Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #862
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 20:13:23 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #862, Volume #2                 Sat, 1 Oct 94 20:13:23 EDT

Contents:
  Re: pkzip for dos? (Christopher M. May)
  Re: Driver support for PS/2 (MCA) version of SMC/WD? (James F. Morris)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Grant Edwards)
  TERM auto-login script. (StarWare)
  LINUX pronounciation. ([email-masked] (Matt Whiting))
  Linux CD free with PC Plus magazine (Andy Pearce)
  Re: ext2 QUESTIONS (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Phone # for ASUS, please. (SW Technology)
  Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Ghostscript, resume printing from page n (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Jiann-Ming Su)
  Re: New User HOWTO proposal (Kelly Lee Setzer)
  Play Audio CD's on Linux? (William Bushing)
  Re: Next InfoMagic Linux CD's? (Kelly Lee Setzer)
  Patch to make MSS work on PSS sndcards (Donald Jeff Dionne)
  HELP how can untar a bad tamp with Linux???? (Nathan Stratton)
  Linux archives mirror map (Scott Barker)

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From: [email-masked] (Christopher M. May)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: pkzip for dos?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 06:12:50 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: Hi All, 

: Does Linux have a utility to pkunzip DOS .zip files?  If yes, would
: you tell what site it is on?  

It's on sunsite.unc.edu: /pub/Linux/utils/compress/unzip51.tgz

--

-Chris May, Computer Science, University of MA, Amherst
-       Technical Assistant, P.C. Maintenance Lab

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [email-masked] (James F. Morris)
Subject: Re: Driver support for PS/2 (MCA) version of SMC/WD?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 02:49:33 GMT

Donald,

Thanks for the response!

In article <[email-masked]>,
Donald Becker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>The WD80*3 and SMC Ultra use different methods of enabling memory.
>Do you know which one this card is similar to?

Good question.  More delving into the Crynwr (Assembler!) source should 
turn up the answer.  I do know that the memory address range for the NIC 
is configured with the PS/2 "Reference Disk".  I have it setup for 16KB 
access from C8000-CBFFF, and 8KB ROM from CC000-CDFFF.  It seems that the 
Linux SMC and WD drivers have yet to put it there...

>Please include the exact message -- is that the Tx status register or the
>general status register?

I am pretty sure it was the TX register.  I will nab the message out of 
the syslog/debug files tomorrow, and post it here.

>Those delays shouldn't be necessary with the UltraChip.  They were for
>earlier chips that needed a recovery period between accesses.  That was a
>bug, not a feature.

Glad to hear that.  Further delving into the Crynwr driver shows that it 
has code to read one of the NIC registers, which has a bit indicating 
that it is on an MCA machine.  The Crynwr code then proceeds to program a 
bit in configuration register 5 (0x04 I think) that somehow enables NIC 
interrupts onto the MCA bus.  Without doing so, the MCA bus will 
apparently not see IRQ's from the board.

>Is the ethernet address correctly detected?

Unsure.

>Are you receiving any packets at all?  Even errors?  Check /proc/net/dev.

No packets are seen at all to date.  However, I am going to switch from 
the 1.0.9 kernel to 1.1.xx tomorrow, and start over with this 
debugging.  I have *tried* defining EI_DEBUG to > 2, but do not see any 
messages in /var/adm/syslog or debug...

>What addresses can the board end up at?

The usual - C0000, CC000, D0000, etc.  IT is configured through PS/2 setup.

/--------------------------------------------------\
| Jim Morris   |    Internet:  [email-masked] |
|              |  CompuServe:  73670,762           |
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From: [email-masked] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 19:58:20 GMT

S. Joel Katz ([email-masked]) wrote:

: >I've heard two pronunciations of Linux, both are variations of the
: >"i" sound.  My natural tendancy is to pronounce the "i" like "hi".
: >The other common pronunciation has the "i" sound like "in".

I've also heard that lee-nukes (long 'e' and long 'u') is the
preferred pronunciation in some parts.  I haven't yet listened to the
.au file of Linus saying the word.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  I would like to urinate
Rosemount Inc.                                |in an OVULAR, porcelain pool
                                              |--
[email-masked]                          |

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (StarWare)
Subject: TERM auto-login script.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 03:01:25 GMT

Hello all,

Does anybody have the auto-login script for starting TERM?
I have the one from Michael O'Reilly, but it does not work
for me.  I always get time out with it, but if I use Kermit
to connect then start term, everything is OK.

