Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #822
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 17:13:32 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #822, Volume #2                Sun, 25 Sep 94 17:13:32 EDT

Contents:
  Slackware 2.0 = no more fsck on boot up?? (Whay S. Lee)
  Fall 94 Install Problems ([email-masked])
  Forgery: Was "Special Sale on QNX!" ([email-masked])
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Larry Pyeatt)
  Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Mark Weaver)
  Re: More Memory = Slow Linux?? (Huw Leonard)
  Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation (Alexandra Griffin)
  Linux AMD Problems (Sean Watkins)
  Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA Driver? (Ivo Welch)
  PPP install and setup (Greg J. Pryzby)
  Re: CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE? (Bill Zettler)
  Re: Looking for Linux BBS software (Jay Ashworth)
  Re: Free Linux CD's (Clifford Story)
  what about all the other *linux* newsgroups (was Re: Biz.comp.linux*) (Ed Hew)
  Re: reccomend a CD-ROM? (Joe Pannon)

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From: [email-masked] (Whay S. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Slackware 2.0 = no more fsck on boot up??
Date: 25 Sep 94 14:09:44

hello there.

I upgraded from Slackware 1.0(.2?) to Slackware 2.0.0 lately.
Shortly after, I upgraded the kernal to 1.1.45.

My problem is:

In the old slackware release, if a file system is found to be
corrupted or max-mount-count-reached, fsck is run'ed on it
automatically at boot up.  But this doesn't seem to be the case
anymore in this release.  What happens now is that the file systems
are mounted anyway, withouth invoking fsck.  I can boot from floppy
and run fsck manually, but it doesn't reset the flag that says
max-mount-count-reached ...  What can I do to make it behave like
it used to, ie. call fsck on boot up when needed ?

        help please?  please cc: me byn email too. thanks.

whay.

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From: [email-masked]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Fall 94 Install Problems
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 12:04:29 CDT

I am trying to install the Fall 1994 Yggdrasil CD but failing. I have switched 
hardware (known to work under DOS and Fall 1993 Linux) and tried at least 10 
times but no success.
 
When I boot up from the floppy, I get some messages about TAR: UNABLE TO CREATE 
DIRECTORY /HOME...... :READ-ONLY FILE SYSTEM  and when I go into the INSTALL 
script, I get messages such as /INSTALL/INSTALL permission denied.
 
I do get to fdisk and set up the hard disk after that but, it just crashes 
later (unable to mount root, actually various messages depending upon the 
fullness of the Moon).
 
Does anyone have some hints about why this may be happening????
 
Thanks

Gene Plantz

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Forgery: Was "Special Sale on QNX!"
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 13:08:13 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

  Please do not flame the article: "Special Sale On QNX!".
  
  It is a feeble attempt at forgery, and was not posted
  by a commercial distributor of QNX.
  
  It was posted from an undergrad account at uwaterloo.ca,
  and I have contacted the site admin to ask him to look into this matter.

Cheers,
        Laszlo Herczeg
     *** Ask me about the Toronto Linux Users Group (TLUG)  ***

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From: [email-masked] (Larry Pyeatt)
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: 23 Sep 1994 18:17:26 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Valery Petrov) writes:
|> Some benchmarks comparison:
|> 
|>                      DELL XPS-90      SGI with R4000 cpu (100MHz):
|> Integer:             19.2 sec.               23.3 sec.
|> Floating point:              200 sec.                199 sec.
|> 
|> I used gcc-2.5.8 with Linux-1.1.51 on DELL's Pentium and C 3.18 with
|> Irix 5.2 on Silicon Graphics machine. Programs were written in plain
|> C using double precision for floating point. Considering 
|> the price difference (similarly equipped SGI is ~3 times more expensive)
|> I wonder who whould like to buy those Indigos nowdays. 
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No one.  The SGI you are describing is outdated and not sold anymore.
Funny how a top of the line PC is being compared to something that
is too slow to be a workstation anymore.

