Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #743
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 04:15:33 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #743, Volume #2                Mon, 12 Sep 94 04:15:33 EDT

Contents:
  Re: WARNING about shadow-mk package (John F. Haugh II)
  Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Steven Pritchard)
  Re: Linux DOOM for X released (Michael Peek)
  Re: doom ??? ([email-masked])
  Re: How to use 14400bps with modem? (Jan Vilhuber)
  Re: Doom for Linux - status window (Christopher M. May)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Matthew D Porter)
  Re: DOOM linux with TERM support. (Mike Batchelor)
  Re: NEC 210/SB16 SCSI2 Problem (James C Crump III)
  Linux Doom comments. ([email-masked])
  Hard Drive size? (JKrautheim)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (Harrison Picot)
  NEC 210/SB16 SCSI2 Problem (James C Crump III)
  Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have? (Jason Stevens)
  Re: Virus checker software for Linux. (Phillip Hardy)
  Re: Ultrastore 34F vs Adaptec 1542CF (Monty)
  Re: DOOM linux with TERM support. (Bill C. Riemers)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  DTC SCSI driver for Linux? (Todd Lindner)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Hannu Savolainen)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: WARNING about shadow-mk package
Reply-To: [email-masked] (John F. Haugh II)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 23:07:45 GMT

In article <im14u2c.778889543@cegt201> [email-masked] (Joe Zbiciak) writes:
>The original /bin/login will deny any logged in user from using
>the -f (username) option if they lack sufficient privledge.  Period.
>Indeed, the only reason -froot was a problem was that /bin/login
>determined that the "active user" calling /bin/login was indeed root
>and therefore had permission to use the -f switch.  Any user, once
>logged in, cannot use the -f option unless that user is indeed root.
>
>For those persons interested in verifying this statement, log in
>as a regular user and type "/bin/login -f root" or "/bin/login -froot"
>and see what happens.  You'll not become root.  The problem was in
>rlogin and console logins, where /bin/login was being invoked by
>root itself, rather than being invoked as suid-root.  Apparently, the 
>old /bin/login uses getuid() instead of geteuid() to determine the 
>real user id of the user executing the program.

The easiest solution is to use the patch I posted several months
ago and apply that to lmain.c.  It closes the hole correctly and
doesn't require any extra wrapper commands.

Just to echo my disdain for binary-only distributions, I had a friend
who recently was forced to buy a Linux CD pretty much because the
spare CD I have was binary-only.  So far the only people making money
off of Linux are the CD shops.
-- 
John F. Haugh II  [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ]   @'s: [email-masked]
 There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
 States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.

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From: [email-masked] (Steven Pritchard)
Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:09:06 -0600

[email-masked] (Mark Stockton) writes:

>Seems that when exiting the Linux version, you are prompted to
>"...quit to DOS?".  What a blood curdling thought!  Isn't it time
>we put a rating system in place for these shareware games?

Kind of like that "Shell to DOS" in xfractint, huh?

Steve
-- 
[email-masked]             |  Steven
[email-masked]             |  Pritchard
GCS/M/S d? p+ c++(++++) l++ u+(-) e+ m+(---) s/+ !n h--- f+ g+ w@ t++ r- y?

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Peek)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
Date: 12 Sep 1994 00:41:45 GMT

David Taylor ([email-masked]) wrote:
: DOOM v1.666 for Linux using X is available at:

I wonder: If this is a specific Linux port, and no other ports are in the
works, it seems to me that the program would pick up a lot of speed if it
used the SVGALIB routines.  It sure would be easier to see!

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: doom ???
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 94 20:41:55 PDT

In article <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]> writes:

> I got doom for linux..........
> comment:  I have noticed that it does run better in twm and better still
> in olwm than it does in fvwm.  This is unfortunate since I prefer fvwm.

Sounds like it would run best with no window manager at all (or any other 
signifigantly large processes)... might be worth building a custom 'startx' 
just for Doom.

