Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #737
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 94 03:13:17 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #737, Volume #2                Sun, 11 Sep 94 03:13:17 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Any Sound Blaster drivers for Linux abailable? (Hannu Savolainen)
  Re: Linux Slip Server (Viktor T. Toth)
  Re: Looking for cheap DC-6525 tapes (525MB) (John T. Fontanilla)
  Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Anthony Lovell)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Russell Nelson)
  Horrific bug in DOOM! (Mark Stockton)
  Re: memory above 16Mb ? (Jon Freivald)
  Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Pete Deuel)
  Alpha processor
  seyon toolkit options, how? (Alex Wong)
  Re: Looking for cheap DC-6525 tapes (525MB) (Tom Young)
  Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Pete Deuel)
  Doom with a 8bit sound card and sox (K L Van Horn)
  Re: How to play .au file? ([email-masked])
  A little bit more advice (Drizzt Do'Urden)
  Re: 486dx4 vs Pentium 60 (C. Engelmann)
  Re: Nachos anyone? (David Holland)
  Re: Virus checker software for Linux. (David Holland)
  What do I get moving from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49? (Robert Logan)
  Re: Yggdrasil (Adam J. Richter)
  Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Glen Harris)
  Re: DOOM and Linux (Larry Mulcahy)

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From: [email-masked] (Hannu Savolainen)
Subject: Re: Any Sound Blaster drivers for Linux abailable?
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 04:03:56 GMT

[email-masked] (Matt Bruce) writes:

>Hi,

>Being relatively new to the wonderful world of Linux, I was wondering if
>drivers have been written for the Sound Blaster cards. In particular, I
>have a SB AWE32 with 2 Mb RAM, that would be a shame to leave to MSDOS
>alone.

You poor AWE32 owners!

It's not possible to write a driver which supports full features of the
AWE32. Creative Technology has not released information about the Emu
chip and I bet they will never do that. The same is true with the ASP
also.

The AWE32 works as a SB16 with Linux. However it's much cheaper to buy
a plain SB16 than an AWE32 or SB16ASP.

Hannu
-- 
=============================
Hannu Savolainen
[email-masked]
"Don't use Windows since there is a door!"

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From: [email-masked] (Viktor T. Toth)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux Slip Server
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 19:32:14

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Garrard) writes:

>Iam currently trying to set up my Linux box as a slip server and I have
>come across a problem that has me stumped. I have created an account with
>a shell /usr/bin/dip -i and I have put it in /etc/shells. Every time I log in 
>with this account the computer tells me tha /usr/bin/dip -i does not exist and
>logs me out. However the program is there. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

That's because login doesn't interpret a shell with parameters in the passwd 
file correctly. Create, instead, a soft link: diplogin -> dip and usr 
/usr/bin/diplogin as the shell; if dip is invoked with the name 'diplogin', 
that implies the -i.

Viktor

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From: [email-masked] (John T. Fontanilla)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Looking for cheap DC-6525 tapes (525MB)
Date: 8 Sep 1994 23:46:26 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>,
Janos Szamosfalvi <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Margaret S Voges ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: In article <[email-masked]>,
>: Angelo Haritsis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>: >Dear all,
>: >
>: >I am looking for a supplier to get *cheap* DC-6525 tapes (525Mb) 
>: >in the UK.  Any suggestions?
>
>: I'm also looking for DC-6525's or DC-6250's only I am in the US.
>
>JEM sells a five pack of DC-6525's for $70 + S/H.   Their phone
>number can be found in numerous computer magazines such as Computer
>Shopper, etc.

This is cheap if they're the 3Ms. Normally, they're $25 a piece from 
mail-orders I've seen. Now, I have to get C.Shopper.......

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: [email-masked] (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 22:16:08 GMT

Damien P. Neil ([email-masked]) wrote:

: installing a complete Un*x system from original sources gleaned from
: assorted FTP sites is NOT the work of a novice.

Keep it up, this is good for my ego.
Well not all from source, I lack the disk space to build GCC TeX X11 and the
lib's, that and an expensive dialup line.
--

anthony

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From: [email-masked] (Russell Nelson)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: 11 Sep 1994 02:49:44 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tim Smith) writes:

   Bill C. Riemers <[email-masked]> wrote:
   >  2. There is significant delay between action and sound.  i.e. I
   >     can fire my gun and then turn halfway around before the gun
   >     sound comes through my speakers.

