Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #755
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 05:13:14 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #755, Volume #2                Wed, 14 Sep 94 05:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  CorelDRAW for Unix (philip m. thompson)
  Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's (Peter Jones)
  Re: Corrupt linxdoom.tgz on sunsite? (Mario Rosario)
  Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS??? (Mike Treadwell)
  best PCMCIA ethernet? (Jim Greer)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (Terry Lambert)
  Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Linux Slip Server (Steve Larsen)
  Re: best PCMCIA ethernet? (Jasper Wong)
  OS/2 fan wants to try Linux.. What do I need ?? (Jim Chisholm)
  PCI Ethernet Cards (Steven Carter)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Ian Jackson)
  Searching infos on ReadyLink ENET16/U Rev. C Card ([email-masked])
  Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem (Gregory Trubetskoy)

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From: [email-masked] (philip m. thompson)
Subject: CorelDRAW for Unix
Date: 13 Sep 1994 22:33:11 GMT

CorelDRAW runs on Sun, SCO, AIX, etc... Has anybody had any luck running
it on Linux? It's my main DOS application, so if there's a reasonable
chance of success, I'd like to use it at home on my Linux box.

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Jones)
Subject: Re: Linux, 40,000 Cover CD's
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:41:19 +0000

On 13 Sep 1994 01:18:28 GMT, randy hyde ([email-masked]) wrote (in article <[email-masked]>):
> Since when did FSF start demanding that distributors give this
> stuff away at cost?  I was under the impression that they could
Err... This is the basis of the GPL.  You *MUST* have free access to the
source code.

[SIGH]

-- Peter

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From: [email-masked] (Mario Rosario)
Subject: Re: Corrupt linxdoom.tgz on sunsite?
Date: 13 Sep 94 21:02:05 GMT

Paul Hatchman ([email-masked]) wrote:
: The linxdoom.tgz file on sunsite appears to be corrupt? As no one else here
: seems to have reported any problems, I tried twice to download it, made sure
: I had binary mode set etc.. but gzip still says it doesnt pass its crc.

: The file is:
: -rw-------  1 paul       171762 Sep 12 18:06 linxdoom.tgz

: and gzip -t says:
: gzip: linxdoom.tgz: invalid compressed data--crc error

: Can anyone point me to an ftp site that has a good copy of doom?

It appears to be fixed now.

mario

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: Paul Hatchman,                        |  <this line intentionally left blank>
: Analyst/Programmer,                   |      [email-masked]
: Sydney Futures Exchange, Australia    |      Tel: +61 2 2560567
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From: [email-masked] (Mike Treadwell)
Subject: Re: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS???
Date: 13 Sep 1994 15:36:11 GMT

Preston William Gilchrist ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I was trying to get my favorite key settings from DOS to work with Linux Doom,
: so I just copied my defaults file from DOS to .doomrc in my home directory
: This did not work.  I am using these key settings........

: UP --> Home
: DN --> End
: TURN RT--> Page Up
: TURN LT--> Insert
: STRF RT--> Page Dn
: STRF LT--> Delete

Refer to the text file that came with Doom. The keys are hardcoded to the
default arrangement.

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
From: [email-masked] (Jim Greer)
Subject: best PCMCIA ethernet?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:17:30 GMT

I am about to buy a PCMCIA ethernet card (I need 10BT although one
that would work with other wires would be great.) Are any of the cards
with Linux drivers superior, or should I just go with the best price?
I am not very knowledgeable about networking in general, or ethernet,
or PC hardware, so feel free to clue me in as bluntly as you like.

Thanks!
-- 
"Because it was there...                         [email-masked]
 I don't think I even had to be on stuff.        Computer Science, Class of '95
 I just like to smear things. Smearing is nice. 
 Smearing is good." - Iggy Pop on why he put peanut butter on his chest onstage

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From: [email-masked] (Terry Lambert)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: 14 Sep 1994 03:24:15 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans) writes:
] Terry, You probably have your quotes confused. As I am a very
] satisfied Linux-user myself, I can't call other Linux-users
] 'geeks' can I? Check the indents, please.

Oops.  I guess I was refuting you instead of defending you. 8^).

                                        Terry Lambert
                                        [email-masked]
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

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Crossposted-To: biz.config
From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 02:59:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Spire Technologies) writes:
>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Alan Cox) writes:
>
>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Steve Wicke) writes:
>>>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux is 
>>>that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for 
>>>professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is 
>>>commercial and people on the net (including myself) have a tendacy to be 
>>>a little snide towards commercial posts in non commercial areas. I would 
>
>>Well I'd certain back the idea.
>
>>Alan
> 
> Thanks....
>       It is nice to seee that more pepople are realizing the need for 
>it. I am hoping that with more support from people like you :) We can get 
>this underway.
>
>                                               Joshua Drake
>                                               Spire Technologies
>
>>-- 
>>  ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
>> // Alan Cox  //  [email-masked]   //  GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU  //
>> ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''
>-- 
>               Spire Technologies 1985 SW 6th Ave.
>               Portland Or
>               Phone (503)222-3086
>       