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From: [email-masked] (Jan Vilhuber)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: How to use 14400bps with modem?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:04:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Steven M. Gallo <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Kristian Mowinckel <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>Today my USRobotics Sportster 14400 FAX MODEM arrived.
>>Now I use it at 9600 bps since 14400 is not an option offrered.
>>(I use Seyon by the way.)
>>How can I use 14400 bps?
>>
>Use the 19200 baud speed for your serial port.  That way the
>serial port sends to the modem at 19200 baud, the modem then
>compresses and sends the data over the phone lines at 14400.
>

(I *SHOULD* say RTFM, since *MY* sportser manual tells me the answer...)

Reeally what you should do is set the port speed to the highest possible
rate the the chip will support. If you have a UART 16550, then go ahead
and set it to 38400 (or even 56700??) Remember that a 14400 modem will do
compression and the such, and I have HEARD (never seen) that on good
days, when the moon is right, and so on, you _might_ get a throughput rate
of 56kB.

I run mine at 38400 with a UART 16550, and it works just fine.

Jan
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Christopher M. May)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: Doom for Linux - status window
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:49:27 GMT

songbird ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >Does anyone else have the problem that the status window with the
: >guy's head and health doesn't show up? I just get the whole window
: >filled with the dungeon view and have no idea how much health is left.
: >
: >Thanks, Steve

: Steve: hit ESC, go to Options, select Screen Size and decrease it one notch.

: -- 
: [email-masked]
:                               God fights on the side of the heaviest artillery.

Hitting plus and minus during play has the same effect.

--

-Chris May, Computer Science, University of MA, Amherst
-       Technical Assistant, P.C. Maintenance Lab

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From: [email-masked] (Matthew D Porter)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:59:59 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Stuart C Spivack <[email-masked]> wrote:
>       I really hope that you are kidding. I'd hate to think that our
>fine educational system is producing people so stupid that they can't
>recognize HUMOR.  I thought that the "Get shorter cables" comment was
>actually amusing.

Me too, but then somebody crossposted this thread into sci.electronics.  Arggh,
folks need to add smileys for those who are humor impaired.  The sci.elect
crowd will not be amused :-).

-- 
Matt Porter                     THE Ohio State University,
[email-masked]                 THE College of Engineering,
PGP public key on request       THE Department of Electrical Engineering.

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: Re: DOOM linux with TERM support.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 01:43:48 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Christophe Person) writes:

> Like you all know, DOOM linux is out.

> But what about a DOOM linux version that run with TERM ? It would be less
>painfull that blocking your computer using the modem version. I don't know 
>if it wouldn't be simpler to have a IHHD server supporting term instead.

>Opened discussion....

I hear that linuxxdoom uses udp sockets, so term is a no-op.

What is IHHD?

-- 
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People are like a box of chocolates.  Yum!
                                           -- Forrest Dahmer

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From: [email-masked] (James C Crump III)
Subject: Re: NEC 210/SB16 SCSI2 Problem
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 01:03:24 GMT

James C Crump III ([email-masked]) wrote:
Oops there was a problem with my first post.  To recap I have a NEC 210 and
SB16-SCSI2 but unfortunately I can't get Linux to recognize my cdrom.  It
appears that I need to disable parity checking in the driver.  Does anyone
know how to do that?  Linux (Slackware 2.0.0) sees the controller card okay
but the cdrom light just stays on (just as it did under DOS till I disabled
parity checking).  Any help will be appreciated.

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Linux Doom comments.
Date: 10 Sep 1994 04:00:22 GMT

First of all, thanks Dave. 

I have some problems also with the sound: I have been said that there is 
no music only effects (to confirm) In fact, I just hear garbage.

The pixel doubling, tripling, etc blur the window.

When using the Ctrl-Key (FIRE) at the same time than the arrows, I switch 
to the other rooms (screens). The only way out of this is to run Olwm instead
of fvwm or others mwm like.

