Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #866
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 16:13:12 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #866, Volume #2                 Sun, 2 Oct 94 16:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN (Benjamin John Walter)
  Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Benjamin John Walter)
  Re: Where do I get PPP software? (Benjamin John Walter)
  Is there a firewall for slackware? (The Weasel !!)
  Re: PROBLEM with console (Bernd Eckenfels)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  HELP NEEDED - Converting SCO users biz.sco.general (Shahid Ikram Butt)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Joseph W. DeVincentis)
  Linux Documentation (Franco Gerace)
  Re: PROBLEM with console (Carlos Dominguez)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? ([email-masked])
  moxftp 2.2 for mosaic (Benjamin Alman)
  Wanted, any Linux commercial software (SET SY)
  Re: New User HOWTO proposal (Clifford Story)
  Motif (Philip Thambidurai)
  Intel EtherExpress ??? (CHARLES SYERS)
  Re: Is anyone using a TEXEL CD-ROM (SCSI) with Linux? (Mark Bolzern)
  Re: [Q] SW Technology (Sridhar Kodela)
  Re: Linux Documentation (Matt Welsh)
  xdm / chooser (Martin Oldfield)
  Re: [Q] SW Technology (Cheng-Tang Lee)
  Re: [ppp] One works, the other almost works. (Al Longyear)
  Re: Boot disk -> Root disk (Patrick J. Volkerding)
  TMC-850 on IRQ 11 no workee... ([email-masked])
  Thanx (Eric Hausgaard)

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From: [email-masked] (Benjamin John Walter)
Subject: Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 07:06:34 +0000

: Won't work. The kernel code in most systems is smart enough to either
: know 224.x.x.x is multicast or to ignore it.

Apart from my Linux system, apparently ;-)

peace, Ben

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From: [email-masked] (Benjamin John Walter)
Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 07:12:06 +0000

Alan Cox ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Edwards) writes:
: >Hmmm... maybe the load balancing stuff could do this... (I have no idea
: >how much of the load-balancing stuff has been implemented, or how stable
: >it is...)... If you could set up routing tables at both ends for this, it
: >seems like it would probibly work. (Famous last words, I know... :) )

: It's in, it should work. You'll need the ifslave program to try it out
: and probably to do a bit of hackery with dip etc to set it up. Email me
: if you want the bits

I'd be interested in seeing them, where can I find them?

peace, Ben

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From: [email-masked] (Benjamin John Walter)
Subject: Re: Where do I get PPP software?
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 07:14:32 +0000

: Hello netters!  I have PPP enabled in my kernel with Slackware 2.0, but I do
: not know how I can go about using it?  Currently, I am using slip with dip,
: but I cannot find any software for dialing in with PPP.  I have a dynamically
: allocated IP address, and I have to dial in to get it, so I need software
: that meets these needs.   Much thanks in advance!

Hi there!  Check out the ppp-2.1.2a collection on sunsite.  It
contains a program, pppd, that you use to manage your PPP connections
as well as a program to called 'chat' to automate your login.
I think its probably lurking somewhere under
/pub/Linux/system/Network/serial on sunsite.unc.edu.

Peace,  Ben

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From: [email-masked] (The Weasel !!)
Subject: Is there a firewall for slackware?
Date: 2 Oct 1994 06:22:20 GMT

We are tring to setup a firewall to help protect data on our system.
Is there a firewall out there for slackware? I need to install it 
on our gateway linux box.

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From: [email-masked] (Bernd Eckenfels)
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PROBLEM with console
Date: 30 Sep 1994 13:37:49 GMT

Joerg Schoeppe ([email-masked]) wrote:
<...xconsole...>

Der Aufruf TIOCCONS kann nur von root ausgefuehrt werden. Aus dem
Grund muss man xconsole entweder SUID root machen (bin mir aber nicht
sicher, ob das sicher ist), oder man laesst es vom XDM anstarten,
dann laeuft es als root.

xterm z.B. ist auch SUID Root, und mit xterm -C kann man sich die
console anschauen!

