Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #873
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #873, Volume #2                 Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT

Contents:
  Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!) (John Palaima)
  Re: PPP chat script (Piotr Kapiszewski)
  Is there any way to run Windows software. (C.W. Southern)
  Help with NFS! (Eric Stajda)
  Help! Seyon hangs when started (Konstantin Kostov)
  Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (John Palaima)
  Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week (John Palaima)
  Email for InfoMagic ??? (andre jean francois)
  Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Gerry Simmons Jr.)
  Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Rob Janssen)
  general protection failure (Bill Heiser)
  Where is infomagic? (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
  Re: Announce: inetd for term (ADAM P JENKINS)
  Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Paul Bash)

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From: [email-masked] (John Palaima)
Subject: Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!)
Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:09:53 GMT

>: I have a PostScript File that's over 1.6 Megs great, and if i
>: [snip]
>
>Use "lpr -s filename", which should not copy the file physically
>to the spool directory but make a link to it instead. Of course you
>must NOT modify the file while it is printed.

another option (if you have the disk space available) is to add "mx#0"
to your /etc/printcap -- "man printcap" sez that mx specifies the maximum
size file that can be printed (or something similar :) and that a value of
0 means no limit.  This just went by in col.h (I think :) a while back...

-- 
Richard Cooley Extraordinaire           "Yeah.  Arrgh."
        [email-masked]
        [email-masked]        My opinions, not anyone elses.
        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Piotr Kapiszewski)
Subject: Re: PPP chat script
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:38:54 GMT

Ahmad S. Alrasheedan ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Please, please, please....I need a chat script for PPP login.
: I am open for any contribution :-))

You can try getting stuff via anonymous ftp from:

        darksun.cs.buffalo.edu [128.205.107.24]
        /pub/ppp

That machine is running on a ppp link so be patient.

-Kapi

: Thanx
-- 
Kapi, 542 Baldy Hall, 645-2448

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (C.W. Southern)
Subject: Is there any way to run Windows software.
Reply-To: [email-masked] ()
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:17:30 GMT

I am looking for a way to run windows software on my Liunx Box.  I have
checked out WINE but it won't cut it right now.  Is there a version of
SoftPC that will run under Linux.  I am willing to pay for this if there
is. 

thanks.
 
-- 
Chris Southern                                          RIT Computer Science 
E-mail: [email-masked]               WWW: http://ultb.rit.edu/~cws9669

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From: [email-masked] (Eric Stajda)
Subject: Help with NFS!
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:26:57 UNDEFINED

Hello,
    We are trying to mount a file system from our HP9000 to our Linux box....
In the FSTAB we have the following command:

hp.el.com:\users\smith \tempmount nfs timeo=14,intr

In the rc.inet2 we have:
mount -a -t nfs

We receive the following error on bootup:

mount clntudp_create: RPC: program not registered

Could anyone help with hints on how to solve this problem? 

Please post reply.

Thanks,
Eric

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Konstantin Kostov)
Subject: Help! Seyon hangs when started
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:58:54 GMT

Dear Netters,

I have a problem starting Seyon. The modem doesn't respond to anything I
do. /dev/modem was originally linked to /dev/cua3, which produced a
"modem read error". After relinking /dev/modem to other devices the
best result I got was with /dev/ttyS1 which doesn't give any errors,
but nothing happens when I try to dial, or type anything in the
term emulator window. I've tried all plausible devices in /dev
with no success. The modem is hooked to com4, and I have used all
the settings that work with DOS in the starup file.

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance

Konstantin

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From: [email-masked] (John Palaima)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:21:14 GMT

In article <FAT.94Sep28211545@indy>,
Irtegov Dmitry Valentinovich <[email-masked]> wrote:
>`Fatal Error: Cannot enter Windows, try Doors instead'

This is beautiful...guess it's time to update my .sig, if you don't mind?
please? please? :) :)
-- 
Richard Cooley Extraordinaire           "Yeah.  Arrgh."
        [email-masked]
        [email-masked]        My opinions, not anyone elses.
        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (John Palaima)
Subject: Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week
Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:41:20 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>NT stands  for New Technology, hah,  what's new about 32-bti operating
>systems? ...

for Micro$oft, multitasking etc. *is* new technology!  Or did you mean in
absolute terms? :)

>       I'm not really a big  fan of MicroSloth,  if you didn't  guess

me neither.  But then, who is? :)

>and this was just my $.01 worth :)

me too.

