Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #761
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 06:13:32 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #761, Volume #2                Thu, 15 Sep 94 06:13:32 EDT

Contents:
  linux doom (Nathan Laredo)
  Re: Accelerated-X for Linux (Gary William Flake)
  Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Mark A. Davis)
  doom speedups (Andrew R. Tefft)
  term & SunOS (Mike Utell)
  Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (John W. Fawcett)
  Re: SLIP/DIP dialback query (Daniel Suman)
  Re: best PCMCIA ethernet? (David Fox)
  The HP 560C printer (SHAKER Kamal)
  Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom (Mark J Elkins)
  Go for Linux available! (Randy Hootman)
  Re: Is SCSI CD-ROM worth the money ? (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: DOOM (Re: 320x200 X resolution?) (Teemu Kilpivuori)
  Re: Compaq Contura Aero (Harald T. Alvestrand)
  VHDL for Linux...? (ADA)
  Re: OS/2 fan wants to try Linux.. What do I need ?? (Jonathan Skanes)
  Re: DOOM for Linux (Peter Schoenmaker)

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From: [email-masked] (Nathan Laredo)
Subject: linux doom
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 23:09:38 GMT

If you're finding geting linux doom from sunsite a little slow
I've made it available for short-term access through ftp.netcom.com
in /pub/Linux as space allows.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT.  I will however support the playmidi package
that I wrote (which you will find in the same place - along with the
newest sound driver code).

I have not yet tested it, but it is the "newer" release from sunsite.

-- nathan
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Gary William Flake)
Subject: Re: Accelerated-X for Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:24:39 GMT

Please not the cross post.  This is in response to an advertisement
placed on comp.os.linux.announce.  I originally posted a follow-up in
that news group, but later decided to give this response a larger
audience. -- GF

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In article <[email-masked]>,
Jeremy Chatfield  <[email-masked]> wrote:
> X Inside Inc has a high performance X Server available for Linux.
> The server is a replacement for the XFree86 Server (i.e. install 
> XFree86 server, fonts, clients and libs and then install 
> Accelerated-X Server).  The server supports modern high performance 
> graphics accelerator chipsets, such as the Matrox MGA series, ATI 
> Mach 64, S3 964, Number 9 I-128, Cirrus GD5434, etc.
  ^^^^^^^

Actually, this is not true.  We purchased the ``Accelerated'' X server
from X-Inside a few weeks ago.  We also purchased an ATI MACH 64
specifically because of this and other advertisements which make such
claims.  After working through versions 1.0 and 1.1 of the server
without success, I called them back to get some technical assistance.
They finally told me that a later release would fix the problem (It's
not that the performance was poor -- the server never worked at all.)
They promised to FedEx a working version to me ASAP.  It never
arrived.  I called back.  It was to arrive two days ago.  Still nothing.

Jeremy Chatfield has not returned a single phone call.  Gary Anderson
was great at selling me on X-Inside but has failed to produce a
working product or deliver any of his promises.  I am actively
seeking a refund.

Let the buyer beware.

Regards,
Gary Flake, Ph.D.
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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:33:20 GMT

[email-masked] (Greg Hennessy) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Mark A. Davis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>My point, originally, is that the word DOS has nothing to do with
>>Microsoft... neither does the word "windows".  The proper names for those
>>products always have been, and still are MS-DOS and MS-Windows!  Microsoft
>>could not, cannot, and will not be able to register common, generic
>>English words to their exclusive use. 

>Well, the Washington post claimed this week that Microsoft *was*
>granted a trademark on "Windows" on appeal, after first being denied. 

I would love to hear any confirmation about this......
This should not happen.  They did register "MS-Windows" and "Microsoft
Windows"  but I can't imagine they can register the concept of just "windows".
They did not create the concept, nor do they own the concept, nor
is MS-Windows the only popular windowing system.....
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From: [email-masked] (Andrew R. Tefft)
Subject: doom speedups
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 00:15:15 GMT

I never played any doom except on Linux the last few days, but
when I got the newer version (with fixed pixel doubling) it was
very much slower. I eventually figured out why.

