Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #934
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To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 01:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #934, Volume #2                Fri, 14 Oct 94 01:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  looking for gcc 2.6 (Brian Weedman)
  Re: Is Buslogic 545s (ISA) supported? [ANSWER] (S. Keeling)
  Re: DOOM 320x200 RES NEEDED (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
  Linux Journal (Craig Kawahara)
  Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Alan Osborne)
  Turtle Beach Maui (soundcard)/ICS WaveFront support under Linux? (Alvin Garcia)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (David Reeve Sward)
  Re: Weakest Linux Box (Ian McCloghrie)
  Re: Linux with Intel EtherExpress 16 ??? (Chris Stoffel)
  quota (G. Browning)
  Re: SW Technologies (Dan Pop)
  Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Nate Williams)
  Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Adam J. Richter)
  Re: Split this group! (.help) (Jon Madison)
  Re: help computerize a library (David Barth)
  VideoLogic 928Movie (Bryon G. Rigg)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Marten Liebster)
  Re: Syquest and Linux (Peter Suetterlin)
  Re: What is Linux good for? (Mark 'Enry' Komarinski)
  Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (Zureal)
  Re: Probl. w. Workman1.0 and Mitsumi CD-ROM (Jonathan Noel Tombs)

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From: [email-masked] (Brian Weedman)
Subject: looking for gcc 2.6
Date: 12 Oct 1994 22:50:14 GMT

looking for a compiled version of gcc 2.6.0 for linux. Does anyone know
where to get it. Its not on sunsite or tsx11. If its on one of these
let me know or let me know where I can get it.

--
Brianw Weedman     
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (S. Keeling)
Subject: Re: Is Buslogic 545s (ISA) supported? [ANSWER]
Date: 13 Oct 1994 10:56:28 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>,
Leung Danny Pui Fun <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>I'm going to get a bigger disk for Linux and wondering if Buslogic
>545s (ISA version) is supported. I only know the VLB version is supported.

        FWIW, the Hardware Compat. Howto states that "all models" of
BusLogic stuff are supported.

-- 

 [email-masked]       s. keeling,   aecl - whiteshell labs

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From: [email-masked] (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: DOOM 320x200 RES NEEDED
Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:58:49 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, Crimson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>I am looking for a 320x200 reslution to run Doom for linux.  I have a 
>Cirrus Logic 5428 chipset and Goldstar 14" .28 SVGA monitor.  The
>clock speed I presmue I'll use is 25.23, but I have yet to get anything
>to work.  The monitor's horizontal scan freq is about 31.5.  Any
>suggestions?

Get the new SVGA server from sunsite or elsewhere.  It -says- it's for Xfree
3.1, but it works wonderful with 2.1.1 after a little bit of minor configuring.

Drop me a line if you need help setting this up; I've got a shar archive of 
some man pages and a pre-typed mail message that I can forward you (in case
you can't tell, I've helped a few people w/the new 320x200 SVGA server, so 
don't hesitate to drop me a line).

Andy Ellsworth
[email-masked]

Member, XF86_W32 beta team

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From: [email-masked] (Craig Kawahara)
Subject: Linux Journal
Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:12:20 -0700

How do I subscribe to this linux journal that I've been hearing so
much about?

Craig Kawhara

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Alan Osborne)
Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:53:33 +0000

Hugh Emberson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >>>>> "Carlos" == Carlos Irigaray <[email-masked]> writes:

: Carlos> ttyS2 stands for com3 (under DOS) and is for incoming calls
: Carlos> (difference between cua2 and ttyS2)

: This is becoming a urban legend :-) I used to believe this and it

Not everyone uses mgetty.  I, for example, have always used uugetty
perfectly well with the required cua? for out and ttyS? for in and I
like it.  I don't understand why so many people seem to have a problem
with setting it up.  mgetty is an exception to the rule.  This thread
is getting silly. 

-- 
AlanO

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From: [email-masked] (Alvin Garcia)
Subject: Turtle Beach Maui (soundcard)/ICS WaveFront support under Linux?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:36:53 -0400

I was wondering whether the ICS WaveFront sampler/synthesizer chipset of the 
Turtle Beach Maui soundcard (and some other Turtle Beach soundcards) will be 
supported under Linux (it was not listed as a supported card in the Sound-HOWTO
from tsx-11).  I do not yet own a Maui soundcard, but I am aware that there is 
a "WavePatch" program that allows full control of the WaveFront chipset under 
MS Windows.  I was wondering whether or not a similar program/driver would be 
available for Linux, or do I have to go find my Microsoft Windows installation 
disks ... yuk!  8)

Thanks for any information.

