Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #871
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:13:41 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #871, Volume #2                 Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:13:41 EDT

Contents:
  Re: New unix new GUI (philip m. thompson)
  Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Harald T. Alvestrand)
  NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday Oct4 (ACC Corp.)
  Re: Linux archives mirror map (Erik Troan)
  Re: Linux Documentation (Erik Troan)
  [Q] Driver for braille-box? (Matthias Bruestle)
  Re: Play Audio CD's on Linux? (Wolfgang Kalthoff)
  Re: kcore [Q] (Markus Haendel)
  Re: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic (Robert S. Cauthorn)
  Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! (Seppo Kallio)
  Postgres Front End (?Ingres ditto) (Ted Harding)

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From: [email-masked] (philip m. thompson)
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
Subject: Re: New unix new GUI
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:03:55 GMT

Sami Cokar ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Now,
:       if only someone would design a FD interface that isn't 
:       based on millions of layers....

Feel free to design one!

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From: [email-masked] (Harald T. Alvestrand)
Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 06:59:49 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Mark Bolzern) writes:
|> In article <[email-masked]>,
|> Svein Erik Brostigen <[email-masked]> wrote:
|> >What amazes me, is that there are so few from the commercial world in
|> >this fora, only from the academic world. Maybe I should take that as
|> >a sign telling me that this is of purely academic interest at the
|> >moment.

Statements like this always make me run to my Linux Counter database.
A VERY fast grep on simple registrations only gave me:

aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | wc -l
    1229
aun% grep 'com:' countlist | wc -l
    1097

This does not weed out duplicates, does not count "form" entries, and
generally only leaves a rough idea, but still...
What is more amazing is that the relation between "home" use and "work"
use is just about the same in both groups:

aun% grep 'com:' countlist | grep 'home' | wc -l
     894
aun% grep 'com:' countlist | grep 'work' | wc -l
     234
aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | grep 'home' | wc -l
     986
aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | grep 'work' | wc -l
     281

That is, 75% home, 25% work.
Linux is not for academics only. But most of us use it at home.

(According to my estimates, between 37.000 and 950.000 use it at work.
This is not an insignificant number)
-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
                [email-masked]
      G=Harald;I=T;S=Alvestrand;O=uninett;P=uninett;C=no
                      +47 73 59 70 94
My son's name is Torbjørn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash.

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From: [email-masked] (ACC Corp.)
Subject: NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday Oct4
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:45:57 GMT

There will be a New York City (and region) Linux Users Group meeting at Unix
Expo at New York's Jacob Javits Center on Tuesday October 4, at 5.30pm.  It
will be in the conference room area on the lowest level.

Please check at the NYC Linux Users Booth #1888 for the room number (or with
the Linux Journal's booth 1881) during the show, ie before 5pm.

The general theme of the evening will be "ask the guru", and we will be
trying to encourage as much interaction between the attendees as possible. 
There will be a panel of knowledgable Linux users on hand to discuss issues
from how to configure hardware, to the future of the Linux OS for both
recreational (DOOM) and corporate use.  The Panel will include:
Michael K. Johnson, editor of the Linux Journal.
Michael Johnston, President of Morse, Publishers of the Slackware
Professional 2.0 Linux CD Package.
Marc Ewing, Developer of the new Redhat Linux Distribution.
H. J. Lu, Coordinator of the Linux Developers Tools project.

The goal will be to have the "audience" contribute as much as possible.

So come out and meet many of the local and a few national Linuxers.  There
will be even be give aways and we'll invite some suppliers of Linux products
and tools, who will be at the show, such as the Linux Journal crew, to drop by.

You can get a complimentary exhibits pass by registering electronically by 
telnetting to: blenheim.com
and logging in as: unix94
choose your terminal mode (ansi or vt100)
and fill in the form. It did odd things when I registered, but seemed to work.

See you Tuesday.

Cheers,  Bob Young,   [email-masked]

ACC Bookstores
"Home of the PC UNIX - Linux Catalog"
1 (800) 546-7274
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Erik Troan)
Subject: Re: Linux archives mirror map
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:07:33 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Scott Barker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Is there any one "official" site where any or all of the following are kept?
>
>        Documentation

The LDP archives at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/LDP are official, as
are the HOWTO and faqs there. The Linux-faq is actually at ftp.cam-orl.co.uk
but sunsite mirrors that nightly.

>        Source/binaries for applications

Which application? X is at ftp.x.org, tex is probably somewhere at Stanford,
gcc is at prep (w/ binaries at tsx-11, mirrored to sunsite), etc. There
are thousands of applications, many of which aren't on sunsite or tsx-11.

>        Source/binaries for kernel development

Source is at ftp.funet.fi, mirrored to sunsite and probably to tsx-11
as well. No binaries should be considerd official - just officical parts
of the various distributions.

>I'm trying to set up a mirror at my site, and I need to know where to fetch
>everything. I believe the home site for Slackware is ftp.cdrom.com, and the
>home site for Debian is sunsite.unc.edu

>However, the various source, binaries and especially documentation seem to be
>different at each of tsx-11, sunsite and funet. I guess I'm mostly interested
>in where the developers in each of those categories put their stuff. 

