Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #885
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 03:13:22 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #885, Volume #2                 Thu, 6 Oct 94 03:13:22 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Curious: Why is Linux DOOM so much slower than DOS doom (root)
  Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! (Steve Kneizys)
  Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (S. Joel Katz)
  Re: Help for NCR 53C810 SCSI disk & Video ATI-68800 chip set (H. Peter Anvin)
  malloc() error, won't use swap space. (Steve Rojem)
  Re: diamond stealth status? (Jinwoo Shin)
  Re: Bash Arrays[?] (Pete Chown)
  BusLogic 747S vs newer 757S (???????) (MTSU ISDNLIN SysAdmin)
  Framemaker on Linux?  (was: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?) (Charlie Krasic)
  Need boot disk for disk with 32 heads (1.1.49?) (Bob Oesterlin)
  [ppp] One works, the other almost works. ([email-masked])
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Spencer PriceNash)
  Re: Split this group! (.help) (Art Walker)
  Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz (Bryon G. Rigg)
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (MacGyver)
  Re: Linux on a 386 (Richard Stone)
  Re: New book for Linux! (Jeff Kesselman)

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From: [email-masked] (root)
Subject: Re: Curious: Why is Linux DOOM so much slower than DOS doom
Date: 6 Oct 1994 03:18:55 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On high end machines, the performance of Linux-DOOM really isn't that bad.

In 640x480 on a 100 Mhz Pentium,  DOOM scores 34.9 frames per second...and
it has maximum 35 fps!

Jered
[email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze!
From: [email-masked] (Steve Kneizys)
Date: 3 Oct 94 00:26:45 EST

Matti Aarnio ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Steve Kneizys) writes:
: >Trevor Lampre ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >: Many have. I have posted twice myself about it and seen at least 5 other 
: >: posts not including this thread. I have never seen a response and my emails
: >: to other posters has never been answered. It's pissing me off that nobody
: >: seems to know the answer or have a fix. I've been patching my kernel up
: >: to 1.1.51 (I think it got worse at .51) as well as rebuilding my daemons.
: ...
: >: Trevor Lampre.

: >I have started a couple such threads...nobody posted a solution.  It 
: >does not bother me that there is a problem, especially with development
: >versions, but that so many people have posted and never an acknowledgement.  
: >I would feel better about things, especially in the era of a code freeze
: >where release 1.2.0 is imminent, that somebody is working to try and patch 
: >this before that version is out :)  What post was it that you saw this
: >possible fix with the newest networking code?  

:       Compile with  "PC/TCP compability ON",  and it apparently works
:       a lot better...

:       The real problem is being investigated!

: >Thanks!
: >
: >Steve...

:       /Matti Aarnio   <[email-masked]>

Thanks for the tip!

Steve...

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From: [email-masked] (S. Joel Katz)
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
Date: 5 Oct 1994 18:57:25 -0400

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Holland) writes:

>[email-masked]'s message of 28 Sep 1994 11:57:51 -0400 said:

> >     There is a correct pronunciation and an incorrect pronunciation. 
> > The 'I' is short. Linux almost rhymes with 'shucks'. Or, if you prefer 
> > 'Lih-nuhks'.

>Wrong. The correct pronunciation can be gotten in .au form from
>Linus's ftp site. 

>What you cite is not it.

        For the last time: Linus pronounces Linux as 'Lee-nooks', but he 
suggests that it be pronounced in other languages in the way that sounds 
the most natural. "Lih-nus" is the closes English equivalent. If you want 
to pronounce it as Linus does (Lee-nooks) go ahead, but you will sound 
really weird.

