Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #751
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Linux-Misc Digest #751, Volume #2                Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Dennis Flaherty)
  Re: memory above 16Mb?  ISA SYSTEM (Rich Derr)
  Re: What do I get moving from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49? (Russell Nelson)
  RAMDAC's in ATI Ultra Pro (Paal Beyer)
  Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive! (Trent Piepho)
  Re: What is a BogoMIP? (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: DOOM and Linux (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: Games Make the OS (was: Re: Can't Run Doom!!) (Rob Janssen)
  Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: color from ncurses on console (Miguel de Icaza)

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,sci.electronics
From: [email-masked] (Dennis Flaherty)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 05:00:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Russell Nelson <[email-masked]> wrote:
> In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked]
> (Tim Smith) writes:
> 
>    Bill C. Riemers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>    >  2. There is significant delay between action and sound.  i.e. I
>    >     can fire my gun and then turn halfway around before the gun
>    >     sound comes through my speakers.
> 
>    Get shorter speaker cables.
> 
> No!  Get thicker cables.  The problem is that the electrons (which are
> really just like tiny elephants) can't travel as quickly in a narrow
> cable.  They bump around too much if the wire isn't big enough.  If
> you get thicker wires, then they can shoot straight down the middle
> without bumping into the walls.
> 
> Electronics is really very simple if you understand the physics of it
> all.

No, no, no!  He needs to put the monitor up above his head.  Don't you
know that electrons go faster downhill?  It's this thing called
"gravity".  Any six-year-old knows this.

Sheese.

-- 
Dennis Flaherty           [email-masked]
    Oatmeal Stout: It's the Right Thing to Drink!

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From: [email-masked] (Rich Derr)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: memory above 16Mb?  ISA SYSTEM
Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:35:37 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>,
Andre Addicks <[email-masked]> wrote:
>We are trying to setup a Compaq systempro (486/33 Mhz) with 24 Mb internal
>memory. We compiled the kernel (1.1.45) with the option:
>'Limit memory to low 16MB' CONFIG_MAX_16M n
>Still after booting Linux finds no more than 16Mb. Kernel message:
>"Memory 15004k/16256k available (652 kernel code, 384 reserved, 216k data)
>Anybody knows where to find the lost 8Mb ?

   I have a similar problem.  I have a Dell 486P/50 (ISA bus) with 24MB of RAM.
(IDE disk, ATI Vantage video, Wangtek QIC-02 tape.)  POST reports 24 MB.  Dell
UNIX (this machine's former OS) used all 24.  Help?  It would be really useful
for what I'm doing.

   I think I've read the FAQ and HOW-TO and whatever, but I may have left
something out.  Anyone?  I've tried it with both 1.0.9 and 1.1.49 kernels
with CONFIG_MAX_16M set both ways.  I know there are problems with >16M on
ISA systems, but since I didn't buy this one (it's been here two years
longer than I have) I won't take the blame for that.

   ???  Thanks.
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     Bernie Taupin (wish I knew) and Rich Derr ([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Russell Nelson)
Subject: Re: What do I get moving from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:29:46 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Robert Logan) writes:

   Im curious as to what benefits a kernel upgrade
   from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49 will give me - in general.
   Ive already tried it and Ive noticed my CDROM now
   works double-speed - a real benefit, but what are
   the other main improvements overall?

Read the kernel patch summaries.  ftp.emlist.com:pub/kchanges/*.

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From: [email-masked] (Paal Beyer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: RAMDAC's in ATI Ultra Pro
Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:15:37 GMT

Hi,

Im about to purchase a new video card, ATI Ultra Pro VL-bus.
I have heard that these cards have different RAMDAC's. Which
RAMDAC is the one to go for??? Some are slower than others
I've heard.

Which XFree-server version is the best to use ??

Please mail, I will send summary if needed, as the traffic here
may make me miss your reply.

Thanks in advance,
Paal Beyer
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Trent Piepho)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive!
Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:45:48 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jim Sun <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
>>[email-masked] (Rene Baart) writes:
>
>>>All in all, this is something no Linux/X user should be without.
>>>Even without high-end equipment, you really should see this!
>
>>I beg to differ- it flies under MS-"DOS" here on a 486 33 DX with an ISA
>>16 bit Orchid Prodesiger II ET4000, 16MB RAM.  Under Linux it crawls at
>>about 1 frame every two seconds.  I don't think the requirement for
>>faster video cards is a joke.
>
>I hope Rene (the first poster) meant a tongue-in-cheek joke.  I can't imagine
>what 386-40 running linuxxdoom is like.  My current 486-25/75 with 16Mhz ISA 
>(Stealth24) runs the dos version of doom about three times as fast my
>old 386-40 using the same card (on 10MHz ISA).  Running linuxxdoom with the
>486-75, I can get smooth motion only at third smallest (yeah, now we are counting
>from innermost out, instead of from full-screen and inward) screen setting;

I've got a 486-66 /w 8 megs and a trident 8900cl (not 16 MHz), both of which
should give slower performance than your system.  But my linuxdoom is just fine
in full window size.  I think it is even faster than dos, but it will probably
slow down when I turn on sound.  I think you just have some kind of setup 
problem.  Does it say "using MIT-SHM" when is starts up?  

