Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #877
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 12:13:12 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #877, Volume #2                 Tue, 4 Oct 94 12:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Richard L. Goerwitz)
  Re: Database for linux? (Willy.Wittesaele)
  Re: Suitable front-end to postgres ? (Kai Petzke)
  New book for Linux! (David Reeve Sward)
  DCE RPC and IDL Compiler Source to be Accessible Via the Internet (Harald Milz)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  TMOSAIC (Scott A. Janousek)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: Hmmm (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) (Kevin Lentin)
  [q] Anyone using the BBS  sw? (Steve Matthews)
  What GNU Tutorials would you attend? (Richard Stallman)
  REQ: MIDI-sequencer for Linux (Tschirley_Rene)
  Linux as print-box very good, but ...  (Markus Gruenkorn (MAGIC))
  Windows accelerator and Cirrus Logic  ([email-masked])

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
From: [email-masked] (Richard L. Goerwitz)
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 13:07:24 GMT

[email-masked] writes:
>>
>>I'm attempting to find a word processor for Linux.  One that will
>>allow me to create reports, and type up documents.  
>
>TeX is extremely powerful, but if you want WYSIWYG editing, it's not what you're looking for.
>
>Oh yes, it's worth mentioning that once you've got a good template up and running, with
>your generic styles set up correctly, you can hammer out large documents much faster
>than you would with for example MS Word, simply because you're using a text editor
>with it's faster keyboard response, editing shortcuts, and you don't have to keep 
>going from mouse to keyboard.

Still, it is not as if style sheets can't be done using major word proces-
sors.  And I'm not sure that TeX is really the right thing to bring up for
average users.  It's just not a word processor in the sense that most of
us use those words.  Any system that separates editing from viewing just
adds another gratuitous layer of indirection to the process of producing
documents.

-- 

   -Richard L. Goerwitz              [email-masked]
   [email-masked]          rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer

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From: [email-masked] (Willy.Wittesaele)
Subject: Re: Database for linux?
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 09:36:42 GMT

zachary brown ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Is there a database program for Linux, of similar power to something
: like SPSS?
: 
: Thanks.
: 
: -ZB-

Hello ,

I thought that SPSS is a statistical package and not a database !

Willy
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Kai Petzke)
Subject: Re: Suitable front-end to postgres ?
Date: 2 Oct 94 11:29:40 GMT

[email-masked] (Rik Zandvoort) writes:

>Postgres seems to work fine with linux, but writing applications is not that
>easy. 

>Does there exist any front end that is ported to Linux?
>And where can I find it?

There are at least two: spog and pgbrowse.  The later is a graphical
browser for postgres tables.  You can use it for looking up data in
a table, or entering new data:

ftp:

        marie.physik.tu-berlin.de:/pub/linux/postgres/4.2.contrib
        s2k-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:/pub/postgres/unofficial-ports/linux/4.2.contrib
        ftp.lysator.liu.se:/pub/linux/postgres/4.2.contrib

Kai
-- 
Kai Petzke                      | How fast can computers get?
Technical University of Berlin  |
Berlin, Germany                 | Sol 9, of course, on Star Trek.
[email-masked]   |

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From: David Reeve Sward <[email-masked]>
Subject: New book for Linux!
Date: Tue,  4 Oct 1994 09:10:00 -0400

Well, I just heard of it.  In the October CACM on page 43 is an ad from
Springer-Verlag for _Linux_-_Unleashing_the_Workstation_in_Your_PC_. 
The cover has a picture of a "Friends don't let friends use DOS" button
:).

The blurb:
"Linux has emerged as a viable alternative to commercial UNIX systems,
with its ability to turn a 386/486-PC into a UNIX workstation with
performance characteristics comparable to a RISC workstation.  As the
definitive guide to Linux, this book instoduces the concepts and
features of Linux and explains how to install and configure the system. 
Moveover, it describes the features and services of the Internet which
have been instrumental in the rapid development and wide distribution of
Linux.  This book focuses on the Linux graphical interface, its network
capability and extended tools.  Using the book, readers can get started
quickly with Linux and begin to explore a wide range of shareware
applications that are available for the system."

1994/238 pp., 50 illus./Softcover $29.95
ISBN 0-387-58077-8

You can order directly from S-V at 800-SPRINGER (NJ: 201-348-4033), FAX
201-348-4505, reference S966.  It includes a 30-day return privilege.

Note: I have no connection with Springer-Verlag.  I've never actually
seen the book.  Caveat emptor.  I just think it's cool that Linux is
getting coverage like this.
-- 
David Sward     [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Harald Milz)
Subject: DCE RPC and IDL Compiler Source to be Accessible Via the Internet
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 09:51:18 GMT

That's what I found today: (maybe someone's interested in using it ;-?)

