Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #860
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 16:13:16 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #860, Volume #2                 Sat, 1 Oct 94 16:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux goes commercial (Phil Hughes)
  Re: Request info on LINUX books and magazines (Phil Hughes)
  Re: Which distributors to use (Phil Hughes)
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Jiann-Ming Su)
  Pixmaps (Bill McCarthy)
  Re: [ppp] (Tina Golini)
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Steve Wilson)
  Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? (Thomas G. McWilliams)
  Re: New Linux Distribution (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: New Linux Distribution (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Lover Man)
  gcc 2.6.0 [Re: GCC (templates) on Linux] (NightHawk)

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From: [email-masked] (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Linux goes commercial
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:51:23 GMT

Champ Clark ([email-masked]) wrote:

:       My boss swears up and down that he read somewhere that Linux
:       is no longer going to be a "free" (when I say that,  I mean, 
:       you dont have to buy it.. you can FTP it) anymore.  He states
:       that the author (linus) has decided to make "linux" a commerical
:       product. 

This just can't happen.  That is, what Linux is today is free and under
GPL so you can have it.  There are certainly commercial packages that run
under Linux and such (see the ads in Linux Journal) but that is a totally
different matter.

--
Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
usually [email-masked], sometimes [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: [email-masked] (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Request info on LINUX books and magazines
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:09:36 GMT

Luis Miguel Silveira ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I am looking for good reference books and/or magazines that include
: descriptions or articles about Linux.  Are there any available?  If a
: CD-ROM with the software comes with the book/magazine that would be a
: *big* plus.

There is, of course Linux Journal (blurb below).  As for books there is
Thomas Uhl's book that has a couple of titles (and is in German and
English), Matt Welsh's _Linux Installation and Getting Started_, Olaf
Kirch's _Linux Network Administrator's Guide_ and, all the How-Tos.

SSC has published both Matt Welsh's and Olaf Kirch's books in
perfect-bound versions ($12.95 and $18.95 respectively.  Send e-mail to
[email-masked], call 206-527-3385 or fax 206-527-2806 to request a complete
SSC catalog.  The info below is on Linux Journal.

+--------------+    P.O. Box 85867 * Seattle, WA * 98145-1867 * USA
|    Linux     |  (206)524-8338 * fax: (206)526-0803 * [email-masked]
|   Journal    |   Subscriptions: (206) 527-3385 FAX: (206) 527-2806
+--------------+

                        LINUX JOURNAL FAQ
                             6/23/94

This  FAQ  contains information about Linux Journal, the magazine
covering the Linux Community. Topics covered are:
  o general/history
  o content
  o subscriptions
  o writing for LJ
  o advertising in LJ
  o Linux-related product releases
  o consultants directory
  o distributors/retailers
  o misc
  o if all else fails ...

General/History

We see our mission as serving the Linux community  while  working
to  promote  the  use of Linux. Although most of our initial sub-
scribers have come from the Internet we expect half of our future
readers  will  find  LJ as their initial source of information on
Linux. This means that LJ can provide a way for  people  to  find
hardware,  software  and help in getting themselves going. We see
this as a benefit to the Linux newsgroups  by  reducing  "newbie"
questions as well to our advertisers by providing them with a new
way to reach potential new users.

The idea for producing Linux Journal arose in early 1993. In late
February, 1994 we mailed our first issue. The magazine received a
very positive response - both on the Internet and elsewhere.  Is-
sue #4, the August issue, will be released in mid-July.

SSC,  publisher  of  Unix  and  C  pocket references for over ten
years, is now the publisher, with Phil Hughes having the  overall
responsibility  for  the complete publication. Phil's 11 years in
publishing and 15 years of experience with Unix will  be  applied
to  ensure  the  quality of the publication as well as its promo-
tion.

Michael K. Johnson is now the editor.  He  founded  the  original
"man  project",  which  was  the forerunner of the current "Linux
Documentation Project", and maintains a few  Linux  packages,  as
well as the "Linux Kernel Hackers' Guide".

Content

Each  issue  of Linux Journal offers articles that appeal to new-
comers as well as serious technical articles for  long-time  Unix
users. Although LJ is Linux-specific, many of the articles are of
interest to Unix users and other users of freely  redistributable
software.