-Alvin

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From: David Reeve Sward <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:38:00 -0400

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 13-Oct-94 Re: Mystery
Chip...AMD by Michael [email-masked] 
> This is not necessarily true. The DX4 has a different layout and needs
> less clock cycles for some commands. This is why Intel calls it DX4 and
> not DX3 (which would be the more logical name), they claim that it
> behaves like a normal 486, *four* times overclocked internally.
> (Physically it's only a triple-clock)

Marketing shlock.  Intel and MicroSquish - two peas in a pod.
-- 
David Sward     [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Ian McCloghrie)
Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:16:46 -0700

[email-masked] (Colin J. Dunn) writes:

>And a 486DLC/40 is probably not more than $130, and would run rings
>around everything. I have read that a 486DLC/40 approaches 486SX/33
>speeds. Of course, a 387DX math coprocessor would push the cost of
>the motherboard over $200... :(

I suspect you haven't looked at 387 prices lately.  An Intel chip
runs about $40, and I've seen Cyrix for $30 :)

I've also seen 486DLC/40 motherboards for about $110 (that's w/ just
VLB).  So figure $150 for 486DLC40+387/40.  Of course, for only $100
more, you can get a DX2/66 with VLB :)

--
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   \/    tv- b+++ D- B-- e- u* h- f+ r n- y*

The above represents my personal opinions and not necessarily those
of my employer, Qualcomm Inc.

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Stoffel)
Subject: Re: Linux with Intel EtherExpress 16 ???
Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:39:42 GMT

Craig Gibson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me if any drivers exist that will allow Linux to 
: detect/use an Intel EtherExpress 16 Network Card?

: Please email replies to [email-masked]

: Thanks

: Craig

   It's pretty easy. You will need to do a kernel rebuild, but that's not to
hard. With the older kernels, there is a line to uncomment in configuration 
file that allows the EtherExpress to be chosen. Do a 'make config' once the 
file is changed. If you choose to update to the newest kernel (I would, I 
used the EtherExpress with the old kernel for quite a while and had some  
problems - once I updated to the newest kernel, they all went away), then
just answer "yes" to the alpha drivers question. If you go for the the kernel
update, see the NET-2 HOWTO. It has the best explanation of where to find 
everything, and it also talks about network software updates.
   Feel free to e-mail me for more details. I went through this whole process
myself and lived to tell the story!

Chris Stoffel                           e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (G. Browning)
Subject: quota
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:35:31 GMT

Does anyone know if quota is available for Linux yet?????????
(for the newest kernel version that is 1.1.53)

Thanks

-Gary

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Pop)
Subject: Re: SW Technologies
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 00:20:29 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) writes:

>Okay, Marvin make a mistake,  we all have.  Jonathan, please
>post your s-mail address and I'll send you the $4.00
>
Are you extending this offer to _every_ SWT customer who had similar
problems?

Dan
--
Dan Pop 
CERN, CN Division
Email: [email-masked]
Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

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From: [email-masked] (Nate Williams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:18:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Othman Ahmad <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Harf) writes:
>> 
>>      I prefer Linux, but I use FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 because it more closely
>> resembles Ultrix, which I have to run on a DECstation which I assist in
>> administrating.
>
>I was told by someone who had not tried *BSD
>that Linux can behave like Sun OS which was based on BSD.
>Similarly with Ultrix. I believe it is a matter of degree of similarity.

Having been an Ultrix administrator for some years, and run Linux for a
very short time and now a FreeBSD developer, I can say with certainty
that Linux is *nothing* like Ultrix when compared to FreeBSD.  FreeBSD
is orders of magnitude closer to Ultrix than Linux will ever be.  Some
would argue that it's not necessarily a good thing. :-)

>From a previous post, I was given the impression that we need to set BSD
>in order to compile easily for Linux.

Set BSD for what?

>Is it possible that the presence of FFS and vfork is contributing to the
>similarity of FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 with Ultrix?

Nope.  Ultrix is probably the last of the commercial OS that is still
primarily BSD based (excepting BSDI's offering).  However, it's being
phased out by OSF/1, so it's a dead-end OS as far as DEC is concerned.

-- 
[email-masked]     |  FreeBSD core member and all around tech.
[email-masked]          |  weenie.
work #: (406) 994-4836       | 
home #: (406) 586-0579       |  Available for contract/otherwise work.