-- 

S. Joel Katz            Information on Objectivism, Linux, 8031s, and more
[email-masked]      is available at http://www.panix.com/stimpson/
        Time flies like an arrow -- fruit flies like a banana.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Help for NCR 53C810 SCSI disk & Video ATI-68800 chip set
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 03:31:44 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Pradeep Chetal)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux
> 
> BUT when I create the boot disk from setup, the kernel there is 
> NOT capable of NCR SCSI. How can I update the system kernel & boot
> disk kernel to be same as the root disk 'ncr' kernel.
> 

You will have to grab the latest version of the Linux kernel from a
suitable FTP site first.  Then,

cd /usr/src
umask 022
rm -rf linux
tar xvvfz linux-1.1.xx.tar.gz
cd linux
make config                     <- Select suitable options
make dep
make clean
make zlilo
cat /vmlinuz > /dev/fd0         <- Makes boot disk

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Steve Rojem)
Subject: malloc() error, won't use swap space.
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:03:20 GMT

I've been developing a MUD for about a year now, and while it runs on an SGI,
I (of course) prefer to do my development at home on my Linux box mainly 
because its more convienient and much faster.  I do my work at home and upload
the changes to the SGI.  Every 2 or 3 weeks I download a new set of source from
the SGI to my linux box as there are 3 other coders working on the project as
well.  Its always ran great under Linux up until my last source update, and
now I'm getting a funny error, which I'll just quote right off:

malloc failure: Out of memory
IOT trap

The application takes about 14 megs to run once the databases are all loaded.
Watching from another VT with top I notice that the app is dying right at the
point where physical ram is depleted.  It is not dipping into swap space at
all.  (I've got 16 megs physical and 16 swap)  Neither is it using any of the
ram set aside for 'buffer' which is usualy quite a bit.  In fact I've got
enough physical ram to run the app if it would use it.  The odd thing to me
is that This program has always run up until that last update, however I've
been unable to find anything different in the code to do with memory
allocation.  And we use RCS so it would have been easy to find.

I'm runnin Kernel 1.1.38 and gcc 2.5.8.

Any ideas what would keep malloc() from using swap space or even stealing
some space away from the buffer area?

Thanks for any input!
-Steve Rojem

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From: [email-masked] (Jinwoo Shin)
Subject: Re: diamond stealth status?
Date: 5 Oct 94 01:20:00 GMT

[email-masked] (Dan Pop) writes:

>In <[email-masked]> Karl Rudnick <[email-masked]> writes:

>     4. Wait. From the recent announcement of XFree86 3.1:

Once again , contrary to popular belief, there are ways to make these Diamond
cards work. The main problme is that Diamond uses proprietary clock chip and
they don't like to make public about its workings. For instance, I have Diamond
Stealth Pro which is S3928 with Diamond Clockchip and SS2410 RAMDAC.  I have it
working currently under XFree86 3.1 and have since 2.0. Diamond's clockchip
seems to be compatible with one that's used by #9 928 card. (Forget the name
icu*****) and for 3.1 "s3gendac" works for its ramdac. The best thing you could
do is read all the docs, pull out your card, look at all the little numbers on
significant chips, then play around with it.

-- 
Jinwoo Shin                             [email-masked]
System Administrator                    
Berkeley Sensor and Actuator Center

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From: [email-masked] (Pete Chown)
Subject: Re: Bash Arrays[?]
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 10:51:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Kevin K. Lewis) writes:

> Bash does not have arrays.  I've heard rumors of Bash supporting
> arrays in the future, though.

Lots of other people will probably say this as well, but Perl does
have arrays.  And quite a lot more--it is a much better language for
writing scripts in than any of the shells I have tried.  It is faster
as well.

I think splitting the script language off from the command interpreter
is a good idea.  Shells need to be quick and easy to use
interactively, whereas script languages need to be efficient and well
structured.

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From: [email-masked] (MTSU ISDNLIN SysAdmin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: BusLogic 747S vs newer 757S (???????)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:05:53 -0500

Hello,

I have heard that for EISA SCSI on linux, the BusLogic 747S is a safe 
bet!  I have read this also in the SCSI-HOTWO.  But now, there is a new
card out called the BusLogic 757S!  Is the 757S fully compatible with the
747S????  Will the 757S work (RELIABLY!) with Linux 1.1.49???

Many thanks!

Mark

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From: [email-masked] (Charlie Krasic)
Subject: Framemaker on Linux?  (was: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 02:00:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis) writes:

> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
> Organization: Lake Taylor Hospital Computer Services
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 03:05:43 GMT
> 
> 
> Time to change OS's?  Maybe you could run the newer version remotely....
> or, if for some reason you hate WP, not just the DEC 5.0 version, then
> use something else.... $$$$ Framemaker,  Island Write,  On-Go,  Applixware...
> 
> And all the above have SCO versions which should also run under Linux IBCS!!!