Gruss,
Bernd
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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 2 Oct 1994 04:04:15 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Shahid Ikram Butt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Converting SCO users biz.sco.general
Date: 2 Oct 1994 05:37:16 -0500

Okay, Okay I should have crossposted it in the first place.
I posted an article under the subject : "Does nobody here know about
Linux ? " in biz.sco.general few hours ago and already have a good
response. This is an honest attempt to convert SCO users to Linux.
Hopefully we'll get attention of some developers and they might think
about porting their popular application to Linux.

If you have been enjoying Linux without paying for it then now is a
good time to pay back to Linux community. Your job is to get more
and more people to start using Linux instead of any other OS. The
more people use Linux, more applications, faster development etc.
etc. Its a good thing you see. Jump to biz.sco.general now and 
participate in that discussion. 

Shahid
   [email-masked]
                  Cruising Information Super Highway

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From: [email-masked] (Joseph W. DeVincentis)
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: 1 Oct 1994 00:22:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Richard L. Goerwitz <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Inge Cubitt) writes:
  [discussion of how to pronounce Linux, short I or long E first syllable?]
>>What is all this long and short business?  They seem to take the same length
>>of time to say whether it's i as in in or i as in line.  Which is which?
>
>It's what the old schoolteachers teach English-speaking students, and
>most never stop to think whether it's true or not.

I took a linguistics class once, and one of the interesting things I
learned then was the answer to this question.  It's long so I'll summarize.

At one time far in the past the "long" and "short" vowel sounds were
actually long and short versions of the same sounds.  Over time, there
have been many changes in the way English is pronounced, including a
couple massive vowel-shifts, such that none of the vowels are pronounced
today as they were originally pronounced.  Other languages have undergone
similar but different changes.

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From: [email-masked] (Franco Gerace)
Subject: Linux Documentation
Date: 30 Sep 1994 20:35 -0500

I noticed that the Linux documentation (LDP) at sunsite is not ftp'able.  
In other words, I am not able to FTP the LDP files. Has anyone encountered 
the same problem?  Is there any other site where one can FTP these files?

--Thank You . . . 

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From: [email-masked] (Carlos Dominguez)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM with console
Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:24:41 -0400

Bernd Eckenfels ([email-masked]) wrote:

Gutentag! 

: xterm z.B. ist auch SUID Root, und mit xterm -C kann man sich die
: console anschauen!

I gather that it can't be done?

Gruss :)

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 12:53:40 -0500

Will someone please drive a stake through the heart of this issue.
How do you pronounce "C++" in Danish?

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From: [email-masked] (Benjamin Alman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic
Date: 2 Oct 1994 15:56:09 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

does anyone out there have the moxftp (compiled for mosaic) binaries (and 
man page(s), docs, app-default-files, etc) they can .tar up and put up for 
ftp somewhere? I'm running linux, but I don't have the space to compile 
this myself... Could anyone help me out? THANKS!

PLEASE reply be email if possible.. thanks!

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From: [email-masked] (SET SY)
Subject: Wanted, any Linux commercial software
Date: 1 Oct 1994 13:53:25 +0100

        I am interested in looking for any commercial software for
Linux. Please email to me if you have any commercial software to sell.

                                        thanks in advance

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From: Clifford Story <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: New User HOWTO proposal
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:12:40 GMT

And how about this:  If I'm installing Linux and I get a query, "Install
blip-oxr, which combines features of blip and oxr?", it would be
helpful if I knew what blip and oxr were.  So a glossary would be
helpful.

Someone new to Linux might have UNIX admin experience, UNIX user
experience, or (like me) no UNIX experience at all.  The installation,
I think, sorta expects the first.  Of course, a Linux user will have to
learn all that stuff but he's got to get installed first...  Actually,
this
might be an argument in favor of the rookie-distribution proposal
discussed in another thread.

                                                Cliff

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From: [email-masked] (Philip Thambidurai)
Subject: Motif
Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:05:20 GMT

Which vendors sell Motif for Linux?

