Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #842
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Linux-Misc Digest #842, Volume #2                Thu, 29 Sep 94 06:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: New Linux Distribution (Joseph W. Vigneau)
  Cirrus Logic 5428 ! (Dragon Ball Z)
  Re: How Old Is Linus? (Gary Paul Gortmaker)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Richard Park)
  Play sound software !! (Confident Man)
  Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? (Philip Balister)
  Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: i486-????-linux (was Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (MS-DOS lives!)) (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (Sergei Naoumov)
  SB Pro 2.0 8 bit stereo / Mitsumi FX001D CD-Rom & Workman Volume ??? (Rasquin Jean-Pierre)
  MOST 4.40 available ([email-masked])
  ParcPlace OI builder?? (David A. Vohwinkel)
  Re: Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play Linux: Fall 1994 "revB" floppy (Eric J. DeVolder)
  Re: ParcPlace OI builder?? (NightHawk)
  Re: where to get the texbook (Cornelius Krasel)
  CD-ROM Writer (David_Kyte)
  Re: New Linux Distribution (Charles Liu)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? ([email-masked])
  Re: Emacs & latex for thesis (Lewis Perin)

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From: [email-masked] (Joseph W. Vigneau)
Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
Date: 28 Sep 1994 22:02:41 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Juana Moreno <[email-masked]> wrote:
>       - Defaults to SINGLE USER mode. No need to show the complications
>               of multiuser accounts to newbies who will likely use it
>               personally.

Well, remember, this is one of the most powerful aspects of Linux... If
people prefer DOS/Windows, let them stay...

>Well, that's my idea. I'd like to hear comments before I start packaging 
>everything, because if you think this is useless I'd like to know before
>I waste my time. All suggestions will be appreciated.

It would be much prettier if you can make a nice 'pointy-clicky' install
program using vgalib...

-- 
[email-masked], [email-masked]          WPI Computer Science     Linux!
    <a href="http://www.wpi.edu:8080/~joev"> Click Here! </a>

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From: [email-masked] (Dragon Ball Z)
Subject: Cirrus Logic 5428 !
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 05:08:55 GMT

My computer is using Cirrus Logic 5428 Display Card!

Anyone out there knows how to set the "Xconfig" file in Linux in order to execute Xwindows successfully?

Thx. a lot!

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From: [email-masked] (Gary Paul Gortmaker)
Subject: Re: How Old Is Linus?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 02:17:48 +1000

[email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin) writes:

>His exact birthdate is encoded in the kernel.  (I am not telling
>where, though.)

...vegetarians watch out. There is a lot of dead beef in there too.  :-)

Paul.

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From: [email-masked] (Richard Park)
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: 28 Sep 1994 12:32:40 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
S. Joel Katz <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>Is there a correct pronunciation?
>       There is a correct pronunciation and an incorrect pronunciation. 
>The 'I' is short. Linux almost rhymes with 'shucks'. Or, if you prefer 
>'Lih-nuhks'.

This is the topic of a religious war.  If you look at older versions of the
FAQ, it says the correct pronunciation is the one specified above.  But in
more recent versions, it seems to have changed so that the "i" is a long vowel.
I pronounce it the second way, but I don't think I would hate you if you
pronounced it the first way. 8~)

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From: [email-masked] (Confident Man)
Subject: Play sound software !!
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:40:10 GMT

I want to kwow where I can find useful sound software for Linux.
Playing and recording any format sound.

Hope advance help
Thanks.

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From: [email-masked] (Philip Balister)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 12:25:20 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Po-Han Lin ([email-masked]) wrote:
: If one has a pc compatible with a 486, which OS is the best unix
: operating system?  QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?  

It depends. Since you haven't listed any requirements and I find linux
very good, I say Linux. If you want better advice tell us what you want
to use it for.

Philip
---
Linux: The Choice of a GNU generation!