>>  OSF, HP AND DIGITAL TO ACCELERATE USE OF THE DISTRIBUTED
>>   COMPUTING ENVIRONMENT THROUGH PUBLIC DOMAIN SUBMISSION
>>
>>  DCE RPC and IDL Compiler Source to be Accessible Via the
>>                          Internet
>>
>>
>>   NEW YORK, October 3, 1994 -- Digital Equipment
>>Corporation, Hewlett-Packard Company and the Open Software
>>Foundation today announce that they will be providing key
>>communications and application development components of the
>>Open Software Foundation's Distributed Computing Environment
>>(DCE) into the public domain.
>>
>>   Both the DCE remote procedure call (RPC) and the interface
>>definition language (IDL) compiler will be submitted to the
>>internet for access by anyone interested in using the
>>technologies for distributed application development.  This
>>access to key components of DCE will be royalty-free and
>>open, further encouraging and accelerating the use of DCE by
>>developers.
>>
>>   "Having DCE RPC in the public domain furthers the goal of
>>the open systems industry by facilitating interoperability
>>standardization," said Peter Shaw, Director of Business
>>Development at OSF.  "Standardizing the interoperability
>>mechanism is key for distributed systems."
>>
>>   The DCE RPC provides the communications infrastructure for
>>building distributed applications that can communicate with
>>other DCE applications.  The IDL compiler is used to generate
>>the client and server application components, known as stubs,
>>required for applications to run in the DCE environment.
>>Together, these components provide application portability
>>and interoperability across heterogeneous platforms.
>>
>>   The DCE RPC and the IDL Compiler software technology was
>>originally submitted to OSF to be part of the DCE by HP and
>>Digital.  Digital and HP continue to provide support and
>>enhancements on an on-going basis.  Now, both companies are
>>working with the OSF to enable public access to these
>>technologies and subsequent enhancements on an on-going
>>basis.
>>                           -more-
>>   "DCE is rapidly expanding in acceptance and purchase in
>>the marketplace.  Virtually every large company is specifying
>>DCE as a key enabling technology for their distributed
>>computing infrastructure,"  said Carol G. Mills, general
>>manager of HP's General Systems Division.  "Our response to
>>this exceptional customer demand is to increase the pace of
>>innovation and application availability through public domain
>>access."
>>
>>   "This is a very important step for the industry," said
>>William R. Demmer, vice president of Digital's Software
>>Business Group.  "We believe that a freely available RPC will
>>help to speed the industry adoption and use of this important
>>technology, and will enable users to gain many of the
>>important benefits of DCE.  As co-developer of the DCE RPC,
>>Digital is pleased to jointly provide this technology to the
>>industry."
>>
>>   Both the DCE RPC and the IDL Compiler will be accessible
>>to the public via the internet by October 15th, 1994.
>>
>>    The Open Software Foundation delivers open systems
>>technology with the objective of enabling users to exploit
>>information technology to improve the way they do business.
>>OSF supplies software to make information technology easier
>>to learn and easier to use, while enabling various vendors'
>>equipment to work together, sharing applications and
>>information across distributed open computing environments.
>>OSF has created a coalition of vendors and users who work
>>together to provide the best available open systems
>>technologies.  Headquartered in Cambridge, MA, with offices
>>in Brussels, Grenoble, and Toyko, OSF has more than 400
>>members worldwide.
>>
>>   Digital Equipment Corporation is the world's leader in
>>open client/server solutions from personal computing to
>>integrated worldwide information systems.  Digital's scalable
>>Alpha AXP platforms, storage, networking, software and
>>services, together with industry-focused solutions from
>>business partners, help organizations compete and win in
>>today's global marketplace.
>>
>>   Hewlett-Packard Company is an international manufacturer
>>of measurement and computation products and systems
>>recognized for excellence in quality and support.  The
>>company's products and services are used in industry,
>>business, engineering, science, medicine and education in
>>approximately 110 countries.  HP has 97,900 employees and had
>>revenue of $20 billion in its 1993 fiscal year.
>>
>>                            # # #
>>
>>Open Software Foundation and OSF are U.S. trademarks of the
>>Open Software Foundation.

-- 
User n.:
        A programmer who will believe anything you tell him.
-- 
Harald Milz ([email-masked])      WWW: http://www.ix.de/editors/hm.html
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      phone +49 (511) 53 52-377
Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover     fax   +49 (511) 53 52-378
Opinions stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's.
ons stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's.

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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 04:03:22 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Scott A. Janousek)
Subject: TMOSAIC
Date: 3 Oct 1994 19:22:20 GMT

anyone know where I can find TMOSAIC for linux?

or any other kind of linux?

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: 3 Oct 1994 01:44:46 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
> Will someone please drive a stake through the heart of this issue.
> How do you pronounce "C++" in Danish?

