Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #754
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 23:13:28 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #754, Volume #2                Tue, 13 Sep 94 23:13:28 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Sounddriver for Spea Media FX ? (Hannu Savolainen)
  Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Ken Latta)
  Re: Yggdrasil FTP site (Bill Zettler)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Rob Janssen)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Rob Janssen)
  Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive! (Robert W. Brewer)
  Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem (Vassili Leonov)
  f2c libf2c.a missing (Uli Uphoff)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Cornelius Krasel)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS??? (Jeff Epler)
  iBCS and WP51 ([email-masked])
  term: cannot connect to socket (Cyrill Vatomsky)
  OpenGL (Jared Jacobs)
  SLIP/DIP dialback query (Chris Peckham)
  Re: DOOM and Linux (Ped Xing)
  Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Jim Harkins)
  Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS??? (Steve VanDevender)
  Re: Q: Reading from a ext2fs partition from DOS? (Steve DuChene)
  AHA1542 Problems (Stephan Duhl)
  Sounddriver for Spea Media FX ? (Stephan Duhl)
  Re: The snatchability factor (WordPerfect) (Richard J. Wyble)
  Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive! (Rene Baart)
  configuration compatibility (Florence Pagani)

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From: [email-masked] (Hannu Savolainen)
Subject: Re: Sounddriver for Spea Media FX ?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:09:49 GMT

[email-masked] (Stephan Duhl) writes:

>-- 
>Hi all,

>i have a Soundcard Spea media FX.
>Is there a sounddriver for this card under Linux (i haven't found one).
>Has someone install that card under Linux ?
The driver for Spea Media FX and other Ensoniq SoundScape based cards is
under construction.  Some kind of (ALPHA) driver should be available
within a month or two. Announcements will be sent to the SOUND channel.
To join send a message to [email-masked]. Include
just a line containing "X-Mn-Admin: join SOUND" to the message.

Hannu
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Hannu Savolainen
[email-masked]
"Don't use Windows since there is a door!"

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From: Ken Latta <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: biz.config
Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 12:51:18 PDT

In article <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]> writes:
> Spire Technologies ([email-masked]) wrote:
> : In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Alan Cox) 
writes:
> 
> : >In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Steve 
Wicke) writes:
> : >>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux 
is 
> : >>that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for 
> : >>professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is 
> : >>commercial and people on the net (including myself) have a tendacy to 
be 
> : >>a little snide towards commercial posts in non commercial areas. I 
would 
> 
> : >Well I'd certain back the idea.
> 
> : >Alan
> :  
> :  Thanks....
> 
> I agree that biz.comp.linux is a good Idea.
> -- 
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I think there is a good chance that I might wish to use such a channel 
myself sometime in the future. I suspect there are quite a few others 
entertaining similar thoughts.

Count me in!
__________________________________________________________________________
Ken Latta
[email-masked]
UNIX Systems Consultant

I do not and cannot speak for Syntex or Roche or the firm that pretends to 
be my employer.
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From: [email-masked] (Bill Zettler)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil FTP site
Date: 13 Sep 1994 00:08:37 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman) writes:
|> In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
|> >
|> >Is there a problem with the ftp site at Yggdrasil, I keep getting an unknown 
|> >host from ftp.yggdrasil.com?
|> 
|> Interesting, so do I.  Thats the site they list in their Fall94 release 
|> docs.  Maybe their name server has forgotten them (that used to happen to 
|> us at work on occasion.)
|> 
|> 
My Sum94 release has it hard coded into /etc/hosts as 192.216.244.52 which
is also the same as the primary yggdrasil.com.

Anonymous ftp works fine.

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:31:33 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (S. Joel Katz) writes:

>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Richard Ward) writes:

>>I really hope that you are kidding.  I'd hate to think that our fine 
>>educational system is producing people so stupid as to think that reducing the 
>>length of cable between an amplifier and the speakers would have an observable 
>>effect.  Think about it:  sound travels through the air about 730 miles per 
>>hour at sea-level, electronic signals travel through wire at close to the 
>>speed of light (roughly 186,000 miles per _second_).  If you were to make 
>>_any_ adjustments to the speaker placement, you'd be better off putting on 
>>headphones (though the difference would still be virtually unobservable).

>       I really hope that you are kidding. I'd hate to think that our 
>fine educational system is producing people so stupid as the think that 
>electrons net velocity down a cable is anywhere close to the speed of 
>light. With all those electrons refusing to travel straight and bumping 
>into each other, you are lucky if you get 1/10 C.