-- 

Regards                         
[email-masked]

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Subject: LINUX pronounciation.
From: [email-masked] ([email-masked] (Matt Whiting))
Date: 30 Sep 94 15:22:47 -0500

-- 

Stupid question:  how is LINUX pronounced?  I've heard pronounced so that it
sounds like the "lin" in linen and so that it sounds like the "lin" in line.

--
Matthew S. Whiting, P.E.   | PP-ASEL-IA | All opinions expressed herein are
Corning Incorporated       |            | strictly personal.
[email-masked]     |            |

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From: [email-masked] (Andy Pearce)
Subject: Linux CD free with PC Plus magazine
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 09:21:06 GMT

Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet, so ...

I just received my Oct 94 issue of PC Plus magazine here in the
UK.  There is PC Plus super CD with, among other things, Slackware 
Linux 2.0, taped to the front.  Price 3.95 pounds sterling. 
My friend bought the last 2 copies in our local W H Smith, so 
the word is obviously out.

--ajp 

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: ext2 QUESTIONS
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 03:13:46 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Michael H. Price II <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I have a few questions and can't seem to find the answers to them:
>
>  1.  I know that mke2fs reserves 5% of the disk space for the super user.
>      I even know how to set it to 0%.  What I don't know is why 5% is
>      reserved in the first place?  Does it hurt to set it to 0?

I'm not sure abotu Linux, but i know many Unices reserve about that much 
disk space so the system can handle overflows efficiently and 
gracefully.  I wouldn't mess with it unless you are SURE you know what 
you are doing, or your data is not important to you...

> >  2.  What is the purpose of the lost+found directory? >

Ah, this one I'm pretty sure i knwo the answer to.  When thge system goes 
down unexpectedly, files that are open and being editied can be lost.  
Some editors (such as vi) know how to set it up so that a version can be 
found there when you next come up.

>  3.  Why does ext2 have a bunch of options that don't do anything yet?
>
Future exapnsion????
Thats just a guess.
>
>Thanks for your time.

Thats okay, I'm waiting for a compile to finish (god i LOVE UNIX!  ;)  )

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 03:17:00 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Peter Reilley <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman) writes:
>
>$>In article <[email-masked]>, Erik Ratcliffe <[email-masked]> wrote:
>$>>Guy Bobenrieth ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>$>>Hell, it's only about $25...
>$>>
>
>$>Well, $34.95 list, really.
>
>       $25.00 at CDROMs+ (603) 898-5047 of Salem, New Hampshire.   I got
>one Friday.
>Pete.
>
You got a deal.  List is $34.95  (yygdrasil is less than a mile from me.)
I bought mine for $30.00.  The moral of this story, I guess, is shop around.

Jeff Kesselman

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
From: [email-masked] (SW Technology)
Subject: Re: Phone # for ASUS, please.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 03:22:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Al Dykes) writes:
>Sorry to post on the net for this, but I'd like to get motherboard specs
>from ASUS.  Can someone send me their phone #. 
408-956-9077

-- 

Marvin  Y. Wu            ||     For great deals on PCs/PC parts, notebooks
SW Technology            ||            and Linux/BSD/X workstations
251 West Renner Ste 229  ||         finger [email-masked], OR
Richardson, TX 75080     ||        Anonymous FTP to ftp.netcom.com, and
214-907-0871             ||        cd /pub/swt/info for more infomation

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 00:35:32 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Theodore Ts'o <[email-masked]> wrote:
>   Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 23:53 EDT
>   From: [email-masked] (Russell Nelson)
>
>   An odd kind of interface copyright if you can unilaterally take the
>   "copyright" away from the "copyright holder", by actually programming
>   to that interface.
>
>   In other words, if you don't like the gmp "interface copyright", write
>   a package that is compatible with it (that people would seriously
>   use).  That act takes away the "interface copyright", which could not
>   happen under copyright law if an actual copyright on the interface was
>   claimed.
>
>So whether or not package A can be distrbuted only under the terms
>attached to package B depends on the existence or non-existence of
>package C, where A, B, and C do not share any lines of codes and are not
>otherwise derived from one another?
>
>This is rational?
>

No, its not, which is WHY most of us can't buy your original argument.  

'Nuff said.