If i didn't say so already, I think its aa good idea, too.  A particular
example is this 'I can't get Yygdrasil F94 to boot on my sony cd' problem.
I've been tellign the same story over and over, 'cause it disappears in
the flood of mail.  If there was a place were people could ask yygdrasil
questions, and read their posts, it might alleviate some of this. 

jeff Kesselman - just a consumer, not an employee

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Date: 14 Sep 94 04:05:51 GMT
From: [email-masked] (Steve Larsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux Slip Server

[email-masked] (Ralph Sims) writes:

>[email-masked] (David Garrard) writes:

>>Iam currently trying to set up my Linux box as a slip server and I have
>>come across a problem that has me stumped. I have created an account with
>>a shell /usr/bin/dip -i and I have put it in /etc/shells. Every time I log in 
>>with this account the computer tells me tha /usr/bin/dip -i does not exist and
>>logs me out. However the program is there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>I don't think you can pass a parameter (-i) to the shell field in the
>password file.  Put the thing in a script and use the script for the
>shell (although the chance might exist that the person invoking the
>script could break out of it and have access to the O/S).

  int main()
    {
 execlp("dip", "dip", "-i", (char *) 0);
    }
Compile this as dip-i.c or whatever,doesn't matter. Work's like a charm,
and it's straight outta the faq I got with the prog.

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From: [email-masked] (Jasper Wong)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
Subject: Re: best PCMCIA ethernet?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 06:57:10 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jim Greer <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I am about to buy a PCMCIA ethernet card (I need 10BT although one
>that would work with other wires would be great.) Are any of the cards
>with Linux drivers superior, or should I just go with the best price?
>I am not very knowledgeable about networking in general, or ethernet,
>or PC hardware, so feel free to clue me in as bluntly as you like.
>
>Thanks!
>-- 
>"Because it was there...                         [email-masked]
> I don't think I even had to be on stuff.        Computer Science, Class of '95
> I just like to smear things. Smearing is nice. 
> Smearing is good." - Iggy Pop on why he put peanut butter on his chest onstage

I just went through the whole process of setting up my linux station
with a PCMCIA ethernet card, so I guess I can share some of my
experience.  For PCMCIA service, you'll need at least version 1.1.49
of the kernel (found in ftp.funet.fi) as well as two files from 
stanford.edu (can't recall the exact name of the FTP site).  You'll need
the file module.tgz (?) and pcm-2.2.2.tar.tgz (?), module.tgz gives
you an updated version of 'insmod' and pcm-2.2.2.tar.tgz is the actual
PCMCIA service driver (the author did a great job).  I have the
3Com589 Combo card and it has been running perfectly once I set it up
right.  BTW, don't buy Xirom cards since they are supported by the
driver.....

Jasper

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Chisholm)
Subject: OS/2 fan wants to try Linux.. What do I need ??
Date: 13 Sep 1994 13:49:22 -0300

Hi folks..
I'm a long time advocate of OS/2 and I am curious about Linux..

1)will it run on a386DX40 8M ?
2)how much HD is required ?
3)does it require it's own partition or can it live alongside DOS and OS/2 in 
the same partition ?
4)can it be booted from DOS or does it require it's own boot manager ?
5)what are the files required to get me up and running ?
6)where can I get these ?
7)no flames please about not having read the FAQs, I don't know which farqing 
faqs to read !!

Thanks to anyone who can help, I look forward to trying Linux !!

Cheers,

Jim Chisholm
Dalhousie University, Dept. Physics
Halifax, N.S. CANADA B3H 3J5
Internet [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Steven Carter)
Subject: PCI Ethernet Cards
Date: 14 Sep 1994 04:05:58 GMT

Is the Boca PCI ethernet card fully supported under Linux?  Is anyone
using one?  Does it seem to have and better throughput than a 16-bit
ISA ethernet card?  What is the fastest and most robust PCI ethernet
card supported by Linux? 

Thanks.

-- 
---
  Steven M. Carter
  [email-masked]
  Golden Triangle Linux Users Group

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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 13 Sep 1994 04:03:26 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:45:20 GMT

[email-masked] (Eckehard Stolz) writes:

>Just to add my point of view (as a very satisfied WPWin-user) to this threat:

>I would love to see WP for Linux at a reasonable price

It already is.  Although even lower couldn't hurt!

>Since most of the Linux-boxes are stand-alone PC's, a non-network version would
>be sufficient.

WordPerfect for Unix does not require networking.

>In todays world, not only sales are important but also the percentage of the
>market (sp ?). It should be in Novells/WordPerfects intention to spread as much
>versions of WP in the market as possible (I mean selling at reasonable price -
> not giving away for free ). One big advantage of WP visa MS-Word is IMHO the 
> availability of WP on different platforms. 

Exactly

>My conclusion:

>Novell should make a Linux-only, no-network version of WP available

The SCO version of WordPerfect for Unix runs just fine under Linux.  They
are ****NOT**** going to make a native version for Linux.  We should work
to get WordPerfect/Novell to SUPPORT running the SCO version under Linux
(Which they currently do not).

