Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #853
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 23:13:33 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #853, Volume #2                Fri, 30 Sep 94 23:13:33 EDT

Contents:
  Re: where to get the texbook (Mark P. Nelson)
  Vixie cron and MAILTO (Dan Swartzendruber)
  Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Alan Cox)
  Hardcard IIXL and Linux (Bill Jaeger)
  New unix new GUI (Sami Cokar)
  New Linux Distribution (Juana Moreno)
  Re: How Old Is Linus? (Matt Welsh)
  Database with ODBC (Juergen Mueller)
  A couple simple questions (Nathan Dwyer)
  Setting 16550AFN Trigger Level -- HOW? (Naji M. Khudairi)
  Re: ParcPlace OI builder?? (Karl Keyte)
  Re: free unix software (Uwe Bonnes)
  Re: driver for NE3200 (EtherExpress 32 EISA)? (Jochen Roth)
  Re: Usenet groups via SLIP (Sven Goldt)
  Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev) (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (Matthias Bruestle)
  Re: Tierra on Linux (Robert Gasch)
  Are any of the Linux supporet site NFS mountable? (Alan Hightower)
  Re: New Linux Distribution (David - Morris)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Re: Mosaic w/ term AND wais support (Fric)

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From: [email-masked] (Mark P. Nelson)
Subject: Re: where to get the texbook
Date: 30 Sep 1994 16:27:22 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hans Petter Fasteng ([email-masked]) wrote:

:   thank you all for your help, strange that it is not anny doc with tex
: latex or texinfo distributions since all other GNU software is so well
: documented.  I will look around and see what I find.

With my distribution I got a file buried somewhere under /usr/TeX called
Gentle.tex.gz, which contains a well-written and gentle introductory
tutorial to TeX.  You can get started on very nice document preparation
using this alone, before going out and spending money on manuals.

--
Mark P. Nelson ([email-masked])
                         While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once,
                         to go on making the same lethal errors century after
                         century seems to me nothing short of deliberate.--V.

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Swartzendruber)
Subject: Vixie cron and MAILTO
Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:40:30 GMT

I'm having something kind of strange with certain cron jobs.  I've
got a number of entries in my personal crontab to send me email as
a reminder to do various things.  What is weird is that although I
explicitly specify 'MAILTO=' in my crontab, certain job seem to cause
me to get email anyway.  The only common thing I've noticed is that
the reminder jobs are set up like the following:

0 15 * * Sat echo xxx | mail -s 'Do incremental backup' dswartz

Could the pipe be causing problems?  I'd added the 'xxx' to the
echo command to avoid the silly 'Empty message body' warning,
figuring that might be causing it.  Nope.  I'm about on the verge
of adding a mail alias for 'devnull' specifying the bit-bucket,
and adding that to all of the MAILTO directives.  Can anyone shed
light on this?

-- 

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

Dan S.

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From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:38:42 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Edwards) writes:
>Hmmm... maybe the load balancing stuff could do this... (I have no idea
>how much of the load-balancing stuff has been implemented, or how stable
>it is...)... If you could set up routing tables at both ends for this, it
>seems like it would probibly work. (Famous last words, I know... :) )

It's in, it should work. You'll need the ifslave program to try it out
and probably to do a bit of hackery with dip etc to set it up. Email me
if you want the bits

Alan

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Jaeger)
Subject: Hardcard IIXL and Linux
Date: 30 Sep 94 04:36:58 GMT

Howdy!

I was wondering if anyone knew of a driver that would allow a Plus Hardcard 
IIXL to be used with Linux?

I'd like to bring Linux up on an old 386 which has a Hardcard in it.

Thanks in advance!

-Bill

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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
From: [email-masked] (Sami Cokar)
Subject: New unix new GUI
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:54:24 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Corey Brenner <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Bjorn Kihlberg ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Chris ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: : Jeez - I hadn't realized that Linus had such a loyal following ;)
>
>: : Chris
>
>: But of course! Not anyone would get the idea to start a new .NIX (*NUX?) and
>: manage to make it better than all the others combined! :)
[...]
>Corey Brenner

Now,
        if only someone would design a FD interface that isn't 
        based on millions of layers....

                                        Sami

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usig - Sami Cokar - [email-masked] - "humourous,yet witty, quote"
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From: [email-masked] (Juana Moreno)
Subject: New Linux Distribution
Date: 28 Sep 1994 06:00:03 -0400

I have been thinking of putting up a new Linux distribution especially
oriented to DOS-Win dummies. I have taken a nontraditional approach and
am willing to sacrifice many of the sacred cows of Unix. I really think 
that many features of traditional unix are not very useful in a typical
home pc context. However, clearly Linux has many advantages over Dos-Win
if care is taken for keeping a reasonably small distribution. That way,
Dos-Win users can discover the power of Linux without feeling overwhelmed.
I'd like to include a short and concise guide that highlights the major
differences between dos-win and Linux-Xfree86, something of the sort of
the book "Unix in a Nutshell" but much shorter. A possible title could be
"Unix (Linux) in a Pinhead: an introduccion to Unix for Dos users" (grin).

