Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #733
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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 94 14:13:08 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #733, Volume #2                Sat, 10 Sep 94 14:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux DOOM comments... (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: [CDROM] Mounting PhotoCDs - possible ? (Alan  T Shutko)
  Re: driver wanted for NE3200 (Russell Nelson)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (David Engel)
  Re: DOSEMU0.52 problem (Konstantijn R.J. van Goor)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: Linux DOOM for X released (John B. Carroll)
  Re: linux-1.1.50 (Ralph Sims)
  Registering Linux Doom (Robert Ashcroft)
  Re: Linux Slip Server (Ralph Sims)
  Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Philip Brown)
  Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Trent Piepho)
  Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Steve Wicke)
  Re: SWT in Texas: Has anyone dealt with this firm? (power4)
  SCSI vs Sparc speed (power4)
  Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Daniel L Moore)
  Re: g3topbm problem ? (Uwe Bonnes)
  Re: Send me your xFree86 benchmarks (Arjan van Oeveren)
  Re: DOOM (Re: 320x200 X resolution?) (Robert J. Adams)

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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM comments...
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 06:33:40 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Skip)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> (3)  Do the function keys work?
>

Yes they do, at least using the XFree86 2.0 driver.

> 
> (4)  I'm not sure if there is supposed to be music or not.  Does anybody get
>      music or only sound effects?
>

I don't have a 16-bit sound card on the right machine, but on the SGI
version (which presumably is similar) there are only sound effects,
unfortunately. 

> 
> (6)  Is there any way to have DOOM use only the colors available instead of
>      grabbing the entire colormap?  I assume this is possible through
>      Xresources or something, but how?
> 

Most likely not, since DOOM! occationally changes the colormap it
uses.

The only thing about this that really saddens me is that ddt thinks
that the Linux version doesn't generate revenue; I will be getting the
registered version next week to use on my Linux system!

        /hpa
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From: [email-masked] (Alan  T Shutko)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [CDROM] Mounting PhotoCDs - possible ?
Date: 10 Sep 1994 08:17:05 GMT

>>>>> "Ronald" == Ronald van Loon <[email-masked]> writes:
In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Ronald van Loon) writes:

Ronald> I can't mount PhotoCDs. Is PhotoCD (which I believe is CD-ROM
Ronald> XA) supported by linux/isofs ? Do I need special software in
Ronald> order to use PhotoCDs ?

Well, I have a Corel PhotoCD sampler, which wouldn't mount under the
old nec-cdr-260 driver, but mounts under the new one.  Also, I have
heard other reports in this group of people with photo-cd.

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From: [email-masked] (Russell Nelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: driver wanted for NE3200
Date: 09 Sep 1994 18:11:59 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Andre Addicks) writes:

   can somebody tell me if there a driver available for a NE3200
   network adapter ?

No.  Rip it out and put in an el-cheapo NE2000 clone.  It'll probably
be faster anyway, because the NE3200 only has an 8Mhz 80186.

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Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do.

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (David Engel)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:30:26 GMT

Bill C. Riemers ([email-masked]) wrote:
: It sounds like, from other people's post, sound isn't working properly
: for anyone.  If I turn off the speakers and drop the screen resolution

The sound, both music and effects, works fine on my system running
1.1.50 with a SoundBlaster 16.

David
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David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
[email-masked]                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

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From: [email-masked] (Konstantijn R.J. van Goor)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU0.52 problem
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 08:12:59 GMT

[email-masked] (NJBIRDMAN) writes:

>I compiled dosemu0.52 (kernel 1.1.35, GCC 2.5.8, etc. All went well, 
>but when I try to run it to install (dos -A). I get  0 errors and 0
>warnings in /etc/dosemu.conf (which is good news) and then a segmentation
>fault (VERY bad news). I tried a lot of stuff, including recompiling,
>removing ftape module, removing selection, etc. No change. Any ideas?

>John [email-masked] (faster than via AOL)

I had the same problem. At that time I was running kernel 1.1.45. Nothing
seemed to work. I tried several other kernels, and finally I was lucky with
kernel 1.1.29. I installed it, recompiled dosemu and it worked almost
rightaway.

I hope this helps you,

Kostas van Goor
e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: 10 Sep 1994 06:39:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Martin Sohnius) writes:
...
>
>Over lunch today, I mentioned this thread to the guy who is in charge of
>software piracy issues for Novell-Wordperfect in Europe.  His reaction was
>"forward the thread to me".  (See above, re legal insurance.)
>
>BTW, I understand that WP 6 for UnixWare is in beta.
>
>--
>                        +--------------------------------------------+
>Martin Sohnius          | "It doesn't matter whether the cat is      |

Martin not only accused me implicitly of software-piracy (see this
thread a few weeks ago), he now threatens to set his legal bloodhounds
on this thread.  Obviously it is his right to do so but it effectively
portraits the horror that established firms feel when confronted with
new developments.