Actually, it is much, much less than that!

Rob
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:35:57 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tim Smith) writes:

>David Nagy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>  Jeez, everybody should get a clue...  All this doubletalk about 
>>electron drift when it's OBVIOUS that the problem is that his speakers 
>>are too far away from his head... The speed of sound, remember?  And you 
>>guys are worried about the speed of electrons, sheesh. <g>

>Another solution is for him to get a longer video cable.  But then he'll
>need shorter arms, unless he can play with his tongue...

No, no, no...  just coil it on the floor.

But you should be careful not to use a long keyboard cable!  I have seen
keyboard cables in use on some systems that are incredibly long...  You
can imagine the problems *that* will give!

Rob
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From: [email-masked] (Robert W. Brewer)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive!
Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:24:35 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

LinuxXDoom ran rather slowly on my machine also until I turned off
the sound.  Now it flies quite well.  I don't have a sound card.

-Rob
--
Robert W. Brewer 
[email-masked] 

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From: [email-masked] (Vassili Leonov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem
Date: 13 Sep 1994 20:29:07 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:

:I'm running Linux 1.1.49 and attempting to configure it as a router between my 
:local Ethernet and my Internet provider. I've posted on this before but maybe I 
if you just have an ethernet network and one box on it is connected
 to an Internet provider (you used some bad language like M#%&@$@ft there - 
 so I'm not quite sure)
then you need two things to do it proper:
- make sure your kernel on SLIP/PPP machine is configured as ROUTING
  packets (make config)
- make sure that other machines have 

route add default gw your_slip_hostname metric 1

somewhere in their rc.inet1

Sooo.... It's basic networking - why blame Linux on that... Read some
good books on that though.... Has nothing to do with Linux development...

Vassili.

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From: [email-masked] (Uli Uphoff)
Subject: f2c libf2c.a missing
Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:40:25 GMT

Hi,

yesterday I tried to compile one of my FORTRAN programs with the
f2c translator using the -g option, but the f77 script which is 
from the Slackware 2.0 package f2c.tgz complains about a missing
libf2c.a .

The f2c.tgz package contains only a shared library and libf2c.sa.

I tried to find the sources for this particular f2c version, but
I did not find any sources for libf2c.a

Any hints ?

Greetings Uli

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From: [email-masked] (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:40:40 GMT

Mr. Paul David Walker ([email-masked]) wrote:
: And you must not also overlook the thick-skull factor.  It is a fact that sound
: travels slower through thick skulls than through air (duhhh...huh?)

That's untrue. In fact, sound travels faster through denser material.

Just my $0.02,

--Cornelius.

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From: [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:24:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Terry Lambert) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Harrison Picot) writes:
>] In article <[email-masked]>, J.J. Paijmans <[email-masked]> wrote:
>] >And it is so bloody stupid... Linux offers a new way to boost
>] >WP-sales, which is a BIG seller, and all they can do is wave with
>] 
>] If WP is going to give away software, why not give it to those of
>] us that paid for the development?  Like me, I have bought it, DOS
...
>
>The assumption that J.J. is making is that geeks use Linux and geeks
>have input on what software a company buys.
>
>This is somewhat farcical, in its assumptions:
>

Terry, You probably have your quotes confused. As I am a very
satisfied Linux-user myself, I can't call other Linux-users
'geeks' can I? Check the indents, please.

Paai. (J.J.).

-- 
Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Epler)
Subject: Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS???
Date: 13 Sep 1994 15:24:21 GMT

[email-masked] (Steve VanDevender) writes:

>You can't just copy your DOS Doom default.cfg to your Linux
>.doomrc.  There are different options in the Linux .doomrc and
>the keycodes are completely different.

>At least for ASCII-character keys, you can just put the ASCII
>code for the character generated by the key as the code for the
>key in your .doomrc.  I haven't figured out how the
>shift/control/function keycodes work yet.

If anyone figures out the codes for (numpad) end and pgdn, let me
know.

I am very adjusted to using those keys to strafe, and can't seem to
play any other way.

BTW The unregistered WAD runs great in 320x200, but pixel doubling
makes it crawl.  I'm learning to squint.  8 meg 386-40, isa graphics,
128k cache.

Jeff
--
____ "And if I smile please tell me some bad news
\BI/  before I laugh and act like a fool"
 \/            -The Who "Behind Blue Eyes"
IRC: Synger    Running Linux 1.1 -- Free Unix for 386+ machines

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From: [email-masked] ([email-masked])
Subject: iBCS and WP51
Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:30:03 -0000

What preview modes are supported?  Does VGA work?
Also, does WP50 work...I suspect so, but think that I need to work
harder with keymaps.