1. the MIPS R4000 is hardly the fastest processor made by MIPS.  The
   Indego line is several years old whereas Pentium 90 is new.  If you
   want to compare apples to apples, use a new Indy with a MIPS R4600
   processor at 166 Mhz.  It blows the doors off Pentium 90.  Would you
   like to send your code to me so I can run it on a new SGI machine?

2. SGI Indy does not cost ~3 times more than a top of the line DELL.
   Let's look at the numbers, shall we:

        Dell XPS 90, 16Meg ram, 17" monitor, #9 graphics card,
        CD Rom Drive, 1G IDE disk, ethernet card, 3 year warranty.
        Price: ~$4400

        SGI Indy, 16 Meg Ram, 17" monitor, accelerated graphics
        1G FAST SCSI Drive, ethernet, CCD camera, 3 year warranty.
        Price: ~$6500

   You should note the the Indy has a MIPS R4600 processor, which is
   much faster than Pentium.  Also, the SCSI Drive is faster and more
   expandable than the Dell IDE.  Overall, the Indy will have much
   higher throughput and lower price/performance.

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Weaver)
Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 02:46:13 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
David Edwards <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Juana Moreno ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: I just had this idea. There must be a way to simulate a 56.6 Kb connection
>: without the need unconventional equipment (from the home user point of view,
>: I mean). May be with just 2 28.8 modems connected to 2 regular phone lines and
>: some smart low level packet routing ( choosing for a packet the least busy 
>: line) it has to be possible. It will be way much cheaper than the special
>: 56.6 circuits, and it could even encourage the vendors of those equipments to
>: lower the price, given the cheap alternative.
>: So, whats your opinion. It has to be possible. Writing a whole operating 
>: system was much more difficult and it has been accomplished. This is just a
>: small retouch.
>Hmmm... maybe the load balancing stuff could do this... (I have no idea
>how much of the load-balancing stuff has been implemented, or how stable
>it is...)... If you could set up routing tables at both ends for this, it
>seems like it would probibly work. (Famous last words, I know... :) )

I believe that's exactly what the load balancing stuff does in fact.
However, it would most likely only for data sent by Linux.  In order for
downloaded data to use both modems optimally, the machine on the other
side would have to do load balancing, and most OSes don't.

Also, if you don't have control of the routing tables on the other side,
each SLIP connection would give you a separate IP address, which would
further complicate matters.

If you own both boxes, it should work.

        Mark

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From: [email-masked] (Huw Leonard)
Subject: Re: More Memory = Slow Linux??
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:47:22 GMT

In article <ianm.780339897@miles> [email-masked] (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
>Ummm... I believe that VLB does not provide its own DMA hardware,
>but uses that which is on the ISA bus instead.  Thus it doesn't fix
>the > 16M problem.

Both of my VL motherboards support 32-bit DMA access (the docs for one 
specifically states it), so I assumed that it is part of the standard (they 
are from different manufacturers). OS/2 is considerably slower on my 32 MB 
SCSI machine (which has an AHA1542C) than on my 32 MB IDE machine (which has a 
non-enhanced VL IDE controller), even though the former has 128 KB more cache.

>From what I've read on the net, Linux uses bounce buffers, DMAing into
>kernel space < 16M and then copying to the real location, > 16M if
>necessary.

Sounds like Linux handles non-DMAable memory the same way as OS/2.

============================================================
Huw Leonard - Speaking only for himself

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From: [email-masked] (Alexandra Griffin)
Subject: Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation
Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:12:03 GMT

The easiest way to defeat inactivity timers is to keep a "tmon" or
"xtmon" window open somewhere.  Have your term-invocation script
automatically run one of these and you can stay online indefinitely
(they do the equivalent of a "ping" to the remote side peridoically
for trafic analysis)...
-- alex

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Subject: Linux AMD Problems
From: [email-masked] (Sean Watkins)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 16:58:13 GMT