The network part seems to not be compatible with SGIxdoom. Hope it will be
in the future.

I patched my registered version 1.2 to 1.666 but the file is not recognized
by linuxxdoom.

I guess Dave was "under pressure" to release this version and I thank him
again.

cp++;

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From: [email-masked] (JKrautheim)
Subject: Hard Drive size?
Date: 11 Sep 1994 21:26:07 -0400

I am building a Linux system and am wondering how much HD space I will
need.  I know that more is always better, but what is an optimal size?

I currently have a Maxtor LXT-340S and a Quantum LPS540S.  Can I get away
with 340?  I would like to put the 540 in my new Pentium Windows (no
flames please) machine.

Thanks in advance,
John

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From: [email-masked] (Harrison Picot)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:34:03 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, J.J. Paijmans <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Martin Sohnius) writes:
>...
>>
>>Over lunch today, I mentioned this thread to the guy who is in charge of
>>software piracy issues for Novell-Wordperfect in Europe.  His reaction was
>>"forward the thread to me".  (See above, re legal insurance.)
>>
>
>Martin not only accused me implicitly of software-piracy (see this
>thread a few weeks ago), he now threatens to set his legal bloodhounds

If my memory serves, Martin suggested that you wouldn't be likely
candidate for a free review copy. He might be implying that you
wouldn't be likely to help sales.  You don't need to expand on that
in a bad way,  and then blame it on Martin.

[snip]
>And it is so bloody stupid... Linux offers a new way to boost
>WP-sales, which is a BIG seller, and all they can do is wave with

If WP is going to give away software, why not give it to those of
us that paid for the development?  Like me, I have bought it, DOS
and Unix, since DOS 4.2.  Looks silly doesn't it, they should make
me pay, because I did the in the past, and give it you for free, in
that hopes that the best selling UNIX application of all time can
sell more?  If they give it away, they aren't going to be able to
sell any more.  And if they give to you when I'm the one that paid to
see it written, are you going to give them a job?  You can write your
own editor; WordPerfect is for business.  And if you need it for 
business, shame on you for wanting to sell another's labor as your own.

>lawyers and insert fingers in dykes, because it might threaten that
>Unixware of theirs, that is a SMALL seller and likely will remain so.

If  UW doesn't get any bigger than NetWare, it will do just fine.  Lots
of UW users have respect for Linux, but recognize that it is not all
things to all people.  You don't need to wack UW just because Novell
people don't want to give you their work for free.  

>
>Paai.
>
>-- 
>Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
>gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
>oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
>outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.

-Harrison

-- 
Harrison Picot, II    + "Murder must advertise, and so must Novell."   
2407 Raymond Place    :                                Dorothy L. Sayers 
Haymarket, VA 22069   + "Death on the Nile is to be preferred to letting   
USA    703.754.8891   :  Microsoft soil your computer".  Agatha Christie

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From: [email-masked] (James C Crump III)
Subject: NEC 210/SB16 SCSI2 Problem
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 02:34:43 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Jason Stevens)
Subject: Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have?
Date: 11 Sep 1994 22:00:16 -0400

A friend of mine runs linux on a 80386sx-16Mhz with 5 Megs of ram... and 
10meg swap.. it's faster as a multiuser platform than it is as a single 
user but to compile a kernel.. WOW there goes 6+ hours... I use my 486 
for that! <G>

        I also use to run it on a 80386sx-16Mhz with 2.5 megs of ram.. 
not bad.... better than MessDoz/WindBlozE!

cu!

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Phillip Hardy)
Subject: Re: Virus checker software for Linux.
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:05:59 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
: >I'm pretty laid-back about the threat of Unix viruses.
: 8<--------------->8

: Would be nice to have a way to check diskettes for boot viruses, though.
: They coldn't do any real harm under Un*x, I guess, but they could 
: keep spreading ..  and I don't want to keep DOS around just for that !