Regular columns include:
  o Interviews with prominent Linux personalities
  o Linux Programming Tips by Michael Johnson
  o What's GNU? by Arnold Robbins
  o Cooking with Linux by Matt Welsh
  o The Debian Distribution by Ian Murdock
  o New Products
  o Letters to the Editor
  o Book and Product Reviews
  o Linux Counter
  o Linux Consultant's Directory

Features that have appeared in Linux Journal include:
  o Tips for Optimizing Memory Usage by Jeff Tranter
  o Sendmail+IDA by Vince Skahan
  o World Wide Web by Bernie Thompson
  o Comparison of Linux, Windows NT and OS/2 by Bernie Thompson
  o Onyx: a copylefted 4GL by Michael Kraehe
  o Icmake: a new make tool by Frank Brokken and Karel Kubat
  o Linux and Hams: what hams involved in Linux have to say
  o Hints & Tips for Optimizing Linux Disk Usage by Jeff Tranter
  o Linux Systems Administration by Mark Komarinski
  o Linux Journal Survey Results
  o Linux Around the World
  o The Linux File System Standard by Daniel Quinlan
  o Linux Distributions
  o Wine Status

Advertisers include:
  o Algorithms Corporation
  o Amtec Engineering, Inc.
  o Basmark
  o Fintronic
  o FYL
  o InfoMagic
  o Prime Time Freeware
  o PromoX Systems
  o Sequoia International, Inc.
  o Signum Support
  o Springer-Verlag
  o SSC
  o Trans-Ameritech
  o Usenix
  o Unix Expo
  o Windsor Technologies
  o Yggdrasil

Subscriptions

Subscriptions are available internationally through SSC directly.
They are also available in specific regions through our  interna-
tional distributors. Magazines are mailed internationally through
a "surface air lift" service which delivers the magazines quickly
to  the countries of destination where local mail will be handled
by surface delivery.

Subscription rates are as follows:
    $19/year U.S., $24/year Canada, $29/year Foreign
    $34/2 years U.S., $44/2 years Canada, $49/2 years Foreign
    Back issues are available for $4 ($6 airmail) while supplies last.

    Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 527-2806, Phone: +1 206 527-3385
    E-mail: [email-masked]
At this address we can accept payment by  checks  in  U.S.  funds
drawn  on a U.S. bank or a foreign bank in their native currency,
American Express, Visa and MasterCard.  Since the internet is not
a  secure  network,  you may not wish to send credit card numbers
via email.

Subscriptions start with the next issue of Linux  Journal.   Back
issues,  if  still available, are $4 each or $6 each for air mail
delivery.

Writing for Linux Journal

Articles in Linux Journal cover the range  from  "how  do  I  get
started"  to kernel hacking. We intend to try to strike a balance
so the magazine will be accessible to the newcomer and  yet  con-
tinue to contain useful information to long-term Linux users.

Also,  in  order to legitimize Linux to many business unix users,
we need to offer articles on commercial uses for Linux. They  can
be  in  the  form of documenting a place/job where Linux is being
used commercially, a technical article on the  development  of  a
commercial application, or a review of a commercial product.

If you are considering writing for LJ or have a lead to a commer-
cial use, contact our editor, Michael Johnson. He can be  reached
via e-mail at [email-masked], or as Editor, Linux Jour-
nal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867

Advertising in LJ

Linux Journal is supported by a combination of  subscription  and
advertising  revenue.  Rates  are  competitive  for the number of
readers we reach and our specific  target  audience  matches  the
needs of those who have products targeted to the Linux market.

We currently only offer display advertising. Future plans include
classified advertising and a card deck. If  you  are  interested,
request a media kit and rate card.

Our advertising manager is:
    Joanne Wagner, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: [email-masked]

Linux-related Product Releases

If  you  have  a  new product that you feel is of interest to the
Linux community, send us a press release. We have a  regular  new
products column and will publish information on the most relevant
products.

We also have a review team and may  be  interested  in  reviewing
specific  products. If you would be willing to make a review copy
of a product available, please let us know.

Send new product information to:
    New Products, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: [email-masked]

Consultant's Directory

We maintain a directory of consultants that work with Linux.  The
directory  is  published periodically in Linux Journal. The first
listing is currently free, and rates for subsequent listings  are
reasonable. To be listed, send your name, company, address, phone
and e-mail and/or fax contact information along with a brief  de-
scription of what you work on to:
    Consultant Directory, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: [email-masked]

Distributors/Retailers

We are in the process of setting up newsstand distribution of LJ.
Computer Literacy Bookstores and Barnes & Noble carry  the  maga-
zine  and  we  expect to get distribution to many other stores in
the next few months.

