Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #916
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 05:13:16 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #916, Volume #2                Tue, 11 Oct 94 05:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Re: PHONE for ACC Bookstore Anyone? (Mark Bolzern)
  Re: Newest Linux Journal? (Mark Bolzern)
  DLL Problems with staticvars (Marc L. Allen)
  Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Bill West)
  Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: DooM: Sound but no Music? (Brian G Long)
  Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (Al Longyear)
  Re: XFree86 3.1, Linux bin: Where are NLS files? (Kaz Sasayama)
  Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Alan Cox)
  Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN) (Alan Cox)
  Re: talk/talkd and ^Z (Alan Cox)
  Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card to buy? (Alan Cox)
  Re: IP Gateway/Forwarding Problem (David - Morris)
  Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (matthew green)
  [pine] where is spell(1) ? ([email-masked])
  Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (Mike Jagdis)
  Replies to replies (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware) (Yan Xiao)

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Bolzern)
Subject: Re: PHONE for ACC Bookstore Anyone?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:03:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,  <edg@tt740 > wrote:
>Does anyone have the phone for ACC Bookstore? They are Linux CD/book
>disktributors.
>^^^^^^
>
>Ed Gonzalez
>[email-masked]

203-454-3242 Tel
203-454-2582 Fax

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Mark Bolzern :  [email-masked]    USA Tel: (303) 699-7470  Fax: (303) 699-2793 
WorkGroup Solutions, Inc.    The FlagShip "CA-Clipper and XBase on Unix" People
  FlagShip is a 4GL Database Development System & XBase Porting Tool for Unix
No Runtime Fees   Info at ftp.wgs.com : /pub2/wgs/Filelist OR mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Bolzern)
Subject: Re: Newest Linux Journal?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:36:07 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Phil Hughes <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Kevin K. Lewis ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>: Can anyone tell me if they've received the newest (November?) issue of
>: Linux Journal, yet?
>
>Well, we publish it and we don't have them yet. :-)  They were shipped
>from the printer on Friday and we should have them on Monday.  Our
>mailhouse promises us that they will go out within 3 days so they will be
>in the mail by Thursday.
>
>-- 
>Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
>usually [email-masked], sometimes [email-masked]

Phil... great mag!!! looking forward to the november issue!!

Oh, and thanks for running the FlagShip piece under NEW PRODUCTS!

We are working on an article for you about the porting process, and what we
ran into.... and I just submitted another on the product, what it is, and
how it benefits the Linux community to Mike... but it bounced, so I sent
it to lydia.....

Hope the email stuff gets straightened out for you....

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Mark Bolzern :  [email-masked]    USA Tel: (303) 699-7470  Fax: (303) 699-2793 
WorkGroup Solutions, Inc.    The FlagShip "CA-Clipper and XBase on Unix" People
  FlagShip is a 4GL Database Development System & XBase Porting Tool for Unix
No Runtime Fees   Info at ftp.wgs.com : /pub2/wgs/Filelist OR mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Marc L. Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: DLL Problems with staticvars
Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:13:16 GMT

I'm having some problems with the DLLs under linux.  It may not be the DLLs,
but a misunderstanding on my part.

Basically, I've got a static object in a library file which doesn't appear
to be properly constructed.

For instance:

class A
  {
  public:
    A(int a) { _a = a; }

    int _a;
  };

static A aa(4);

This code doesn't load up aa::_a with four when I load the sharable library.
At least it doesn't appear to.  Are there some rules or gotchas that I need
to be aware of when using DLLs?

I do have a number of objects with static members which DO get properly
initialized, so I'm quite confused.

Is there maybe a FAQ on DLLs or something?  I'm using DLL Tools 2.11.

Please email any responses to [email-masked]

Thanks,

Marc L. Allen

  

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From: [email-masked] (Bill West)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
Date: 10 Oct 1994 17:05:54 GMT

Lars Hofhansl ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Now you have to setup your modem to "pick up the phone". On Hayes-compatible
: modems you do that with
: ATS0=n where n is the number of rings the modems should wait before it picks
: up the phone (you will most probably want to set n to 0).
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^
On my Hayes-compatible ATS0=0 disables auto-answer so that you cannot dial
in since the modem will not pick up. This was also true for about four
differant brand modems that I have setup.

: You can send the command using sezon,kermit or minicom...
: For me "echo -nf ATS0=0" works, but I heard that doesn't for everyone.

: That's all I did to set it up, and it works for dialin and dialouts;
: problems may arise when using UUCP on the same line. In that case you should
: switch over to uugetty (or getty_ps)...

