Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #814
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 94 12:13:16 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #814, Volume #2                Sat, 24 Sep 94 12:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  re: Linux on a 386 (Rusty Chris)
  Re: X-Remote (Paul Gyugyi)
  Re: NCR53c810 alpha driver problem (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: Seeking modem advice, experiences (Ralph Sims)
  Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard? (Gus P Ikonomopoulos)
  Re: HELP: Problems/errors with sz (John Spade)
  Re: CorelDRAW for Unix (philip m. thompson)
  Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (Yasuo Ohgaki)
  Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Dirk J.)
  Mathematica, ibcs2 anyone? (Mary Shenk)
  Re: PPP install and setup (Jim Williams)
  Re: Does Linux save boot msgs to a file (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ? (Thomas Niederreiter)
  Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem (Bill Wiest)
  Re: Damn X-aware xterms!!! (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
  Re: 80-bit floats with f2c and linux (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: CBC News Using Linux for Mail! (S. Keeling)

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From: Rusty Chris <[email-masked]>
Subject: re: Linux on a 386
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 23:14:14 GMT

I`m running 1.1.22 on a 386sx 16, with 8MB.  before i "acquired" the 8
MB, though, I always got the kernel panic stuff when i tried to install.
it`s not too terribly slow, but big compiles, like the kernel, still take
a good hour or two.  BTW, i`m looking to upgrade- does anyone have 
an idea of which would be better: a 486slc40 or a 386dx40 w/CP ?
i`m sure it depends a lot on the applications, but does anyone have a
general idea?
-rusty holleman ([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Gyugyi)
Subject: Re: X-Remote
Date: 20 Sep 1994 21:46:39 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Sean Marrinan) writes:

   I was wondering if there is an X-Remote program for linux.

NCD has an unsupported Linux version of Xremote/xinitremote
available.  I have an NCD 15b at home running off my Linux machine,
and it works just fine.  Contact me if you can't get through to
NCD (I'm sure they have a newer version than I have).

If what you are looking for is a version of X11 that connects
to a workstation running xinitremote, then you'll need to look
at other solutions.  It's probably not in their interest to 
supply software that allows linux boxes to replace their Xterminals
(although they sell DOS/Windows software; "PC-Xremote" I believe,
which supports Xremote.)

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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: NCR53c810 alpha driver problem
Date: 20 Sep 1994 22:15:29 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Reuben A. McFarland <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>Need advice, I have a:
>
>Genoa 486PCI-G ver. A motherboard
>PCI SCSI controller with an NCR53c810 chip in PCI slot 1
>       V3.0 SDMS BIOS (so it says )
>Conner CFP1060s 1.05 Gig. SCSI drive
>
>Using the bootdisk I got from tsx-11 /pub/linux/ALPHA/scsi/ncr53c810/
>ncr_slack.3.gz, I get when booting:
>
>SCSI1: at PCI bus 0, device 1, function 0
>SCSI1: NCR53c810 at memory 0xfc800000, io 0xd000, irq 0
>SCSI0: IRQ not free, detaching
>scsi : 0 hosts
>scsi : detected 0 SCSI disks  0 Tapes 0 CD-ROM dives total
>scsi : 0 buffer total 0 bytes
>
>I guess I need to know how I tell the controller to use a different IRQ.

Either you have a problem in the PCI configuration (board jumpered
wrong, mother board jumpered wrong, extended CMOS setup specifying
wrong IRQ for that slot, etc), or a defective main BIOS which isn't
initializing the board's PCI configuration registers correctly.

It's probably a bad CMOS setting, although many older boards are 
defective.

>This same setup works under DOS. 

DOS doesn't use hardware interrupts.

-- 
Since our leaders won't respect The Constitution, the highest law of our 
country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country. 
Boycott the United States until this changes.

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From: [email-masked] (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Seeking modem advice, experiences
Date: 22 Sep 1994 20:58:27 GMT

[email-masked] (James H. Haynes) writes:

>Last night I noticed there are internal 14.4K modems selling as low as $75,
>and 28.8K modems selling as low as $120.  And a bewildering variety of
>modems selling at a variety of prices.  Can we collect some data on which
>ones do or don't work well with Linux?

Chances are, if you buy a 28.8 now, it won't work "tomorrow."  The
v.34 standard HAS been released, but we are finding out that modem
manufacturers have their own ideas about how that standard is
implemented.  A couple of our users have purchased USR's v.34 
offering, only to find out it won't connect to the 14.4's it had 
been using earlier.  The same garbage happened when v.32bis hit
the streets; modem manufacturers (especially those using Rockwell
chipsets) didn't sell units that were worth the paper their manuals
were printed on.  It took a while (SUPRA took over a year) to get
units out that were "passable."  

