Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #827
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 13:13:22 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #827, Volume #2                Mon, 26 Sep 94 13:13:22 EDT

Contents:
  Linux Flame Bait (Jon Nash)
  HD drivers (Frode Vatvedt Fjeld)
  Problem with using logical partitions (Mihail S. Iotov)
  Help: New Problem with Ftape (Steve Ingle)
  Phone # for ASUS, please. (Al Dykes)
  Device Drivers (prestataire.DELIS)
  Re: What happened to the supposed code freeze? (Lars Wirzenius)
  Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (Cornelius Krasel)
  Re: setting up FTP anonymous (Mark Weaver)
  Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: sqrt function undefined? (Sverker Wiberg)
  Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support (Neal Dalton)
  Re: sqrt function undefined? (Mike Castle)
  Re: CorelDRAW for Unix (Jacques Gelinas)
  Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (Dan Major)
  Re: YP / NIS Master Server Software ?? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Marc ter Horst)

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From: [email-masked] (Jon Nash)
Subject: Linux Flame Bait
Date: 24 Sep 1994 00:19:34 GMT

I was happy to read most of the recent flame bait thread about why Linux
isn't good enough for commercial use...

Although I use Linux as a hobby I must toss out my two cents worth :)

In a mostly computer illiterate(sp?) world there is something to be said for
plug and play.  Sure, it's fun to play around getting _your_ system to work,
but my advisor has grant proposals and budgets to write...  he doesn't have
the time to twiddle around.  (I guess he could make me do it :)...  which
brings me to a problem of mine.

I still use DOS/Windoze on a daily basis, just because I can't get Linux to
print on my HP Laserjet III.

Is there anyone willing to teach me something about this?  I have to say that
many casual users would be completely turned off by Linux if they couldn't get
their favorite WP (whatever they may use) to print after the first 2 minutes
of fiddeling!

Before Linux becomes too popular with the casual user it will have to have a
_little_ more plug and play built in.

If anyone can help me get my printer to printer I would be _very_ greatful!
My thesis ultimately rides on this :)  (and yes, I'm choosing to use LaTeX
over WordPerfect or Microsoft Word)

Jon Nash
Colorado State University
Physics Department
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Frode Vatvedt Fjeld)
Subject: HD drivers
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:09:25 GMT

Can someone please point me to the information/whatever
I need to write HD-controller-drivers for Linux?

-- 
Frode Fjeld        e-mail..: [email-masked]
                   WWW.....: http://www.cs.uit.no/~frodef/frodef.html

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From: [email-masked] (Mihail S. Iotov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Problem with using logical partitions
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:09:13 GMT

I had a DOS partition within a DOS partition created bye DOS fdisk and I decided
to change it to linux native and did that with Linux fdisk. But now I can mount
it as either ext2 or msdos ! I did mke2fs before that. I had left the old
fstab entry and upon boot it was mounted as msdos. That does not seem correct tome and may leed to fs corruption.

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Ingle)
Subject: Help: New Problem with Ftape
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:29:06 GMT

        I am running Linux 1.1.42, ftape 1.13b, and the 1.1 modules.
        After compiling ftape 1.13b and the latest modules without error,
        I get an excessive amount of "Single Overrun" errors and the tape
        starts and stops almost continuously. Doing an "mt erase" produces
        as much as 9 overrun errors and a tar -cv will log excessive overrun
        errors and eventually aborts. Some where between 
        Linux 1.1.31/Ftape 1.12 and Linux 1.1.42/Ftape 1.13b this overrun
        problem appeared. In the previous version of the kernel and ftape the
        tape would stream almost continuously and would not get any overrun
        errors. One of the reasons that I went to the ftape 1.13b version was
        to take advantage of the high speed controller enhancements which
        were added to this version. I really don't want to take a giant step
        backwards, because I need the fixes in the later versions. If anyone
        has had the same problem or has any ideas on how to solve the overrun
        errors, please mail directly to "[email-masked]" or post to this
        channel.