Errr 
Hay guys. 
Think... lets take for an example this idear...

 ok.
virus spreads on boot floppys.
when the key gets of 0x0ff it then 
looks at say 0xff00 and takes a byte.
now it writes this byte to sector 0, head 0, Cyl 0... etc etc.
and just keeps going till say sec 17, Head 4, Cyl 600

Now how do you expect to be protected from that???
some ppl do run dos and linux...
so it is possable for this to happen...
 So if you run dos/linux/sco etc.
best bet is to run someting like scan in your dos side.
(i run a dos virus checker on my other box...)

Just my 2.5c worth...

Phill.

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From: [email-masked] (Monty)
Subject: Re: Ultrastore 34F vs Adaptec 1542CF
Date: 12 Sep 1994 07:03:25 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
|> 
|> How do these two boards compare for ease of setup, use, etc with Linux?
|> 
|> The 34F is a VLB board, the 1542 is ISA.  Does that mean you get DMA
|> above 16MB on the 34F?

Yes.  The 34F is the fastest SCSI card I've ever used with Linux, including the
new VESA BusLogics (the BusLogics have other features that recommend them, tho.
The 445S, for example, is an excellent card, but a tad slower than the 34F and
somewhat more expensive.)

|> 
|> I noticed something about manually having to give the disk dimensions
|> in the case of the 34F while reading the SCSI HOWTO.

This would not be related to the 34F.  It certainly never happened with mine...

|> 
|> I know that Ultrastore has gone bankrupt.
|> 
|> Any comments about the advisability of swapping out my 1542 for a 34F?

Ultrastor is gone, true.  However, Adaptec offers no support for Linux either. 
So long as the Ultrastor arrives functional, you get equal support from either :)

|> 
|> Finally, if I were to do so, would the 34F need to read the data on 
|> my harddisk as it stands, or would I have to do a backup of everything 
|> first and then load stuff back on? 

It will read the data as it stands.

Monty

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From: [email-masked] (Bill C. Riemers)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM linux with TERM support.
Date: 12 Sep 1994 02:43:34 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Batchelor <[email-masked]> writes:

    Mike> In <[email-masked]>
    Mike> [email-masked] (Christophe Person) writes:
    >> Like you all know, DOOM linux is out.

    >> But what about a DOOM linux version that run with TERM ? It
    >> would be less painfull that blocking your computer using the
    >> modem version. I don't know if it wouldn't be simpler to have a
    >> IHHD server supporting term instead.

    >> Opened discussion....

    Mike> I hear that linuxxdoom uses udp sockets, so term is a no-op.

    Mike> What is IHHD?

Why?  Most udp programs work with term.  I'm willing to bet that if
linuxxdoom was compiled with -include /usr/local/src/term/termnet.h
and -ltermnet it would work with no modifications to the source code.
In fact I've been thinking of editing the binary to change the library
references, but since I've nevered tried editing a binary before I'm 
not sure if I'll be successfull.  Changing the jump addresses is easy, but
I don't know if I can selectively change the library name being referenced.

                               Bill

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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 11 Sep 1994 04:03:13 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
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Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Todd Lindner)
Subject: DTC SCSI driver for Linux?
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 02:41:30 GMT

Is there a DTC SCSI driver out there for Linux?  because I have a DTC scsi 
controller and I can't make my SCSI drive work with Linux.  Please help!

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From: [email-masked] (Hannu Savolainen)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 06:10:06 GMT

[email-masked] (Bill C. Riemers) writes:

>  2. There is significant delay between action and sound.  i.e. I
>     can fire my gun and then turn halfway around before the gun
>     sound comes through my speakers.

Are you using version 2.90-2 of the sound driver. Sound effects
will be about a second late with earlier versions.

Hannu
-- 
=============================
Hannu Savolainen
[email-masked]
"Don't use Windows since there is a door!"

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