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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: What is a BogoMIP?
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 23:58:51 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Thomas L. Fors)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> I am brand new to Linux (just installed it this weekend) and was
> wondering what the heck a BogoMIP is?  I couldn't find an answer to
> this anywhere else. 
> 

It's one MIPS - two MIPS.  Anyway.  The BogoMIPS number is a
measurement of how fast your machine does absolutely nothing.

        /hpa
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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:59:10 GMT

H. Peter Anvin ([email-masked]) wrote:

> The original name for the glorified boot loader now known as MS-DOS
> was QDOS, which stood for Quick and Dirty Operating System.  Note that
> the letter Q has since been dropped.

Huh? I know QDOS as a separate product. Sort of in the lvein of 4DOS. Is
this a coincidence?
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From: [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:25:34 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Martin Sohnius) writes:
>An unfortunate flame-has started here between J.J. (Hans) Paaijmans and
>myself.  I had indeed not realised that he felt threatened by my occasional
>references to legal software copyright issues.  He was not the target,
>and my argument with him was about totally different issues.

I felt not *threatened* but vexed by something I felt as a slight to my
ethics and professionalism. If you want to clarify your statements and
seek a solution, it is fine with me.
...
>
>What I saw as his problem in getting review copies, was NOT his opinions
>regarding nicked software, which he shares with most academic users I have
>ever spoken to, and which I describe i the snip as "mostly valid", but
>rather the combination of his earlier claim to be a computer journalist,
>and his obvious ignorance of arguably the biggest piece of PC-software news
>this year:  the Novell-Wordperfect merger.
>
>But obviously, he didn't understand me on this point:

Right you are. And as you followed this thread, you should have seen this fact
before. But although the merger of Novell-WP did not escape me, it certainly 
didn't and doesn't interest me, because my interest is in software, not
finance.

(hans paijmans):
>| guess in which department Martin (or should I say: Mister Sohnius)
>| is working...
>
(Herr Doktor Sohnius):
>In case you are interested, it's Dr. Sohnius, but Herr Sohnius, or even
>better, Herr Dr. Sohnius will do.   And the department is Novell Labs, the
>Certification People.
>
>Looks like he still hasn't understood that UnixWare and Wordperfect 
>come from the same company, for heaven's sake!

Me again:
Heaven just threw an english dictionary down (missed too!) and it  pointed out
that "departments" generally are inside the same organisation. If I use that
word, it indicates that I am aware of both products belonging to the
same firm. In holland that does not mean that there may not be 'presidents'
of the separate departments, but perhaps I should use the word 'director'?
No, doesn't sound right. How do you call the boss of Wordperfect INSIDE the 
Novell-WP company in the english language?

Anyway, rest assured. If our editor-in-chief wants a story about mergers
she certainly asks somebody else. If she wants a piece on the working of
software or design philosophy, she (sometimes) asks me.

And to flaunt your academic titles is childish. I don't either do I?
BTW if you are so alert on your titles, try to write my name correctly.

>OK, let's make one thing clear (again):  that I came to the conclusion
>that he shouldn't get a review copy was not because he would be likely to
>pass it on in multitudes, but because I think he is not a journalist whose
>opinion about UnixWare or Novell I would like to see in print.

I can see that you rather would prefer articles about the financial activities
of your firm than about the qualities of Unixware. :-)
But thanks for the waring. I will spread the word under my collegues
that disagreeing with Herr Doktor M. Sohnius s.s.t.t. on Internet will get
them in trouble when they want to write about Novell or Wordperfect.

>fair, isn't it?  He's got, after all, a point to prove, namely that UW "is
>a SMALL seller and likely will remain so".

There are some things we who are contributing to PCM do not do. One is
accepting bribes.  And the other is letting personal pique get in the
way of our professional opinion (for what it is worth). I would like
to think that your ethics are the same.  Again I feel quite vexed with
your opinion about the way I judge software I get for review.

>Well, it doesn't.  There should be no discussion here.  Hans believes
>that illegal copies in the long run help sales.  I happen to believe
>that he is right.  Thinking this, and arguing one's case is no offense
>in any sense.  Putting up other people's software for free downloading
>is very doubtful, and indeed then downloading and using it is clearly
>illegal.  So much for my layman's legal opinion.
>
>.. and just to be on the safe side, I finally include Hans' copy
>right notice, which applies to everything above:
>
>| -- 
>| Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
>| gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
>| oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
>| outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.
>| ---------------------------
>
>and my own .sig (ditto)
>
>                        +--------------------------------------------+
>Martin Sohnius          | "It doesn't matter whether the cat is      |
>Novell Labs Europe      |  black or white, as long as it catches     |
>Bracknell, England      |  mice."      - Deng Xiaoping               |
>+44-1344-724031         +--------------------------------------------+
>                        (I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)

If I translate your signature as "the goal justifies the means" I cannot
help but doubt your high-handed approach to ethics.