If you are aware of a store that should carry LJ you can  suggest
they  contact SSC at (206) 527-3385 about reselling or send us e-
mail at [email-masked] with their contact information.

Misc

Q: Is LJ available Electronically?
A: Not yet. Once we have the paper copy under control we plan  to
work on this. It requires contract arrangements with both authors
and advertisers before we can do it.

Q: Can information printed in LJ be reprinted?
A: Authors may use the material with the only  restriction  being
that if they use it immediately they include the phrase "reprint-
ed with permission of Linux Journal". Other people wishing to use
material  should contact LJ.  Permission is generally granted ex-
cept where restricted by author or other prior copyright.

If All Else Fails ...

If your question isn't  answered  here,  send  e-mail  to  ljedi-
[email-masked].   We  will send a e-mail response and, if it
is a common question we will add it to this  FAQ.  If  you  don't
have  e-mail,  you  can  fax  questions to (206) 526-0803 or call
(206) 524-8338.

--
Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
usually [email-masked], sometimes [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Which distributors to use
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:27:02 GMT

Pascal Cleve ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Which distributors would you recommend for Linux.  Downloading is not fun.  
: Any horror stories?  Should I pick one at random?

If you are downloading, pick Slackware.  Very popular, very modular and it
works.

But, the best bet is get a CD-ROM.  It is cheap and well worth it.
--
Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
usually [email-masked], sometimes [email-masked]

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From: Jiann-Ming Su <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:13:02 -0500 (CDT)

> 
> SGI doesn't sell a 200 Mhz processor.
> 

Well, I just "hinved" the machine and apparently it's back to 150MHz. 
I guess that chip was taken out of there.  Over the summer it had been 
saying 200MHz.  Oh well.  I can live with 150, I gues. . .

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From: [email-masked] (Bill McCarthy)
Subject: Pixmaps
Date: 1 Oct 1994 11:52:04 -0400

Hiya:

I have a rather odd question. Is there any ftp site that has a collection
of pixmaps? I'm using some from XFM-1.3, and a few are nice, but I'd like to
get some more varied kinds. Any pointers? Thanks.

Bill McCarthy
[email-masked]

"Isn't it pretty to think so."
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________
LinuX + i486dx2/66 
usual disclaimer 

   

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From: [email-masked] (Tina Golini)
Subject: Re: [ppp]
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:24:24 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:

:   As far as I can tell, the only thing different about the way I now
: interface with interramp.com via PPP and the way I am supposed to
: interface with snarf.com is that interramp.com assigns me a "dynamic"
: IP address each time I dial in, whereas snarf.com has "loaned" me a
: fixed IP address.

:   So, since the various scripts that I am using with interramp.com work 
: nicely, I simply copied them all into another directory and modified them to 
: suit snarf.com.

:   However, when I try to connect to snarf.com, the negotiations get
: bogged down and (I think) my end of the negotiations eventually loses
: patience and quits.

If you don't have the option "defaultroute" in your /etc/ppp/options 
file, add it.  Hopefully that will fix it.

Be happy...

- Stormy (I'm on vacation, this isn't my account, send replies to 
          [email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Wilson)
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:24:24 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Rakesh Malik) writes:
|> H. Peter Anvin ([email-masked]) wrote:
|> : Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
|> : By author:    [email-masked] (Peter C. Norton)
|> : In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
|> : > 
|> : > No, no, no (shaking head sadly).  First, I believe that the PCI bus is
|> : > only 32 bits wide.  Now go and do your math.  Second, have you any means of
|> : > benching your bus at optimum performance?  I think you're in for a hard
|> : > dose of reality...
|> : > 
|> 
|> : Your belief is incorrect.  The PCI bus has both 32 and 64 bit
|> : versions.
|> 
|> :    /hpa
|> 
|> 
|> : -- 
|> : INTERNET: [email-masked]             --- Allah'u'abha ---
|> : IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL     HAM RADIO:   N9ITP or SM4TKN
|> : FIDONET:  1:115/511 or 1:115/512  STORMNET:    181:294/1 or 181:294/101
|> : Laughter is the best medicine -- Quayle in '94.
|> 
|>      Does that mean that PCI-2 is available now?  PCI is only 32-bits, 
|> but the new spec is supposed to be for 64-bit wide and faster clock.  Is
|> this rumour true, then?
|> 
|>      -Rakesh

Okay folks...having read the PCI spec a couple times thru now.  