My suggestion (it's worth exactly what you paid for it)?  Wait until
next year (about six months) and re-evaluate.  When we upgrade, it
will run about $450/modem (that's just for the daughterboards).
With a couple of hundred in use, we want to make sure we don't 
have an ongoing compatibility issue.  In the meantime, we offer 
free ISDN to our users in lieu of 28.8 access.

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From: [email-masked] (Gus P Ikonomopoulos)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 03:25:31 GMT

[email-masked] (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:

>If Linux runs on your Pentium P90 PCI, or you know of a working such,
>I'd appreciate knowing what motherboard did the trick.
>-- 
>Vaughan Pratt                  http://boole.stanford.edu/boole.html

        I have linux running on an AMI Atlas VIP motherboard with a 90MHz
Pentium.  I also have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (Mach64), NE2000 (Novell-
Mycrodyne), and a Sound Blaster 16 ASP.  It works great.

        I also have an Adaptec 2940 (Fast SCSI-2) controller card with
a Fast SCSI-2 hard drive.  Linux does NOT recognize it.  I have borrowed
my friends IDE hard drive temporarily.  I am hoping a driver will be out
soon.

Gus
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (John Spade)
Subject: Re: HELP: Problems/errors with sz
Date: 23 Sep 1994 17:52:09 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Yo all:
> 
> I'm running a Linux system with dial-in capabilities. When
> my users download files using sz they start getting errors
> at about 19k of data. People are using 14.4k with RTS/CTS
> and they have 16550 UARTs but the problems are still there.
> 

        We had a similar problem, but only when people were 
telnet'd in to our machine and THEN sz.  If the modem is
in the machine itself, or on a multiport board it works fine.  
We've even tested 2 simultaneous 28.8k modems and 3400+cps with
0 errors.
        If your people have to telnet to your machine, then I have a 
telnetd source which I kludged to work.  There are still problems
sometimes with rz via telnet however...  I will put the source in
rocko.lab.csuchico.edu:/pub/linux  if you need it... regards..
--
[email-masked]    "Quality, Service, Price...
[email-masked]                 Pick any two..."

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From: [email-masked] (philip m. thompson)
Subject: Re: CorelDRAW for Unix
Date: 23 Sep 1994 17:58:49 GMT

Mark A. Davis ([email-masked]) wrote:
:> [email-masked] (philip m. thompson) writes:
: >>CorelDRAW runs on Sun, SCO, AIX, etc... Has anybody had any luck running
: >>it on Linux? It's my main DOS application, so if there's a reasonable
: >>chance of success, I'd like to use it at home on my Linux box.

: > The only reason why I still have  Messy Dos on my  HD is CorelDRAW. I
: >just got the new 5 and love et even more.
: > So if there's even a little chance to get Corel on Linux I would 
: Personally, I have not heard any definate confirmations on running SCO
: CorelDRAW under Linux ICBS; but there is a very good chance that it will...
: You can always buy it and try it!  Many good vendors will allow returns
: if it does not work on your equipment (just don't tell them you are running
: it on unsupported Linux!)

Since I originally posted this question I've received a couple of
responses from various people who are running Corel for SCO just fine. I'm
ordering it from Corel - I'll post the results in a while. 

Enjoy,

Phil

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From: [email-masked] (Yasuo Ohgaki)
Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 19:49:38 GMT

Rainer Dorsch ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Alan Cox ([email-masked]) wrote:

: ....

: : 12Mb is more than enough for Linux anyway.

: I'm wondering. If I'm running X (fvwm), Emacs with auctex, and  Latex, 
: compiling a large document, top says that 8meg ram and 4 (of 12) meg swap is
: used. It is not possible to use Xfig at the same time in a reasonable way. 

: Have I configured something wrong? 

No. 12MB is not enough if you memory intensive task like you do.
I think more RAM is better. I have 20MB RAM and I want to upgrade
to 32MB...

--
Yasuo Ohgaki
e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Dirk J.)
Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 01:37:05 GMT

[email-masked] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Svein Erik Brostigen <[email-masked]> wrote:

>>11. Support for ISDN is not generally available.

>Doesn't this belong in a network router instead of a PC card anyway?

Why else put an ISDN-Card into a pc? For an ansering-machine?
Linux is a great ISDN-Router! 
You save at least the price (>1000$) for the router. 

bye             biafra

Yes I know, its "not generally available" but german 1tr6 users 
(like me) are lucky.

-- 
biafra@acab.[isdn.cs.tu|in]-berlin.de
GCS d--->---- H s+:- g+ !p au*  a- w+ v(?) C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L++
    3+>++ E---  N++>+++  K- W---- M !V p--- Y+>++ t++@ 5-- !j G? 
    tv++>! b++ D--- B? e+ u* h+(--) f+ r- !n y? 