Thanks

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Thambidurai
Martin Marietta Laboratories                   TEL:   609-866-6546
Route 38, Bldg.145-2                           FAX:   609-866-6397
Moorestown, NJ 08057, USA                      email: [email-masked]
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Martin Marietta Laboratories                   TEL:   609-866-6546
Route 38, Bldg.145-2                           FAX:   609-866-6397
Moorestown, NJ 08057, USA                      email: [email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] (CHARLES SYERS)
Subject: Intel EtherExpress ???
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 11:30:00 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked] (CHARLES SYERS)

     as "still in the testing phase".  Some potential problems are
     mentioned.  What's the current status on this?

                                Thanx -
                                    Chuck.
---
 þ OLX 2.2 þ LINUX - The choice of a GNU generation!

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Bolzern)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a TEXEL CD-ROM (SCSI) with Linux?
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 00:36:48 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Paul Pearson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>If so, could you let me know what model and what firmware revision?  I have 
>a DOS  program that will scan the SCSI devices and tell you what the 
>firmware revision is if you need it.  I can email it or whatever -- just let 
>me know.  Thx.
>
>
>--Paul Pearson
>  [email-masked]
>  "Please Wait... Brain booting from floppy."

Texel 3028 on Soundblaster SCSI under Linux.  Also have one for my SCO BOX
EPROM 3.06 on SCSI ID#5    Works fine

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WorkGroup Solutions, Inc.    The FlagShip "CA-Clipper and XBase on Unix" People
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Sridhar Kodela)
Subject: Re: [Q] SW Technology
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:16:42 GMT

Bill Broadley ([email-masked]) wrote:

: : There is a guy in this news-group who was VERY unhappy with his experences 
: : with this company, I believe.  Look back through the posts of the last 2 
: : weeks or so.

[SNIP]

: is widely regarded as unreliable, and shouldn't blame SWT for such
: problems.

        I bought my system from SWT almost one year back and am pretty happy 
camper.  I got a 486DX33 machine.  SO far it never gave me trouble.  Later I
added another HDD, CDROM, sound card.  I bought all these from SWT. Marvin 
came to my apartment to put it in.  Later I bought a bubble jet printer and 
tape drive from some place else (hey they are in sale) and tried to set it up.  
I ran into trouble with filters and he helped me out then also eventhough 
i didn't buy them from him.

        I consider this pretty good service.  This is my experience and got 
no association with SWT except as a happy customer. 

cheers
have a nice weekend,
sridhar kodela
[email-masked]
: --
: Bill Broadley         [email-masked]           UCD Math Sys-Admin
: Linux is great.               http://ucdmath.ucdavis.edu/~broadley            PGP-ok

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From: [email-masked] (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Linux Documentation
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 16:44:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Franco Gerace) writes:
>I noticed that the Linux documentation (LDP) at sunsite is not ftp'able.  

It certainly should be. Sunsite's FTP seems to be flaky over the
last few days. You can get the LDP files from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux
if you can't get sunsite to cooperate.

If you continue to have problems please mail me a log of your FTP session.

mdw

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From: [email-masked] (Martin Oldfield)
Subject: xdm / chooser
Date: 02 Oct 1994 17:00:07 GMT

Has anyone managed to successfully run xdm and the chooser under Linux ?

At the moment I'm having hassles but that might just be because xdm is
somewhat new and complicated. I'm running stock XFree86, as supplied
with the current slackware release on 1.1.49 kernel.

Thanks in advance,
--

Martin Oldfield, MRAO, Cavendish Labs, CAMBRIDGE, CB3 0HE
Work:  0223 337365 Fax: 0223 354599 Home: 0223 67940
Don't even remember what her lips felt like on mine. - Dylan

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From: [email-masked] (Cheng-Tang Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [Q] SW Technology
Date: 01 Oct 1994 01:33:25 GMT

   In article <[email-masked]>, A.R.R.Torres <[email-masked]> wrote:
   >
   >I am about to order a system from SW Technology.
   >I am planning to run dos/windows and Linux.
   >Does anyone have any experience dealing with 
   >them? 
   >-- or would anyone recomend another dealer with 
   >a similar price?
   >They are offering a P90 (intel plato), 8MB, 540 M Quantum  HD, NCR SCSI,
   >2x CD-Rom for $2499.
   >
   >