Martin (and everybody else on this thread): I do not want a quarrel with
you (except for the normal. light-hearted flamewars). But if you think
to attack me on my ethics or professionalism, you better count your
cojones first.

Paai.

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gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:03:17 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    Aaron G Goldstein <[email-masked]>
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> Excerpts from netnews.alt.games.doom: 10-Sep-94 Re: DOOM and Linux by
> Christopher Wiles@wsuaix 
> > That's four messages so far that report that pixel doubling is trashed.
> >  
> > Gee, even though the README says "no bug reports," does anyone think iD 
> > can be convinced to fix this?
> >  
> > -- Chris
> 
> I have a feeling that if there'd been an easy way to fix the problem, it
> wouldn't have been there (it even said that pixel-doubling didn't work
> right in the README.linux file).  Personally, I think the option should
> have been removed if it couldn't be implemented correctly, but perhaps
> that's just my opinion.  Besides, I'd rather see the DOOMWADDIR problem
> fixed before anything else.

The pixeldoubling and -tripling has been fixed.  Here is a script that
will solve the DOOMWADDIR problem (at least, sort of).  Install it as
/usr/local/bin/doom, and stick all the DOOM! files in /usr/local/lib/doom.

#!/bin/bash
#
# The Linux version of DOOM! doesn't seem to like it if the .wad files
# aren't in the current directory when playing.  Solve this problem in
# an extremely klugy fashion.
#
# This script makes DOOMWADDIR work as advertised, and also implements
# an environment variable DOOMSAVEDIR, where your DOOM! saved games appear.
#
# Symbolic links saves the day... 
#
# Written 1994-09-09 by H. Peter Anvin <[email-masked]>
#

allow_null_glob_expansion=Yes

DOOMSAVES="doomsav0.dsg doomsav1.dsg doomsav2.dsg \
doomsav3.dsg doomsav4.dsg doomsav5.dsg"

OLDDIR=`/bin/pwd`

mkdir /tmp/doom.$$
cd /tmp/doom.$$

if [ "$DOOMSAVEDIR" = "" ]; then
  DOOMSAVEDIR="$OLDDIR"
fi

for dsg in $DOOMSAVES; do
  ln -s $DOOMSAVEDIR//$dsg .
done

ln -s /usr/local/lib/doom/*.wad .

if [ "$DOOMWADDIR" = "" ]; then
  DOOMWADDIR="$OLDDIR"
fi

ln -sf $DOOMWADDIR//*.wad . 2>/dev/null

ln -s /usr/local/lib/doom/sndserver .

/usr/local/lib/doom/linuxxdoom "$@"

cd /tmp
rm -rf doom.$$

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Games Make the OS (was: Re: Can't Run Doom!!)
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 09:01:58 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pete Deuel) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Nicholas J. Leon) writes:

[...]

Please keep DOOM off comp.os.linux.development
.misc is the right place for it, until everyone is convinced it needs a
newsgroup of its own...

Rob
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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:07:15 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> Linux is DOS.   DOS stands only for "Disk Operating System".  Most all
> operating systems are DOSes.  It did not read MS-"DOS", which is a 
> different story all together.....
> 

No it doesn't.  DOS (as in MS-DOS) stands for Dirty Operating System.
If you don't believe me, I suggest you check out what the *original*
name of the product was.

        /hpa

P.S. You will *not* find the correct answer in any book from Microsoft
Press.

P.P.S. Answer below for the impatient.



The original name for the glorified boot loader now known as MS-DOS
was QDOS, which stood for Quick and Dirty Operating System.  Note that
the letter Q has since been dropped.
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From: [email-masked] (Miguel de Icaza)
Subject: Re: color from ncurses on console
Date: 13 Sep 1994 00:50:51 GMT

> Re: color from ncurses on console
> Is there some trick to this?
> 
> Do I need to hack up the console termcap entry, or is it something
> more sinister?

You can use something like this:

void init_colors ()
{
    hascolors = has_colors ();
    if (hascolors){
        start_color ();
        init_pair (1, COLOR_WHITE, COLOR_BLUE);   /* normal */
        init_pair (2, COLOR_BLACK, COLOR_CYAN);   /* selected */
        init_pair (3, COLOR_YELLOW, COLOR_BLUE);  /* marked */
        init_pair (4, COLOR_YELLOW, COLOR_CYAN);  /* marked/selected */
        init_pair (5, COLOR_WHITE, COLOR_RED);    /* errors */
        init_pair (6, COLOR_WHITE, COLOR_CYAN);   /* menu entry */
        init_pair (7, COLOR_BLACK, COLOR_WHITE);  /* reverse b&w */
    }
}

And then just use: wattron (window, COLOR_PAIR(n)).

Hope this helps,
Miguel.

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