                                                Thanks in advance,
                                                [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Al Dykes)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Phone # for ASUS, please.
Date: 26 Sep 1994 09:32:05 -0400

Sorry to post on the net for this, but I'd like to get motherboard specs
from ASUS.  Can someone send me their phone #. 

Thanks

Al Dykes
=========
[email-masked]

-- 
Al Dykes
===========
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (prestataire.DELIS)
Subject: Device Drivers
Date: 26 Sep 1994 13:58:41 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hello Internet friends,

I'm looking for some device drivers for Linux : 

Adaptec 2940 SCSI Contriler Card. and Matrox Mga Video card.

Please email me any answare.

Thanks in advance.

Omar
=================================================================================
[email-masked]       Omar Toure (France).

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From: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: What happened to the supposed code freeze?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 10:55:13 +0200

[email-masked] writes:
> The evidence supports the hypothesis that we are in a code freeze now.

Actually, the evidence supports the hypothesis that Linus is in Australia
now.  The code freeze is merely a convenient end result. :-)

-- 
[email-masked]  (finger [email-masked])
ftp.cs.helsinki.fi:pub/Software/Local/Publib -- general C function library

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From: [email-masked] (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:52:11 GMT

S. Troughton ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I am new to using Linux and I was wondering what editors/wordprocessors
: exists. The ones I know about (came with the Slackware distribution) are
: Emacs (several variants), TeX (lots of different macros), Jove, ed and elvis.
: I have also invested in Crsip (not working yet).

Editors I know of (I still stick to vi and think of moving to emacs):

- vi in different flavours (I use vim, there is also elvis and probably others)
- emacs in different flavours
- joe (emacs variant?)
- jove
- axe
- ed
- xedit
- doc (editor especially for TeX)

Wordprocessors I have heard of :-) (I stick to TeX/LaTeX):
- Word Perfect (only under SCO emulation)
- andrew
- ez

Maybe we should add a more complete list to the FAQ (if there isn't already
something on word processing in there).

--Cornelius.

--
/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */
/* email: [email-masked]                 fax: +49 89 8578 3795 */
/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (Edward O. Wilson, 1975)    */

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Weaver)
Subject: Re: setting up FTP anonymous
Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:49:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Bill Zettler <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Some of these may be variable. I leave it to you to determine 
>file and directory permissions. For now, build them as root 
>and open the files for universal access. Surprisingly, the 
>biggest problem is getting ls to work.
>
>ftp is in your /etc/passwd with a home directory of /ftp,
>and NO password (there's a * in the password field)
>
>/ftp directory exists
>/ftp/bin directory exists and contains:
>    /ftp/bin/ls is a copy (or hard link) of /bin/ls
>/ftp/etc exists and contains:
>    /ftp/etc/group is a copy of /etc/group
>    /ftp/etc/passwd is a copy of /etc/passwd
>      - these files are ONLY for ls to determine group and owner
>        of listed files and the NET-2 HOW-TO tells you to
>        remove the password fields entirely from the shadow
>        version of passwd so they aren't accessible.
>/ftp/lib exists and contains:
>    /ftp/lib/libc.so.4 is copy of /lib/libc.so.4 (the number may vary)
>    /ftp/lib/ld.so is a copy of /lib/ld.so (this little fact is
>               left out by the NET-2 HOW-TO)
>
>Now, provided your ftp daemon works, anon access should work. All
>directories below /ftp will be visible. Typical ftp sites have 
>a /ftp/pub directory with subdirectories to taste.

BE CAREFUL.  Bill hasn't mentioned what permissions to give these files,
and if you aren't careful you'll be opening up a possible security hole.

1. Make sure that the password field for ftp is '*', not empty.
   Otherwise, people will be able to telnet in as ftp with no password.
2. The copy of /etc/passwd that you put in the ftp directory should
   have '*' as the password field of every entry.
3. All files outside of ~ftp/pub should be mode 444 except ld.so and ls
   which are 555.  All should be owned by root.
4. The ~ftp/etc, ~ftp/bin, and ~ftp/lib dirs should be mode 111 and owned
   by root.
5. The ~ftp directory should be mode 555 and owned by root.
6. What you do inside pub depends on your needs.  If a directory is
   globally writable (like an Incoming directory), it is a good idea to
   set the sticky bit (eg mode 1777) so that users can't remove other
   user's files.  Also, you may not want the Incoming directory to be
   readable depending on your needs.
7. Make sure /etc/ftpusers (the main /etc, not the one in ~ftp) contains
   root, daemon, and all other accounts in the password file that don't
   contain accounts of real people.  It should not contain "ftp".