I've bought several machines for my school and my friends.  We're very happy
with SWT.  However, I kept seeing people warning others not to order from
SWT because they saw a long article complaining about SWT.  Well, I saw it, 
too.  The only thing impressed me is its length.  And my only comment is that
I wish that guy knows a bit about linux, or even Unix.  I'm only a new user
in Linux.  I also happen to experience same problems like the person did.
Most of the problems can be remedied in minutes, even seconds.  I don't know 
if one should yell out for them.  My only real problem is that SWT forgot
to send me DOS drivers for the parts because I run Linux only on my machine.
One phone call to Marvin solved this.  I got everything I need in one week.
I'm not affiliated with SWT, just a happy user.

James

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From: [email-masked] (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: [ppp] One works, the other almost works.
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 16:38:34 GMT

[email-masked] writes:

>  Made some progress, but not there yet.

>  Let me try to isolate the difference.

>  1. Here is where snarf.com craps out:
>-----------------------------------------------------------

>  [...]

>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE 
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: (45)
>Oct  1 21:15:34 bedlam Oct  1 2
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: received ADDR 
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: (0.0.0.0)
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]:  (ACK) 
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>]
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 2, id 2.
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Untimeout 2194:114e0.
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Setting itimer for 0 seconds in untimeout.
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: up
>Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Could not determine remote IP address
>                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  [...]

>Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: fsm_rtermack(LCP).
>Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: Connection terminated.
>Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: set kernel debugging level to 2
>Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: Exit.

>  2. Here is what interramp.com does:

>------------------------------------------------------------

>  [...]

>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE 
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: (45)
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]:  (ACK) 
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: received ADDR 
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: (38.145.180.110)
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]:  (ACK) 
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x4a <compress VJ 0f 00> <addr 38.145.180.110>]
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 2, id 74.
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: IO signal received
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: IO signal received
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 <addr 38.10.180.76> <compress VJ 0f 00>] e0 f7
>                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: fsm_rconfnakrej(IPCP): Rcvd id 1.

>  [...]

>Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: local  IP address 38.10.180.76
>Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: remote IP address 38.145.180.110
>Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started; pid = 121
>Oct  1 21:19:07 bedlam pppd[116]: Alarm
>------------------------------------------- and done!

>  
>  How come interramp.com gives me its IP address but snarf.com won't?

It is because they don't have one. Let me see if I can explain further.

The RFC 1332 (and others) defines the IPCP configure request frame to
send the various options to be used in the IP protocol exchange. One
such option is the IP address. The purpose for telling your remote
the IP address is so that it knows the value when it configures its
local routing.

The point-to-point links such as PPP, SLIP, and PLIP, do not use their
own local IP address. There are no routes to that address. All routes
are to the peer's IP address. (This is one of the reasons why you can
not ping your own IP address.)

Each side has the option of sending or not sending their IP
address. It is not a MUST field. (For a definition of the RFC term
MUST, see most any of the RFC documents.)

If you do not know your IP address, you are to send an invalid IP
address to the remote. The invalid address is 0.0.0.0. The remote is
to recognize that this is an invalid address and send a NAK frame for
this field and supply the proper IP address to be used.

The problem is that the RFC does not say what to do if the remote
doesn't know the IP address either. It can't send a NAK and supply the
address of 0.0.0.0 since the protocol requires that the remote then
take this value and send it again on a new configure request frame. It
can't send a IPCP reject frame. This means that it does not wish to do
IP protocol. The only other option is to send an ACK for the frame.

So, when the IPCP protocol is completed, the software looks for the
remote IP address. This is 0.0.0.0. Well, this will not work. So, the
system immediately takes down the IP layer. Since you don't want to
exchange any other protocol but IP at this time, the LCP layer goes
down and the connection is terminated.

