Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #727
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 94 08:13:08 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #727, Volume #2                 Fri, 9 Sep 94 08:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Colorado Jumbo250 (Edward Cannon)
  Re: Exercise for Experts (Larry Doolittle)
  Console speaker control? (Olaf Erb)
  Colorado Jumbo250 (Dennis Duffner)
  Re: What ever happened to Novell's Expose? (Ethan Henry)
  Digiboard on Linux (David Cabot)
  Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Kevin Martinez)
  Re: gcc 2.5.8 / g++ with -g does fail on XOpenDisplay( ) ?! (Michael Will)
  Fax on demand/voice mail box? (Humenberger Edmund)
  Re: Voice and Remote control together! (Larry Doolittle)
  API fpr phone???? (Humenberger Edmund)
  DOSEMU0.52 problem (NJBIRDMAN)
  Voice and Remote control together! (Humenberger Edmund)
  Script to limit access to a program (Dimitris Kontoudis)
  Re: Anybody seen the September issue of BTYE? (David Negaard)
  Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree? (Maciej Otreba)
  Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP (Garner)
  Re: Max size of SCSI HD? (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc. (John Henders)
  xxx to fig converter (Trink Andreas)
  Re: ACE modem/voicemail/sound card ? (Erik Troan)
  Problem with 1.1.49 & NCR53c810 pci scsi (Dan Halverson)
  Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc. (Klaus Lichtenwalder)

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From: Edward Cannon <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Colorado Jumbo250
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 94 23:47:31 -0500

I have used FTAPE with Jumbo250 and Linux 1.1.18.  Seems to work fine, however
I have had so many other problems with 1.1.18 I have gone back to 1.0.9 with
UMS support built in (on sunsite and rsx-11).  When you download the Q disks
and the D disks, if you load the D disks last you will get 1.0.9.  If you
load the Q disks last you will get 1.1.18.  I had to reload getty from 1.0.8
to get it to work at all.  1.1.18 seems to have heartache if you try to compile
it without networking... It compiles if you leave the netwroking defaults in
the make config alone.  BTW, the instructions that talk about lodlinux are
not quite correct.  The sample does not have the rw option set which freaked
out my computer when I tried to boot from DOS.  I am planning to pick up the
source for FTAPE and recompile it for Linux 1.0.9.  Maybe 1.1.18 will work
fine for you, give it a try.  Note FTAPE will not run with Colorado
accelerator cards... just leave it hooked up to your floppy cable and you
should be alright.

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From: [email-masked] (Larry Doolittle)
Subject: Re: Exercise for Experts
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 21:38:58 GMT

David Anderson (davida@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE) wrote:
: Like many others, I'm looking to buy a PC to put Linux on. I'm reading
: all the FAQs HOWTOS etc, and getting a lot of information. However,
: I'm still finding it difficult to make a decision about what to buy,
: about, but probably give you better performance.
: about problems) is:

: Pentium 90MHz (P54c) PCI
: 16 MB
: ATI MACH64 graphics card
: Adaptec 2942 PCI SCSI or BUS LOGIC BT-946C controller
: Disk > 1.0GB SCSI
: 17 inch Monitor
: Twin speed Panasonic CDROM

Oops!  The ATI Mach64 is not supported, and probably wont' be
for a while.  Try a S3-864 once XFree-3.1 comes out, until
then maybe an S3-928, or get by with an S3-801 ($100 throwaway).

      - Larry Doolittle   [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Olaf Erb)
Subject: Console speaker control?
Date: 7 Sep 1994 23:16:05 GMT

Just a question - I *think* there was a little program to control
the speaker duration and volume, but I can't remember/find it
anymore. Ok, it's no big job to write it using KIOCSOUND..but..
I'm wondering where it's gone :)

Any hints?

Thanks!
Olaf
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From: [email-masked] (Dennis Duffner)
Subject: Colorado Jumbo250
Date: 8 Sep 1994 11:19:12 -0500

Will this work with Linux 1.1.18??  If so, which version of FTape should
I have installed?  Thanks!!!!

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From: [email-masked] (Ethan Henry)
Subject: Re: What ever happened to Novell's Expose?
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:25:35 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Ron Holt <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Brandon S. Allbery <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>It was a figment of PC WEEK's imagination.
>>
>>++Brandon
>
>No it wasn't.
>
>Ron

Was too.

Ethan "Show me proof" Henry
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From: [email-masked] (David Cabot)
Subject: Digiboard on Linux
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:33:21 GMT

I need to know if anyone has written a DigiBoard driver for linux yet.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: Kevin Martinez <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 05:14:04 GMT

[email-masked] (Mike Gebhardt) writes:
>>In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:

>*** lots of other stuff deleted ***

>>>I know for a fact that you can't learn Unix (I mean learn it really well)just
>>>by fooling around with it.  So what's the point?