> at a price
>comparable to a DOS/Windows version (including students discounts).

The suggested retail price of all versions of WordPerfect are the same.
The Unix version can be had for under $299.  Upgrades or crossgrades are
even less expensive than that.  Government/educational prices are lower
also (check DIT/GSA/etc).

> The Linux
>community could profit by getting more acceptance for Linux because of a native
>port of WP.

Why does it have to be native??  Keep in mind that it is utterly futile to
expect a native version of WP for Linux.... I T   W I L L   N O T   H A P P E N

-- 
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  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    [email-masked]       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 00:59:47 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Theodore Ts'o <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[Further discussion on this topic is directed to gnu.misc.discuss
>and/or comp.os.linux.misc. These two messages have been posted to
>c.o.l.announce to make the Linux community as a whole aware of 
>some issues surrounding the GPL; please see discussions elsewhere
>if you wish to fight it out. --mdw]

I AM ABSOLUTELY LIVID.  FURIOUS DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO DESCRIBE IT.

Firstly, because Ted Ts'o has joined in with the ignorant flamers.  He
himself has stooped to spreading the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt that
he claims he finds so harmful.

There was nothing inaccurate about my posting, and nothing that needed
correcting.  The posting went through several drafts on a mailing list
with several hundred people, with _no_ objections.

Secondly, because the moderator of comp.os.linux.announce, Matt Welsh,
posted this so-called "correction" WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ME.  I
find this particularly galling considering the fact that Matt is a
*member* of the mailing list I mention above.

Unfortunately I am going away on holiday for a week, so I will not be
able to battle this out.

However, I am EXTREMELY ANGRY that Theodore Ts'o has turned a message
that would have accurately and honestly reassured those who have been
confused by the FUD surrounding this topic into an opportunity for him
to score points of the FSF and RMS, and that Matt Welsh, whom I would
have expected to know better, allowed him to do so.

This has greatly damaged the cause of free software, and will no doubt
make the lives of all the developers and users of Linux much more
difficult as they wrestle with the problems caused by missing,
unclear, home-built or otherwise unhelpful copyright notices.

>Now, a number of law professors have stated that the FSF would be
>"laughed out of court" if they ever tried to sue someone over this.  But
>it is still true that the FSF's interpretation has caused a lot of Fear,
>Uncertainty, and Doubt.

Which YOU are helping to spread.

-- 
Ian Jackson, at home.         [email-masked] or [email-masked]
+44 1223 575512    Escoerea on IRC.   http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England.   Urgent: [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,convoy.hardware,local.pinboard,paderborn.pinboard,zer.z-netz.fundgrube.suche.elektronik
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Searching infos on ReadyLink ENET16/U Rev. C Card
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 13:20:00 +0200

Frank Westheider         Linux Support Group Paderborn
[email-masked]     [email-masked]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HI Folks !

I'm looking for infos on the ReadLINK ENET16/U Rev. C Ethernet-Card.
This card can be jumpered for WD80x3 and NEx000 mode and has a lot of
jumpers on board :

  J10   Eprom-Addr            A18-A13
  J9    I/O ADDR              A8-A5
  J11   NE1/NE2
        CPX/WDP
        32K/8K
        WD/NE
  J5    SEL
  J4    <unknown>
  J12   0WD-DLY
  J8    PROM
  J15   EPROM CONFIG
                16K
                16/32K
                32/64K
                64K
  J14   EPROM SIZE
                E16K
                E32K
                E64K
  J6A   Upper IRQ's  (15,11,10)
  J6B   Lower IRQ's  (2,3,4,5,7)

Whatever setting i choose (WD oder NE), whatever IRQ/IO i choose, the card  
is recognized but

  - in NE-Mode the card hangs together with HD-Access  CRASH
  - in WD-Mode, all works fine, but the cards (2 of this kind) don't
    recognize one another on the NET

I got these cards very cheap but without infos.
Can anyone post me infos for this card ????

HELP !!

Ciao
  Higgins

--
You can escape the gates of hell, say DOG and WINDOG,

         USE LINUX   :-)     !
## CrossPoint v3.0 ##

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 23:49:37 GMT

[email-masked] (Andre Schroeter) writes:

>hi,
>i'm running it on a 486dx2 66, ati mach 8 (dump isa!!)

Easier said than done for some of us.... it would mean a motherboard AND
video card upgrade.  And it might mean trashing all your RAM too....  Not
cheap!  I have not done this yet because my machine is fairly respectable
(486 DX 33,16MB 0 wait, true SCSI, etc).  Oh well.  Technology marches
on.  Certainly, Doom for Linux is a good excuse for upgrading video :)

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    [email-masked]       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: [email-masked] (Gregory Trubetskoy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem
Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:43:02 GMT

I have the same problem, and I have posted a question regarding this. 
Only diff is - I'm trying to get a PC to route between 2 ppp links. It 
seems that if it has two interfaces - it can't forward packets...
(I too have IP forwarding/gatewaying set to [yes]).

--
================================================================
Gregory Trubetskoy                   [email-masked]
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