Does anyone have more details about running SCO Framemaker under
Linux?  Does it work well?  How would it compare to running the
current DOS/Windows version?

-- Buck

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From: [email-masked] (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Need boot disk for disk with 32 heads (1.1.49?)
Date: 5 Oct 1994 02:07:37 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hmpf - it would seem all the bootimages I can find do NOT support
more that 16 heads. I seem to recall that the 1.1.49 kernel fixes
this - does anyone have a boot image of that kernel? 

I am trying to do an initial install on my 540 meg disk with
heads=32,sec=63,cyl=512 (540 meg drive)

Can anyone help me? Just point me to an ftp location...

Thanks, Bob

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Bob Oesterlin, IBM AS/400 Division       Dept 54T, Rochester MN 55901
IBM IPNET: [email-masked]        Internet:[email-masked]
Phone: (507)-253-4528 (tie) 553-4528     ICBMNet: 44N 92.5W

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ppp] One works, the other almost works.
Date: 02 Oct 1994 06:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Bill Hogan)

  Made some progress, but not there yet.

  Let me try to isolate the difference.

  1. Here is where snarf.com craps out:
===========================================================

  [...]

Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE 
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: (45)
Oct  1 21:15:34 bedlam Oct  1 2
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: received ADDR 
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: (0.0.0.0)
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]:  (ACK) 
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>]
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 2, id 2.
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Untimeout 2194:114e0.
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Setting itimer for 0 seconds in untimeout.
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: ipcp: up
Oct  1 21:15:30 bedlam pppd[74]: Could not determine remote IP address
                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  [...]

Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: fsm_rtermack(LCP).
Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: Connection terminated.
Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: set kernel debugging level to 2
Oct  1 21:17:08 bedlam pppd[74]: Exit.

  2. Here is what interramp.com does:

============================================================

  [...]

Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE 
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: (45)
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]:  (ACK) 
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: received ADDR 
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: (38.145.180.110)
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]:  (ACK) 
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x4a <compress VJ 0f 00> <addr 38.145.180.110>]
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 2, id 74.
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: IO signal received
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: IO signal received
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 <addr 38.10.180.76> <compress VJ 0f 00>] e0 f7
                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct  1 21:19:04 bedlam pppd[116]: fsm_rconfnakrej(IPCP): Rcvd id 1.

  [...]

Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: local  IP address 38.10.180.76
Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: remote IP address 38.145.180.110
Oct  1 21:19:05 bedlam pppd[116]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started; pid = 121
Oct  1 21:19:07 bedlam pppd[116]: Alarm
=========================================== and done!

  How come interramp.com gives me its IP address but snarf.com won't?

  Or, what do I have to do (differently) to make snarf.com give me its
IP address?

  interramp.com assigns me a "random" (dynamic) IP address each time I
dial up, but snarf.com (supposedly) assigns me a fixed IP address.

  Is snarf.com maybe saying "I'll tell you my IP address if you tell
me your IP address"?

  Bill

--
Bill Hogan <[email-masked]>

   "Show me a wisdom that is greater than kindness." [J-J.Rousseau]

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From: [email-masked] (Spencer PriceNash)
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 5 Oct 1994 02:33:52 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
Michael_Nelson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Spencer PriceNash ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>-> In the case of becoming very clever, you could use TeX, but I don't
>-> think you wanna hear that.
>
>       Well, there _is_ an intermediate step: LaTeX.  It seems to me to be
>fairly easy to use, compared to TeX.

This is a fun thread.  I'm accustomed to nroff/troff/groff, having
used them for years, and there are those I know who work the same
way I do; there are those who like TeX over LaTeX, and here's a
post for LaTeX.  Nice.
-- 
Spencer PriceNash   [email-masked]   [email-masked]
Dan Quayle via anon ftp: Quotes at umcc.umich.edu in pub/users/quayle, GIFs
and sound files at vaxa.crc.mssm.edu in quayle/gif and quayle/sound.

