Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #753
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 16:13:27 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #753, Volume #2                Tue, 13 Sep 94 16:13:27 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's (Patrick J. Volkerding)
  Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS??? (Saqib A Qureshi)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Howard "the Duck" Taylor)
  Linux Doom available via anon FTP for limited time (Dave Ahn)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (jeff simon)
  Re: Can't Run Doom!! (Saqib A Qureshi)
  Vendor for Linux***Spire Technologies (Spire Technologies)
  Re: term: cannot connect to socket (Patrick Reijnen)
  Re: Yggdrasil FTP site ([email-masked] (Adam J. Richter,[email-masked],Internet (m)))
  WANTED: info and experience with double. ([email-masked] ([email-masked],Internet (m)))
  Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom ([email-masked] ([email-masked],Internet (m)))
  Corrupt linxdoom.tgz on sunsite? (Paul Hatchman)
  Why more than one partition? (Sean Gilley)
  Ygg Fall Release Problems (Arthur Lin)
  Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Mark Stockton)
  Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's (Anders Hedborg)
  Use of (L)GPLed libraries (Peter Jones)
  Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Peter Jones)
  Re: Use of (L)GPLed libraries (Peter Jones)
  missing library routines (linux, gcc 2.5.8) (Thomas Telkamp)
  QUESTION: transferring files between file systems??? (George Shin)

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding)
Subject: Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's
Date: 13 Sep 1994 01:40:59 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Larry Doolittle <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Ahh!  Now for the real question:  Does this CD include all the
>relevant GPL'd source? and if not, what provisions is PC-PLUS
>making to distribute the source "on the same media"?  I could
>easily see FSF making a stink if the source were not available
>for the asking on CD-ROM at "cost" - which is pretty low for a
>CD-ROM in quantity.

If they've included the Slackware source tree, then yes, it does indeed 
have all of the GPL'd source.

Pat

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (Saqib A Qureshi)
Subject: Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS???
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:09:18 GMT

Preston William Gilchrist ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Howdy all,

: I was trying to get my favorite key settings from DOS to work with Linux Doom,
: so I just copied my defaults file from DOS to .doomrc in my home directory
: This did not work.  I am using these key settings........

: UP --> Home
: DN --> End
: TURN RT--> Page Up
: TURN LT--> Insert
: STRF RT--> Page Dn
: STRF LT--> Delete

: Does the X-Server redirect these keys in some way where it will not work??????

: Any help appreciated..........................

: Thanks , Please respond via e-mail

Hi!
        As requested by someone earlier please follow up to alt.games.doom
        thank you. Doom experts on said group will help you out as long as
        you don't mention Doom][ ;)

        I have no idea how to fix the keyboard problem...short of finding
        out where the presses go when you press them in Xwin and then
        map them. I'll let you know how it turns out.

                                -Saqib
        
--
                        Bad luck is when you win the lottery:
                and God decides it's a nice day to end the Universe.

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From: [email-masked] (Howard "the Duck" Taylor)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:58:59 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (S. Joel Katz) writes:
>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Richard Ward) writes:
>
>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tim Smith) writes:
>>>Bill C. Riemers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>  2. There is significant delay between action and sound.  i.e. I
>>>>     can fire my gun and then turn halfway around before the gun
>>>>     sound comes through my speakers.
>>>
>>>Get shorter speaker cables.
>>>
>>>--Tim Smith
>
>>I really hope that you are kidding.  I'd hate to think that our fine 
>>educational system is producing people so stupid as to think that reducing the 
>>length of cable between an amplifier and the speakers would have an observable 
>>effect.  Think about it:  sound travels through the air about 730 miles per 
>>hour at sea-level, electronic signals travel through wire at close to the 
>>speed of light (roughly 186,000 miles per _second_).  If you were to make 
>>_any_ adjustments to the speaker placement, you'd be better off putting on 
>>headphones (though the difference would still be virtually unobservable).
>
>       I really hope that you are kidding. I'd hate to think that our 
>fine educational system is producing people so stupid as the think that 
>electrons net velocity down a cable is anywhere close to the speed of 
>light. With all those electrons refusing to travel straight and bumping 
>into each other, you are lucky if you get 1/10 C.
>-- 
>
>S. Joel Katz            Information on Objectivism, Linux, 8031s, and more
>[email-masked]      is available at http://www.panix.com/stimpson/
>       Time flies like an arrow -- fruit flies like a banana.

check some materials and devices book....  you should expect .75*C in
most conductors...