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From: [email-masked] (Adam J. Richter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
Date: 10 Oct 1994 06:36:07 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Dmitri Belosludtsev <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Daniel Quinlan ([email-masked]) writes:
>> Yan Xiao <[email-masked]> writes:
>> > 2. More than you asked for: 'more' behaves strangely: in console
>> >     (non-X), you'll get segmentation fault.  in X's xterm, you'll
>> >     have trouble scrolling.  The problem also affects 'appropos'.
>
>> We are unable to reproduce a segmentation fault.  It is always
>> possible that the copy you are running has been corrupted.
>
>> Meanwhile, I might suggest trying `less'.
>
>It seems that the problem is in termcap entry length.
>Command ``more'' has limit to termcap entry equal to 1024 (Macro TBUFSIZ
>in more.c). If You increase this value ``more'' will run OK.

        I'm glad to hear that you think the problem is not
Yggdrasil-specific.  We can't reproduce this guy's problem, but
because it looks like a it would be useful in other contexts,
I've changed TBUFSIZ to 4096 in our source tree for the next
release.

-- 
Adam J. Richter                           Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
(408) 261-6630                            "Free Software For The Rest of Us."

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Subject: Re: Split this group! (.help)
From: [email-masked] (Jon Madison)
Date: 8 Oct 94 14:44:41 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Art Walker) says:
>

>> The solution in my opinion is three-fold:
>
>> 1) Don't create a whole bunch of new groups.
>> 2) Make all new groups moderated.
>> 3) Collapse admin into misc because they're not very much different anyway.
>
>I strongly encourage item #2...

Now all we have to do is get someone silly enough to volunteer as a
moderator!
>-- 
>Art Walker, Somewhere In Iowa           |           [email-masked]
>alt.sex/alt.binaries.pictures.erotica/alt.sex.bestiality, etc.
>At best, the regulars of these groups are failed phone sex customers...
>                                                   - SPY, Jul/Aug 94, Page 85

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From: [email-masked] (David Barth)
Subject: Re: help computerize a library
Date: 12 Oct 1994 11:50:31 +0100

Robert J. Chassell (bob@cocoa-puffs) wrote:
: Here is a chance to introduce GNU/Linux and other free software to
: small libraries. 

[...]
: The library wants to do three things:

:  1. Very soon: network the PCs together, so staff can access
:     information on a CD-ROM that is on one machine from the other
:     machines.  A single CD-ROM contains all of books in print or what
:     ever; the staff will leave the most frequently used CD in the CD-ROM
:     drive.

:     Suppose the library runs GNU/Linux on its machines, or other free
:     operating system:

:     - What boards should it buy and install for networking?

:     - What needs to be done so that the staff can continue to search
:       and read the various CD-ROM databases, even when using an
:       operating system other than DOS?  

:     - What needs to be done so that the staff can continue to use the
:       word processors, database programs, and spread sheets to which
:       they have become accustomed; or how can the staff shift to other
:       software?  What freely redistributable software should they use?

A few hints for that part :

* buy some cheap ethernet cards, NE2000 clone. I got 2 for ~200$. It's
really faster than serial line and is much simpler to configure.

* make tests with the library's software to see if Dosemu can run it
properly. If it is not a Window program all should work fine.

( well I'm assuming that the software for searching through the database
is a DOS based one. Isn't it ? )

hope this helps...
-- 
D.Barth ([email-masked])         "Linux, the choice of a GNU generation"

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Bryon G. Rigg)
Subject: VideoLogic 928Movie
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:48:21 GMT

Anyone know anything about this board?  I guess that it uses an
S3 928 chip.  Does anyone know if this board will work under 
Windoze and Xfree86?

I recently found a 1Mb version of this board for $199.  The best
price that I found in Computer Shopper is $305.

Thanks,
Bryon Rigg
[email-masked]
-- 
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| Bryon G. Rigg                                       [email-masked] |
| #include <stdsclmr.h>                                                  |
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From: [email-masked] (Marten Liebster)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:28:45 -0400

Brad Matthew Garcia ([email-masked]) wrote:

: In article <[email-masked]>, 
: [email-masked] (Daniel Zappala) writes:
: |> 
: |> In article <[email-masked]>, 
: |> [email-masked] (John Palaima) writes:
: |> > 
: |> > Hah.  Apparently you didn't hear that the Am486 DX/2 66 could be safely
: |> 
: |> But a DX2-80 can't be just a relabeled, overclocked DX2-66. 
: |> It's bus speed has to be 40 Mhz.
: |> 
: |> Daniel
: I think that you are confused, Dan, between a relabled 66 MHz *system* and
: a relabled 66 MHz *cpu*.  They simply put the 66 MHz chip on a 40 MHz
: motherboard (which is also accomplished by changing the speed of the
: motherboard) and...  TADA! - a 486DX2-80!
: -- 
But a poster earlier mentioned that he just bought an AMD 486dx/2 80 CHIP.  
I would have to agree with Daniel, that the chip would internally running at
80 Mhz and externally at 40 Mhz.  This chip would be perfect for my MB - running
at 40 Mhz with a TI 486DLC-40 chip on it.