I had followed the suggestion in the readme (which is only really
hinted at): I don't have a sound card so I blew away sndserver.

Not running sndserver makes a tremendous speed difference for me.
With it there, everything is very jerky. Without, it is nice and smooth.
See how you like it. rm sndserver, or just make it non-executable or
move it out of your path.
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From: [email-masked] (Mike Utell)
Subject: term & SunOS
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 22:52:03 GMT

Hi all .... I'm looking for a precompiled copy of term that runs on SunOS
(version 4.1.3).  My system unfortunatly has no compilers avaiable.  If
you'd be able to send it to me, via uuencode or otherwise, PLEASE send me
some email (or if you know a place to get it)!

It would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Mike Utell
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (John W. Fawcett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
Date: 14 Sep 1994 08:06:25 -0700

In article <[email-masked]>,
Darin Johnson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> >Well maybe, but hey he
>> >can't run Microsoft Office, or use multimedia or even run the DOS apps
>> >required for engineering classes here.
>
>> >2) Isn't the lack of "killer" apps a good reason not to use Unix?
>
>"Killer" apps means different things depending upon what you want
>to do.  If you like ray tracing, then SGI (unix) has the best
>killer apps.  If you're a desktop publishing person, Apple probably
>has the best.  If you do desktop video, then it's Amiga.  If you want
>CAD, it is probably msdos (I think).

Actually, the most used, and most powerful, commercial CAD machines are made by
Intergraph and run UNIX.

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Suman)
Subject: Re: SLIP/DIP dialback query
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:33:17 GMT

Chris Peckham ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I have dip running on a linux system.   I would like to use SLIP over
: a modem configured for dialback.   Here is what I would like to see:

:         local  - start dip up and make the call
:         remote - ring ring; answers and asks for username, password, and
:                  access code; then hangs up
:         local  - wait for the call
:         remote - call me back and prompt for username and password
:         local  - pick up the phone and give appropriate username and password
:         remote - respond with terminal server prompt
:         local  - select slip and away we go !

: Here is what is happening:    

:         local  - start dip up and make the call
:         remote - ring ring; answers and asks for username, password, and
:                  access code; then hangs up
:         local  - EXIT DIP WITH ERROR
:         remote - call me back

: Does anyone have a sample dip configuration file that will do what I want ?

Chris,

Below is a modified version of sample.dip for callback, which works with
dip-3.3.7h1. Note that after dialing there's now a check for errlvl != 1,
instead of 0, since in main.c we have:

  dip_addchat(&chat, "OK",         0);
  dip_addchat(&chat, "CONNECT",    1);
  dip_addchat(&chat, "ERROR",      2);
  dip_addchat(&chat, "BUSY",       3);
  dip_addchat(&chat, "NO CARRIER", 4);

The "wait CONNECT" after dialing has also been removed, since as of version
"g" or so, that's done automatically by mdm_chatseq() in modem.c.

My local and remote names happen to be the same -- I'm not imaginative -- but
they needn't be. Your netmask will probably differ too.

Hope this helps,

Daniel

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##########################################################

main:

  # First of all, set up our name for this connection.
  get $local darkstar

  # Next, set up the other side's name and address.
  get $remote darkstar

  # Set netmask on sl0 to 255.255.248.0
  netmask 255.255.248.0

  # Set gateway
  default

  # Set the desired serial port and speed.
  port modem
  speed 38400
  init ATE1V1X4&C1&D2

  # Dial number
  dial xxx-xxxx
  # if $errlvl != 0 goto modem_trouble
  if $errlvl != 1 goto modem_trouble

  # Wait for connect
  # wait CONNECT 60

  # Rouse the server and send id
  sleep 3
  send \r
  sleep 3
  send \r
  wait Enter 20
  send XXXXXXXX\r

  # Set up for auto answer
  print Waiting for callback
  wait CARRIER 60
  sleep 1
  send AT&Q5W1S36=7S46=138S48=7\r
  wait OK 2
  send ATE1V1X4&C1&D2S0=1\r
  wait OK 2