: good luck,

: Lars

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From: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system?
Reply-To: [email-masked] (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:10:47 GMT

Followup to:  <[email-masked]>
By author:    [email-masked] (Matthew Donadio)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> The term multi-threaded is also often misused.  Then there is the
> confusion about user level threading and kernel level threading.
> Packages like LWP and language features only give the impression of
> threading.  The will still boil down to normal unix-like scheduling.
> If a process has threads using LWP, then the threads will get
> scheduled when the controlling process does.  In a true threaded
> system, each thread will act independant of each other and all other
> threads.  Another feature of threads is "low overhead": sharing text
> space, etc.  But this is becoming downplayed with some of the new
> fork(2) system calls that do the same thing.  I think the original
> poster wanted to know if the linux kernel was multi-threaded (no).
> The easiest way to describe this is that the kernel itself can
> multi-task (system threads).  I'll have to try to find my copy of my
> LynxOS programmers guide to help clarify this.
> 

Actually, the Linux kernel supports multithreading through the clone()
system call, but I believe libc doesn't support multithreading yet.
Remember, since threads share the same address space, multithreading
is visible to libc, whereas multitasking is not.

        /hpa
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From: Brian G Long <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: DooM: Sound but no Music?
Date: Sat,  8 Oct 1994 19:40:21 -0400

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 8-Oct-94 Re: DooM: Sound but
no Music? by Terry [email-masked]. 
> : Somebody posted a message about this a little while ago, but I
> : didn't see any solutions posted.  In particular, I'm running xdoom
> : under Linux 1.0 with the 2.9 sounddriver and a SoundBlaster 16 ASP.
> : I hear all the sound effects, but I don't hear any music.  I made sure
> : the the music volume slider was turned up, so that does not appear to
> : be the problem.

    I get this problem ALL THE TIME in DOS!  The only way I can fix it
    is to go into Windows, quit, then run the program in question.  Doesn't
    this mean there is some problem with the FM-Synthesis mechanism?

    Ugh, the SB16ASP blows ...

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From: [email-masked] (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system?
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 19:48:55 GMT

[email-masked] (Keith Kee) writes:

>Is linux a multithreaded operating system?

No. It is multi-user.
-- 
Al Longyear           [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: [email-masked] (Kaz Sasayama)
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.1, Linux bin: Where are NLS files?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 01:39:18 GMT

>>>>> "Kaz" == Kaz Sasayama <[email-masked]> writes:

    Kaz> I have just downloaded XF86-3.1-{S3,bin,doc,fnt,inc,lib,man}.tar.gz
    Kaz> for Linux, but cannot find any NLS files.  Where can I find them?

Oops, I found them in the cfg part.
-- 
Kaz Sasayama, a Nagoyan X68000 user.
  -- "May the source be with you!"

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:53:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
>(I wouldn't hazard a guess on how soon after a source change is made
>in Linux, it becomes available to the general hacking public.)

It's normally available first, then debugged then submitted into the main
kernel. Of course people who play with alpha test code do so at their own
risk

Alan
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From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:02:04 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Pete Chown) writes:
>When an svgalib program starts, it checks to see whether it has the
>I/O permissions it needs.  If it doesn't, it exec's another program
>which is suid root.  This program checks that the first program is
>entitled to have direct access to the video system; if it is, it
>adjusts the I/O permission bitmap accordingly, and then exec's the
>first program (after setting its euid back to the proper value).  This
>program does what it did last time--looks to see whether it has the
>relevant I/O permissions.  This time, it does have, and starts
>working.

And while its doing the exec I mv a copy of /bin/sh over the original
svgalib program

Alan
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From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: talk/talkd and ^Z
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:04:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Benjamin John Walter) writes:
>I've found that... talk goes pretty hyperactive when I try to suspend
>it!

Thats a bug in curses under Linux - rebuild talk with ncurses. I await the
new libc to see if the new BSD curses fixes all the bugs.

Alan

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card to buy?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 19:02:44 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
>Hey you should get a Xircom Ethernet PCMCIA, (get a modem on it too)
>I used it for: <running at once, mind you>
>
>       exceed/W
>       Novell Netware
>       SNMP agent
>       Chameleon NFS
>       
>Works great, and in exceed/W, you can open about 6 xterms or other TCP/IP
>connects before the adapter says it's stuffed.
>It cost me about 200bux w/o modem.

Pity they wont tell anyone how to program it so only their drivers can be
used - what you gonna do when you change OS and they dont have a driver ?

Get a 3c589 and you can sit running Linux with a good many more than 6
open Xterms 8)

Alan
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From: [email-masked] (David - Morris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: IP Gateway/Forwarding Problem
Date: 5 Oct 1994 20:26:49 GMT

[email-masked] (Jared Reimer) writes:

>Hi. Here's my situation:

>Laptop                    Linux 1.1.51                  
>3Com 3C589 ---ethernet--- Pentium 90 ========PPP========> Internet 
>(PCMCIA)                  USR 28.8k V.34

>I am trying to set up my Linux box as a gateway for my Laptop (with the
>intention of adding additional machines later).
> ...
 