So when is AMD comming out with a 486dx4-120? :-)  

Marten
-- 
========================================
Marten M. Liebster   Please no flames for spelling,
[email-masked]    I already know I can't spell!!

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Suetterlin)
Subject: Re: Syquest and Linux
Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:03:33 GMT

Georg Pietrek ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I have a Syquest drive (SCSI, 270 MB) and my question is very
: simple (hopefully the answer will be simple, too):
: How can I use it with Linux ?

Yes, it is. Just plug in and play :-)
I suppose you allready have an SCSI-Adapter? If not, you will have to
get a Supported one (well, most are supported), recompile the kernel and
go on. Be shure to have a cartridge in the drive on boot-up. Besides
that, everything should be ok, Linux recognizes it as a simple harddisk.

  Peter

==================   Peter 'PIT' Suetterlin   =================
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|   fuer Sonnenphysik        |                                |
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From: [email-masked] (Mark 'Enry' Komarinski)
Subject: Re: What is Linux good for?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:27:22 GMT

David Reeve Sward ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 12-Oct-94 What is Linux good
: for? by Daniel [email-masked] 
: >   I found this group today.  How well does it do multitasking?  Does it run 
:                                                                   -----------
: > under Windows or DOS?
:   ^^^^^----------------

: *chuckle*  LOL  ROFL!  *sigh*  What's the point of a FAQ list if NO ONE
: READS IT?!

It gives us a reason to say RTFM! (or buy a subscription to Linux Journal)
Sorry..needed that plug in there ;)

In answer to the original question, however:
DOS/Windoze runs under Linux, instead of the other way around.

--
- Mark Komarinski - [email-masked]

Linux: Commercial software gone horribly wrong.

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From: [email-masked] (Zureal)
Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux
Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:57:01 GMT

Andrew R. Tefft ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
: (Mark A. Davis) writes:
: >[email-masked] (Scott Weinstein) writes:
: >
: >>I recently tried to upgrade to XFree 3.1. When I tried out WP, it gave
: >>give me lots of Xm* error and then wold give me a  seg violation. One 
: >>time it
: >>cause my HD to do *something* for about 1/2 hour. I ended up rebooting
: >>that time.   
: >
: >I have heard lots of ***HORROR**** stories about XFree 3.1.  My suggestion
: >is not to use it yet!!!

: I tried mosaic, which is statically linked with motif libraries last
: night; no problem. I run olvwm all the time with no changes and no
: problems, and nearly 10 512mprovement in xbench score. I also used fvwm
: in 300x200 "doom mode".

: I suggest go ahead and try it, but don't throw out 2.1 yet. Maybe it
: is more difficult for Slackware users.

Well, I'm a slakware user, and I've had no problems with it yet.  I 
actually find better performance on my 386 DX/33 with 10 megs of ram.  
The config program is a lot better than the last one (IMHO) too.

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan Noel Tombs)
Subject: Re: Probl. w. Workman1.0 and Mitsumi CD-ROM
Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:32:40 +0100

In article <[email-masked]>,
Heiko Schlittermann <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Christian Urban <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>Hello to Dresden .... and all other nice places ....
>
>>I have problems with my Mitsumi FX CD-ROM and the volume control
>>panel of workman. Workman is written especially for the Sony CDU 
>>drive. You can here Audio-CD with it but not change the volume. 
>>Is there a patch for the Mitsumi drive or is there a option that 
>>a don't know?
>
>As far as I know, none of the known Mitsumi drivers supports sound
>control.  I hope, that I'll be able to put it in my growing driver
>baby.   The control codes are known, but it doesn't seem to work.
>Don't panic and be patient.

As far as I can tell the mitsumis, atleast the old ones don't support
independant volume control, so the balance control will probably always
be broken. As for the know control codes, the only two settings that
seem to work are zero or full volume...

If like me your cd leaves the machine for a sound card (eg SB pro), you
can do like I did and redirect the mitsumi volume control ioctls to the
sound driver mixer controls. With this WorkMan works fine. I don't have the
patches for any recent kernel, but it is pretty easy to do. just redirect
the volume ioctl in the cdrom driver to to bottom of the mixer ioctl of the
sound driver.

Jon.

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