Thanks to a lot of people for a real good system.

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From: [email-masked] (Cyrill Vatomsky)
Subject: term: cannot connect to socket
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:49:07 GMT

I grabbed this new package with term binaries and other software compiled 
with term support, but something does not work right. When I try to start 
term, I get a message "Failed to connect to 
/usr/local/lib/term/private/socket. I am pretty vague about term 
internals and how it works. What should I do? 

It did work before, when I compiled term 204 from source, what gives?
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From: [email-masked] (Jared Jacobs)
Subject: OpenGL
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 13:31:18 GMT

Does anyone out there know of an OpenGL port to Linux? I'd be willing to test
an alpha or beta version  if the authors want feedback.

Please let me know,

Thanks, Jared

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Peckham)
Subject: SLIP/DIP dialback query
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 20:47:43 GMT

I have dip running on a linux system.   I would like to use SLIP over
a modem configured for dialback.   Here is what I would like to see:

        local  - start dip up and make the call
        remote - ring ring; answers and asks for username, password, and
                 access code; then hangs up
        local  - wait for the call
        remote - call me back and prompt for username and password
        local  - pick up the phone and give appropriate username and password
        remote - respond with terminal server prompt
        local  - select slip and away we go !

Here is what is happening:      

        local  - start dip up and make the call
        remote - ring ring; answers and asks for username, password, and
                 access code; then hangs up
        local  - EXIT DIP WITH ERROR
        remote - call me back

Does anyone have a sample dip configuration file that will do what I want ?

-- 
Chris Peckham  < [email-masked] > | There are moments when everything
New Jersey Institute of Technology    | turns out right.  Don't let them
Computing Services, Sr. Systems Prgmr | alarm you; they pass.
201.596.8176                  ABD/ECE |                 -- Jules Renard

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From: [email-masked] (Ped Xing)
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
Date: 13 Sep 94 16:52:27 GMT

>Are you sure?  I construed that line to mean that Linux took a 
>performance hit, rather than meaning the modes didn't work at all.
>
>If they didn't work, and he knew it, why'd he leave them in?  Why mention 
>them in the README?
>
>Logic indicates ...
>
>-- Chris
>
     Once again, a new version has been posted to sunsite which
fixes the problem.  So problem is moot anyway.  (Fixes it for -2 and
-3 anyway).  In anycase it's pretty silly to run the doubling or
tripling modes because this really mauls performance.  It's so much
easier to use the cntrl-alt-+ hot key to switch it (the X server)to
a more appropriate video mode.  People have been posting Xconfig info
for various low rez modes.  

   Has anyone got music going?  I'm running it on my 1.1.33 kernel
on a 486/66 with 16M ram.  I've got the 2.9 sound driver and a pro
audio spectrum 16.  Otherwise everything works great...smooth motion
and good effects sound.  But no music.  I don't know whether it's 
supposed to work or not.

Later...

pat
-- 

Patrick Plummer              email: [email-masked] (UC, San Diego)
                                    [email-masked]
"UNIX is the answer... as long as you phrase the question very 

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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: [email-masked] (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:54:50 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Richard Ward <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Let's not forget that large headed people will hear a definite lag due to the 
>extra length of their auditory system.  You wouldn't believe how long it can 
>take sound to get through the ears of extremely large headed people!

We also must remember the speed of sound through fat is greatly reduced.
You wouldn't believe how long it can take sound to get through the ears
of extremely fat headed people!  Takes some people years to make the
link to libclue.a!  Truly amazing.

jim

-- 
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather.  Not screaming
in terror like his passengers."

Jim Harkins                          [email-masked] 
San Diego, CA.

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From: [email-masked] (Steve VanDevender)
Subject: Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS???
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 08:16:49 GMT

You can't just copy your DOS Doom default.cfg to your Linux
.doomrc.  There are different options in the Linux .doomrc and
the keycodes are completely different.

At least for ASCII-character keys, you can just put the ASCII
code for the character generated by the key as the code for the
key in your .doomrc.  I haven't figured out how the
shift/control/function keycodes work yet.

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From: [email-masked] (Steve DuChene)
Subject: Re: Q: Reading from a ext2fs partition from DOS?
Date: 13 Sep 1994 09:09:29 GMT

Won Hong ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi, sorry if this is a stupid question, didn't really do any searching
: for this yet, but I haven't seen anything on c.o.l.announce.

