Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #943
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 11:13:15 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #943, Volume #2                Sat, 15 Oct 94 11:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Alexandra Griffin)
  Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working (Stephen Gourdie)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09) (Ian Jackson)
  WANTED: Metrolink Motif Update (1.2.2 to 1.2.4) (Joseph Kuan)
  Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (Alan Cox)
  Re: Weakest Linux Box (Stormy Henderson)
  Re: Weakest Linux Box (Barth Andreas)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Jason Saunders)
  DoomX where (Spire Technologies)
  Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux (Derek Wright)
  Re: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux (Derek Wright)
  Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ? (Randy Hootman)
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Sergei Naoumov)
  Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be (Gerry Snyder)
  inb/inbc not found (Brian Lane)
  Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work? (Rob Ransbottom)
  Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 (Aapo Meili)
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Christian Javet)

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From: [email-masked] (Alexandra Griffin)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 15 Oct 1994 10:11:19 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Byron A Jeff <[email-masked]> wrote:
>->     5. a pim / calendar: something better than "calendar", but simpler
>->        than "organiser";
>
>plan

Could you post an FTP location for this program?  "plan" is too small
a pattern to effectively archie for.  Thanks.

-- alex

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From: [email-masked] (Stephen Gourdie)
Subject: Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 04:49:00 GMT

Eric Silver ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I tried several times to make the rz and rx part of MINICOM work.
: I was trying to download a file from a UNIX BBS and the system
: seems to just sit there. I can perform this same function using
: DOS based PROCOMM PLUS. The order I do things in is;

: $sz filename  [Enter]   from the shell prompt at the BBS
: ctrl-a r
: z             [Enter]
: filename    typed in pop up box

In the 'configuration' menu, under the 'File transfer protocols'
item change program names:

/usr/bin/rz -vv  and /usr/bin/sz -vv 

to

/usr/bin/rz -vv </dev/modem  >/dev/modem

and 

/usr/bin/sz -vv </dev/modem >/dev/modem

and all should work well.

Steve

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Christchurch                  [email-masked] 
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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:03:01 GMT

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted biweekly to
comp.os.linux.announce.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not a contribution to the development
of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration
- should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 1223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Joseph Kuan)
Subject: WANTED: Metrolink Motif Update (1.2.2 to 1.2.4)
Date: 14 Oct 1994 16:20:00 +0100

    Can anyone tell where can I get the update version of Metrolink Motif
for Linux update for 1.2.2 to 1.2.4?

                                                Thanks in advance
                                                Joe (jk94r)

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From: [email-masked] (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system?
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:48:45 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Barr) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Jeff Kesselman <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>So yes, UNIX is multi-threaded in the sens that there are multiple threads
>>of control operating in a time-sliced fashion.  The term 'threading' is
>>often used in multi-tasking system however to denote a 'lesser form' of
>>multi-taskign that goes on completely within a single process.
>
>Not quite.  Most UNIXes (including Linux) are not multi-threaded at all.

Linux has 'clone'. I'd rephrase it as Linux has multi-threading support that
sort of looks neat but nobody is using it 8)

Alan

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From: [email-masked] (Stormy Henderson)
Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
Date: 13 Oct 1994 08:33:10 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Linux Mac Daddy wrote:

   I was just wondering who has the weakest Linux box?  What I mean by this 
   is like anyone running Linux on a 386 with 3 megs of RAM...  I've got a 
   386sx-16 with 5 megs of RAM and it works great (tons faster than DOS).  
   If anyone has a "weaker" machine that runs Linux (and you actually use 
   it) let's hear it....

I ran Slackware 1.1.1 on a 386sx16 with 4 meg ram and a 20 meg hard drive for
3 months.  It had the a, ap, n, and d disks.  Was quite a tight fit.

Be happy...

- Stormy the happinator     "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ
                             Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
  Reply to:                  Shall lure it back to cancel half a line, 
  [email-masked]       Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it."

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From: [email-masked] (Barth Andreas)
Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
Date: 12 Oct 1994 16:54:33 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:

> I was just wondering who has the weakest Linux box?  What I mean by this 
> is like anyone running Linux on a 386 with 3 megs of RAM...  I've got a 
> 386sx-16 with 5 megs of RAM and it works great (tons faster than DOS).  
> If anyone has a "weaker" machine that runs Linux (and you actually use 
> it) let's hear it....
> 

        I run linux on 386SX-33 with 2MB RAM (notebook). Is that weaker
        than yours? (more MHz, less RAM...)

Bye,
 
Andy

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From: [email-masked] (Jason Saunders)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:54:18 +0100

In article <[email-masked]>,
        [email-masked] (Alexandra Griffin) writes:
+In article <[email-masked]>,
+Jason Saunders <[email-masked]> wrote:
+>I wonder if anyone has tried running the new DX2-80 at 90 or 100MHz? Now that
+>would be something to reckon with! A DX2-100 would in fact be faster than a
+>DX4-100.

+But the DX/4-100 *can* be run as a dx/2-- [stuff deleted]

I grant you can do this, but is it worth the extra expense over a AMD DX2-80?
Jason
-- 
                            Jason L Saunders
                       Argo Business Consultants
    22 Samuel Hayward House, Roseberry Avenue, Coventry, UK, CV2 1QR
                          Tel: (0203) 666454

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From: [email-masked] (Spire Technologies)
Subject: DoomX where
Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:05:26 -0700

Where in the world can I find doomX?