>   . .  Linux, the way to get rid of boot viruses  

oooh, more .sig fodder :)

-- 
Richard Cooley Extraordinaire           "Yeah.  Arrgh."
        [email-masked]
        [email-masked]        My opinions, not anyone elses.
        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (andre jean francois)
Subject: Email for InfoMagic ???
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:31:03 GMT

I did not receve my august release of LINUX, and when I try
to send then an Email I can't join then.

What's wrong ???

Does anyone have there adress ???

Thank you from a desesperate Guy .

JEF.

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From: [email-masked] (Gerry Simmons Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 14:24:39 GMT

Po-Han Lin ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Ok, I didn't know QNX costs major money.  So I am considering
: either 386bsd or linux.  One person said I should get linux because
: 386bsd is monolithic (controlled I guess), while linux is non-monolithic.
: Now the question is, which os better?  Better as in...

: 1) least bugs, and stable IMPORTANT!
: 2) more software available that runs on it
: 3) faster
: 4) more compliance to POSIX (I think standards are good, or am I wrong)
: 5) more people using it.
: 6) more support for third-party hardware (VLB, EISA, modems, etc) IMPORTANT!
: 7) platform for programming.

: I hope someone can seriously asnwer these questions.  Note that Im not
: trying to start a flame.  I appropriately crossposted only to the
: relevant newsgroups that discuss these two operating systems.  I
: don't want to waste time downloading 50 or so megabytes and find out
: that the other OS is better.  Has anyone actually used both systems?
: -- 

Well, I'll just relate some of my experiences to you. I'm currently running
NetBSD. HAve been since Feb '94. In Apr '94 I bought an adaptec 2842 VLB SCSI
board. I also have an adaptec 1542 board. The reason I bought the 2842 was because
I have 32 Meg in my system and with the ISA 1542 I could only have 16Meg or
using a SCSI device crashed my system. I bought this under my own premis that
if the 1542 was supported than the newer, faster VLB board of course would be
supported. Here's where it started.

I started perusing these groups to get any info on a 2842. First thing I'm told
is that Adaptec are being butts, not letting any information go, and insisting
that anyone writing such a driver needed to sign an NDA (non-disclosure agreement,)
and no source was to be provided.

Well I called Adaptec. I'm a hardware engineer and have had good dealings with
Adaptec in the past. Well I did get kind of a "butt" response from a person in
Tech. Support, but this isn't the first time. So I pressed him on the issue, and
he suggested I talk to their Tech. Publ. Hotline or something. Well, to make a 
long story short, I have Tech. Ref. Manuals on the 274x and 284x as well as on the
AIC-7770 RISC processor on the board.

During this time I heard that someone in the Linux camp was developing the driver.
Yea! The person who got me up and running on NEtBSD said it was possible we could
port the driver to NetBSD. Someone else tried to convince me to run Linux. Well
trying to be an open minded person, I ordered the InfoMagic Linux CD. WOW! This
CD had XFree86 source and binaries, Sunsite.unc.edu and more archives, 4 distributions
of Linux, GNU archives, even a preliminary version of WINE (Windows Emulator.)

I thought well there must be a CD like this for NetBSD. The nearest I've found
is TransAmeritech, which is still predominantly a Linux CD, but they also carry
a NetBSD distribuition. Mind you I don't know what version.

Well the guy working on the Linux driver posted something in the USENET about
having a pre-alpha version at rev. 5 on an ftp-site. I promptly grabbed it and
took a look. Now I've never coded anything for UNIX before, but have wriiten a
few drivers for :-( DOS. I posted a note just 2 days ago asking for info on
porting this driver to NetBSD. Some nice gentleman E-mailed me saying it was
impossible since LINUX was developed under GPL, which I later deduced was the
GNU Public License. He said none of this Linux person's code could be used. Now
excuse me, but this seems in direct confrontation with the excuse I heard 2 months
ago about how Adaptec insisted to source code be provided, where GPL insists that
source code be provided.

Needless to say, I'm looking at the real possibility, much as I don't want to,
of switching to Linux. :-( I happen to like NetBSD a great deal.