Depends on the developer. 

Erik

-- 
============================================================================
"Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess

        Erik Troan = [email-masked] = http://sunsite.unc.edu/ewt

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From: [email-masked] (Erik Troan)
Subject: Re: Linux Documentation
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:09:26 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Matt Welsh <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>It certainly should be. Sunsite's FTP seems to be flaky over the
>last few days. You can get the LDP files from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux
>if you can't get sunsite to cooperate.
>

Sunsite's has found some bugs in the OS it's now running. The problems
should be fixd by now, but more may crop up.

Sorry for all of this trouble, but uploading a network server that hands
out well over 6 gigabytes of info a day is bound to run into problems.

Erik

-- 
============================================================================
"Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess

        Erik Troan = [email-masked] = http://sunsite.unc.edu/ewt

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From: [email-masked] (Matthias Bruestle)
Subject: [Q] Driver for braille-box?
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:01:24 GMT

Mahlzeit

Is there a driver for a braille-box available? It is connected
through the parallel port.

                                Mahlzeit

-- 
A leap ahead... through insanity.

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From: [email-masked] (Wolfgang Kalthoff)
Subject: Re: Play Audio CD's on Linux?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:37:48 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Wolfgang Kalthoff)

try workman, should be included with slackware

keep linuxing
Wolfgang
-- 
Wolfgang Kalthoff    | S iemens             | email: [email-masked]
Gustav-Meyer-Allee 1 | N ixdorf             |        [email-masked]
D-13355 Berlin       | I nformation Systems | Tel: +49-30-4673-2951 Fax: 2915
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Markus Haendel)
Subject: Re: kcore [Q]
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 09:15:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Frank J. Potolo <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I have a 16M file in /proc/kcore.  Is it ok to delete it?

ROTFL!
You can't delete it. The only way to remove is, you have to remove
your ram.
But believe it or not the 16M file don't use a bit of your disk-space.

Bye,
        Markus

--
   - Ist das Problem unserer Zeit mangelndes Wissen oder fehlendes Interesse?
   - Weiss ich nicht, ist mir egal!

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From: [email-masked] (Robert S. Cauthorn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 01:46:13 UNDEFINED

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Benjamin Alman) writes:
>From: [email-masked] (Benjamin Alman)
>Subject: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic
>Date: 2 Oct 1994 15:56:09 GMT

>does anyone out there have the moxftp (compiled for mosaic) binaries (and 
>man page(s), docs, app-default-files, etc) they can .tar up and put up for 
>ftp somewhere? I'm running linux, but I don't have the space to compile 
>this myself... Could anyone help me out? THANKS!

>PLEASE reply be email if possible.. thanks!

You can get the binaries at sunsite, if memory serves. Look in /pub/X11/motif 
(or something like that). There will be two files, moxftp.tar.z and mftp.tar.z 
-- the second one is the binary, the first is the source.

Bob

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Seppo Kallio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:53:03 +0200

System Administrator ([email-masked]) wrote:
: First, the original problem as I originally mentioned it:  

: We are running slip to our internet provider, and intermittantly
: experience telnet lockups during logins.  The system either 1) refuses
: connections 2) accepts the connection, but just sits 3) provides a login
: prompt, takes input, and never gives the password prompt (ususally
: creating a login zombie in the process). 

Hip! I have exactly same problmes 1 and 2 without slip !!!!!!! Not the
problem 3.

I have a 66MHz 486 + 32MB RAM + 2GB disk + 2000 (!) user accounts in my 
Linux box.

Usually it works nice, but sometimes the whole net software seems to
do nothing with the new connections.  Login opens the window and
connects, but no "login:" prompt.  Same problems with smtp
connections, they jammmm similar way.  I think all telnet connections
hang somehow or are extremely slow.

In the begining I got "no more sockets" to the /usr/adm/messages.  I
doubled the socket tables in kernel.  It did actually not help,
expect I am not getting "no more sockets" into the /usr/adm/messages.

My laste experiment: I did delete smtp from inetd.conf and started to
run sendmail directly "standalone". I do not know if it helps. I have
not had problems after that, but the week is in the begining. :-(

: Additional information/trends noticed:
: If the lockup occurs, allowing the telnet session with the locked
: connection to sit while starting another is *always* successful. 

This is interesting. I have not noticed that.  Must check it next time
if I have same situation. 

Seppo Kallio        [email-masked]
U of Jyvaskyla
Finland

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From: [email-masked] (Ted Harding)
Subject: Postgres Front End (?Ingres ditto)
Date: 3 Oct 1994 14:01:43 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Ted Harding)

| From: [email-masked] (Rik Zandvoort)
| Subject: Suitable front-end to postgres ?
| Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 09:45:46 GMT
| 
| Postgres seems to work fine with linux, but writing applications is not that
| easy.
| 
| Does there exist any front end that is ported to Linux?
| And where can I find it?
| 
And the same question for INGRES?

Any useful answers would be much appreciated.
Ted.                                     ([email-masked])

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