Your internet provider's router must know to send data to your Laptop
via your pentium.  This is normally done by haveing 'routed' in your
machine provide RIP advertising to peer routers. It can also be done
by having your provider establish static routes to your LAN 
addresses.  In my similar situation, I have found it sufficient
to add '-g -s' (overkill?) flags to the routed startup in 
/etc/rc.d/rc.net AFTER my LAN is ifconfigED.  Sometimes it seems
I have to kill and restart routed after running a while but
Ive been up for a couple hours now w/o problem (at the moment
the LAN station is running IBM TCP/IP DOS

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: [email-masked] (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:33:52 GMT

[email-masked] (Alex  Dumitru) writes:

   There's a thought. JMJr running Linux, and posting endless moose droppings
   on the comp.os.linux.* hierarchy... Jesus... ("What?")

take him!  please!  how much do you want?

.mrg.

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: [pine] where is spell(1) ?
Date: 08 Oct 1994 06:06:37 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Bill Hogan)

  Hello.

  I just noticed that the Pine binary I have on my pC does not 
spell-check.

  When I press ^T (in COMPOSE) I *instantly* get "Done spelling check"
even if the text consists of a text-string like "qwerty".

  Also, after I press ^T, the ^G [set help] on the menu gets
overwritten by text of which I can only see this little bit: "or
directory" -- which looks like a piece of "No such file or directory".
 
  Aha, I say, `pine' can't find its spelling-checker, so I go to see
what spelling-checker Pine is looking for and `man pine' tells me this
is `spell(1)'.

  So, I did `man 1 spell'.

  Nada.

  So, I thought, I must have deleted the binary by accident somehwere
along the line.

  I checked my TA CD-ROM.

  I checked my sunsite.ls-lR.

  I checked ftp.cdrom.com.

  I can't find spell(1) anywhere.

  I guess I never noticed this little quirk before because until
recently I was only using my modem to dial into a shell account, but
now I have a PPP connection.

  Does everyone else already know about this?

  No big deal (I use GNUS and RMAIL now, anyway) but I would still
like to be able to use Pine from time to time -- with a
spelling-checker.

  Thank you!

  Bill
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From: [email-masked] (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 20:22:00 +0000

* In message <[email-masked]>, Mark A. Davis said:

MD> These should also work, but I haven't tested them yet-

MD> ClockWise, Foxbase+, FoxPro, Dbase, Applixware,  Grammatik

MD> I have heard of yet many others which have worked.

The fact that many, *many* people seem to be using iBCS but hardly anyone 
talks to me <sniff> would appear to suggest there are few applications that 
have significant problems. I might be reduced to adding 286 Xenix support 
soon :-(.

                                Mike  

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From: [email-masked] (Yan Xiao)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Replies to replies (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware)
Date: 09 Oct 1994 00:21:15 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Daniel Quinlan) writes:

   Yan Xiao (me) <[email-masked]> writes:

   (passwd problem)
 DQ>   This is covered in the Fall 1994 errata.  The errata is available for
 DQ>   FTP at ftp.yggdrasil.com (192.216.244.52) in /pub/fall94/errata.

 DQ>   # chmod 4755 /usr/bin/passwd

Let me first say that we printed out the errata and spent about
10 minutes to figure out where the installation process
should be changed.  Or how do you think we got control-panel
up?

   > 2. More than you asked for: 'more' behaves strangely: in console
   >     (non-X), you'll get segmentation fault.  in X's xterm, you'll
   >     have trouble scrolling.  The problem also affects 'appropos'.

 DQ>   We are unable to reproduce a segmentation fault.  It is always
 DQ>  possible that the copy you are running has been corrupted.

I wouldn't say that if I were you: we copied 'more' from CD
several times, including running directly from CD.

 DQ>   Meanwhile, I might suggest trying `less'.

No comment on that. 

   > 3. Plug-and-Play, no-plug, no-play:  waning CD-ROM can be a challenge
   >     We didn't install everything (has anyone?), thus we picked
   >     packages we wanted from control-panel.  Guess what, we still
   >     have pointers to CD-ROM, such as /usr/X386/lib/libX11*.

 DQ>   Please get a copy of the errata.  It covers this and other small
 DQ>  problems.

Well, one more thing to report on that front.  Due to seemingly
random errors with mail, we did a thorough check.  We found that
'smail' was linked to CD. When CD not mounted, sendmail was just
not started, and thus no connection to sendmail could be made.

And,  copying smail from CD to harddisk may not solve all the
problem, as at least one (I forgot which one) of smail-linked
programs (eg runq, sendmail) was not linked to smail, but
rather to CD, as well.

To other yggdrasil CD users, it is advisable to go
through at least /usr/bin, /bin, /usr/X11/lib, /etc,
and /usr/etc to check whether softlinks to CD are 
suitable for you.  This is of course based on
our limited experience of installing about 250MB of stuff
from CD to the harddisk. If you install significantly
more or less than 250MB, you may not have the concern.

Yan Xiao, U. of Maryland at Baltimore.

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