-- 
=============================================================================
Howard Taylor <[email-masked]>
Dept of Electrical Engineering
University of Delaware

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From: [email-masked] (Dave Ahn)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Linux Doom available via anon FTP for limited time
Date: 13 Sep 1994 15:24:01 GMT

Hello,

I've had Linux Doom (the original and patched) available via anon
FTP for the last few days on a very temporary basis, but I've gotten
a few messages suggesting that I keep it available for a few more
days, since some people are having problems getting a copy from
sunsite.unc.edu.  I have no problem with that.

The following files are available at nightfall.stu.wfu.edu (152.17.202.100)

/pub/doom/linux/linxdoom.tgz      [latest version of Linux X Doom]
/pub/doom/linux/linxdoom.lsm      [original lsm, use this during install]
/pub/doom/linux/linxdoom.lsm.new  [a quick note from ddt Re: patch]
/pub/doom/linux/doom1wad.tgz      [shareware wad file]
/pub/doom/dos/dm1_2rpt.zip        [registered Dos Doom 1.1 -> 1.2 patch]
/pub/doom/dos/dm1666rp.zip        [registered Dos Doom 1.2 -> 1.666 patch]

All the files have been checked and contain no errors.  The anon FTP
service will disappear probably at the end of this week.  Please do not
upload any files to the incoming directory.

Dave.
--
Dave Ahn                            Internet: [email-masked], [email-masked]
#include <stdisclaimer.h>
 "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced.  Try to live your life
  so that when you die you will rejoice, and the world will cry."  -1/2 jj^2

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From: [email-masked] (jeff simon)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:24:56 GMT

Richard Ward ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tim Smith) writes:
: >Bill C. Riemers <[email-masked]> wrote:
: >>  2. There is significant delay between action and sound.  i.e. I
: >>     can fire my gun and then turn halfway around before the gun
: >>     sound comes through my speakers.
: >
: >Get shorter speaker cables.
: >
: >--Tim Smith

: I really hope that you are kidding.  I'd hate to think that our fine 
: educational system is producing people so stupid as to think that reducing the 
: length of cable between an amplifier and the speakers would have an observable 
: effect.  Think about it:  sound travels through the air about 730 miles per 
: hour at sea-level, electronic signals travel through wire at close to the 
: speed of light (roughly 186,000 miles per _second_).  If you were to make 
: _any_ adjustments to the speaker placement, you'd be better off putting on 
: headphones (though the difference would still be virtually unobservable).

: Richard

He was obviously kidding!  I'll bet your the only person (dumb-ass) that
didn't get it (and laugh).  BTW, what school did you go to (your soooooooo
smart)?

 -= Jeff =-

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From: [email-masked] (Saqib A Qureshi)
Subject: Re: Can't Run Doom!!
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:01:12 GMT

Nicholas J. Leon ([email-masked]) wrote:
: When I try to run Doom on my Linux box I get the following error
: after I choose which scenerio I want to play:

: U_GetNumForName: SSTMINUS not found

: and then proceeds to exit.

: Does anyone know what I can do about this?

Oh oh,
        I assume your wad is a 1.2 version that has been edited? You need
the orignal 1.2 wad unedited. This is a similar error that occurs when people
try to upgrade Doom.wad 1.2 after it has been edited..er..you did back up your
doom.wad before you edited it right? You'll have to re-install if you haven't.
        Hope this helps.

                        -Saqib
--
                        Bad luck is when you win the lottery:
                and God decides it's a nice day to end the Universe.

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From: [email-masked] (Spire Technologies)
Subject: Vendor for Linux***Spire Technologies
Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:18:30 -0700

Hello,

        This is a commercial post. This post is only meant to inform you 
of us. If you would like information on pricing, configuration or any 
other such matter considering Linux please email "[email-masked]". We 
are a full service vendor including warranty, customer service, and media.

                                        Joshua Drake
                                        Spire Technologies
                                        (503)222-3086

-- 
                Spire Technologies 1985 SW 6th Ave.
                Portland Or
                Phone (503)222-3086

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick Reijnen)
Subject: Re: term: cannot connect to socket
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 16:27:14 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Cyrill Vatomsky) writes:

>I grabbed this new package with term binaries and other software compiled 
>with term support, but something does not work right. When I try to start 
>term, I get a message "Failed to connect to 
>/usr/local/lib/term/private/socket. I am pretty vague about term 
>internals and how it works. What should I do? 

>It did work before, when I compiled term 204 from source, what gives?