  # Wait for callback
  wait cisco 60

  # Answer and go into SLIP mode
  sleep 1
  send SLIP darkstar\r
  wait Password
  sleep 1
  send YYYYYYYY\r

  get $mtu 296

  # Say hello and fire up!
done:
  print CONNECTED $locip ---> $rmtip
  mode CSLIP
  goto exit

modem_trouble:
  print Trouble ocurred with the modem...

error:
  print CONNECT FAILED to $remote

exit:

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From: [email-masked] (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
Subject: Re: best PCMCIA ethernet?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:11:11 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:

] For running Linux on Ethernet, I use:
] 
] - Kernel 1.1.48 (it worked with 1.1.45 too)
] - "modules", "NEW" version (date June 26, I think)
] - David Hinds' PCMCIA drivers, version 2.1.3 (current is 2.2.3, I think)
]   from cb-iris.stanford.edu:/pub/pcmcia
] - D-Link DE-650 for the Ethernet (this has been supported the longest,
]   but the 3Com is supposed to be supported too)
] - Megahertz XJ1144 for the modem
] 
] Works like a charm!

Is the PCMCIA chipset in the laptop relevant?  I once heard that
Toshiba uses a non-standard chipset and so doesn't work with
Linux.  Is this true?
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NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: The HP 560C printer
From: [email-masked] (SHAKER Kamal)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 21:46:28 GMT

We're now looking for a new printer, has to be colour for my
brothers design work, and my mother wants the Hewlett Packard 560C.
What I'd like to know is whether it is well supported under OS/2 
and Linux ( my OS's of choice, I assume it has decent drivers for 
Windows ). So, does it? Or does anyone else know of a similar printer 
for about the same price.

Thanks for anything, 
Kamal.
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From: [email-masked] (Mark J Elkins)
Subject: Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:28:27 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Matthew Grant) writes:

>The New NOISE has started.  We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
>XXX with Doom?".

>Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!

Good idea - but rather make it 'comp.os.linux.games' ... and get all the
gaming stuff in a single group.. which means doom, and doom, then again
doom??? - Oh.. and sateroids.

ps - I like doom too!
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From: [email-masked] (Randy Hootman)
Subject: Go for Linux available!
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 16:10:23 GMT

I have xgoban and wally up and running under Linux. If you are a go 
player and interested, you can anonymous ftp from:

ftp.netcom.com /pub/rph/xgoban-wally.tgz

Randy
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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Is SCSI CD-ROM worth the money ?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:03:33 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Kumaran Santhanam <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Ralph Sims ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: [email-masked] (Kevin Esler) writes:
>
>: >I am soon to purchase a system to run Linux. It will have a SCSI hard
>: >disk.  It will also have a double speed CD-ROM drive.  Should I shell
>: >out the extra $50-$100 to get a SCSI CD-ROM, as distinct from a
>: >non-SCSI ?
>
>: Yep.
>
>Definitely get the SCSI!  Linux recognizes it and works with it
>perfectly as long as it can tango with your SCSI controller.
>
>Plus, when transferring CD -> Hard Drive, I believe Linux can do a
>direct transfer on the SCSI bus.  Someone please correct me if I'm
>wrong about this.  

You're wrong.

>All I know is that Linux was _very_ much faster
>than OS/2 when transferring from the CD to Hard Drive.

Readahead will be performed on the CD, write-behind on the hard 
drive, and on many SCSI controllers, these operations will be 
overlapped.

-- 
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country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country. 
Boycott the United States until this changes.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [email-masked] (Teemu Kilpivuori)
Subject: Re: DOOM (Re: 320x200 X resolution?)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 07:05:13 GMT

Philippe Steindl ([email-masked]) wrote:
: > 
: > Note that pixel doubling/tripling doesn't work, and sound only
: > works with a 16 bit soundcard.  (Anyone want to sell one cheap? *grin*)

: Nope, that's wrong :-) There is a newer version on sunsite now, where  
: pixel doubling and tripling are fixed. The 16 bit soundcard thing is true,  
: though...