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From: [email-masked] (Mary Shenk)
Subject: Mathematica, ibcs2 anyone?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:56:14 GMT

Hey folks, anyone had any success running Mathematica for some other
PC unix under Linux?  WRI is offering unix MMA for $400 here at school,
and I was wondering if I should jump on it.

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Williams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: PPP install and setup
Date: 24 Sep 1994 14:25:06 GMT

Greg J. Pryzby ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I am running the 1.1.49 kernel of Linux.  I got 2.1.2a of ppp from the
: net and built and installed.

: Now the questions:
:     There are files that are referenced in /etc/ppp, but I can't find 
:         examples of the files...
:     There are many readme and SETUP, Notes, etc files, but they all seem
:         to talk about what is needed to setup/install ppp and what needs to
:         be done withour reference to the others.... I am confused,,,

: (My Linux box will use a modem to call a Sun [SunOS 1.4.*].  The Sun will
: have separate entries in the /etc/passwd for different ppp dialups.  Then
: when the system connects, a person can run csh (or your favorite) or exec
: a script for the person dialing up to run ppp.  The Sun is connected to
: a network that that is 'hooked' to Internet.  The goal is is to have my
: Linux box 'on the net' using ppp.... easy huh?

: Any help on getting PPP running is appreciated.

 Ok thats what I do here.I use kermit. WHat I do is this.

call up kermit set the line /dev/cua0 (you can use what ever line)
then set speed 38400
hit c which brings me to the term part then dial the number to the 
remote system. then it ask me for login and passwd. Then it starts it ppp.

I then hit cntrl \ c which brings me back to the kermit prompt. I then 
issue this command.

!nohup pppd /dev/cua0 crtscts -d defaultroute 38400 -detach 

brings the connect right up no problems. There may be a easier way to do 
this but it works for me. Also do you have a ip address assigned to you. 
If not I would ask them to do this.

                
Jim [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: Does Linux save boot msgs to a file
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:22:34 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Leonard101 <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
>(Olav Kvittem) writes:
>
>Most linux distributions are already configured to write the boot messages
>   to /var/adm/syslog.

Oh, I thought, bootmsgs go to nowhere.  The only relieable is, that
the last kernel messages are stored in the kernel and can be showed
using `dmesg'.  It's on your own to add lines like
        cat <<**
        -----------------
        ---- REBOOT -----
        -----------------
        `dmesg`
        **
to your rc.local.

>    I have a syslog file in /var/adm that is 0 bytes in length... how do I
>turn this logging function on?

See /etc/syslog.conf

# /etc/syslog.conf
# For info about the format of this file, see "man syslog.conf" (the BSD man
# page), and /usr/doc/sysklogd/README.linux.
#
# NOTE: YOU HAVE TO USE TABS HERE - NOT SPACES.
# I don't know why.
#
*.*                                             /var/adm/syslog
*.emerg                                         *
*.*                                             /dev/tty1

>   From what I've been able to read so far I think I have to edit one of
>the rc.* files... the last screenful of information contains quite a few
>messages to the effect of:
>
>   /etc/rc.d/rc.S: /sbin/mount: No such file or directory

You should locate your mount binary.   Perhaps it's in /bin/mount or
may be something during your installation went wrong.   (I've never
seen such problems. -- Try a new installation from scratch and make
sure that you install the base set at least.)

>   When I login as root my darkstar:~# prompt contains a 'tilde' before
>the # symbol.  If I ls -a I only get:
>
>   ./  ../  .emacs  .less  .term/  linux@  .kermrc  .lessrc  INSTALL@

That's Ok.

>   If I do a dir I get:
>
>   INSTALL -> /var/adm
>   linux -> /usr/src/linux

That's Ok too.

>   If I then do a cd / then ls produces what I think is a 'normal'  root
>dir:
>
>   bin/  dosc/ lib/  dev/  boot/  home/  etc/ ...  and the prompt looses
>the 'tilde' character.

Dito.

The prompt is configured to show you your current directory.  The
tilde is a synonym for your home dir (root's homedir is /root).
Normally you will be set to your homedir after login.   If you cd
somewhere it should be showed up in you prompt.  (You can change this
behaviour by changing the PS1 and PS2 environtment variables.  (See
man bash for details.)

-- heiko

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:31:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Harry C Pulley <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Cnd$ I can get the Mitsumi for $225 (with card) and the Panasonic/SB16
>multimedia kit with disks for $399.

I can't advise you anything, because I don't know the Panasonic.  And
about the prices I'm irritated - what relation has the Can$ to the US$
or to the DM?

