Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #834
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 16:13:33 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #834, Volume #2                Tue, 27 Sep 94 16:13:33 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux software for voice/fax/data (Gert Doering)
  Re: PROMISE DC4030VL-2 IDE Controller (David Boyd)
  256 colors on laptop X
  Drivers for PCI SCSI Adaptors - are there any ? (Chris Lindley)
  Q: mylex dce376 eisa scsi controller (Peter Gerhard)
  Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev) (David K. Merriman)
  Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
  Request info on LINUX books and magazines (Luis Miguel Silveira)
  Re: How Old Is Linus? (Lars Wirzenius)
  Novell OS? (Daniel Andor)
  Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Linux on a 386 (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Wolfgang Szoecs)
  Re: Linux AMD Problems (Timothy Demarest)
  Re: AVI/QT programs? (Dan Newcombe)
  Re: Linux Flame Bait (Jeff Kesselman)
  Help: Quantex??? ([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Gert Doering)
Subject: Re: Linux software for voice/fax/data
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:34:07 GMT

[email-masked] (The Mighty Thor) writes:

>I was interested if there was any such software for people like me with a
>plain ole USR 14.4 fax/modem?  I was hoping it could answer the phone and
>determine the nature of the call and launch the appropiate software, etc.

Due to a major design mistake on USRs side, the "ole USR fax/modem" speaks
only fax class 1, which doesn't support distinguishing fax and data on
incoming calls.

FlexFax has some tricks built in to make the faxd trick the modem into
trying fax first and then data (or the other way round, or round-robin),
but it's not 100 per cent reliable.

gert
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Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             [email-masked]
fax: +49-89-3243328                         [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (David Boyd)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: PROMISE DC4030VL-2 IDE Controller
Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:43:25 GMT

I have already replied directly to the originator of this thread concerning
this but will follow up this response to the net for completeness.

In article <[email-masked]>,
Christian Nelson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I also have one of these controllers, though I only use two drives
>with it... so I'm not going to be much help.  I'm almost positive
>you'll need to acquire the patch that allows you to use two IDE
>controllers simutaneously.  The promise card, as far as using a 3d and
>4th drive is concerned, acts like two controllers.
>
 NO the Promise does not, as reported to me by Promise.  According to
the promise people all 3&4 drive support is done through the primary (i.e
standard) controller IO ports and addresses.  I have the source to 
Promise drivers for ATT & SCO under non-disclosure.  Unfortunately I
have not had the time to do much more than experiment and those
experiments have not been successful.  I know that they read the drive
configurations from the controller nvram but have not successfully be
able to get that to work under Linux.
>
>Have you have any trouble with your controllers, ie: system locking-up
>when doing intensive (disk intensive) activities?  Mine does, but ONLY
>when I have it set on defered write.  Let me know if you also have
>this problem.  I think it might me related to my drive
>configuration... That Promise controller doesn't like WD drives in a
>two drive configuration.

I have two WDs on the primary port of my promise and get occasional
lockups also.  Mine do not appear to be related to heavy disk activity
however.  I would almost suspect a timing problem with defered writes 
(which is more likely to happen under heavy load).

Another thing about the Promise controller is that it does not
support the multisector (hdparm) transfers.  I am ready to sell mine
and just get a generic VL bus controller.
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From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: 256 colors on laptop X
Date: 27 Sep 1994 13:15:58 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

VGA16 seems to be the only mode detected by X when I start up on an NEC
UltraLite. I looked at the sample Xconfigs and found that the toshiba
laptop only listed VGA16 as well. Is there some inherent limitation here
or can I get 256 colors on my laptop? I know it can handle it since
windows runs with 256 colors.

BTW, I was running the UMSDOS kernel 0.3a and the very compact
distribution a[1-2].zip that comes with it. This is a really excellent,
unobtrusive way to get linux running on my laptop's small and partially
used hardrive. Way to go UMS!!

-GSM

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Lindley)
Subject: Drivers for PCI SCSI Adaptors - are there any ?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:13:53 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm wanting to buy a SCSI adaptor and, having a PCI machine (Gateway P5-90),
I would be foolish to buy anything but a PCI card.  Are there any such
cards which have drivers for Linux ?  *Please* !

                                                        Chris.

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From: pge@aifbmozart (Peter Gerhard)
Subject: Q: mylex dce376 eisa scsi controller
Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:35:49 GMT

hello
does an scsi driver exist for the
mylex dce376 eisa scsi controller
any help is wellcome
regards
peter

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From: [email-masked] (David K. Merriman)
Subject: Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:17:52 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans) writes:
>Aside from all that: does anybody know what is involved in getting
>bottles with beer to Finland? I understand that the customs over there
>put so much tax on it that you'd better invite him over to Holland.
>Still I'd want to make a gesture.