This only covers the traditional ftpd, not wu-ftpd.  I imagine that all
the above applies for wu-ftpd and more.

        Mark
====================================================================
Email: [email-masked]           | Brown University
PGP Key: finger [email-masked]       | Dept of Computer Science

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:22:25 GMT

[email-masked] (Jeff Arnholt) writes:

>I use WP at work on a SparcStation.  I use WP under Windows
>at home.  WP is the only utility I'm missing from my
>Linux arsenal.  Questions: does it run under Linux?

Yes.

>  What problems
>have people encountered?

Just some install strangeness, which is to be expected.

>  Would anybody recommend it?

I am not running it on Linux (I am on SCO, however), so I can't comment too
much on running it under Linux.  It runs great under SCO; there are some
bugs, but that's life...

>I should sadly note that the Windows version is much faster
>than the SparcStation (the Sun having >3x mips), but of course not as
>reliable.

The MS-"Windows" version is 1) not portable, 2) not easily revised,
3) platform specific,  4) local display only,  5) supported by more
debuggers and optimizers.

>  I'd guess that SCO WP is like molasses.

The text version flies at an incredible speed.  The Xwindows version will
be similar to the Sun version.  WordPerfect 5.1 was WordPerfect's first
attempt at X software, it is rather large and slow.... but usable.  One
must consider that WordPerfect 5.1 does a whole lot of stuff.  I know
that the new Unix WP 6.0 is larger still, but hopefully faster and
less buggy (due to their experience with X now).

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    [email-masked]       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: [email-masked] (Sverker Wiberg)
Subject: Re: sqrt function undefined?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 13:50:22 GMT

[email-masked] (Kenneth R Whittaker) writes:
> I have a problem.
> 
> #include <math.h>
> 
> user sqrt function.
> 
> When I compile I get 
> /tmp/cca109321.o: Undefined symbol _sqrt referenced from text segment
> 
> I don't understand it.  I included it.  Are there some config changes I
> need to check?
> 
> I'm using gcc v2.4 under Linux.
> 
> Any help?
> Thanks in advance!

Did you remember to link in the math lib? You would do that by adding
`-lm' to gcc's args, as in

        gcc frobozz.c -lm

--
Sverker Wiberg  <[email-masked]>
        There is more than one way to skin a cat:
           Way #1: Use a knife.
        GCS -d+ c+(++) l++ u e+(*) m++(*) s !n h f+ g+ w t+ r !y

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Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.isdn,mn.general
From: [email-masked] (Neal Dalton)
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:02:20 GMT

Jeffrey Comstock ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Neal Dalton ([email-masked]) wrote:

: : So, I think everyone should, on principle, call Digiboard and tell them
: : that they want this support.

: about two years ago when the serial drivers where being developed, someone
: wanted information from Digiboard so kernel support for their products could
: be added to the distruibution.  They said they wouldnt support linux, so 
: the linux developers said the hell with them.

OK,  I talked to Digiboard.  They will be have Linux drivers for their
multiport serial boards available Nov. 1.

There is some hope,

Neal

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From: [email-masked] (Mike Castle)
Subject: Re: sqrt function undefined?
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:30:21 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Kenneth R Whittaker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>When I compile I get 
>/tmp/cca109321.o: Undefined symbol _sqrt referenced from text segment
>
>I don't understand it.  I included it.  Are there some config changes I
>need to check?

Including it only tells the compiler what type of arguments it
expects, and what it returns.  To get the actual function, you
need to tell the linker to also search the math library
(something it does NOT do by default).