Why not use that one again? All files in termnet-2.0.4-Linux-bin are build with the library of term 2.0.4 so you don't need to change the file of the term package.

Otherwise: check whether you have done the installation following the README 
file in the package or not and if you have made the changes to some files mentioned in that README.

Then check file permissions, ownerships (also of group) of all the files
including /usr/local/lib/term/private/socket.

I also have had this problem and it came out that file permissions were wrong.

>-- 

>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Cyrill Vatomsky         |      Home     :      1(408)479-1528          |
>                        |      Gets     :      1(408)464-0556          |
>                        |      Fax      :      1(408)464-0558          |
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>------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good luck,

Patrick Reijnen

--
************************* Patrick Reijnen *************************
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen * 
* Email:  patrickr@{sci,cs}.kun.nl                                *
* WWW:    http://{atlas,zeus}.cs.kun.nl:4080/homepage.html        *

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Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:41:16 GMT
From: Adam_J._Richter,adam-yggdrasil.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at (Adam J. Richter,[email-masked],Internet (m))
Reply-To: Adam_J._Richter,adam-yggdrasil.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil FTP site

In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>Is there a problem with the ftp site at Yggdrasil, I keep getting an unknown

>host from ftp.yggdrasil.com?

        ftp.yggdrasil.com == 192.216.244.52

-- 
Adam J. Richter                           Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
(408) 261-6630                            "Free Software For The Rest of Us."

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Date: 09 Sep 1994 03:03:16 GMT
From: jeb-aloha.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at ([email-masked],Internet (m))
Reply-To: jeb-aloha.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at
Subject: WANTED: info and experience with double.

I understand double is like Stacker, but for Linux. Is this true? Does
it work? What is the compression ratio? Opinions?

Thanks.

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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:03:37 GMT
From: marks-schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at ([email-masked],Internet (m))
Reply-To: marks-schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com,Internet_(m)@magnet.at
Subject: Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom

Matthew Grant ([email-masked]) wrote:
: The New NOISE has started.  We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
: XXX with Doom?".

: Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!

: -- 
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:  _/  _/  _/  _/   _/     _/   _/  _/  _/_/  _/  _/ 
[email-masked]      

You have my vote.  Or maybe they should start using alt.games.doom.
--
Mark Stockton
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Hatchman)
Subject: Corrupt linxdoom.tgz on sunsite?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:46:13 +1000

The linxdoom.tgz file on sunsite appears to be corrupt? As no one else here
seems to have reported any problems, I tried twice to download it, made sure
I had binary mode set etc.. but gzip still says it doesnt pass its crc.

The file is:
-rw-------  1 paul       171762 Sep 12 18:06 linxdoom.tgz

and gzip -t says:
gzip: linxdoom.tgz: invalid compressed data--crc error

Can anyone point me to an ftp site that has a good copy of doom?

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From: [email-masked] (Sean Gilley)
Subject: Why more than one partition?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:22:29 GMT

As I'm just about to install a couple of 300M disks, I've got a question
about partitioning.

My current system contains two IDE drives, one 100M and the other 60M.
I plan to keep the 60M for DOS, and use the 100M for my Linux root
partition.  I'll probably transfer /usr to one of the new drives, as
space on that drive is tight.

So I install these 300M drives.  I know I've been told that drives with
more than one partition run faster than drives with a single partition.
I got a guess or two, but can someone give me a definitive answer as to
why this is true, if it is true?

And other than that, is there a reason to partition the drives into
multiple partitions?

Thanks,

Sean.

---
Sean L. Gilley                           The Information Super Highway is
[email-masked]                    really just a rough gravel road with
614 860 9053 (h), 614 860 5743 (w)       wonderful roadsigns.

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From: [email-masked] (Arthur Lin)
Subject: Ygg Fall Release Problems
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:03:16 GMT

As I installed Linux with Plug-and-Play Linux 1994 Fall from Yggdrasill, I got the
following message :

        Unable to mount root. If you have an unsupported CDROM drive.
        Trying running RUNLINUX.BAT from the CDROM under DOS.
        ..........
        Kernel panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 1d:01

I have SCSI CDROM TOSHIBA 3401 on ADEPTEC 1420C and run Plug-and-Play Linux 1994 
Summer without any problem.

Please help me out.

Thanks in advance.

Arthur

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Stockton)
Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:59:26 GMT

Mark A. Davis ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Bill West) writes:

: >Steven Pritchard ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >: [email-masked] (Mark Stockton) writes:

: >: >Seems that when exiting the Linux version, you are prompted to
: >: >"...quit to DOS?".  What a blood curdling thought!  Isn't it time
: >: >we put a rating system in place for these shareware games?