>(One of the obvious things to work on is electronic transmission
>of bottles & alcoholic contents by internet)

You mean uuencoding or MIME don't work?  Bummer.

:-)

Dave Merriman

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From: [email-masked] (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:42:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Cornelius Krasel) writes:
>S. Troughton ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: I am new to using Linux and I was wondering what editors/wordprocessors
>: exists. The ones I know about (came with the Slackware distribution) are
>: Emacs (several variants), TeX (lots of different macros), Jove, ed and elvis.
>: I have also invested in Crsip (not working yet).
>
>Editors I know of (I still stick to vi and think of moving to emacs):
>
Additions/corrections:  

>- vi in different flavours (I use vim, there is also elvis and probably others)
>- emacs in different flavours
>- joe (emacs variant?)
>- jove
>- axe
>- ed
>- xedit
>- doc (editor especially for TeX)

doc is NOT an editor for TeX.  Its output is NOT TeX, but more like the save
format that ez uses.  However, doc has no option to print your files.  It is
also unbelievably slow.

addition (my favorite):  asedit -- motif based.  There are otehrs.
>
>Wordprocessors I have heard of :-) (I stick to TeX/LaTeX):
>- Word Perfect (only under SCO emulation)
>- andrew
>- ez
>
andrew = ez

and, BTW, it's a very nice package.

>Maybe we should add a more complete list to the FAQ (if there isn't already
>something on word processing in there).
>
>--Cornelius.
>
>--
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From: [email-masked] (Luis Miguel Silveira)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Request info on LINUX books and magazines
Date: 27 Sep 1994 18:19:02 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi.

I am looking for good reference books and/or magazines that include
descriptions or articles about Linux.  Are there any available?  If a
CD-ROM with the software comes with the book/magazine that would be a
*big* plus.

Please reply by e-mail as I do not follow this newsgroup all the time.

Thank you for your time and attention.

-Miguel

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From: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: How Old Is Linus?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 19:04:15 +0200

[email-masked] (Terence S. Murphy) writes:
> Someone posted a message today which said that Linus doesn't yet have his
> BS degree.  I had always thought that he was a graduate student.  Now I
> realize that it might be possible for him to be a graduate student
> without having a BS, which I suspect is the case.  I know that he started
> working on Linux in 1991, and that would put him as a freshman or younger
> then when he started, which I sort of doubt is the case.  So I'd like to
> know exactly how old he is now and where he's at in school.  I assume 
> several people here know.

Linus is now 24 years young (a puppy, that is), and will be 25 years old
before the end of the year.  He is not a graduate student, which at least
in Finland means that he isn't working on his PhD thesis.  The basic
grade you can get here corresponds to MSc in the US; after the MSc you
can continue to become a PhD.

> Are there any biographies/interviews about Linus besides the ones
> in _Dr. Dobb's_ and _Linux Journal_?

There was one in issue 3 of the ancient Linux News (ftp to ftp.funet.fi
and search below /pub/OS/Linux).

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ftp.cs.helsinki.fi:pub/Software/Local/Publib -- general C function library

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From: [email-masked] (Daniel Andor)
Subject: Novell OS?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 21:37:54 +0000

Hi everyone!

Is the Novell OS to be out by '95 the multiple platform one?
can someone please clarify!
Thanks!

-- 
Daniel Andor  ----- [email-masked] -----

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help.
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 06:57:45 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Yasuo Ohgaki <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Rainer Dorsch ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Alan Cox ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>: ....
>
>: : 12Mb is more than enough for Linux anyway.
>
>: I'm wondering. If I'm running X (fvwm), Emacs with auctex, and  Latex, 
>: compiling a large document, top says that 8meg ram and 4 (of 12) meg swap is
>: used. It is not possible to use Xfig at the same time in a reasonable way. 
>
>: Have I configured something wrong? 
>
>No. 12MB is not enough if you memory intensive task like you do.
>I think more RAM is better. I have 20MB RAM and I want to upgrade
>to 32MB...

And people wonder why I don't run X, its very simple, I can't afford it!!!