Gerry Simmons
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X )
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:46:47 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Daniel Damon Roscigno <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I am a new C++ programmer and am looking for a debugger for Linux
>I am currently running Slackware 1.1 with kernel .99pl14
>I will be upgrading to a later version when I get my new CD
>next week or so.  X is not important, I just would like to be
>able to step through code and set a few breakpoints.
>
>Thanks!
>Dan.

If you are using gnu c/c++, then yous shoudl already have gdb, the gnu 
debugger.  If not, grab a copy from one oft he zillion gnu sites...

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 20:34:57 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Andy Beal) writes:

>matt kracht ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Juana Moreno ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: : I just had this idea. There must be a way to simulate a 56.6 Kb connection
>: : without the need unconventional equipment (from the home user point of view,
>: : I mean). May be with just 2 28.8 modems connected to 2 regular phone lines and
>: : some smart low level packet routing ( choosing for a packet the least busy 
>: : line) it has to be possible.

>How do you plan to split (and rejoin) the signals?

That is a task which IP (and TCP) routinely performs...

> What happens if one 
>modem gets a fuzzy line?

Its queue will get longer because it cannot get data moved, and the
other modem will take more of the load.

> That would cause it to hang or fall back to a 
>lower speed, what happens then?  

Same thing.

Rob
-- 
=========================================================================
| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   [email-masked]           |
| e-mail: [email-masked]     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
=========================================================================

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Heiser)
Subject: general protection failure
Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:07:37 GMT

I am having a stability problem with LINUX kernel 1.1.51.  I have had
similar symptoms with 1.1.4X kernels.  Typically the system will run
normally for one to four days, then processes start hanging in a "D"
state and when new commands are invoked they die with "segmentation fault".

The syslog errors look like this:

Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EIP:    0010:00155a84
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000   ebx: fffa8003   ecx: 7f83f000   edx: 00001e09
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b   edi: 01e58580   ebp: 00000000   esp: 01a23f30
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss: 0018
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17329, process nr: 33, stackpage=01a23000)
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0183b0e4 00000fff 0183b0e4 01126000 00000160 
Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db 

Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EIP:    0010:00155a84
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000   ebx: fffa8003   ecx: 7f83f000   edx: 00001e09
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b   edi: 01e58580   ebp: 00000000   esp: 0119df30
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   fs: 002b   gs: 002b   ss: 0018
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17334, process nr: 34, stackpage=0119d000)
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0007e2ac 00000fff 0007e2ac 01a84000 00000160 
Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db 

I think this is what is asked for in the kernel source: README

0018592c D _arp_tables
00185918 d _arp_timer
00155e9c t _array_read
00115e4c T _audit_ptree
0016b79c t _autoconfig
0016f468 t _autoirq_probe

My hardware configuration is as follows:

  486-DX2/66
  32mb memory
  Buslogic BT-445S VLB SCSI-2 HA
  DEC DSP3107L SCSI-2 disk
  Maxtor 8345S SCSI-1 disk
  Archive Viper 2150S tape
  ATI GUP, 2mb, VLB
  32mb swap

I am running a connection to the Internet using PPP 2.1.2a.

Please let me know if there is anything I should try to help isolate
this problem.  Also let me know if you need more info.

Thanks in advance,
Bill Heiser

-- 
Bill Heiser:    [email-masked],  [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
Subject: Where is infomagic?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:22:53 GMT

        I tried to mail infomagic.com but it bounced...

        Did they change their IP or did they just shut down theeir business?

++=============================================================++
||     Forseilles Stephan     ||    [email-masked]         ||
||     Av. FRISSEN 1/14       || ------------------------------||
||     1160 Bruxelles         ||    Fido: 2:291/705.3503       ||
||     BELGIUM                ||    Phone: +32 2 675-61-09     ||
||-------------------------------------------------------------||
|| Home Page at   http://rcibm.ulb.ac.be:8000/~sforseil        ||
||-------------------------------------------------------------||
||  Anarchy is not disorder. Anarchy is the absence of orders. ||
++=============================================================++

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From: [email-masked] (ADAM P JENKINS)
Subject: Re: Announce: inetd for term
Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:14:01 GMT

GASPAROVSKI D. ([email-masked]) wrote:
: NOTE: You will need at term version 2.1d or greater to use inetd.term!
: (version 2.1d can be found at
: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/ALPHA/term-2.1d.tar.gz)

: >From the README.term:

: What is it?
: ===========

: "inetd.term" is a termified inetd (the internet superserver).  It acts
: exactly like the normal version except it also handles term connections.  
: With this, you no longer need to "tredir" on the remotehost. "inetd.term" 
: will probe for a term connection every 30 seconds, and if it finds one, will 
: bind() all the ports according to the config files /etc/inetd.conf and 
: /etc/services.