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From: [email-masked] (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: Ghostscript, resume printing from page n
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:47:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Bontridder Dirk <bontridd@btmpds> wrote:
>Hello,
>
> A few days ago, I was printing with ghostscript a manual (postscript
> format) of 200 pages. After 60 pages my printer was resetted. How can
> I resume my printing without printing the first 60 pages of my
> document?

Take the editor of your choice and delete all the pages you've already
printed from the postscript file.  It's fairly easy to find them (look
for `%% Page' or so.

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 00:33:37 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Theodore Ts'o <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Followup-to: gnu.misc.discuss
>
>Whether or not the FSF's attempt at this interface copyright would hold
>water is a different question, and it's not worth argueing here, since
>neither of us will know until it comes before a judge and jury --- and
>it's probably in the best interests of the FSF for it not to actually
>come into a courtroom setting anyway.  
>
>But the mere fact that the FSF is even trying to do this is something
>that I find morally repugnant.
>
>                                                       - Ted

"My oponnent is a crook... and I HATE crooks!"

This kind of logic works in politics, but nto in debate, law, or 
intellegent conversation, my friend.  What you have done is to label 
Stahlman yourself with a label he woudl deney, and then decry himfor YOUR 
label.  Unless you can PROVE that Stahlman is trying to copyright an 
interface (something his OTHER group- the Leauge for Programmer Freedom 
actively campaigns AGAINST), your argument here is so much hot air.

You havent proved the first point, yet, I'm afraid, to most of our 
satisfaction.

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From: Jiann-Ming Su <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:08:20 -0500 (CDT)

On Fri, 30 Sep 1994, Bill Broadley wrote:

> So your saying someone snuck in upgraded it to 200 Mhz, then snuck back
> in and down graded it?
> 
> Maybe you just forgot?
> 
> Or maybe the OS didn't read it correctly and the new software does.
> 
> Fact is SGI doesn't sell 200 Mhz yet.  Then sell 100, 133, and 150.
> 

Nope, you are right, it was a software glitch.  I just asked the primary
user of that machine, and he varified.  Sorry for my confusion.

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From: setzerkl@vvcs (Kelly Lee Setzer)
Subject: Re: New User HOWTO proposal
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 18:12:10 GMT

Clifford Story ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Moreover, a How-To written from the perspective of a rookie would be more
: helpful to a rookie than one written by an expert.

Perhaps a "Before-you-install-HOWTO"?  I really had no idea just what I
was getting into, and the I&GS just walk you through, it lacks the
what and the why...the overall impression.

Kelly

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From: [email-masked] (William Bushing)
Subject: Play Audio CD's on Linux?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 13:57:29 -0700

OK, call me blind or stupid... flame me to your heart's content.
I love Linux, but I haven't yet found out how to play audio CD's
while operating under Linux. I grep'ed through all the documenta-
tion I could see for anything on audio/CD, but could find nothing.
I'd hate to return to DOS or, shudder, Windose just to be able to
play music while I work. I know Linux can do it... my world would
be complete with multiple windows multitasking PLUS music! Thanks
in advance for any pointers.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
William W. (Boo) Bushing  |  "Life is too important to be
[email-masked]    |       taken seriously"
[email-masked]  | 
[email-masked]  |            - Einstein
Marine Biotechnology Lab   Univ. of Calif. Santa Barbara
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: setzerkl@vvcs (Kelly Lee Setzer)
Subject: Re: Next InfoMagic Linux CD's?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 18:14:43 GMT

JL Gomez ([email-masked]) wrote:
: When will the next release of Linux InfoMagic CD set come out?

: I have the August version.

: Thanks for the info.
: -- 
: [email-masked]

Oct. 10, so says infomagic, though when I ordered, they said I should
have it before Oct. 5 (the new distribution).  The new one is to be
Slackware Pro 2.1 (I believe) with kernals through 1.1.51 (at least),
all updated software.  It also comes with the regular infomagic bells
and whistles.

Kelly

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From: [email-masked] (Donald Jeff Dionne)
Subject: Patch to make MSS work on PSS sndcards
Date: 1 Oct 1994 16:30:25 GMT

Hi all.  Here is a small patch to make a PSS soundcard (like the Cardinal
DSP-16 that I have) initalize properly so one can use the MSS chipset on it
in Linux without booting MesSy-DOG first.  I've used it for a few days now 
without problem, and I sent it to Hannu so that hopefully the next release 
will be fixed if his new PSS driver is not ready by then.