Si-ploos-ploos

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[ [email-masked]  |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
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From: [email-masked] (J.J. Paijmans)
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
Subject: Re: Hmmm
Date: 4 Oct 1994 09:45:12 GMT

>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Mitchum DSouza <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>Huh ? What is Natworkin and that logun thing anyway ? Do you think it is worth 

Considering that "Natworking" translates in dutch as "Wetworking", I am
not sure that I would want to know... :-)

Paai.

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X )
Date: 3 Oct 1994 01:45:17 GMT

Daniel Damon Roscigno ([email-masked]) wrote:
> I am a new C++ programmer and am looking for a debugger for Linux
> I am currently running Slackware 1.1 with kernel .99pl14
> I will be upgrading to a later version when I get my new CD
> next week or so.  X is not important, I just would like to be
> able to step through code and set a few breakpoints.

gdb
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From: [email-masked] (Steve Matthews)
Subject: [q] Anyone using the BBS  sw?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 06:14:46 -0400

Been asked to look into setting up a BBS, and wondered if anyone has experience
in using the Linux BBS s/w..any advice would be welcome.

thanx

sjm
-- 
          |   Steve Matthews.         Mail: [email-masked]        |
          | Gandalf Tech Support. Gandalf UK.  Usual disclaimers apply.      |

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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 03:04:56 -0400
From: [email-masked] (Richard Stallman)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: What GNU Tutorials would you attend?

We are thinking of having a GNU technical seminar in Cambridge,
Massachusetts next April or May.  One day will be a series of talks,
mostly technical overviews; the following day we are thinking of
having tutorials.  Tentatively we plan to charge $300 for the day of
talks, and $180 for each half day tutorial (students 1/4 price).
(These prices may change; consider them order-of-magnitude estimates.)
The funds raised, beyond the cost of the seminar itself, will go to
support GNU development.

To plan the tutorials, we need to find out what tutorial topics people
are interested in.  Here are the topics we are thinking about.

* Emacs Lisp programming.
* Advanced Emacs editing.
* Hurd programming.
* Using GNU Make, Bison, and Flex.
* Writing documentation in Texinfo.
* The Linux kernel.
* Using Autoconf to write portable programs.
* Porting GCC.

If you think you would actually attend one or more of these tutorials,
please send mail to [email-masked] and tell us which
ones.  We'll use the response to figure out which tutorials to offer,
and how to schedule them.

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From: [email-masked] (Tschirley_Rene)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,aus.computers.linux
Subject: REQ: MIDI-sequencer for Linux
Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:11:20 +0100

Hi!

Regarding the low prices for hardware and possible performance I'm
thinking about buying a Linux-system.

Very important for making my decision is the existance of a
(semi)professional MIDI-sequencer like Sibelius 7 (Acorn Archimedes),
Bars & Pipes (Commodore Amiga) or anything similar to these ones known
on Atari or Apple Macintosh.

Recommended:
- GUI
- good timing, even at high loads
- high comfort concerning manipulation of MIDI-events (note-data,
  velocity, aftertouch etc.)
- flexibility concerning the usable synthesizers (much interest in
  compatibility to Technics KN-800, Roland JV-30 and Kord 01/W)

Would be nice:
- more than 24 tracks
- Output of completely formatted note sheets (as a preview or even
  better as DTP, maybe an interface to MusicTeX)

Already existant? I'm sure, but how's the quality? I would be very
pleased if some like-minded people would reply for a small chat...

Oh yes, I'm likely to buy a Intel 486 DX-II/66 (maybe important for
                                                      performance :)

-- Rene                                                    \|/
                                                          (O O) 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.ooO~(_)~Ooo.~~~~~~~~~
Rene Tschirley,                          "...ich wollte doch nichts           
 [email-masked]  or  [email-masked]               kaputt machen..."
Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin GmbH, Glienicker Str.100, 14109 Berlin, GERMANY

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: rg1734@edfd (Markus Gruenkorn (MAGIC))
Subject: Linux as print-box very good, but ... 
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 13:12:09 GMT

Hi guys !
We have a very heterogeneous network with the Operating Systems :
Solaris, Sun-Os, Os2, DOS/WINDOWS, MAC-OS, CLIX,OS 400, IRIX, AIX, HP-UX,
sco-xenix, linux, ... 
Linux can easy be used as a print server for most of the OS's .
Most of the unix/os2 systems print to the linux-box using lpr (berkley printing
 system), and the dos/windows systems print files whith pcnfs own printing mechanism .
It would be very nice if I can find an implementation of the system-V print spooling
for linux, because there are some unix systems which only have a system-V style print spooling implemented!
Any information is appreciated !
Thanks in advance !

-- 
====== < MAGIC > ======

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Windows accelerator and Cirrus Logic 
Date: 4 Oct 94 10:55:09 +0100

Hello everybody,

can someone tell if the window accelerators for the cirrus
logic graphics card are already working. If so where
can I get that version.

Please respond by Email as I don't regularly read this newsgroup

Ruud Schramp

[email-masked]

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