>I couldn't disagree with that statement more. Installing applications and 
>getting them to work on my Slackware distribution has taught me more 
>about the inner workings of Unices in general than anything else ever 
>could, and I've been in the computer business since 1981. 

I remember a time in my life when those 26 characters in our alphabet 
looked completely overwhelming and I was quite sure that it was  
impossible to ever learn them all. 

Some fooling around with pencils seemed do a great deal for my progress. 
I can even spell 3133t sometimes!

If you can't teach yourself, certainly nobody else could do any better.
 
Kevin "empiricism r00lz" Martinez
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From: [email-masked] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: gcc 2.5.8 / g++ with -g does fail on XOpenDisplay( ) ?!
Date: 7 Sep 94 23:11:44 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mitchum DSouza) writes:
>[email-masked] (Michael Will) writes:
>|> Well, if I compile the objectfiles with -g and link without -g it works,
>|> I can debug and all.

>Please give the *exact* messages yoy get when compiling with -g.
There is no special message, it seems to link ok. But when I run that
version which I linked with "-g", it fails at XOpenDisplay as described.
(gdb showed me it seems to call strncpy(0x0, "esaster,8) and thus yielded
a sig11 segfault when trying to copy to the nullpointer.) 

"esaster" is part of my hostname "desaster".

Cheers, Michael Will

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From: [email-masked] (Humenberger Edmund)
Subject: Fax on demand/voice mail box?
Date: 7 Sep 1994 23:48:37 GMT

Are there any applications available for Fax on demand and
telephone on PC. Interest on Linux!

for example you call a phone number, a computer asks questions,
you answer them by pressing the buttons on your phone,
and you can leave a message, or you get a fax, or you get a message
especialy for you.

please email me

ed

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From: [email-masked] (Larry Doolittle)
Subject: Re: Voice and Remote control together!
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 03:04:49 GMT

Humenberger Edmund ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Intel demonstrated it:

: over 1 phoneline two people talked and worked together on their
: monitors. (there are two pointers on the monitor).

: this will cost 199$.

: Intel also have as version, where you can see the other person.
: 2500$.

: I AM INTERESTED IN THE FIRST VERSION: (for support purpose) for Linux.

Sounds like you could almost do it now by piping /dev/audio
through a pair of term sockets.  Throw in the lossy compression
code announced here recently, and you might almost have it!
Now you have the classic bootstrapping problem:  if someone
has enough of Linux running to get their sound card configured,
their modem configured, term running, and this oddball pipe
invoked, they probably don't need your help!

IMHO, YMMV, just my $0.02, etc.

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From: [email-masked] (Humenberger Edmund)
Subject: API fpr phone????
Date: 8 Sep 1994 17:19:16 GMT

Are there Standards to implement these? (Intel, MIcrosoft)

I am going to put a Card (250$) into the LInux box and use it as
answering machine , and much more (much more is going to be a applic).

what is the appropiate newsgroup for such a question

thanks ed

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From: [email-masked] (NJBIRDMAN)
Subject: DOSEMU0.52 problem
Date: 8 Sep 1994 15:50:01 -0400

I compiled dosemu0.52 (kernel 1.1.35, GCC 2.5.8, etc. All went well, 
but when I try to run it to install (dos -A). I get  0 errors and 0
warnings in /etc/dosemu.conf (which is good news) and then a segmentation
fault (VERY bad news). I tried a lot of stuff, including recompiling,
removing ftape module, removing selection, etc. No change. Any ideas?

John [email-masked] (faster than via AOL)

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From: [email-masked] (Humenberger Edmund)
Subject: Voice and Remote control together!
Date: 7 Sep 1994 23:59:12 GMT

Intel demonstrated it:

over 1 phoneline two people talked and worked together on their
monitors. (there are two pointers on the monitor).

this will cost 199$.

Intel also have as version, where you can see the other person.
2500$.

I AM INTERESTED IN THE FIRST VERSION: (for support purpose) for Linux.

somebody else?
when yes. how much will you pay when Iam doing it (any offer wellcome).

ed

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From: [email-masked] (Dimitris Kontoudis)
Subject: Script to limit access to a program
Date: 7 Sep 1994 09:22:19 GMT

Hi all,
 
I am looking for a script (maybe executable program) that will
allow me to restrict access to a programm for a specific user
and for a limited time per day. That is, I want to be able
to detect if my user ``X'' has executed the programm ``Y''
today, for how much time and, hence, allow him (or not) to
executed it again until an upper time limit has been reached.
 