And it is so bloody stupid... Linux offers a new way to boost
WP-sales, which is a BIG seller, and all they can do is wave with
lawyers and insert fingers in dykes, because it might threaten that
Unixware of theirs, that is a SMALL seller and likely will remain so.

Guess in which department Martin (or should I say: Mister Sohnius)
is working...

Paai.

-- 
Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.

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From: [email-masked] (John B. Carroll)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
Date: 10 Sep 1994 07:52:13 -0700

I'll never boot DOS again! 8)

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From: [email-masked] (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: linux-1.1.50
Date: 10 Sep 1994 14:48:32 GMT

[email-masked] (Omer Zak) writes:

>Version 1.1.50 has been posted several several hours ago to ftp.funet.fi.
>Before upgrading my PC from version 1.1.8 to 1.1.50 I would like to know
>if anyone has already installed version 1.1.50 on his system and whether
>there are any problems with it.

I've installed it, and no problems.  It appears that amateur radio
operators may be in for a thrill, and there's a new Ethernet card
(LANCE?) supported.  It's fairly mild for an upgrade, but I don't
want to be caught 10 versions back and have something 'really big'
hit the streets; at least for now, reversing patches isn't that
much of an issue.

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Registering Linux Doom
Date: 10 Sep 1994 07:46:13 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
H. Peter Anvin <[email-masked]> wrote:
>The only thing about this that really saddens me is that ddt thinks
>that the Linux version doesn't generate revenue; I will be getting the
>registered version next week to use on my Linux system!

I was thinking about this today.

Linux Doom users who register should make it clear that they are
registering because of the Linux version.  This might help open Id's
eyes to Linux's potential.

RNA

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From: [email-masked] (Ralph Sims)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux Slip Server
Date: 10 Sep 1994 14:52:35 GMT

[email-masked] (David Garrard) writes:

>Iam currently trying to set up my Linux box as a slip server and I have
>come across a problem that has me stumped. I have created an account with
>a shell /usr/bin/dip -i and I have put it in /etc/shells. Every time I log in 
>with this account the computer tells me tha /usr/bin/dip -i does not exist and
>logs me out. However the program is there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I don't think you can pass a parameter (-i) to the shell field in the
password file.  Put the thing in a script and use the script for the
shell (although the chance might exist that the person invoking the
script could break out of it and have access to the O/S).

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From: [email-masked] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
Date: 10 Sep 1994 07:54:46 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pete Deuel) writes:

>512 K is *spoiled*, pal.  I used to see some really decent stuff on the old 
>C-64s (for the time).  And, back to the Trash-80 era, 4 K was once "roomy."
>I know someone who (still!) won't give up his 16K CoCo3 (I presume by now hes 
>up to the max K, though--48K?); 

Hey! THe max is 512k officially, and 2 meg unofficially.
ANd it can run OS9, too!

(for those of you who don't know, OS9 is by a company called micro_ware_, 
and is vaguely unixlike in that it is preemptively multitasking,
multiuser, and has a lot of i/o libraries fairly similar to the unix ones.
OS9 is used by bigger companies like Philips (In the CD-I machines, even!)
for real-time multitasking stuff.

It's usually on a 68000 platform.
Unfortunately, on the coco3 you have to deal with semented memory, and no
memory protection. Kind of a cool way to get into "real OS's", thou
I have a system for free if anyone can use it. (with K&R C compiler!)
floppy system only.

(a multitasking, modular kernel in less than 128k. You gotta be impressed
by that)

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[email-masked] [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Trent Piepho)
Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
Date: 10 Sep 1994 07:55:38 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Alan Cox <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Robert Logan) writes:
>>Yes, Linux DOOM is out  and its superb - as smooth
>>as in DOS and just as tasty. Much appreciation to
>>Dave Taylor for the work in the port - I can now
>>Dump DOS...
>
>Umm it seems to be unplayable on standard ISA video cards - even the better
>dumb ISA cards. Anyone running it with an ISA S3 card and a 8Mb 386DX40 and
>want to give a performance report since I need a new video card anyway.

I'm running it with a 486/66 and a trident 8900CL, which I hear is the slowest
non-accelerated card you can get. (does this strike anyone as ironic)  Doom 
seems to run at about the same speed as DOS, maybe even faster.  Of course I
have sound in DOS but I had to turn it off in Linux.  Anyone know what you
need for sound? Kernel >1.1.23?  Over 105 linux luck points? 

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Wicke)
Crossposted-To: biz.config
Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
Date: 10 Sep 1994 10:30:00 -0700

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pierre Uszynski) writes:

>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Dan Busarow) writes:

>>Steve Wicke ([email-masked]) wrote, in biz.config:
>>>     I would like to create a set of groups called biz.comp.linux* for 
>>> hardware, & software. Maybe we could just call it 
>>> biz.comp.linux.services. What do you think?
>>
>>5 comp.os.linux groups [exist].  Why [...] a new hierarchy in biz?