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From: [email-masked] (Art Walker)
Subject: Re: Split this group! (.help)
Date: 6 Oct 1994 06:14:46 GMT

Byron A Jeff ([email-masked]) wrote:
> The bottom line is that we're being overwhelmed by loads of information:
> mostly FAQs, dozens of responses to the same question, and posts in
> inappropriate places. New groups will not solve the problem because they'll
> simply provide "new clean cultures for bacteria to grow".

> The solution in my opinion is three-fold:

> 1) Don't create a whole bunch of new groups.
> 2) Make all new groups moderated.
> 3) Collapse admin into misc because they're not very much different anyway.

I strongly encourage item #2...
-- 
Art Walker, Somewhere In Iowa           |           [email-masked]
alt.sex/alt.binaries.pictures.erotica/alt.sex.bestiality, etc.
At best, the regulars of these groups are failed phone sex customers...
                                                   - SPY, Jul/Aug 94, Page 85

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Bryon G. Rigg)
Subject: Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:23:00 GMT

I am purchasing an Idek 8617 monitor and want reccommendations for a video
accellerator.  The Idek reports to have refresh rates up 80Hz for 1280x1024.
I am looking for a card that can support this.

I will use this for Windoze and Linux/XFree86 so windows performance is more
important than dos performance.  I have around $275(US) to spend and want the
best performance at the highest refresh rate.

I have looking at prices and foound the ATI Ultra Pro 2Mb (Mach 32) fits
within my operational and monetary constraints.  Can this board give me
the refresh rates that I am looking for?

Bryon Rigg
[email-masked]

#include <stdclmr.h>

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Bryon G. Rigg                                       [email-masked] |
| #include <stdsclmr.h>                                                  |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: [email-masked] (MacGyver)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 5 Oct 1994 13:48:58 -0500

Piet Ruyssinck ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Nick Kralevich ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : Greetings.

: : I'm attempting to find a word processor for Linux.
: stop attempting, install TeX/LaTeX
: : One that will allow me to create reports
: LaTeX does that
: : and type up documents.
: LaTeX does that  

Ok...LaTeX has all this stuff....however, is it at least WYSIWYG?  ie:
Is there an editor for X designed that I can use and have it generate
the appropriate LaTex or dvi output?  Ok, so it sounds like what I'm
asking for is similar to MS Word or something...and it is.  I LIKE not
having to worry about settings or something, and just type up a
document, view how it looks, and THEN play with the formatting if I
don't like it.  If LaTex can do some/most/all of these things, I'll be
on that bandwagon as fast as I can be.  So...can it?  If so where can
I get it for Linux?

HJD.

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From: [email-masked] (Richard Stone)
Subject: Re: Linux on a 386
Date: 6 Oct 1994 03:58:55 GMT

Ian McCloghrie ([email-masked]) wrote:
: When you get right down to it, an Intel 486 is really nothing more
: than an improved 386 with a 387 thrown in for good measure.  The
: architectural differences between a 386 and a 486 are far smaller
: than those between the 286 and 386 or those between the 486 and
: 586/pentium.
Agreed, but those improvements yield a 2x to 3x speed increase at the same
clock speed for a 486 vs. 386.  Esp the onboard FPU (5x the speed of an
external 387 class chip) and single-clock cycle instruction execution.  And
the improvements in chip fabrication (.5 micron and smaller traces) allow the
chip to run at higher clock rates and pack more on-chip features with their
lower latency into the package.

--
Richard S. Stone                                             Network Engineer
The Engineering Design Group
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"      "If it *is* broke, pay us to fix it!"
2-FOR-1 DEAL:  "We'll break it for you and then fix it; for one low price!"
[email-masked]                                               [email-masked]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/* disclaimer.h */
printf("The opinions expressed above are my own, and do not necessarily
represent those of the Engineering Design Group or its affiliates.\n")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: New book for Linux!
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 02:57:31 GMT

Why is it that every publisher/author seems to need to claim that their 
book is 'the definitive reference' to thus-and-such.

Using my basic etemological skills, it seems that definitive would mean 
'defining'.  I think its a little presumptous of this publisher to claim 
that their book (and only their book, as indicated by the definate 
artical 'the') defines what Linux is or isn't.

This is not a big point, or perhapse even very imporant, but its a little 
annoying....

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