If anyone has got any such script or programm (or a pointer
to something relevant) and can share it with me, I will 
really appreciate.
 
Thanks in advance for any help you might give me,
 
Dimitris.
 
PS. PLEASE REPLY TO: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (David Negaard)
Subject: Re: Anybody seen the September issue of BTYE?
Date: 8 Sep 1994 18:51:51 GMT

Orhan Unal ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Has anybody read the article "Power of Cooperation" 
: by J. Bruce Dawson on Linux in September issue of BTYE magazine-page
: 167-168. Check it out. It's a good article IMO. I don't have the magazine 
: at my finger tips, but from memory I'll quote a couple of remarks from
: the article. 
: ...
: "Linux is not a bare-bones Unix clone. There is plenty of meat."
: ...
: "Linux has become what the Internet community wanted: a robust, freely
: available environment that has all the features of many commercial 
: versions, but with the openess and cooperative spirit of the early days 
: of Unix. It's anarchy at its best."
: -- 
I've read the article several times, and found it to be exceptionally
well-done and generally more than favorable.  It is yet another
vindication of my school's decision to replace our SCO system with
Linux.  There have been a share of difficulties, but overall it has
performed more reliably and been more readily customized than SCO
every was.  Now if it only had a 'sysadmin' shell...

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From: motreba@lnx1 (Maciej Otreba)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree?
Date: 9 Sep 1994 08:05:01 GMT

Dirk Eddelbuettel ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Very well that the ATI Mach32/Ultra/Ultra Pro are advocated for, but could
: someone give me hints for the best    performance/price    ratios ?

: My system is a 486DX-33, 16MB, ISA bus, 1024x768 interlaced 14'' SVGA 
: monitor so I am looking for an accelerated card that gives me 800x600 and 
: 1024x768 (but not more, no 2 MB cards needed) and that will be faster than 
: the 512 kB Oak Oti67 it will replace (this one sucks: TOTAL  3012.000000 
: xStones  reported by xbench).

: I am looking for something like
:       Orchid Fahrenheit                     140 USD       
:       STB Powergraph                        125 USD
:       STB Horizon                           95  USD    
:         cards with Cirrus Logic 5428 chips    price ? 
:       
: Comments, recommendations, flames, welcome under <[email-masked]>

Ok. I could recommend Cirrus Logic chip-based cards. They have great
performance/cost ratio, they are cheap (ca 79$) here in Poland. And I'm
sure they are supported by Linux (now I'm working on 486 equipped with VLB
Cirrus Logic 5428).

Maciej
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From: [email-masked] (Garner)
Subject: Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP
Date: 8 Sep 1994 16:12:23 -0400

[email-masked] (Richard Lindner) writes:
>: via TCP/IP standards procedure, which is much slower than serial line dedicated PPP 
>: error correction procedures
>aahh - but what if mnp4 or v42 is active? - would slip then be faster?
>enquiring minds are wondering .....

My experience with SLIP and PP gave me the following results:

At 28.8k with SLIP I got up to 125ms ping times with 1500 mtu.  I only got up
to 140ms ping times using PPP.
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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Max size of SCSI HD?
Date: 8 Sep 1994 20:02:48 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
John Saunders <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Dale Elrod ([email-masked]) wrote:
>> What is the max size that a single partition on a SCSI based hard drive?
>
>> I would like to place two 9 gig drives on my ftp server but want to be sure
>> that Linux can handle this.
>
>Going by the partition table format you should be able to get 8 Gig from
>a single drive. 

You can  access terrabyte drives under Linux, using the normal 
partitioning scheme.  With Remy's changes to ext2, you can 
even have 9 gigabyte partitions if you want.

>a single drive. If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
>If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
>be usable under DOS. I think Linux is limited by the partition table
>limitation. 

Linux ignores the H/C/S fields in the partition tables, and only 
looks at the 32 bit flat addresses which don't have this problem.

>I haven't tried it but, it may be possible to put the
>filesystem on /dev/sda rather than the partition /dev/sda1. Since /dev/sda
>is raw access to the blocks on the drive you should be able to create
>a filesystem of any size (up to SCSI limits) on the drive.

True.

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country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country. 
Boycott the United States until this changes.

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From: [email-masked] (John Henders)
Subject: Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc.
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 07:13:01 GMT

:: From: Bill Hiley ([email-masked])
:: I want to setup the modem on my Linux machine for dialout (for UUCP)
:: and dialin (for terminal access).  I have read the Serial-Howto, but
:: I can't figure out how to flip the modem between 'quiet mode' (for
:: dialin terminal access) and normal response mode so that UUCP can
:: chat to the modem and get eg 'CONNECT' type messages. 