   Get shorter speaker cables.

No!  Get thicker cables.  The problem is that the electrons (which are
really just like tiny elephants) can't travel as quickly in a narrow
cable.  They bump around too much if the wire isn't big enough.  If
you get thicker wires, then they can shoot straight down the middle
without bumping into the walls.

Electronics is really very simple if you understand the physics of it all.

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Stockton)
Subject: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 23:46:12 GMT

Seems that when exiting the Linux version, you are prompted to
"...quit to DOS?".  What a blood curdling thought!  Isn't it time
we put a rating system in place for these shareware games?

--
Mark Stockton
[email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Jon Freivald)
Subject: Re: memory above 16Mb ?
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 23:57:32 GMT

Andre Addicks ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hello,

: We are trying to setup a Compaq systempro (486/33 Mhz) with 24 Mb internal
: memory. We compiled the kernel (1.1.45) with the option:
: 'Limit memory to low 16MB' CONFIG_MAX_16M n
: Still after booting Linux finds no more than 16Mb. Kernel message:
: "Memory 15004k/16256k available (652 kernel code, 384 reserved, 216k data)
: Anybody knows where to find the lost 8Mb ?

: Thanks in advance,

Did you run the EISA config so that the system recognizes all 24 meg?

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From: [email-masked] (Pete Deuel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 03:57:20 GMT

>>(a multitasking, modular kernel in less than 128k. You gotta be impressed
>>by that)

>Why should I be impressed?  UNIX was orginally developed and run on 64k 
>LSI-11.  And it did a whole lot more a whole lot better.

Yeah, actually, what a trip.  Both are impressive as hell!  It's a miracle 
that any of that (and this!) works at all...

And you need 8+ Megs for OS/2 (12 for comfort, 16 for moderate performance, 
more is better)...  Phooey!

Linux all the way!  :)

Pete

===================================================
     "Actually, I'm a lab mouse on stilts..."

     E-mail:  [email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: Alpha processor
Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:49:06 GMT

I saw that someone posted some info about a prot of linux to the alpha
processor.  I could not find that info and was wondering if someone could tell me where to find it or summarize it for me.

Thanks in advance,
Jaime

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From: [email-masked] (Alex Wong)
Subject: seyon toolkit options, how?
Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:57:13 GMT

Hi all,

I want to set the delay time between each dial to 2 seconds instead
of the default 10 sec but with no success.

Looking at the manpages of seyon ,  there is a toolkit option called
dialDelay.  When I try to use this option by typing

seyon -dialDelay 2

An error message saying that invalid option.

How do I use the toolkit option?  

Thanks for any help.

Alex.

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Young)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Looking for cheap DC-6525 tapes (525MB)
Date: 9 Sep 1994 17:36:12 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Janos Szamosfalvi) writes:
>Margaret S Voges ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: In article <[email-masked]>,
>: Angelo Haritsis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>: >Dear all,
>: >
>: >I am looking for a supplier to get *cheap* DC-6525 tapes (525Mb) 
>: >in the UK.  Any suggestions?
>
>: I'm also looking for DC-6525's or DC-6250's only I am in the US.
>
>JEM sells a five pack of DC-6525's for $70 + S/H.   Their phone
>number can be found in numerous computer magazines such as Computer
>Shopper, etc.

 all sold out 
...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---

Tom Young
Information Scientist for Bristol-Myers Squibb Co., N.J., USA
[email-masked]

The views expressed do not represent
the views of my employer......

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From: [email-masked] (Pete Deuel)
Crossposted-To: news.groups,biz.config
Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
Date: 11 Sep 1994 05:01:46 GMT

[could not post to biz.config, as the original did]
In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Steve Wicke) 
writes:>From: [email-masked] (Steve Wicke)
>Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
>Date: 10 Sep 1994 10:30:00 -0700
>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pierre Uszynski) writes:
>>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Dan Busarow) writes:
>>>Steve Wicke ([email-masked]) wrote, in biz.config:
>>>>     I would like to create a set of groups called biz.comp.linux* for 
>>>> hardware, & software. Maybe we could just call it 
>>>> biz.comp.linux.services. What do you think?
>>>5 comp.os.linux groups [exist].  Why [...] a new hierarchy in biz?
>>And so far, distribution, configuration and consulting businesses
>>have been welcome to post there (within the usual limits of decency,
>>and etiquette...), and get mentioned in the FAQs easily. It's just that
>>these are groups where these limits are actually respected, as opposed
>>to many others [...]
>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux is 
>that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for 
>professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is 
>[...] I would 
>like to open a group that would allow people like myself, Yggdrasil, 
>Info-magic to post ads. These ads would be for the person who wants to 
>try things like Linux but does not want to have to deal with hunting for 
>help with their problems.