Snide comment courtesy of

Jeff Kesselman

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Linux on a 386
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 07:00:40 GMT

In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.940920190840.10825A-100000@gilgalad>,
Rusty Chris  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>I`m running 1.1.22 on a 386sx 16, with 8MB.  before i "acquired" the 8
>MB, though, I always got the kernel panic stuff when i tried to install.
>it`s not too terribly slow, but big compiles, like the kernel, still take
>a good hour or two.  BTW, i`m looking to upgrade- does anyone have 
>an idea of which would be better: a 486slc40 or a 386dx40 w/CP ?
>i`m sure it depends a lot on the applications, but does anyone have a
>general idea?
>-rusty holleman ([email-masked])

Well, you are complaining abotu kernel compiels.  For a compiler, a math 
co-processor is useless, so Ild opt for the improved micrcode and caching 
of a 486.  (Note however that NOT all 486's are equal.  The IBM 
blue-lightening 486 for instance, is really a 386 with improved caching.  
it does NOt have the improved micrcode and runs somewhere btw a 386 and 486
in performance....)

jeff Kesselman

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From: [email-masked] (Wolfgang Szoecs)
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:17:16 GMT

: 2. SGI Indy does not cost ~3 times more than a top of the line DELL.
:    Let's look at the numbers, shall we:

:       Dell XPS 90, 16Meg ram, 17" monitor, #9 graphics card,
:         CD Rom Drive, 1G IDE disk, ethernet card, 3 year warranty.
:         Price: ~$4400

:       SGI Indy, 16 Meg Ram, 17" monitor, accelerated graphics
:         1G FAST SCSI Drive, ethernet, CCD camera, 3 year warranty.
:         Price: ~$6500

:    You should note the the Indy has a MIPS R4600 processor, which is
:    much faster than Pentium.  Also, the SCSI Drive is faster and more
:    expandable than the Dell IDE.  Overall, the Indy will have much
:    higher throughput and lower price/performance.

But don't forget the costs for the OS-Support !!! 
IRIX 5.2 is a buggy piece of shit. It only looks good (i'm using it).
But the applications we use (CAD ...) are really fine. :-)

So every machine (PC or a WS) has its advantage:
If you are looking for a good application, and then the hardware it needs,
SGI should be a good choice.

If you buy first a computer and search after that for the right application,
then have to buy a PC or Nintendo.
But this isn't called a solution. - It's a game.

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From: [email-masked] (Timothy Demarest)
Subject: Re: Linux AMD Problems
Date: 26 Sep 1994 06:24:50 GMT

Sean Watkins ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Hi,

: After labouring several hours to get AMD working, I have come to the
: ultimate conclusion that AMD coupled with NIS under Linux is broken.
: Following example summarizes:

< STUFF ABOUT AMD DELETED >
: -- 
: Sean Watkins 
: [email-masked]

Sean:

I am running AMD here on Linux, and if you look in one of the
Makefiles (I can't remember which) it says that LINUX DOES NOT
SUPPORT NIS MAPS (YET)!  AGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I about freaked out when I read this, after several frustrating
hours.  Rule #1: Read all stuff.

Hope this helps!  Anyone know when amd *will* support NIS
maps?

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Newcombe)
Subject: Re: AVI/QT programs?
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:23:41 UNDEFINED

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mike Castle) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]>, Bob <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>i read somewhere that there are AVI and Quicktime viewers for Xwindows.  have
>>any of them been ported to XFree?  if so, where are they?  if not, does anyone
>>know where any of the non-ported programs are located?
>The program is xanim.  I've seen mention of someone doing a port
>with sound support and everything (was mostly doing work on the
>sound, animation works fine I believe).  I suppose checking the
>usual places (ie, sunsite.unc.edu and tsx-11.mit.edu) should turn
>something up.

Look for a copy of xanim.  It should have in the docs the location of where to 
always find the most up-to-date version.  Version 2.69 supports sound.  While 
I can run .avi's and .mov's under X, the Quicktimes are the only ones with 
sound support.  Works great though - and this is on a 386-33 w/ 8 M.

A lot of this can be attributed to X Shared Memory extensions.

        -Dan

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Linux Flame Bait
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 07:04:47 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jon Nash <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>If anyone can help me get my printer to printer I would be _very_ greatful!
>My thesis ultimately rides on this :)  (and yes, I'm choosing to use LaTeX
>over WordPerfect or Microsoft Word)
>

I just got my Qume HP laserjet clone (very old, a 50lb printer) working 
tonight.  Its got a serial interface.  What kind of interface does yours 
have? Post or send me some details and Ild be happy to help.

Jeff Kesselman
[email-masked]
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Help: Quantex???
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 23:36:52 CST

Hello all...  If you have any experiences that you are willing to
share regarding Quantex's Pentium 60 system, please e-mail them
to me: [email-masked]
 
many thanks
JRoge

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