When you configure your sound support, make sure to add BOTH PSS and MSS 
support.  There is a file in the sound dir that will tell you how to do that
(I don't remember which one). The PSS card's MSS support will be initalized 
to what you specify for MSS I/O address, DMA and IRQ.  When you boot the 
new kernel, you should see something like...

Init PSS/WSS addr 530 IRQ 1 DMA 7
snd11 <PSS-ESC614> at 0x220 irq 10 drq 3
snd10 <MS Sound System (AD1848)> at 0x530 irq 7 drq 1 

Have fun!
[email-masked]

=======Patch starts here=========

*** sound/pss.c Fri Jul 15 07:22:11 1994
--- linux/drivers/sound/pss.c   Thu Sep 29 11:50:21 1994
***************
*** 46 ****
--- 47,48 ----
+    Changes by Jeff Dionne, [email-masked] for MSS/WSS init support
+
***************
*** 53 ****
! #define PSS_MSS_BASE 0
--- 55 ----
! #define PSS_MSS_BASE MSS_BASE
*************** pss_setwssdma (int dmaNum)
*** 415 ****
--- 418,455 ----
+ /*____ pss_setwssint
+         This function sets the correct bits in the
+       Windows Sound System configuration PSS register to
+       enable the chosen interrupt.
+       It takes a interrupt button as its argument.
+ */
+ static void
+ pss_setwssint (int intNum)
+ {
+   int             val;
+   int             wssConfigAddress;
+
+   wssConfigAddress = pss_base + PSS_WSS_CONFIG;
+   switch (intNum)
+     {
+     case 3:
+       val = pss_inpw (wssConfigAddress);
+       val &= INT_MASK;
+       val |= INT_3_BITS;
+       pss_outpw (wssConfigAddress, val);
+       break;
+     case 5:
+       val = pss_inpw (wssConfigAddress);
+       val &= INT_MASK;
+       val |= INT_5_BITS;
+       pss_outpw (wssConfigAddress, val);
+       break;
+     case 7:
+       val = pss_inpw (wssConfigAddress);
+       val &= INT_MASK;
+       val |= INT_7_BITS;
+       pss_outpw (wssConfigAddress, val);
+       break;
+     default:
+       printk ("pss_setwssint: unknown_int\n");
+     }
+ }
+
*************** attach_pss (long mem_start, struct addre
*** 583 ****
--- 624,625 ----
+ #ifndef EXCLUDE_SB
+
*************** attach_pss (long mem_start, struct addre
*** 596 ****
--- 639,650 ----
+
+ #endif /* EXCLUDE_SB */
+
+ #ifndef EXCLUDE_MSS
+
+   pss_setaddr (wssAddr, pss_base + PSS_WSS_CONFIG);
+   pss_setwssdma(MSS_DMA);
+   pss_setwssint(MSS_IRQ);
+
+   printk("Init PSS/WSS addr %x IRQ %d DMA %d\n",wssAddr,MSS_DMA,MSS_IRQ);
+
+ #endif /* EXCLUDE_MSS */

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Nathan Stratton)
Subject: HELP how can untar a bad tamp with Linux????
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 16:59:27 GMT

Help, when I try to untar my tape a get read errors and then tar exits 
because of them. How can I force it to untar the tap so I can get some of 
the data? Pleas if you can help send me mail as soon as possible.

Thanks's

-Nathan

-- 
Nathan Stratton         CEO, NovaNet, Inc. On-Line Communication Services.

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From: [email-masked] (Scott Barker)
Subject: Linux archives mirror map
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:14:54 GMT

Is there any one "official" site where any or all of the following are kept?

        Documentation
        Source/binaries for applications
        Source/binaries for kernel development

I'm trying to set up a mirror at my site, and I need to know where to fetch
everything. I believe the home site for Slackware is ftp.cdrom.com, and the
home site for Debian is sunsite.unc.edu

However, the various source, binaries and especially documentation seem to be
different at each of tsx-11, sunsite and funet. I guess I'm mostly interested
in where the developers in each of those categories put their stuff. 

Can anybody help me out on this?

--
Scott Barker
[email-masked]

"Give, expecting nothing thereof"
   - St. Thomas Aquinas

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