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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 22:23:42 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Alexander Bottema)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> I've always wondered why security is a less important issue among the
> industry and the masses? Is it acceptable that you actually have to
> REBOOT your computer? Is it acceptable that the operating system can
> potentionally crash due to an error in an application? People must be
> smarter than that? Or aren't they? Are they simply paralyzed by the
> shaded buttons and the fancy icons?
> 

Let's not forget the Microsoft-owned trade rags...

        /hpa
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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: i486-????-linux (was Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (MS-DOS lives!))
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 22:27:04 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Mr D R Barlow)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> Yes.  Thanks.  I should have thought of that -- I upgraded emacs only
> the other day.
> 
> On a more general note: can we change it?  'unknown' smacks of 'I'm
> guessing here'.  I know that you can spec it manually to be whatever
> you want (my emacs binary is 'i486-opus-linux') -- the basic question
> is *what*.
> 
> First off, we're not all using the same vendor, and I guess many Linux
> users built their own system anyway.  Second, the vendor doesn't
> matter worth a damn anyway (from an emacs compilation point of view,
> that is).  So we need a vendor-neutral term that describes i486 linux
> systems.  My suggestion is prompted by listening and reading the way
> which other linux users refer to their computers, and hence I propose
> 
>   i486-box-linux
> 
> I'm off to recompile emacs etc now...
> 

The convention (for good reason, since things are slightly different
on all Linuxes) is to have i[345]86-<distribution>-linux; for example:

i486-slackware-linux
i386-debian-linux
i586-yggdrasil-linux

... etc ...

If you are putting together your own distribution following the Linux
Filesystems Standard, I would suggest:

i486-fsstnd-linux or just i486-linux (since the middle is optional,
and is substituted internally by "unknown").

        /hpa

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From: [email-masked] (Sergei Naoumov)
Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
Date: 27 Sep 1994 12:24:05 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (MacGyver) writes:
>TeX...I've got a few questions about that.  Is there a good TeX editor?  If
>so, WHERE?  Are there TeX converters from say ASCII to TeX or vice versa?
>If so WHERE?  I'd like to find a good TeX editor (preferrably X based) and
>get it running, however, I seem to be running into brick walls whenever I
>try to find any information about it.

Hey, TeX is a typesetting system. There is NO WAY of converting FROM
ASCII to TeX's code just because there is nothing to convert. I presume,
though that you have an ASCII file that you want to print using TeX. Then
you have to read a good book about TeX and look for a basic structure of
a document.

One more thing: TeX is a LANGUAGE! There is no a specific editor for TeX.
Typing TeX's file can be done in ANY editor. If you want something like
MS Word, you won't get it as nobody ever bothered writing a WYSIWYG
interface to TeX -- it would require a tremendous number of menus and
function keys.

        Sergei

-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+   Sergei O. Naoumov  [email-masked]  tel: (919)962-3998   +
+Department of Physics & Astronomy, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA+
+++++++++++ http://sunsite.oit.unc.edu/sergei/Me/Serge.html +++++++++++

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From: [email-masked] (Rasquin Jean-Pierre)
Subject: SB Pro 2.0 8 bit stereo / Mitsumi FX001D CD-Rom & Workman Volume ???
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:54:19 GMT

Hi,

I'm just unable to change the volume with workman (or any other prog I haven't 
found yet ;-) ) ? This does work for a friend having a SB 32ASP and SCSI 
CD-Rom (attached to his Adaptec 1542, but I don't think this matters, it's 
the SB that should play with the volume settings)...

Any clue ?

Regards, JP.

PS: Is there something like the SB Mixer (for Windoze) for X ?

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From: [email-masked]
Crossposted-To: vmsnet.misc,comp.os.vms
Subject: MOST 4.40 available
Date: 28 Sep 1994 22:37:27 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,

  Most version 4.40 is now ready.  It is available only from
amy.tch.harvard.edu in pub/most.