: How to use it
: =============

: "inetd.term" acts exactly like the normal version, but with 2 extra
: "protocols": termudp and termtcp. Thus, all you need to do is edit
: /etc/inetd.conf as you would normally do, with the new protocol desired.

: Example
: =======
: [snip]

: You'll have to ftp it to see the rest.

: inetd.term is currently available at: 

: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/Incoming
: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming

: but should be moved to:

: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/extra
: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/comm/termstuff

: respectively.

: --
: Dan ...
: [email-masked] (Gasparovski / Daniel (ISE))
: and the living will envy the dead

: --
: Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: [email-masked]
: Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.

I checked both these places and didn't find it.  Has it been moved
since this was posted?

==============================================================
Adam P. Jenkins
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Bash)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 15:53:39 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jeff Kesselman <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>, Paul Bash <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>In article <[email-masked]>, Jan Willems <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yggdrasil users,
>>>
>>>I'm stuck with a few questions:
>>>
>>>-    Is there a solution to the above described problem?
>>>-    Why is it that the fall 1993 CD was allright as far as I knew,
>>>     the summer 1994 gave me a lot of problems right away and this one won't 
>>>     install simple packages in Xwindows?
>>>-    Is this really plug & play? Is it my fault? Am I doing things
>>>     wrong? Did they test it?
>>>-    Last but not least, are there any other CDROM's that say
>>>     they are plug & play. I might get me one.
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>     Jan Willems.
>>
>>Having worked with both of them, the obvious solution to the Yggdrasil 
>>problems is to junk the CD and buy the Slackware PRO CD. While the Yggdrasil
>>CD-ROM shows a lot of promise, it is far behind the Slackware distribution
>>in terms of "Plug and Play".
>>
>>Yggdrasil is cute if you only want to burn 10MB of hard disk space and don't
>>mind a _slow_ system running from CD-ROM. Past that, its a mess. One example: 
>
>(various other vitriol deleted...)
>
>This helpful person, while treating us to his delightful rants, has 
>deleted the actual question asked to begin with (which figures) so its 
>kind of hard to help.
>
>I'm running Yygdrasil  fall94 quite nicely. I am EXCEEDINGLY happy with 
>it, the docs that came with it, and the Linux bible I bought that 
>Yygdrasil publishes.
>
>If whomever posted the original question would like to mail it to me, Ill
>see if I can help. 
>
>In a democracy everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion....
>(I won't finish that thought.  Those of you out there inclined to agree 
>with me will be able to finish it for yourselves, and this way I don't 
>start a flame war with anyone else. :)  )
>

Hi Jeff,

Having a nice day?

If you will notice, I was not attempting to respond to the original question
but, rather, to to Jan's comments. It is quite common, and even expected, to
edit out the irrelevant parts of a post you are responding to. Saves bandwidth,
so they say.

Since you are also on Netcom, I see, then I suggest that you try 1) a decent
newsreader that allows you to backup through a thread, like trn and 2)
the "P" key (you know, the one just above the ";" key). That will allow you
to step back as far as you need to see the beginning of this thread. Or do
you just feel like raving on someone who criticizes your baby? 

As for your aspersions that I have some kind of hard-on for Yggdrasil, I 
install and maintain UNIX systems (mostly SunOS) as a consultant for a living.
I've seen tons of installs and I know a mess when I see one. Other comments
in this thread and other threads throughout the Linux newsgroups bear that
out. I _did_ say that Yggdrasil shows a lot of promise. It just isn't there
yet. 

My comments were constructive and to the point. Hopefully Yggdrasil will 
read these and others here and take more care the next time. In the meantime
the Slackware distributions I've used have always worked perfectly and give
much finer control over the install process. Jan asked if there was a better
CD out there and I told him.

Do you have a problem with that?

-- 
Paul Bash   
[email-masked]

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