    on power up/boot if you want to avoid conflicts.

>2. The Linux SCSI driver would have to be hacked to accept async command 
>message from the bus (just like an HD does.. 

You're probably going to want to implement the SCSI Processor 
device model, since this is the only model the firmware on some
intelligent boards can support in target mode.

The simplest method is to choose a sender-driven model,
where the sender connects to a device and sends a 
SEND command to it.

Alternateively, you could have it receiver driven, where the
receivers execute a RECEIVE command on each sender, which in 
turn disconnects, and reconnects when data is available, although
this is more complicated.

>but most drivers don't support the 
>capability by default)... 

None of the Linux SCSI drivers have any notion of support for target mode.

>whats worse.. it takes an inteligent SCSI card to do 
>this efficiently (Adaptec 154x or better, 1520 wont handle it). 

Not necessarily - most of the dumb boards will interrupt when a 
SCSI selection or reselection occurs.  Given a typical interrupt
latency of about 60us, amortized over a large MTU (say 64K), this
isn't too bad.

> Next, the SCSI 
>card needs to interrupt when a packet arrives (1520 works in polled mode so it 
>would take buku cpu time to monitor for messages)... 

Selection/reselection generally trigger interrupts.

>       (?? Or am I lying and the Linux SCSI DRIVERS will accept ASYNC CMDS ??)
>
>3. Treat the interface just like an ethernet card.. but with no broadcast 
>capability, and fixed ARP tables on each machine.. Assign the SCSI bus its own 
>IP Network or SubNet.. then the ARP tables tell you the SCSI ID of the target 
>host... Sending a packet is just like issuing a command to a HD... and if the 
>target device times out responding to the command... drop the packet on the 
>floor... Just like ENet does if the target host is not available...
>
>Voila... 5 MByte per second TCP/IP! (or more for SCSI-2)
>
>That should cover the essentials.. NOW:
>       HOW MANY SCSI DEVICE DRIVERS NEED TO BE HACKED TO SUPPORT THIS ??

All the ones you want to use.  

>       I'm not a kernel guru.. but I'll take a look at the SCSI drivers over 
>the next week or so and see if there is any hope... I've already looked at the 
>network driver interfaces, and they appear to be no problem...

I've thought about it some, and it's _definately_ possible.  In fact,
it appears to be a nice way to do distributed communications.

>So as final answer to Lincoln's question:
>       Yes its is POSSIBLE to run TCP/IP over SCSI...
>       Ready to get to work writing it ???

If anyone is interested, we should probably take the discussion to 
E-mail, perhaps on the SCSI channel of the mailing list.

-- 
Since our leaders won't respect The Constitution, the highest law of our 
country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country. 
Boycott the United States until this changes.

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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 18:29:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jason Venner <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>With differential scsi, your scsi bus can extend quite a distance.
>With SCSI 2 fast wide/SCSI3 I think you are limited to 256 id's and 256 feet
>for the scsi bus.

Nope.   Differential busses are limited to 25 meters total versus 
six for single ended.  16 bit WIDE busses allow for 16 devices.

>So: given a little change in technology, networking via scsi will make a lot 
>of sense.

Not really - 

1.  Cabling with 25 pair shielded cable is _not_ cheap.

2.  100 base T is a 100Mbit/sec technology which can be wired with
    4 pair cables.

However, it would be a reasonable way to connect a few boxes on a 
desktop to get a poor-man's distributed computing system.
-- 
Since our leaders won't respect The Constitution, the highest law of our 
country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country. 
Boycott the United States until this changes.

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas E Zerucha)
Subject: How to get more kernel memory for kmalloc?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 02:16:31 GMT

To continue with my Telnet troubles (it stops transmission), I am almost
sure that it is happening because of (ultimately) a failed kmalloc.  Telnet
tries a send, and gets a EWILLBLOCK/EAGAIN.  There are only two places this
error happens in tcp.c in two places (in tcp_write), once when waiting for
a previously open connection to close, and when a socket buffer malloc fails.

I can understand with the various protocols, drivers, devices, etc. how I can
be running out from a default config, but:

HOW DO I INCREASE THE KMALLOCABLE MEMORY?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.minix
From: [email-masked] (Cyber Link)
Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 02:16:10 GMT

Well i am still trying to get Tnet to work on my machine... I have 1.5.10 
and have applyed the patches. (I wrote a script to do it) now the kernel 
will not compile!! when i do a make TNET it says i don't have enough 
memory to run cem. I am curently workign on adding the -F to the CFLAGS 
of all the Makefile's..... In other words this has been a long two week 
project and i still can not see the end! Any Help from anyone would be 
apreacheated(SP)

L8r
 From
   CL ([email-masked])

----Lots of other peoples Stuff------

Jay Ashworth ([email-masked]) 
wrote: : [email-masked] (Michael S. Scheidell) writes:
: >[email-masked] wrote:
: >NO HE DID NOT!
: >LOOK AT PATHS.  THIS IS A FORGERY!

: So it is.  My apologies.

: >PLEASE READ THIS.  I DID NOT MAKE THAT POST!
: >This posting did not come from our office, but we are tracing it.
: >If you look carefully at headers you will find sites that don't exist, 
: >and see that it does not trace back to [email-masked].

: I can never be sure... but they sure in hell don't match the headers on
: _this_ post.

: >Again, I did not do this post, and we have taken great pains to avoid 
: >offending anyone, and to date this is my first flame, even if undeserved.
: >I thank those who looked at headers and saw it was a forgery, and look 
: >forward to a solution to this.

: Again... sorry about that.  At least _my_ flame was polite.  :-)

: Cheers,
: -- jra
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From: [email-masked] (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: [DOSEMU] Running dosemu disables serial port!!
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 13:28:26 GMT

I'm running DOSEMU 0.52, and it's GREAT, except that when DOSEMU is
active on the console, nothing else can use the serial port!  If I
have kermit or rz/sz running on the serial port, communication simply
stops.  If I don't --- even worse --- mgetty goes crazy.  Incoming
FAX's and logins are not processed.

I've already taken all the serial lines out of dosemu.conf.  Is this a
known problem?  Has it been fixed in any of the pre_53 releases?  Is
there a workaround?

Thanks.

-Joel
([email-masked]


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__|~| 16 Million DEAD.           and the diameter of its destruction, about 7
                                meters, and in it four killed and 11 wounded. 
 cnc  Bosnia, Europe. 1993.     And around these, in a larger circle of  pain
 cnc  HOW MANY MORE?          and time,  are scattered two  hospitals and one
                          cemetery.   But the young woman who was  buried  in
                    the place from where she came, at a distance of more than
             than 100 kilometers, enlarges the circle considerably.   And the 
      lonely man who is mourning her death in a distant  country incorporates
into the circle the whole world.  And I won't speak of the cry of the orphans
that reaches God's chair and from there makes the circle endless and godless."
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From: [email-masked] (Marten Liebster)
Subject: What GUI to write for?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 11:58:29 -0400

I want to write a X application or two.  At first they would be for 
personal use, but eventually I might make them availble for the 
public to use.

I am not sure which GUI/toolkit to use.  It would be nice to keep it
portable to use under various UIs.  Do I have to use Xlib? or can I
write them using XView?

I would appreciate any guidence I could recieve.  Thanks for any and
all help.

Marten

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[email-masked]    I already know I can't spell!!

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