Add the -lm option to the end of the gcc command line.  This will
tell gcc to tell the linker to also search lib.m, which is the
math library.

mrc

-- 
Mike Castle .-=NEXUS=-.  Life is like a clock:  You can work constantly
  [email-masked]     and be right all the time, or not work at all
   [email-masked]       and be right at least twice a day.  -- mrc
    We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan.  -- Watchmen

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From: [email-masked] (Jacques Gelinas)
Subject: Re: CorelDRAW for Unix
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 94 16:52:55 GMT

[email-masked] (Mark A. Davis) writes:

>[email-masked] (Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes:

>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (philip m. thompson) writes:
>>>
>>>CorelDRAW runs on Sun, SCO, AIX, etc... Has anybody had any luck running
>>>it on Linux? It's my main DOS application, so if there's a reasonable
>>>chance of success, I'd like to use it at home on my Linux box.

>> The only reason why I still have  Messy Dos on my  HD is CorelDRAW. I
>>just got the new 5 and love et even more.

>> So if there's even a little chance to get Corel on Linux I would really like to know, too.

A week ago, someone (lost the message) post on the iBCS2
channel about CorelDraw. It works. His report was about the little
installation details. I suggest you wait a little bit. Currently
iBCS2 developpers are talking about going BETA. The will release
with the package the various installation notes for different
packages.

-- 

========================================================
Jacques Gelinas ([email-masked])
Maintainer of US4BINR [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Major)
Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
Date: 26 Sep 1994 15:03:33 GMT

[email-masked] ("S. Troughton") writes:

>Hi all,

>I am new to using Linux and I was wondering what editors/wordprocessors
>exists. The ones I know about (came with the Slackware distribution) are
>Emacs (several variants), TeX (lots of different macros), Jove, ed and elvis.
>I have also invested in Crsip (not working yet).

>This is a request for opinions, not arguements, directions on how to get
>something, nor am I asking for a guide to the use of a particular piece of
>software. All I really want is a list of all the packages that run under
>Linux so I can make a choice.

>TIA
>--
>Wot! No sig? Na, I ain't interested in nufing.
>BFB

I personally like JOE. It i ssimilar to wordstar and the DOS
editor I use, Q-edit.

                        .... dan

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: YP / NIS Master Server Software ??
Date: 26 Sep 1994 15:01:04 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Richard Farrar <[email-masked]> wrote:
-I've looked at sunsite and cound not find any YP/NIS master server software,
-sunsite only has the client software.
-
-Any One Know where I can get the Master Server Software ???

Pick up a copy of NIS-HOWTO at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO
It has all the sites for both client and server software. 
The NIS+ server works great!

BAJ
-
-Thanks in Advance 

-- 
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Marc ter Horst)
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:43:46 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Robert Stockmann) writes:
>From: [email-masked] (Robert Stockmann)
>Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
>Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 22:04:15 GMT

>OK we bought an SCI Indy with the R4000 100MHz and 16 Mb RAM...
>We bought it in oktober '93 so its already "old" however *IT SUCKS*
>It has for instance no external cache.... here is the hinv output:

>logging in on console takes over 1 minute...We use insightII from BIOSYM,
>actually we bought the software (insightII and ...) from BIOSYM, with it
>came the machine for a price of Dfl 20.000,= (US$ 12000,=).
>the system has no c-compiler and I can go on like this for a minute.

>Running insightII is the biggest dissaster happening to you...

>Ok the demo which was installed was alright, but this machine is in practice
>a failure....
An Indy runs Irix5.2 -this is one big OS-  and later and realistically 
needs _at least_ 32 megs of ram to avoid swapping itself to death with any 
big app you run. Likely the swap space isn't configured to size for your 
app either. 
A C-compiler comes with the development option, you pay extra. You'd better 
get your man pages preformatted too.

Marc

>Robert Stockmann
>[email-masked]

>He your email adress is not valid! Ever tried to set up some intelligent
>networking (e.g. sub netting) from within the sysadmin X program on a Indy?
>it doesn't work. So I had to use a normal xterm and vi and some tough hacking
>in those over 500 lines long corrupted scripts (My Linux experience helped
>me out) to get it going...IRIX is certainly not my favorit UNIX...

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