Hi,

After labouring several hours to get AMD working, I have come to the
ultimate conclusion that AMD coupled with NIS under Linux is broken.
Following example summarizes:

Let the auto.home map be equal to:

gopher type:=link;fs:=/home/other/gopher
www type:=link;fs:=/home/other/www
other host!=dns;type:=nfs;rhost:=dns;rfs:=/scsi/other           host==dns;type:=link;fs:=/scsi/other
ftp type:=link;fs:=/home/other/ftp
staff host!=server02;type:=nfs;rhost:=server02;rfs:=/staff      host==server02;type:=link;fs:=/staff
cust host!=dns;type:=nfs;rhost:=dns;rfs:=/scsi/cust             host==dns;type:=link;fs:=/scsi/cust

NIS Querys of this map anywhere succeed --

pc06 ~ % ypcat -k auto.home
gopher type:=link;fs:=/home/other/gopher
www type:=link;fs:=/home/other/www
other host!=dns;type:=nfs;rhost:=dns;rfs:=/scsi/other           host==dns;type:=link;fs:=/scsi/other
ftp type:=link;fs:=/home/other/ftp
staff host!=server02;type:=nfs;rhost:=server02;rfs:=/staff      host==server02;type:=link;fs:=/staff
cust host!=dns;type:=nfs;rhost:=dns;rfs:=/scsi/cust             host==dns;type:=link;fs:=/scsi/cust
pc06 ~ %

Amd -v reveals:
pc06 ~ % amd -v
Copyright (c) 1990 Jan-Simon Pendry
Copyright (c) 1990 Imperial College of Science, Technology & Medicine
Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California.
Unofficial patch level 67.
amd 5.2.2.2 of 1992/05/31 16:53:21 bsd44-beta #0: Mon Aug 29 11:39:51 MDT 1994
Built by root@pc01 for an i486 running linux version 1.1.34 (little-endian).
Map support for: root, passwd, union, file, error.
FS: ufs, nfs, nfsx, host, link, linkx, pcfs, program, union, auto,
    direct, toplvl, error.
    Primary network: primnetname="x.x.x.x" (primnetnum=x.x.x).
No Subsidiary network.
pc06 ~ %
(x.x.x.x have been replaced)

Invocation of amd reveals:
pc06 ~ % amd -a /tmp_mnt /home auto.home
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[412]/info:  My ip addr is 0x100007f
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[413]/info:  file server localhost type local starts up
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: type nfs
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: version 1
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: fd 6
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: hostname 127.0.0.1
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: port 1023
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: fsname pc06:(pid413)
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: type (mntent) auto
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: opts intr,rw,port=1023,timeo=8,retrans=110,indirect
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[414]/info:  linux mount: dir /home
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[413]/user:  No source data for map auto.home
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sep 25 10:59:33 pc06 amd[413]/info:  auto.home mounted fstype toplvl on /home
pc06 ~ %

Ideas??? If I ypcat -k auto.home > /etc/auto.home then do amd -a /tmp_mnt
/home /etc/auto.home it is successfull...

-- 
Sean Watkins 
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Ivo Welch)
Subject: Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA Driver?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 19:05:03 GMT

Has anyone written such a beast? All I need is to hook up a large SCSI  
disk to my portable computer while I am at home. (And if I could only get  
more than 25 text lines on my 480line VGA LCD screen, it would be  
perfect.)

Ivo Welch                       [email-masked] = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance            [email-masked]
AGSM at UCLA                    

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From: [email-masked] (Greg J. Pryzby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: PPP install and setup
Date: 23 Sep 1994 18:27:31 GMT

I am running the 1.1.49 kernel of Linux.  I got 2.1.2a of ppp from the
net and built and installed.