YEAH!  Imagine what "What's the best distiribution?" questions would yield!!!  
Let all the distributors vie for superiority! (in certain niches, including 
overall)

The bummer is, of course, that we'll all have 2x the number of news groups to 
read, too.  But, there is always cross posting...

I'm all for it!

Pete

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        E-mail: [email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] (K L Van Horn)
Subject: Doom with a 8bit sound card and sox
Date: 11 Sep 1994 04:07:26 GMT

I am trying to get Doom to work on my soundblaster 1.5 card and
keep the game playable.  I made /dev/dsp into a FIFO used sox to
do the conversion.  The game really slows down when using sox.  I
also need to know the play rate for the sounds.  Here is the command.

sox -t raw -w -s -r 42000 /dev/dsp -t .au -A /dev/audio

Would this conversion need a great amount of cpu time or could 
optimization fix it?  My 486DX33 really can't handle much more than
doom.

-Leif

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: How to play .au file?
Date: 11 Sep 1994 04:04:25 GMT

Depending on the card you have (ie: SB) you may use /dev/dsp with VOC
files.

You can convert them using the EXCELLENT Sox packages:

       Creator & Maintainer:
                Lance Norskog           [email-masked]

(maybe found under Lsox) It convert from/to almost any kind of format.

It can be found on sunsite.unc.edu
    Location: /pub/Linux/apps/sound
           FILE -rw-r--r--        231  Jun 18 16:46  Lsox-linux.README
           FILE -rw-r--r--     116646  Jun 18 16:46  Lsox-linux.tar.gz

Have fun!

Christophe Person
<a href="http://dirac.bcm.tmc.edu">
My Web Page</a>

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From: [email-masked] (Drizzt Do'Urden)
Subject: A little bit more advice
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 21:06:27 GMT

-- 
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From: [email-masked] (C. Engelmann)
Subject: Re: 486dx4 vs Pentium 60
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:00:24 GMT

[email-masked] (Dan Pop) writes:

>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Peter Hahn) writes:

>>[email-masked] (Zach) writes:
>>
>>>Hi i'm looking to get a system to run Linux but was wondering if
>>>someone could advise me on weather I should get a 486dx4/100 or a
>>>Pentium 60. The 2 systems I am looking at cost almost exactly the same
>>>but the 486 has a 520 mb SCSI hd while the pentium has a 420 ide.
>>
>>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Two arguments apperare in mind: First, a Pentium-60 benchmarks at 61 SpecInt,
>>a dx4-100 at 52 -- can't remember floating point exactly, but the difference
>>is tendencially even bigger. Second the memory interface of the Pentium is
>>much better than the 486 one. It is 64 Bit wide and knows of write back
>>cache.
>>
>>  There are even more reasons, but this two would be sufficient for me.

>You seem to ignore the fact that the performance of a Linux box does not
>depend exclusively on the cpu speed. The hard disk performance is also
>essential, and here the 486 box is at a clear advantage. The extra disk
>space is a bonus, too. 

>So, it's not going to be an easy choice :-)

>Dan

Harddisk-speed isn't that important in Linux. CPU-speed is definitely
more valuable. If you could get more RAM it would be more difficult
to decide. With 16 Megs you have almost no swapping to HDD.

Carsten

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Subject: Re: Nachos anyone?
From: [email-masked] (David Holland)
Date: 8 Sep 94 17:27:09

[email-masked]'s message of 5 Sep 1994 12:18:29 -0500 said:

 > >    Has anyone ported/compiled nachos operating system code to Linux?
 > >It is said to compile under FreeBSD etc.  I am working with version 3.2.
 > 
 > I compiled Nachos 3.2 when it first came out under linux.  The main thing
 > to do is remove all of the non-386 code from switch.s.  There are several
 > other changes, but didn't take me more than a couple of hours (much less
 > for someone who knows what he's doing)

It works just fine. You don't need to hack it up much at all; just
give it the compile flags for compiling on a 386. The major problems
are built in to nachos and will bite you just as badly on any
platform. 