  What is most?  Most is a more/less type paging program for Unix and VMS 
  that:
      
      0.  All standard more/less features (edit, search, etc...)
      1.  Pages Up, Down, Left, and Right
      2.  Supports multiple windows as well as ``locking'' windows.  Locked
          windows scroll together.
      3.  User definable keybindings
      4.  Secure mode: no editing and looking at files not specified on the
          command line.
      5.  Selective display (folding).  For example, you can display the C
          code 
          
             int main (int argc, char **argv)
             {
                if (argc == 1) {
                  fprintf (stderr, "Not enough arguments\n");
                  exit 0;
                } else {
                  real_main (argc, argv);
                }
                return 0;
             }
             
           as:
           
             int main (int argc, char **argv)
             {
                if (argc == 1) {...
                } else {...
                }
                return 0;
             }

          or:
          
             int main (int argc, char **argv)
             {...
             }

   and much more.
   
  Enjoy,  
--
     _____________
#___/John E. Davis\_________________________________________________________
#
# internet: [email-masked]
#   bitnet: davis@ohstpy
#   office: 617-735-6746
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [email-masked] (David A. Vohwinkel)
Subject: ParcPlace OI builder??
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:13:35 GMT

Does anyone know what happened to OI from ParcPlace ??  I haven't heard
anything about it? IS it still available? Anyone know where it is?
and can you buy any manuals for it?

        Thanks

-- 
  David A Vohwinkel        
Unix Consulting   ^ ^     [email-masked]
  & Operations    0 0    @ The State University of New York at Buffalo   
==============oOO=(_)=OOo====================================================

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From: [email-masked] (Eric J. DeVolder)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play Linux: Fall 1994 "revB" floppy
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 11:57:40 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Daniel Quinlan) writes:
|> Note: this post should only concern Yggdrasil users who have the Sony
|> CDU-33A or the SonyCDU-31A CD-ROM drive.
|> 
|> We identified a kernel problem (a null pointer was being deferenced)
|> in the driver for the Sony CDU-33A and CDU-33A shortly after the
|> release of our Fall 1994 CD-ROM.  To fix the problem we released a
|> revision B boot floppy which is available via anonymous FTP at
|> ftp.yggdrasil.com (192.216.244.52) in /pub/fall94/revB.
|> 
|> This bug (and the fix) has been reported to Linus Torvalds.  Complete
|> source code for the revB kernel is also available in the same
|> directory as the boot floppy image.
|> 
|> If you lack FTP access, we are able to mail a floppy to users of the
|> and CDU-31A and CDU-33A drive.  If you plan on ordering and you have a
|> CDU-31A or CDU-33A drive, tell us and we'll make certain that you get
|> the fixed floppy.
|> 
|> In addition, the Fall 1994 errata is complete, as far as I know.
|> Please get it *first* if you are having any problems.  It is available
|> through:
|> 
|>  - anonymous FTP from ftp.yggdrasil.com (192.216.244.52) in
|>    /pub/fall94/errata.
|> 
|>  - electronic mail autoreply from <[email-masked]>.
|>    (If this doesn't work, mail me -- I just set this up a few days ago.)
|> 
|> We also have the following two technical support options available:
|> 
|>  - The 900 number (900-446-6075 x835 U.S. only) for our general Linux
|>    consulting line (yes, we've helped people using other distributionse
|>    too).  It costs $2.95 a minute and operates from 9:00 to 5:00 PDT.
|> 
|>  - Call our sales line and arrange either a $25 one call support (best
|>    described as "one problem as best we can help you or 15 minutes of
|>    our time, whichever is longer").  We also can arrange long-term
|>    consulting.
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: [email-masked]
|> Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.

-- 

--Eric DeVolder                      MS 124-211
  [email-masked]          x8757
  Rockwell Avionics -- Collins       Cedar Rapids, IA

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From: [email-masked] (NightHawk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: ParcPlace OI builder??
Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:15:40 -0400

David A. Vohwinkel ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Does anyone know what happened to OI from ParcPlace ??  I haven't heard
: anything about it? IS it still available? Anyone know where it is?
: and can you buy any manuals for it?