My distribution, tentatively called "WIn-dos Transition" (WIT), would have
the following features:
        - Defaults to SINGLE USER mode. No need to show the complications
                of multiuser accounts to newbies who will likely use it
                personally.
        - Only one shell: bash, with lots of aliases that match as closely
                as possible the COMMAND.COM commands and the utilities in
                the DOS directory. Maybe it won't be very difficult to 
                include a .BAT->.sh translator.
        - Only enough utilities to match the functionality of the DOS
                standard utilities plus the major unix winners like 
                grep, awk and sed. (But not vi or emacs!!!).
        - NO NETWORKING, except for maybe a terminal program (minicom) and
                a mostly configured SLIP (client side only). In that case,
                maybe Mosaic should be also included.
        -NO SCSI. Most home dos-win users don't even know what SCSI is.
        -XFree 3.1 configured to use the VGA16 server (mono or color) with
                a generic (low resolution) Xconfig.
        - Utilities to match the standard Windows applets:
                Winfile -> Xfm-1.3
                Progman -> Xfm-1.3
                Notepad -> Axe (?)
                Write   -> Ez
                Terminal -> Minicom (Seyon?)
                Mediaplay -> ?????
                Dos windows -> Xterm,rxvt (of course !!!)
                Whatelse??? 
        - Only one window manager: FVWM
        - No developing tools.
        - The binaries should fit (gzipped) in 10 1.44 floppies.

The idea is that this will not be the final Linux distribution that 
the users will have, but only a "transitional" distribution that lets
them get the feeling of the power of Linux in an environment as much familiar
to them as possible. Therefore, the distribution will be compatible with
Slackware "packages", so that an upgrade (when the fear is left behind) will
be very smooth.

Well, that's my idea. I'd like to hear comments before I start packaging 
everything, because if you think this is useless I'd like to know before
I waste my time. All suggestions will be appreciated.

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From: [email-masked] (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: How Old Is Linus?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:40:25 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Sean A. Long) writes:
>
>>|asmlinkage int sys_reboot(int magic, int magic_too, int flag)
>>|{
>>|      if (!suser())
>>|              return -EPERM;
>>|      if (magic != 0xfee1dead || magic_too != 672274793)
>>|                                               ^^^^^^^^^
>>|              return -EINVAL;
>>|      if (flag == 0x01234567) {
>
>
>Forgive me for being paranoid, since I don't know what this section of code 
>does... Is this a backdoor?

No, look at the first line. It's sys_reboot(). You have to give it a magic
number in order to reboot the system. This is to prevent, for example, 
people from calling sys_reboot without knowing what they're doing, or, 
say, a stack-squasher which causes sys_reboot() to be called accidentally. 

I don't know of any backdoors in the Linux kernel, except, of
course, the one where logging in with the username "linus" causes
the machine to hang.

M. Welsh

(For the uninitiated, that was a _joke_.)

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From: [email-masked] (Juergen Mueller)
Subject: Database with ODBC
Date: 28 Sep 1994 13:57:20 GMT

Hi!

I'm looking for a database for Linux with the possibilty to connect it
via ODBC from a Windows application.

Any suggestions?

Best regards,
/J

=====================================================================
Juergen Mueller                                      Tel: 0731-722426
Kasernstr.14       prodata-Ingenieurbuero            Fax: 0731-722423
D-89231 Neu-Ulm    Xlink-PoP Ulm/Neu-Ulm, Germany  [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Nathan Dwyer)
Subject: A couple simple questions
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:36:03 GMT

Hi.

I'm just getting into Linux, and liking it a whole lot. I just have a few 
problems so far I was wondering if anyone could help me with.

I printed once.  No CR.  I tried changing some of the printcap around, no 
luck.  I changed it back.  Now, when I lpd something, all I get are blank 
pages.  I'm currently using the generic printer entry.  I have a Laserjet 
4ML.

Secondly, I can't receive files over the modem with minicom.  The blue 
receive box comes up, pauses for a bit, then dissapears.  If I use xmodem 
and switch to a shell to run rz -vv I get the error that it can't open 
/var/adm/szlog.  I made a dummy szlog, and even changed the group 
ownership from root to users, but no luck.

Can anyone give me some pointers to help, or any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
nathan

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From: [email-masked] (Naji M. Khudairi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Setting 16550AFN Trigger Level -- HOW?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 02:49:43 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

How do I set the trigger level in the 16550 chip under Linux?  I don't know
what the default is, but I am still getting massive receive overruns.  I have
hardware flow control set and the port is open at 57600.  Any ideas?
Much thanks in advance.  Please reply via email, as I am moving over the 
next few days and will have my computer boxed away.

Sincerely,
--Naji

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 11:07:24 +0100
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [email-masked] (Karl Keyte)
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: ParcPlace OI builder??

David A. Vohwinkel ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what happened to OI from ParcPlace ??  I haven't heard
> anything about it? IS it still available? Anyone know where it is?
> and can you buy any manuals for it?

They're planning to release a new version as soon as there are new, stable
versions of the kernel (I guess 1.2), gcc (2.6.x), the libraries (4.6.x) and
XFree (3.1).  They should all happen reasonably soon, so some time after
that we can expect the next version.