: From: [email-masked] (Tracy R. Reed)
: There is an option in uugetty that will cause the modem to be on or
: off at certain times.  Look at the SCHED option in the getty man page. 

        Excuse me if I'm missing some subtlety here, but why can't you
just have the modem programmed to be silent by default, then have the
uucp Dialers string send the command to go into verbose mode? The you
can set the modem to reset when it loses carrier.

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From: [email-masked] (Trink Andreas)
Subject: xxx to fig converter
Date: 9 Sep 1994 10:23:20 GMT

Is there any possibility that xfig loads (imports) files with other formats
than fig-format, e.g. hpgl, ps, eps, ... ?

Thanks, Andi

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Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: [email-masked] (Erik Troan)
Subject: Re: ACE modem/voicemail/sound card ?
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:26:38 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Russell Nelson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Yves Dehnel) writes:
>
>   I saw a product at CompUSA today that combined in one PC card:
>
>   19,200 baud modem, fax, answering machine, 16-bit wavetable sound
>   with MIDI, Panasonic CD-ROM interface and kitchen sink.
>
>   It's made by ACE, I think.
>
>I saw it, too.  I want to use it under Linux.  Since I doubt that they
>include Linux drivers with it, I'd probably have to write my own.
>Does anyone know if hardware documentation is available from the
>manufacturer?  I've never heard of ACE either, so I don't know who to
>ask.

If you look more closely, I think you'll find it's built by Best Data, and
it's called the ACE card. It's made w/ licensed Mwave technology rom IBM,
which I worked on for a while.

It's good technology, but writing a Linux driver will be non-trivial. I doubt
IBM will release the internal specs of the DSP code that you would need
to write a driver (the driver/dsp interface is medium level - lots of
work went into it). Even if you could, you'd have to write a complete real-time
preempting OS to reside on the card. No kidding. That's why if can do so
many things at once. If you're seriously interested in this, talk to
me via email, and I'll seee if I can convince IBM it's a good idea.

Look at the size of the drivers though (such as mcifax.dll). The code is pretty 
complicated, but that's what gives it such good performance.

Erik

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Halverson)
Subject: Problem with 1.1.49 & NCR53c810 pci scsi
Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:34:43 -0500

I seem to be having a problem.  I have a motherboard with the NCR 53c810 PCI
SCSI controller installed on it.  Dos acceses all SCSI devices (1 NEC 3xi 
cd-rom, 1 DAT tape Drive, 1 1.7 gig SCSI HD), but LINUX refueses to see 
the SCSI interface.  I installed off of the fall release of the Yddrasil 
(sp?) cd-rom, which has 1.1.49.  I had 1.1.49 off of sunsite before, and 
when doing a make, I received some warnings about type-casts on pointers, 
but everything compiled fine otherwise.  Anyone else have any ideas?  My 
system is:

486DX-2/66 FIC motherboard W/AMI bios
212 IDE hard drive (boot partition for LINUX and dos)
1.7 Gig SCSI HD (dedicated to LINUX)
NEC 3xi CD-ROM
Archive 8 gig DAT
Sound-blaster SCSI to run SCSI devices under LINUX

On-board SCSI set to irq 9.  I was unable to locate any information on 
the base I/O address.  

                        Thanks
                                Dan Halverson
                                [email-masked] or [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Klaus Lichtenwalder)
Subject: Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc.
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:14:12 GMT

[email-masked] (Tracy R. Reed) writes:

>Bill Hiley ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: I want to setup the modem on my Linux machine for dialout (for UUCP) and
>: dialin (for terminal access). I have read the Serial-Howto, but I can't
>: figure out how to flip the modem between 'quiet mode' (for dialin terminal
>: access) and normal response mode so that UUCP can chat to the modem and 
>: get eg 'CONNECT' type messages.
That isn't really necessary, except if you try to stick with getty.

>There is an option in uugetty that will cause the modem to be on or off 
>at certain times. Look at the SCHED option in the getty man page. It will 
>execute the INIT string certain times, and the OFF string at certain 
>times. So if you know when your UUCP is going to be, and when dialins 
>will be, you can schedule uugetty to issue a command to the modem to turn 
>on quiet mode using the OFF string.
IMHO, too complicated ;-)
If you use uugetty, you don't have to run the modem in quiet mode, uugetty
supports "active" handling of the modem, that is, answering the RING
command or understanding any immediate CONNECT message.

There is a second package, again IMHO ;-) _very_ good, called mgetty+sendfax
by Gert Doering. It even supports incoming and outgoing faxes, but
you can disable it, if you don't have a fax modem.

Klaus

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