The old OI binaries were compiled with g++ 2.4.5, which is not compatible
with the new one. But the new one couldn't compile it. I was told they
will make a new binary for a working gcc 2.6.x.

NH

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From: [email-masked] (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: Re: where to get the texbook
Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:38:32 GMT

Hans Petter Fasteng ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I hope to learn how to make docs in tex, I also hoped to make info pages and
: I think I need the texbook to do this.  Where can I get this book or books?

You appear to be in Norway. Check out a bookstore in a bigger city; especially
good are stores specialised in computer books or university bookstores.

In Germany it is also possible to order books through any bookstore.

--Cornelius.

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From: [email-masked] (David_Kyte)
Subject: CD-ROM Writer
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:16:37 +0000

     Does anybody know of, or has contacts with any body that has written 
     to a CD-ROM writer under Linux
     
     I have a SCSI 1542C interface card, and have not yet bought the Writer
     (suggestions?)
     
     Any help would be appreciated
     
     please mail to [email-masked]
     
     When I have succeeded I will put together a HOW-TO if any body else is 
     interested or at least put together a synopsis.
     
     Thanks

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From: Charles Liu <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:43:59 GMT

As a major Linux CD-ROM reseller, we would like to have this distribution 
to expand the user coverage.

Charles Liu
Universal CD-ROM
-- 
End of Note

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:42:40 GMT

[email-masked] (David Ransier) writes:
>Distribution: world
>Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: davidr.wv
>I've heard two pronunciations of Linux, both are variations of the "i" sound.
>My natural tendancy is to pronounce the "i" like "hi".  The other common
>pronunciation has the "i" sound like "in".
>Is there a correct pronunciation?
Good question.  The FAQ *used* to recommend the "i" as in "in."  And that
is how I pronounced it for ~6 months.  Then the FAQ changed its mind :)
and now asserts that the "i" as in "hi."  This is based on the .au file
that Linus put out and is alledgedly based on Linus' Sweedish/Norwegian
accent.  But my ears don't work as well as the FAQs author and I think
one can legitimately construe the .au file as the "in" pronunciation.
So I've given up and choose to pronounce it both ways (though usually
with the "in"-like sound).  At any rate I no longer "correct" others
when they "mis"pronounce it :)
>Thanks,
>David Ransier
>+++++++++++++

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From: [email-masked] (Lewis Perin)
Subject: Re: Emacs & latex for thesis
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 18:40:42 EST

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Darin Johnson) writes:
>From: [email-masked] (Darin Johnson)
>Subject: Re: Emacs & latex for thesis
>Date: 27 Sep 1994 19:26:49 GMT

>> : :    The real question is: Why would you want to write a THESIS on emax and 
>> : :    latex?

>> LaTeX also does a far better job of typsetting (especially math stuff)
>> than any of the WYSIWYG packages that I've tried.  Most of the WYSIWYG
>> stuff I've tried doesn't even support ligatures.

>LaTeX does automatic reference citation and links in with
>your bibliography database.  Very few other packages do that
>(I think scribe does).  This is VITAL for a thesis!

>It also automatically keeps numbers straight if you move stuff
>around, so that you can refer to a certain section without
>knowing what page it is on, and so forth (a few others do this,
>but it's still relatively rare).
>--
>Darin Johnson
>[email-masked]
>    "Are you a doctor?"   "No, but I watched."

Want another reason?  If your thesis is in computer science, as mine was, you 
might want it to be in the form of a "literate program", i.e. a source file 
that can be transformed by 2 different filter programs into a compilable 
program and a LaTeX script including (among possibly other things) a 
gorgeously prettyprinted version of the code.  That's what I did, using FWEB, 
one of several "literate programming" systems inspired by Donald Knuth's work; 
I used Emacs too, by the way.  And: it was accepted.

      __          [email-masked] (212)746-2946
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