--
   - David A. Holland          | -- "Do you have a moment?"   -- "Yes.
     [email-masked] | Unfortunately, it's a moment of inertia."

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Subject: Re: Virus checker software for Linux.
From: [email-masked] (David Holland)
Date: 8 Sep 94 17:31:10

[email-masked]'s message of 6 Sep 1994 22:27:50 +0200 said:

 > Would be nice to have a way to check diskettes for boot viruses, though.
 > They coldn't do any real harm under Un*x, I guess, but they could 
 > keep spreading ..  and I don't want to keep DOS around just for that !

Oh, yes, they can. If you get a boot sector virus onto your hard
drive, it will quite happily garbage up your Linux (or other Unix)
partitions when it goes off. The things use BIOS disk I/O before the
OS loads, which will run perfectly well... 

Assuming it's one of the sort that goes off, like Michelangelo.

--
   - David A. Holland          | -- "Do you have a moment?"   -- "Yes.
     [email-masked] | Unfortunately, it's a moment of inertia."

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Logan)
Subject: What do I get moving from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49?
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 21:36:09 GMT

Im curious as to what benefits a kernel upgrade
from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49 will give me - in general.
Ive already tried it and Ive noticed my CDROM now
works double-speed - a real benefit, but what are
the other main improvements overall?

bert 

(486/66 16 Megs, 540 Mbyte HD (EIDE), ATI Mach32 PCI)

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From: [email-masked] (Adam J. Richter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil
Date: 10 Sep 1994 21:56:39 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>Does Yggdrasil have an anonymous FTP site and if so could someone please give 
>it to me.

        ftp.yggdrasil.com

-- 
Adam J. Richter                           Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
(408) 261-6630                            "Free Software For The Rest of Us."

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (Glen Harris)
Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 94 00:12:59 GMT

Erik Nygren ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Alan Cox ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : Umm it seems to be unplayable on standard ISA video cards - even the better
: : dumb ISA cards. Anyone running it with an ISA S3 card and a 8Mb 386DX40 and
: : want to give a performance report since I need a new video card anyway.

: I'm running it on a 486/66 with the XFree86 Beta P9000 server (which
: does no real acceleration and just acts as a linear local bus frame
: buffer).  In this configuration, I get performance that is signifcantly
: better than the same thing on an SGI Indy.  There seems to be a byte

  I have a DX2/66 with 16M RAM and an ISA ET4000/W32i - with the NON-
accellerated SVGA server.  I'm using a symbolic link to my mounted dos
partition's 1.666 registered WAD file.  This port is faster than the DOS
version running on my old 486DX/33!!!!!  Now, to find out how to get a 
320x200 server - I have to squint in 1024x758, and 640x480 isn't much
better...... 8-)

  Maybe it's because I'm running my bus at CLK/3?  vgatest from SVGALIB
tells me I get 8.6Mb/s through my video card.  If I go to CLK/2, I can
get 11.6Mb/s.  Maybe I should try that?  Please take note all, this is
on a _ISA_ card - Dave, I'm sorry to have to tell you that you were
WRONG(!), a local bus card is _not_ necessary for acceptable gameplay.
Get your facts right in future! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

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From: [email-masked] (Larry Mulcahy)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
Date: 9 Sep 1994 12:12:54 -0600

Rob Ingram ([email-masked]) wrote:
: This was just updated and linux doom is out. If you don't have
: a Pentium though I wouldn't bother wasting the ftp time. Even
: in the smallest window size it ran like a dog on our 486/66
: with 16M of RAM. The readme file acknowledges that it will be
: slow and says that it was released anyway due to peer pressure.
: This is actually a bit disappointing as we only have 3 Indy's or
: 2 PC's and wanted a 4-way deathmatch. The DOS version won't network
: with the SGI version but I hoped that the Linux version would :-(

I just tried it today on my 486/40 and performance was quite
acceptable.  The graphics for the -2, -3 and -4 options were hosed
though, unless this is supposed to be new Underwater Doom.

Yog Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Larry Mulcahy                       That cult would never die till the stars
[email-masked]              came right again, and the secret priests
                                    would take Great Cthulhu from his tomb
to revive his subjects and resume his rule of Earth.  The time would be easy
to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones free and
wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men
shouting and killing and reveling in joy.  Then the liberated Old Ones would
teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and
all the Earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.

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