Karl

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From: [email-masked] (Uwe Bonnes)
Subject: Re: free unix software
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 22:40:09 GMT

Rick Reilly ([email-masked]) wrote:
> I am looking for free software which I can compile and/or run on linux.
> The packages I am interested in are CAD, speadsheets, and word processors.
> Applications running under X are preferred.  I would appreciate either the
> location of a particular package or a site containing many packages.

sunsite.unc.edu, export.lcs.mit.edu 
-- 
Uwe Bonnes  [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,de.comp.os.linux
From: [email-masked] (Jochen Roth)
Subject: Re: driver for NE3200 (EtherExpress 32 EISA)?
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 07:27:57 GMT

Donald Becker ([email-masked]) wrote:

: The AC3200 driver is for the Ansel Communications EISA ethercard based on a
: shared memory 8390. 

: It's unrelated to the NE3200, which will probably never have a Linux driver.

: Both are unrelated to the Intel EtherExpress32.

As far as I know, the EE32 and the later versions of the NE3200 are identical.

And then, the AC3200 driver should also work with the Mylex LNE390, the Eagle
3210, and the CNET 902, to name just a few.

The only difference from model to model is the table that translates the
config byte at slot+0C90 into the shared memory and interrupt selection
values.

--
        Jochen Roth
        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: Usenet groups via SLIP
Date: 28 Sep 1994 10:59:41 GMT

Dan Halverson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: minutes waiting for mail.  What I would like to do is set up an NNTP news
: transfer program to accept the groups I follow down to my Linux machine. 

Right now i finally fixed suck. suck will get newsgroups via NNTP
and lpost will post the articles to your local newsserver
(you need rnews in /usr/local/lib/news/bin/input).
Mail me if you want to give it a try.

--
*****************************************************************************
*    # THE MOST IMPORTANT FINANCIAL QUESTION IS:  Where is the money ? #    *
*****************************************************************************

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From: [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans)
Subject: Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev)
Date: 28 Sep 1994 09:45:21 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans) writes:
>>Aside from all that: does anybody know what is involved in getting
>>bottles with beer to Finland? I understand that the customs over there
...
>>(One of the obvious things to work on is electronic transmission
>>of bottles & alcoholic contents by internet)
>
> If you manage this, let me know, cause I'd like to download pizza! (I
>know there's already the  Pizza Hut WWW but  they dont deliver to Åbo,
>Finland :-( )

Sorry. Pizzas are scheduled for patchlevel 234.

Paai.

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From: [email-masked] (Matthias Bruestle)
Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 19:13:33 GMT

Mahlzeit

> Editors I know of (I still stick to vi and think of moving to emacs):

> - ed
Where can I get a not crippled ed (u undo) and the dox?

                                Mahlzeit

-- 
A leap ahead... through insanity.

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Gasch)
Subject: Re: Tierra on Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:09:27 GMT

Hi, 

I saved this from some old post (but have never tried it ...):

[ Tierra is an artificial life and evolution simulator for various
platforms. Here's how to port it to Linux.   -mdw ]

If you have SLS you can get Tierra going just by uncommenting the
Sys V lines in the Makefile and changing -lm to -lsoft (or -lhard for
someone with a math coprocessor). Then type

make programs

and it works.

Sources available by ftp from tierra.slhs.udel.edu and life.slhs.udel.edu

b. morley

zachary brown ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi! Has anyone got Tierra (or any other AI/ALife program) working under
: Linux, and if so could you tell me where to get it and how to build it
: (if it requires special building for Linux)?

: Thanks.

: -ZB-

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From: ahightow@comp..uark.edu (Alan Hightower)
Subject: Are any of the Linux supporet site NFS mountable?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:48:55 GMT

    I was wanting to archive the various Linux sites on 1GB read/write
optical drives.  It would be easier than ftp'ing if I could NFS mount
the various archive sites and do a cp -r.

Any ideas??

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From: [email-masked] (David - Morris)
Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
Date: 29 Sep 1994 07:06:53 GMT

Whatever else you do, if you scribble notes to the future on the screen,
make sure you also provide hard copy or make it very obvious where to
find those notes later.  I hate having to write down all that helpful
hint stuff install programs like to flash at me.

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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 30 Sep 1994 04:03:42 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Fric)
Subject: Re: Mosaic w/ term AND wais support
Date: 27 Sep 1994 21:03:00 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Bob Leap <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Where can I find Mosaic with term (prefer bin2) with proper
>support for wais url's?  

Hmm, I uploaded a Mosaic with term and direct wais support to sunsite last
month, it was in Incoming for a few days then disappeared. Then my internet
link broke and I haven't been able to send any files by ftp. If anyone wants
the files by e-mail let me know.

 699k Mosaic-2.4+l10n+term.tar.gz
 682k Mosaic-2.4+termnew.tar.gz

Both are compiled to work with both term and normal TCP link using the
same bin. The "l10n" version is the multi-localization version, supports
various foreign languages.

(I also have a beta Lynx 2.3.3 beta with term and direct wais support if
anyone wants it.)

-Fric
[email-masked]
http://ksc.au.ac.th:8000/

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