There are three solutions to the problem:

1. You may refuse to negotiate the IP addresses. To do this, include
   the option "-ip". This will ignore the IP addresses given by the
   remote and not give your IP address to the remote in your configure
   request frame. You must then include both local and remote IP
   addresses on the pppd execution line.

2. You may give the remote your IP address and refuse to accept
   theirs. This is done with the option "ipcp-accept-local". (What this
   option means is that while you give your address, you are willing to
   accept the remote saying "no, I want you to use address x.x.x.x".)

3. You may specify the remote address and not your own. This will
   request that you get an IP address for your local access from the
   remote system and have an address for the remote to use.

If I was in your situation, I would do option #3.

So, I recommend that you add the following option to the pppd process
execution:

       :10.10.10.10

This will simply give the remote a phoney IP address so that when it
sends you the invalid IP address, you will have something to give it
in response.

You don't have to worry about the address 10.10.10.10 going on the
internet.  Only your local IP address and the final destination IP
address will be used in the frames. It would be difficult for them to
not have a valid IP address for you.

>  Is snarf.com maybe saying "I'll tell you my IP address if you tell
>me your IP address"?

No. It means that they don't know their IP address. This is not a problem.
Just tell them one. :)

-- 
Al Longyear           [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding)
Subject: Re: Boot disk -> Root disk
Date: 2 Oct 1994 17:21:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Pramod Koshy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>The problem I am having is that the boot disk makes a Ram disk and then
>boots the system from RAM. Then it tells me to load the root disk which also
>works fine. After this when I try to run the fdisk , it says "out of memory"
>.Having only 4 MB of RAM , i need the command that disables the ram disk and
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>loads the boot, root from the floppy. The information accompanying the
>distribution  I have does not give me any information on how to do it. Can
>somebody please help me.

Slackware 2.0.1 has a file, LOWMEM.TXT, which describes a couple 
simple workarounds to this problem.  You can get the file from most 
Slackware mirror sites, including 
ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/linux/slackware/LOWMEM.TXT.

Hope it helps -

Pat

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: TMC-850 on IRQ 11 no workee...
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:46:21 GMT

I have this really flaky Adaptec 1542B, so I decided to dust off a TMC-850
compatible card and use it.  Since I have a four-port comm card, I decided
to switch the TMC-850 over to IRQ 11.  I changed the IRQ #define in
seagate.c to 11, rebuilt the kernel, and rebooted.  (1.1.51).

The kernel booted, recognized the card as an ST-0X, but recognized my
Maxtor as not only LUN 0, but also LUN4 and 7!  Then it proceeded to
delete some entries (bogus, but it didn't say which ones it was deleting),
and go on. 

The kernel read the partition table OK, but right after it did, it gave me
the message "SCSI error ... id 4 lun 0 rc=27010000", then "I/O error 0810
sector 0, unable to read partition table of dev 0810".  Then the kernel
panicked: "kernel panic: no device passed to allocate_device()".  The root
device is /dev/sda3 (0803).  I have six partitions on this SCSI drive. The
drive itself is a Maxtor 1.2GB HD. 

This same card worked on a pre-1.0 kernel, and it works with the Summer
1994 Yggdrasil kernel. 

The machine is basically down for the moment, since the Adaptec card is
pretty flaky, and I don't have the spare cash to replace it.  Help?? 
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From: [email-masked] (Eric Hausgaard)
Subject: Thanx
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:29:38 GMT

First, I would like to say Thanx to everyone who E-Mailed me with their
suggestions with my SMC Ultra Problem.  I came in one day and it started working
beautifully. I have not had any problems since!

Next, could you tell me how I can get the passwd program to use the /etc/shadow
file. in Slackware 2.0 (? the latest from ftp.cdrom.com) I need this so I 
can be compatable with BSDI which the REST of the school is using.

Also, whoever put together the Slackware Distributions, there is a bug in 
the Ytalk implementation.  It kicks out an error but keeps working after.

Lastly, I KNOW this is the wrong place to post this, but with CNEWS,
How the *&#$@&^* do I allow other machines to use my site's net-news (as well as myself)

Thanx again

Eric 

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