The PCI 2.0 spec has been around for many many months.  I saw it
first about a year ago if memory serves.  This spec has always defined a
64 bit bus and a 32 bit bus.  Both sizes are supported.

REALITY CHECK:

All of the peripheral parts I'm familiar with are using a 32 bit interface
today(that doesn't mean that 64 bit parts don't exist, I've just not seen
any yet!)  SO, today if you go buy a PCI based system, it'll be a 32 bit
bus.

Steve Wilson

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas G. McWilliams)
Subject: Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 06:02:26 GMT

Mark A. Davis ([email-masked]) wrote:
: BTW- I just tried out SCO Unix WordPerfect 5.1 at home (upgraded the
: kernel finally, so I could load iBCS).   ***WOW***  it works, it works
: great, it works fine, it works well, it works!!!!  Not only that, but I
: loaded up a demo of Island Write/Draw/Paint I had lying around.... 
: AND THAT WORKS FLAWLESSLY TOO!!
:
: Great job people!!!!!

Does this mean that Mark Davis is retiring as the resident nag
for SCO compatibility? Could it be true? No more repetitions
lectures and admonitions from Mark "One Note" Davis? What will
be his next crusade ... :^)

(I'm just kidding you Mark; you have defended your position
honorably and reasonably over the years. I'm glad you finally
have what you've been waiting for!)

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 06:03:20 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Charles Blair <[email-masked]> wrote:
>   I suspect a lot of novice users never use sed and awk, and that many
>more use vi.

Hey. I've been using UNIX for ... lets see... 28 years now.  For about 24 
of them I've been using vi.  I NEVER use sedf aor awk.  (Well, to be  
honest, I learned PERL last year and use it from time to time... its far 
superiuor to awk IMO 'cause it pre-compiles and thus runs an order of 
magnitude faster.  It can also do binary output, a real limitation of awk.)

:)

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:03:56 GMT

[email-masked] (Marc Fraioli) writes:

>In article [email-masked],  [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>[email-masked] (Marc Fraioli) writes:
>>> Due to my constant exposure to it and great
>>>hatred for it, I am afraid you will be unable to convince me of its 
>>
>>Not sure why you would HATE it....
>>
>Perhaps I should enumerate some of the reasons:

> 1.  Printing requires a separate suid root daemon with its own
> configuration program.  Why can't they just print through lpd
> like everyone else?

They did this to preserve the print control and port control features
to make it identical to the MS-DOS versions.  I can't say I am thrilled
about having it (I would feel fine throwing that away), but it works
fine here nonetheless.

> 2.  Although the program is nominally X/Motif (it creates a window,
> has pull-down menus, etc.), it is still basically a text program.
> It is clearly text-oriented.  For example, choosing "load" from
> the file menu results in WP's text file load screen taking over
> the window from the document, just like it does under DOS.
> NO Motif filebox.  This shows more laziness than anything else,
> I suspect, but it still blows.

This is not true.... certainly not in 5.1.  You click on file, you do
indeed get a standard, motifish file chooser- all point and click.

> 3.  It crashes.

It does crash if the Xserver runs out of pixmap memory- I have complained to
WP about this.  Hopefully this will be fixed in 6.0

>  A lot.

I have 100 people using it all day long (on the same machine, no less).
I would estimate our average crash rate in the text version is about
1 time per month (which affects only a single person, and the work they
were doing is saved automatically in /tmp/*.bk).  In the X version 
(less used since most of our terminals
are text based), I would estimate about 1 crash in every 20 sessions.

> Usually just locks up, but sometimes the 
> window dies while the process stays behind.  When this happens
> (once a week, with heavy use) the process is somehow unkillable. The only way
> to get rid of it is to reboot.

I have never seen that behavior in WordPerfect for SCO Unix....
Although I have seen this happen on a few other programs.

> And you'd better do that, too,
> since if you don't, and try to start a new instance of WP, odds
> are 50-50 that the whole OS will crash, right down to the PROM
> monitor.  Only piece of user-space code I've ever seen which can
> crash Ultrix.  I suspect the suid root piece must have something
> to do with this.