Now the questions:
    There are files that are referenced in /etc/ppp, but I can't find 
        examples of the files...
    There are many readme and SETUP, Notes, etc files, but they all seem
        to talk about what is needed to setup/install ppp and what needs to
        be done withour reference to the others.... I am confused,,,

(My Linux box will use a modem to call a Sun [SunOS 1.4.*].  The Sun will
have separate entries in the /etc/passwd for different ppp dialups.  Then
when the system connects, a person can run csh (or your favorite) or exec
a script for the person dialing up to run ppp.  The Sun is connected to
a network that that is 'hooked' to Internet.  The goal is is to have my
Linux box 'on the net' using ppp.... easy huh?

Any help on getting PPP running is appreciated.

--
gregory j pryzby                                          [email-masked]

herbivores ate well because their food did never run

Keep Disney out of Virginia and the history business!

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Zettler)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:57:49 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Carlos Antunes) writes:
|> 
|> Do you know of any CD-ROM that has the complete /pub/Linux tree directory
|> has seen in Sunsite?
|> 

That CD is distributed by Walnut Creek CD-ROM, and is updated I believe quarterly.
They have a new 2-CD set just released weeks ago.

Walnut Creek CDROM
1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Suite 260
Walnut Creek, CA 94596
1-510-674-0783
1-510-674-0821 FAX

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From: [email-masked] (Jay Ashworth)
Subject: Re: Looking for Linux BBS software
Date: 23 Sep 1994 15:27:43 -0400

[email-masked] (Kenneth Brody) writes:
>I am considering starting a BBS from my Linux system.  I looked at the sunsite
>archives, and found a wide array of possibilities.

>I would like to hear from anyone out there who is actually running a Linux
>BBS about which software they use, along with the best/worst features, in an
>attempt to narrow down the field I should consider.  I'd also like to know
>why you chose the system that you use, and maybe even why you chose not to
>use some others.

Make you a trade...

I'm writing one as we speak.  Based on Maximus, an idea which ought to be
near and dear to your heart... :-)

I'll give you the first copy... 

if you help me port filePro to Linux.  :-)^2

Cheers,
-- jr 'Oh, Ghod!  not _him_!' a
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth        High Technology Systems Comsulting             Ashworth
Designer              Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation       & Associates
ka1fjx/4                                                  
[email-masked]   "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?"  813 790 7592

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From: Clifford Story <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Free Linux CD's
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:45:06 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> Marc Berkowitz, [email-masked] writes:
>Can you please post your street address?

They're at 4880 Stevens Creek Boulevard, Suite 205.  That's somewhere
between Bascom and Lawrence.  I think.

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Crossposted-To: biz.config
From: [email-masked] (Ed Hew)
Subject: what about all the other *linux* newsgroups (was Re: Biz.comp.linux*)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:15:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Pierre Uszynski <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pierre Uszynski) writes:
>>>And so far, distribution, configuration and consulting businesses
>>>have been welcome to post there (within the usual limits of decency,
>>>and etiquette...), and get mentioned in the FAQs easily.
>
>Yes, you said that already. I understand what you are saying. I don't
>understand why you think you can't use the current comp.os.linux groups
>for that stuff.

My personal feeling is that a biz.linux.* sub-hierarchy might be
a welcome addition to biz.  I must however question when the proposer
would wish to remove the existing linux newsgroups, otherwise the need
for yet more is rather obscure to me.

From my (not exactly complete) active file:

comp.os.linux.admin 0000014776 00001 y
comp.os.linux.announce 0000002501 0000000001 m
comp.os.linux.development 0000015957 00001 y
comp.os.linux.help 0000056124 00001 y
comp.os.linux.misc 0000025184 00001 y
linux.act.680x0 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.admin 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.apps 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.bbsdev 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.c-programming 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.chaos_digest 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.compression 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.configs 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.debian 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.doc 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.fido 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.fsf 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.fsstnd 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.ftp 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.gcc 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.hams 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.ibcs2 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.ibsc2 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.interviews 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.japanese 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.kernel 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.laptops 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.linux-bbs 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.linuxbsd 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.linuxnews 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.linuxss 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.localbus 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.lugnuts 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.mca 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.mgr 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.mips 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.msdos 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.mumail 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.net 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.new-channels 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.newbie 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.normal 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.nys 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.oasg-trust 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.oi 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.pkg 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.postgres 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.ppp 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.promotion 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.qag 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.scsi 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.serial 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.seyon 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.sound 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.svgalib 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.sysvpkg-project 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.tape 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.term 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.tktools 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.userfs 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.uucp 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.wabi 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.word 0000000000 00001 m
linux.act.x11 0000000000 00001 m
linux.apps.bbsdev 0000000000 00001 m
linux.apps.flexfax 0000000000 00001 m
linux.apps.linux-bbs 0000000000 00001 m
linux.debian 0000000000 00001 m
linux.debian.announce 0000000000 00001 m
linux.debian.user 0000000000 00001 m
linux.fido.ifmail 0000000000 00001 y
linux.free-widgets.announce 0000000000 00001 m
linux.free-widgets.bugs 0000000000 00001 m
linux.free-widgets.development 0000000000 00001 m
linux.motif.clone 0000000000 00001 m
linux.new-tty 0000000000 00001 m
linux.news.groups 0000000000 00001 y
linux.samba 0000000000 00001 m
linux.samba.announce 0000000000 00001 m
linux.sdk 0000000000 00001 m
linux.test 0000000000 00001 y
linux.wine.users 0000000000 00001 m

From the UUNET active file:

alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions 0000000825 0000000538 y
aus.computers.linux 0000001505 0000000966 y
comp.os.linux.admin 0000015926 0000010349 y
comp.os.linux.announce 0000002853 0000002490 m
comp.os.linux.development 0000017447 0000011927 y
comp.os.linux.help 0000060886 0000043490 y
comp.os.linux.misc 0000027685 0000019883 y
dc.org.linux-users 0000000098 0000000001 y
de.comp.os.linux 0000019968 0000014136 y
fido.ger.linux 0000004095 0000001847 y
fido.linux-ger 0000000451 0000000450 y
fj.os.linux 0000002023 0000001474 y
fr.comp.os.linux 0000007203 0000006284 y
hanse.linux 0000000010 0000000006 y
maus.os.linux 0000004681 0000003553 y
maus.os.linux68k 0000000588 0000000171 y
no.linux 0000000652 0000000484 y
rpi.os.linux 0000000063 0000000056 y
sfnet.atk.linux 0000001869 0000001499 y
tw.bbs.comp.linux 0000003492 0000000368 y
ucb.os.linux 0000000013 0000000001 y
uiuc.sw.linux 0000000217 0000000161 y
umn.local-lists.linux-activists 0000000000 0000000001 y
umn.net-lists.linux-activists 0000000098 0000000096 y
utah.linux 0000000033 0000000020 y

Just how many disjointed linux newsgroups are needed?  Certainly,
I can see potential justification for biz.linux.*, but that would
necessarily be at the expense of the majority of the foregoing.

What are the proposer's intentions?

                --ed
--
  Ed. A. Hew,    <[email-masked]>    ....!uunet.ca!xenitec!eah
  {biz.sco godfather, biz FAQ maintainer, ... other relevant hats.}

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From: [email-masked] (Joe Pannon)
Subject: Re: reccomend a CD-ROM?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:45:01 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Steve DuChene <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>       Hey guys, why don't you just check out the documentation that has
>       this information available? At sunsite.unc.edu in the /pub/Linux/
>       docs/howto directory there is a Hardware-HOWTO (listing of hardware 
>       compatable with Linux and receintly updated) and I believe there 
>       also is a CDROM-HOWTO that may have some usefull info in it too.

Last time I checked the Hardware HOWTO, it only listed the Linux
supported CD ROM drives without any PROs and CONs for each.  Besides,
the original question was much broader here: it asked for those that
have good support also in DOS and OS/2, not to mention the SoundBlaster
addition.

So, Steve, perhaps you should have read those posts more attentively
before grabbing the keyboard.

Joe Pannon

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