Not anymore. I found a package called doom_16to8bit_snd.tar.gz 
(or something like that) from ftp.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/Incoming

I haven't tried it yet, so I don't no if it works, but ...

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From: [email-masked] (Harald T. Alvestrand)
Subject: Re: Compaq Contura Aero
Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:49:31 GMT

My Compaq Aero (4/33C with 250M disk) works fine.
X, too, works (if you like X in 640x480x16; it's only VGA)
One thing only:
If you install the PCMCIA driver, you won't be able to use the
PCMCIA floppy at the same time.
I am currently working on a PCMCIA driver for the floppy, but this
requires a fair bit of kernel hacking, unfortunately.
(Floppies weren't supposed to go away and reappear at random times....)
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From: [email-masked] (ADA)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl
Subject: VHDL for Linux...?
Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:06:14 GMT

Hi all...

This primarily addresses the circuits community...

I have been playing (or trying to play) with both magic and ocean.  I
was wondering if there are any free VHDL simulators available or being
worked on for Linux.  If so, what about synthesis tools?

If I'm asking something outrageous, please tell me so...

While I'm on the subject, and I know this isn't the proper group but I
know there are a lot of hardware weenies out there like me, is there
an emacs major mode for VHDL floating around?

Thanks in advance,

Mark
([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan Skanes)
Subject: Re: OS/2 fan wants to try Linux.. What do I need ??
Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:47:18 GMT

todd ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I recently added Linux to my OS/2 machine and am quite
: happy, so I feel somewhat qualified to answer this post:

: Jim Chisholm ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : Hi folks..
: : I'm a long time advocate of OS/2 and I am curious about Linux..

: : 1)will it run on a386DX40 8M ?

: Yes, but slowly.

Not as slowly as you might think.  I've got an AMD-40 + Cyrix Fastmath 
copro + ATI Graphics Ultra Pro ISA and I've got no complaints! (I have 
some pretty productive Xwindows sessions.) 

: : 2)how much HD is required ?

: Give it 100 MB for comfort.

ditto

: : 3)does it require it's own partition or can it live alongside DOS and OS/2 in 
: : the same partition ?

: I'd recommend making a dedicated Linux partition.

I believe there is a file system that will allow you to install Linux on 
top of a DOS partition, but I have no idea how it will effect OS/2.  It 
is packaged with the Slackware 2.0 release on the Q disks.  All that said 
I would still recommend using a seperate partition.

: : 4)can it be booted from DOS or does it require it's own boot manager ?

: Boot it from the OS/2 boot manager if you're using that.  That's
: what I do.

I agree.  OS/2 Boot Mamager is a little easier to look at then Lilo 
(Linux Loader).

: : 5)what are the files required to get me up and running ?
: : 6)where can I get these ?

: Order one of the Slackware 2.0 CDROMs from any of a number of
: distributors.  I got mine from Morse Telecommunications for
: about $50, which includes the installation book (printed, of
: course) and three months of tech support.

If you want to do it on the cheap :> ftp:

sunsite.unc.edu:pub/Linux/distributions/slackware
tsx-11.mit.edu:pub/linux/distributions/slackware

READ THE README FILES in the directories mentioned above!

As well, Slackware's home site is ftp.cdrom.com but I don't know which 
directory it inhabits.

: Todd.
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Overall, I find Linux much better for my needs then OS/2.  (Anybody 
looking for a copy of OS/2 2.1 for Windows 8-) )

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Schoenmaker)
Subject: Re: DOOM for Linux
Date: 15 Sep 1994 01:02:55 GMT

|> PLEASE let's keep doom traffic that isn't related to features of the Linux
|> operating system (it is 'comp.os.linux...' after all) to one of the games
|> groups.  I can see DOOM posting getting out of proportion here - specially
|> as the posters seem to be a little heavy-handed with the cross-posting.
|> 
|> Karl
|> 
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Doom does have to do with the Linux OS.  Who put you in charge of moderating
comp.os.linux.misc??

Just a thought!!

Peter Schoenmaker
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