>Any comments on which is better or worse with Linux and why?  I have seen a few
>complaints about Mitsumi here about the IRQ for the card (which someone said
>could easily be fixed by altering a header file).

The known Mitsumi drivers don't use the interrupt anyway, so perhaps
it could be disabled and the code could be cleaned up to prevent the
driver occupying an interrupt.

But  --- I'm in progress of rewriting the driver so it will use the
interrupt.  I can't see any problem.  You can select the interrupt on
the controller card of the mitsumi and then you have to set it in
mcd.h to reflect the controller settings.  (Just in same manner you
have to do it now.)

It's written about Mitsumis unability in reading XA Disks (Photo CD?).
But it's written too, that it's a drivers problem, not a problem of
the drive.  The currently knwon drivers don't seem to support the XA
disks.  -- It's on somebody's  own (perhaps on my) to do any effort to
the driver to make it XA-able.

-- heiko

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas Niederreiter)
Subject: Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ?
Date: 20 Sep 1994 06:17:06 GMT

Hi!

Supports the linux-kernel this combination?

I know, that Mitsumi runs with its own controllercard,
but works the SB16MCD ?    

Thanx in advance,

 Thomas Niederreiter

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Wiest)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.p
Subject: Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 01:16:01 EDT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Bill Wiest)

[email-masked] (root) writes:

> Phil Homewood ([email-masked]) wrote:
> : Mihail S. Iotov ([email-masked]) wrote:
> 
> : : The easiest way out is to install uucp, then smail will call uuname to
> : : find out that the mail is not going to one of your uucp_neighbours and 
> 
> 
> : An even better solution still os go and get sendmail 8.6. 
> : Why have everything forward off through a smart host when it can get
> : to its destination directly anyway? (OK, I know smail can be
> : configured... but it's a pain to get it to send out un-munged headers
> : and such anyway...)
> 
> Any anyone direct me to sendmail 8.6 ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
I believe you can find at ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/ucb/sendmail

--Bill Wiest

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From: [email-masked] (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Subject: Re: Damn X-aware xterms!!!
Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:56:04 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Sean Gilley) writes:
>In article <baba.780217027@ph-meter>,
>Baba Buehler <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>[email-masked] (Alex Ramos) writes:
[snip]

>Nope.  I've noticed this myself.  If you have two Xterm windows up, and
>highlight text in the first, then *click* on the second, you no longer
>have text selected for cut and paste.
>
>Anyone know how to fix this?
>
Huh?  Are you sure it's not still in the buffer?  Why do you click on the other
term  -- and with which button?  It may not still be highlighted, if say you 
type in an xterm, but you can still paste.  At least I can.

>Sean.
>
>---
>Sean L. Gilley                           The Information Super Highway is
>[email-masked]                    really just a rough gravel road with
>614 860 9053 (h), 614 860 5743 (w)       wonderful roadsigns.

-- 

David L. Johnson                        [email-masked] or 
Department of Mathematics               [email-masked]
Lehigh University
14 E. Packer Avenue                     (610) 758-3759
Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174                (610) 828-3708

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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: 80-bit floats with f2c and linux
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 05:25:52 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Anselm Lingnau)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> In article <[email-masked]>, Dan Pop <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> > If you think that the extra bits of precision/exponent are worth the
> > effort, try it. But you'll have to do a lot of work testing the 
> > correctness and consistency of your changes.
> 
> Please consider also that FORTRAN, at least the obsolete version that
> f2c is supposed to compile, *requires* DOUBLE PRECISION variables to
> occupy twice as much storage as REAL variables (or, incidentally, as
> much storage as COMPLEX variables). This is so things like EQUIVALENCE
> can work correctly.
> 

Well, at least some versions of Fortran have REAL*<size>, for example:

        REAL*4  = single
        REAL*8  = double
        REAL*10 = long double

        /hpa

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From: [email-masked] (S. Keeling)
Subject: Re: CBC News Using Linux for Mail!
Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:39:27 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>,
Ken Edwards <[email-masked]> wrote:
>The CBC, Canada's National Public network publishes [email-masked]
>as their email address at the end of each show.
>
>Not only am I glad to see the network saving money by using Linux, I thought
>linuxers would be interested in seeing evidence of just how far Linux has

[uunorth.north.net]

Welcome to Linux version 1.1.48 at uunorth.north.net !

  5:34pm  up 1 day,  7:07,  9 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.28, 0.34

Login: tvnews                           Name: CBC TV News
Directory: /home/pip/tvnews             Shell: /bin/true
Never logged in.        <----------------------------------  !!
New mail received Thu Sep 22 17:06 1994 (EST)
     Unread since Tue Sep 20 09:33 1994 (EST)
No Plan.

-- 

 [email-masked]       s. keeling,   aecl - whiteshell labs

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