>And so far, distribution, configuration and consulting businesses
>have been welcome to post there (within the usual limits of decency,
>and etiquette...), and get mentioned in the FAQs easily. It's just that
>these are groups where these limits are actually respected, as opposed
>to many others :-( I guess that it has to do with the principals of
>these businesses being net dwellers themselves :-)

>Pierre.
>[email-masked]

The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux is 
that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for 
professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is 
commercial and people on the net (including myself) have a tendacy to be 
a little snide towards commercial posts in non commercial areas. I would 
like to open a group that would allow people like myself, Yggdrasil, 
Info-magic to post ads. These ads would be for the person who wants to 
try things like Linux but does not want to have to deal with hunting for 
help with their problems. Also it would give a place for vendors to have 
a forum to discuss problems with product and current sales.

                                        Joshua Drake

-- 
                Spire Technologies 1985 SW 6th Ave.
                Portland Or
                Phone (503)222-3086

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From: [email-masked] (power4)
Subject: Re: SWT in Texas: Has anyone dealt with this firm?
Date: 10 Sep 1994 06:27:04 GMT

I have seen a few posts to different news groups talking about how bad
these guys are! 

I would look at Fintronic. I am going to get my p90 from them.

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (power4)
Subject: SCSI vs Sparc speed
Date: 10 Sep 1994 07:01:03 GMT

>Before Linux can become a fast database server, it would better have a scsi
>driver which doesn't busy-loop during SCSI reads or writes.  Currently a
>Sun SS-1 with one disk is faster than an EISA-486-66 running Linux with 4
>disks, running the same database server on both.  It should be the other
>way round, with considerable difference.

Is this true? Does anyone know anything about this?

I am also considering a Linux box for a DB server.

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel L Moore   )
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
Date: 10 Sep 1994 16:46:53 GMT

[email-masked] (Erik Nygren) writes:

>I hope David Taylor will have a little bit of time to fix the byte
>ordering problems in pixel scaling.....  :-)  I don't know what their
>deal is with not making money off Linux.  I'd never buy a DOS game
>because I go to DOS so little, but I would be very tempted to buy
>registered Doom or Doom II for Linux.  

Me too.

Maybe the reason software development companies are reluctant to 
develop for Linux is how they view the user base.  We all got our software
for free, so maybe they don't expect that we would pay for anything. Also
there may be a big fear of piracy. Since we are "better" with PC's than
the average user, then they see us all as "hackers", too some hacker=pirate.

I saw an earlier post asking "How do I register Linux Doom?" I feel if
more of us stated they we were willing to *BUY* a piece of software for
Linux and actually went through with it, more companies would see that there
is money to be made from Linux users and would start developing high
quality software.  Let's face it, no company will develop where the 
potential for profit is weak.

The bottom line, if we want to see more high quality software for Linux
like Doom, we're going to have to pull out our wallets. 

More thoughts, but that's enough for now.
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* Daniel L. Moore                                           [email-masked] *
* University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign    --     College of Engineering *
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From: [email-masked] (Uwe Bonnes)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: g3topbm problem ?
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:32:45 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Wolf Paul) writes:

>I have just installed Rob Hooft's 1mar1994 binary NETPBM package, and
>trying to print a received fax with efax's "fax print" command
>resulted in the following error message:

>       "g3topbm: error allocating memory for a row"

>and no usable output.

>Has anyone encountered this before, is there a fix, or has anyone a
>suggestion, before I spend a lot of time tracking this down?

To convert fax-data I found the best way to use the tiff-tools found on
sgi.com: graphics.tiff. With "fax2tiff -M -4 (several pages of fax-data)"
and "tiff2ps -2a fax.tif >fax.ps" you get highly compressed level-2
postscrtipt file of your whole(!) document. Now you can apply all your
postscript tools, like psnup, psbook e.t.c. And no excessive use of memory.
And ghostview to lok at them!

Regarding "g2topbm", the is a different version in the
"mgetty+sendfax"-package from Gert Doering which is also beware of memory.

The original pbmtools sometime use the pnm-format as intermediate output,
which is 3 byte per pixel. Try to rotate a pbm-picture! 

 
-- 
Uwe Bonnes  [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: [email-masked] (Arjan van Oeveren)
Subject: Re: Send me your xFree86 benchmarks
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:14:48 GMT

Hello,

I would, if I knew how to benchmark my system under XFree.
How does one go about this ? Is there a util, readme or FAQ ?

A pointer would suffice.

Thanks in advance,

Arjan
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From: [email-masked] (Robert J. Adams)
Subject: Re: DOOM (Re: 320x200 X resolution?)
Date: 10 Sep 1994 17:58:24 GMT

Pat McManus ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [note c.o.l.d eliminated from distribution]

: last time on comp.os.linux.development, [email-masked] said.. 
: >:  perform like a dog on mortal systems, but it's very smooth on my
: >:  DX/2 66.  At sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming/linxdoom.tgz.

        It seems to run fine on my 486DX-33 with 8 meg of ram,
it takes a while to start, but once your playing.. its playable.

(i just cannot do anthing else, and have to put /etc/nologin ;-)

if only this 486DX2-66 sittting here didn't have a diamond video card..

Robert

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