: Just wondering if there is a DOS program you can use to be able to
: read the Linux ext2fs partitions, guess it would be something like
: the mscdex thing to read iso9660 format.  It would just be nice to
: be able to access things on all my drives in either operating system.

: Thanks in advance.

: Jesse Hong.
: [email-masked]

        Everytime I see this come up I wonder what someone is thinking
        when they say they want to do this? DOS does not have any means
        of restricting access to the filesystem (oh, like /etc/passwd!)
        to prevent someone with a DOS program like this from accessing my
        system files as root! I really don't think this is a real swift
        idea here.
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From: [email-masked] (Stephan Duhl)
Subject: AHA1542 Problems
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:27:12 GMT

-- 
Hi all,

i have a adaptec 1542 CF at adress 0x330. Now i have get a soundcard
(spea media fx), which want that adress too. Any attempt to change the
adress of aha 1542 to 0x2XX or 0x1XX doesn't work. DOS runs as normal, but
linux doesn't boot any more!
(Many game under DOS assume that at 0x330 is a Wave-Table-Adr! )

has someone a solution ??

so long Stephan.
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Stephan Duhl                           email: [email-masked]
                                           University of Kaiserslautern

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From: [email-masked] (Stephan Duhl)
Subject: Sounddriver for Spea Media FX ?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:31:20 GMT

-- 
Hi all,

i have a Soundcard Spea media FX.
Is there a sounddriver for this card under Linux (i haven't found one).
Has someone install that card under Linux ?

so long Stephan.
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Stephan Duhl                           email: [email-masked]
                                           University of Kaiserslautern

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: [email-masked] (Richard J. Wyble)
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (WordPerfect)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:49:15 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Eckehard Stolz) writes:
>
>- I would love to see WP for Linux at a reasonable price

"Reasonable" is a relative term which everyone must interpret for their
situation.

We purchased WordPerfect (SCO Unix version5.1) from WordPerfect for $99 U.S.
dollars earlier this year. This is a single-user license and the price is
based upon already owning version 5.1 for other platforms. This appears a
most reasonable price.
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  [email-masked]                   Worcester MA 01601

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From: [email-masked] (Rene Baart)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive!
Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:16:58 GMT

Corey Brenner ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Jim Sun ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
: : >[email-masked] (Rene Baart) writes:
: : >>I just ran DOOM on my 386/40 with a cheap (ISA) Cirrus VGA card.
: : >>I expected horrible performance, but it's only
: : >>a little bit jumpy, like a DOS game over a slow modem line.

: : I hope Rene (the first poster) meant a tongue-in-cheek joke.  I can't imagine
: : what 386-40 running linuxxdoom is like.  My current 486-25/75 with 16Mhz ISA 
: : (Stealth24) runs the dos version of doom about three times as fast my
: : old 386-40 using the same card (on 10MHz ISA).  Running linuxxdoom with the
: : 486-75, I can get smooth motion only at third smallest (yeah, now we are counting
: : from innermost out, instead of from full-screen and inward) screen setting;

Just to clarify: I did not joke about the performance on my 386. It seems
that there are quite some differences in performance between systems that
should be comparable at first sight. Maybe this has got to do with the 
amount of support that XFree has for a particular chipset? Anyway, LinuxDOOM
is fast becoming a very popular benchmark now ... ;-)

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Amstelveen, The Netherlands             | [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Florence Pagani)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: configuration compatibility
Date: 13 Sep 1994 09:03:02 GMT

Hi all,

        I posted last week an article dealing with laptop and notebook
compatibilities with LINUX. Thanks to all persons who gave me a response.

        Now, I would like to buy a precise system. (I give the configuration below). It is a notebook. I would like to make sure it 
will be compatible with LINUX. Have you got an idea about it ??? Any
suggestion is welcome.

        ---------------------------------------------
        CPU             : Intel 486 DX2 50      (OK)
        FPU             : Integre
        Architecture BUS: ISA
        RAM             : 8 Mb
        Motherboard     : Compal                (???)
        BIOS            : Evergreen             (???)
        Controllers     : Winbound W8376        (???)
        (floppy,hard disk)
        Harddrive       : IDE Seagate (405 Mb)  (???)
        Video cards     : Chips Technology VGA  (???)
        Monitor         : ecran LCD, STN 
                          (Max 1024 * 768)
        ----------------------------------------------

Can I buy it without problem ? 

        Thanks in advance,

                        Florence.

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