There definately appears to be a problem with the Ultrix version based
on that description.

> 4.  Strange screen effects.  The scrollbars don't work right.  They
> don't show your correct relative position in the document,

I have not seen that behavior.

> and you
> can't scroll all the way to the bottom of the document.

That was fixed in the 11/93 and later versions of WP5.1

>  There are many more, but these are sufficient to damn it internally
>in my mind. 

At least keep the damning mostly to the Ultrix version....  :)

>>>non-existence (although I wish it were so).  5.1-X is not too bad, but
>>>it is not available for Ultrix, which is what I have on my desk at work.
>>
>>Time to change OS's?  Maybe you could run the newer version remotely....
>>or, if for some reason you hate WP, not just the DEC 5.0 version, then
>>use something else.... $$$$ Framemaker,  Island Write,  On-Go,  Applixware...
>>
>This is difficult for me to do, as my employer doesn't authorize me
>to spend any money.

I can understand that completely.

>  At any rate, I don't want to bring this horrible
>beast home to my Linux box.  Note though, that I am aware that 5.1 on
>SunOS 4.1.3 is dramatically better, although still not perfect.

No software is perfect.... especially not huge programs which run on
all kinds of machines, try to do everything in the world, and try to meet
everyone's needs.   (Darn- I should copywrite that!)

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    [email-masked]       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 06:06:40 GMT

What IS needed is a decent admin shell. IMO.  Just about anybody who can 
read can get some of the latest CD-ROM Linuxs installed.  What they can't 
do, however, is the day to day admin necessary to keep a UNIX system 
healthy and happy.  An adminshell woudl help alot...

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From: [email-masked] (Lover Man)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
Date: 30 Sep 94 20:21:00 GMT

[email-masked] (Jay Ashworth) writes:

>[email-masked] (David - Morris) writes:
>>Re. why not 127.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 -- the destination address must
>>be a 'host' address and the host address can't be zero (0).

>True... but I think he was talking about the destination address, not the
>interface address... you can route either the loopback _net_, or the
>loopback _host_, with equal facility.

>Cheers,
>-- jra
>-- 
>Jay R. Ashworth        High Technology Systems Comsulting             Ashworth
>Designer              Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation       & Associates
>ka1fjx/4                                                  
>[email-masked]   "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?"  813 790 7592

Ok I have a question for you guys.  Since I didn't here the beginning of
this thread I have this particular problem:

I have a problem.  There is a machine which I dial up and get
a slip link to.  On this machines network I can access all of the 
machines.  However I have to telnet to a machine I have an account on
on that network to be able to telnet or ftp to the rest of the internet.
Is there a way I can somehow have the machine that I do have an account
on to act as some sort of a gateway.  I've tried specifiing that machine
as my gateway to no avail.

     #######          #####################
     # Me  #--------- # Dialup term server#----------+
     #######          #####################          |
                                                     |
                                                  #########
                                                  # "bert"#
                                                  #########
                                                     |
                                                 $$$$|$$$$$
                                                 $Internet$ 
                                                 $$$$$$$$$$

I want to make it look to my machine as if I am connected directly to
the internet.  And if possible to the internet that I am connected directly
to it.  I am assuming the termserver will not route packets out side of
the network the machine "bert" lies on.  I have an account on the machine
bert, which is how I access the internet.  I would like to be able to
do what I do from bert directly from my machine, which happens to be
a linux box.

Here is what I see when I type the route command on my box.  By the way 
which is a Linux machine.

Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
uicgate         *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 sl0
127.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         uicgate         *               UG    0      0     4996 sl0

uiucgate is the name of the termserver, or at least the name I gave it in
my hosts file.

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From: [email-masked] (NightHawk)
Subject: gcc 2.6.0 [Re: GCC (templates) on Linux]
Date: 27 Sep 1994 23:10:39 -0400

Daniel COHEN-LAROQUE ([email-masked]) wrote:

: For more information, have a look at gnu.gcc.help newsgroup.
: If people is interested, I can download gcc2.6.0 on a site. I think

Please don't. You don't know what you get into.

: people at sunsite wait for gcc to be more stable. (I don't aggree since
: it's as usable as gcc2.5.8, I compiled kernel 1.1.45 yesterday)

gcc 2.6.1 may be release RSN. For peopl who cannot wait and are willing
to use the beta compiler, you can join the GCC channel.

NH

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