: >It could have been worse, you could have actually exited to MSDOG!!!!

: Linux is DOS.   DOS stands only for "Disk Operating System".  Most all
: operating systems are DOSes.  It did not read MS-"DOS", which is a 
: different story all together.....

Gee!  All this time I thought it was the number two.  What should I do
with all my DOS dollar bills?

--
Mark "Every man has a different convention" Stockton
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Anders Hedborg)
Subject: Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's
Date: 13 Sep 1994 19:19:00 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Lasermoon Info Desk) writes:
                     Linux Recognition by Major Magazine

   PC-PLUS, is the first of UK's leading PC magazines to give Linux the
   recognition it deserves and is not only devoting editorial space but, in
   conjunction with Lasermoon Ltd, is also :

     +++ including a copy of Slackware 2.0 on the Front-Cover CD-ROM +++
[...snip...]

When is it supposed to be on the shelves? And what issue should I
ask for?

Anders.

--

Anders Hedborg          e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Jones)
Subject: Use of (L)GPLed libraries
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:28:45 +0000

We are planning to release a piece of commercial software for both
System V Release 4.2 and Linux.

On Linux, the program will be compiled with GCC and linked with the
stanard shared libc.

I have been following the debate about what the GPL does and does not
cover.  I have read (again) the GPL and the LGPL.

I have hexdumped the binaries we are planning to sell.

As far as I can tell, there is no reason for our software to infringe
the GPL/LPGL.  They include no code from static libraries.  Macros and
other header features are all under the 10-line limit (to the best of
my research).

Can anyone think of anything else that might prevent us from shipping
a Linux version of this software, from a licencing viewpoint?

-- Peter

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Jones)
Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 12:01:38 +0000

Jim Goddard ([email-masked]) wrote:
[snip snip]
> Have to disagree with you on these two Ian.  If the code does not
[snip snip snip]
> Jim

This, I think, must be a difference between the US and UK Copyright
law.  My understanding is that Ian is correct for the UK: copyright is
implicit on any work.  Of course, I stand to be corrected.  And European
copyright law is a whole other kettle of fish...

-- Peter

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Jones)
Subject: Re: Use of (L)GPLed libraries
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:28:48 +0000

On 13 Sep 1994 13:41:00 +0100, I wrote:
> On Linux, the program will be compiled with GCC and linked with the
> stanard shared libc.
Oh, and a few support programs use ncurses... But that appears to clearly
state that we can distribute it if we don't charge for it.  (Of course,
we are only charging for our code!)  I assume that covers the statically
linked object files...

-- Peter

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Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help
From: [email-masked] (Thomas Telkamp)
Subject: missing library routines (linux, gcc 2.5.8)
Date: 13 Sep 94 18:40:46 GMT

I'm trying to compile a program which uses the remainder(), the nextafter()
and the ilogb() library routines. These routines are not present on the
system I'm using (linux, gcc 2.5.8).

Is it possible to install another libm.a which includes these routines?

Any help is appreciated.

Thomas Telkamp <[email-masked]>

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From: [email-masked] (George Shin)
Subject: QUESTION: transferring files between file systems???
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 05:48:19 GMT

Hello everyone,

What would be the most efficient way to transfer files from a single file
system in drive X to multiple file system in drive Y???

More specifically I have:

/dev/hdb2 whose mount point is at a / (root) (i know... dumb...)

and I would like to transfer entire file system to a different drive (SCSI)
which has multiple filesystems (finally...), /dev/sda2, /dev/sda5 to 
/dev/sda14 with various mount points. /dev/sda2 will be mounted at root with
boot Linux kernel, vmlinuz.

I would like to AVOID re-installing the Linux software if i can.  I DO have
a complete backup of /dev/hdb2 filesystem on a tape (4mm) and I should be
able to simply restore (via tar...) to SCSI unit.

If I can just do these transfers, I can tell LILO to boot from /dev/sda2 
rather than /dev/hdb2.....

Oh well, thanks everyone in advance... 

- george

PS Is there something i can do with /etc/fstab, i.e. first copy just the
   necessary files manually to root in /dev/sda2 and unmount /dev/hdb2
   then re-mount from new SCSI file systems.  Would using tar now sort
   of fool Linux in restoring to SCSI drive since /dev/hdb2 has been
   unmounted??? Hmmmm...

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