-- 
                Spire Technologies Ave.
                Portland Or
                Phone (503)222-3086

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From: [email-masked] (Derek Wright)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux
Date: 9 Oct 1994 20:27:08 GMT

  So far I've had two problems with a recently aquired ATI GU+ VLB card and
Linux (and I haven't even gotten to X yet).  First of all, the card doesn't
seem to want to support the 100X40 and the 100X32 (or whatever it is) text
modes.  When I use vga=ask in the lilo config file, I'm propted with the
possiblites of these modes at boot time, but when I select them, the kernel
just boots into 80X25 mode.  132X25 and 132X44 work ok.  The other problem
is that when I switch between VCs, sometimes the font will get all screwed
up (parts of letters will be missing, etc).  I can reload the font using
setfont and that will fix it, but after a while when I switch VCs or use
selection or try to scroll back into video memory, it gets messed up
again.  The card has 2 megs of DRAM, and I have tried it at all combinations
of the vga memory size option and the memory apature option.  I've tried
raising my wait-states up to 2, and tried changing the bus speed.  The
problem also occures under DOS.  I've run norton's video memory tests under
ndiags, I've run the tests that come with the ATI utilities, both pass
without any problems.  I have an AMD 486DX450 CPU, VLB motherboard, Biotec
chipset, AMI bios, 16 megs of RAM.  The ATI has a RAMDAC of 68875BFN, 2 megs
of 60ns DRAM, and the Mach 32 chipset.  If anyone has any ideas, please email
me.  Thanks.

 -Derek
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Derek Wright)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Re: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux
Date: 9 Oct 1994 20:42:05 GMT

  I forgot to mention in my previous post that when the font does get
screwed up, it seems like only uppercase letters and punctuation gets
altered.  Numbers and lowercase and some punctuation remains normal.  Just
thought I'd mention everything I could think of.

 -Derek

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From: [email-masked] (Randy Hootman)
Subject: Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ?
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 23:54:04 GMT

My Syquest 45M Removeable (SCSI) worked right off the first time. No 
problems!

Randy

: I haven't seen this anywhere, but I was wondering if
: Linux supports any removeable-media drives like Syquest
: or Bernoulli drives...

: -Randy

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From: [email-masked] (Sergei Naoumov)
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:09:59 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Boudewijn) writes: 
|> > You're wrong.  You can easily combine hebrew, arabic, english,,
|> > classical greek, devenagari, aramaic, ... with TeX.  
|> >   There is an extension to the TeX program proper which is called
|> > Tex-Xet.  It is easy to apply the patch when you install TeX.  
|> 
|> And where would this be? I would love to try it out.

Any CTAN archive. Try ftp.shsu.edu in the directory tex-archive/

        Sergei

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+   Sergei O. Naoumov  [email-masked]  tel: (919)962-3998   +
+Department of Physics & Astronomy, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA+
+++++++++++ http://sunsite.oit.unc.edu/sergei/Me/Serge.html +++++++++++

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From: [email-masked] (Gerry Snyder)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be
Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:29:24 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Moises Lejter) says:
>
>In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Andreas Helke) writes:
>
>  moi> I installed Linux from the Yggdrasil Fall 94 CD on a Packard-Bell
>  moi> 486SX33, with 8MB.  When prompted for a swap partition, I declined to
>  moi> specify one, since I planned to set one up later, "on top of" my 
>  moi> windows swap file.
>
>  Andreas> The process I use is to create a appropriately sized DOS
>  Andreas> partition and create a DOS filesystem on it. Save the first
>  Andreas> sectors (root directory and partition table) to a file. I
>  Andreas> activate this partition as linux swap partition when
>  Andreas> booting linux and restore the file to the partition when
>  Andreas> shutting down.
>
>This will work, I suspect, with all the caveats that Andreas describes
>- and it is what I was going to do first.  But, it then occurred to me
>that Linux can mount MSDOS file systems... so this is what I did:
>
>- Create a MSDOS partition for Windows swap, about 10MB - call it
>  drive G: in MSDOS, /dev/hda3 on Linux.
>- Start up windows, tell it to use drive G: for swap, and allocate all
>  but 50K to it (just in case).  Windows complains that it cannot use
>  all of that - I ignore the warning :-) Windows reports 9796K of swap.
>- Quit Windows, boot Linux
>- In /etc/fstab, add something like this (I am not at home...)
>
>        # partition     mount dir       filesys format
>        /dev/hda3       /winswap        msdos
>
>  Drive G: will then be mounted under linux as /winswap.
>- Create a symbolic link, from the shell:
>        # ln -s /winswap/386spar.par /dev/swapfile
>  (not sure that is the exact correct name for the Windows swap file,
>  but you can just do an ls there and see...)  I just wanted the
>  symlink, in case I ever decided to rearrange where that swap file
>  lives...
>- In /etc/rc.multi (or wherever your setup activates swap) add these
>  lines:
>
>        # add Windows swap file as Linux swap
>        mkswap /dev/swapfile 9796
>        swapon /dev/swapfile
>
>   And voila, Linux will swap to that same Windows swap file.
>- You must also remember to undo this on shutdown.  In /etc/rc.halt,
>  add the lines:
>
>        # disable Windows swap file
>        swapoff /dev/swapfile
>
>  *before* the "umount -a" line.  I suspect nothing untoward will
>  happen if you forget this - but it is the "proper" thing to do...
>  :-)
>
>I have read that the Linux msdos file system is slower than the
>others, and I suspect that writing through the file system code is
>slower than writing directly to the raw partition - but it lets me
>reuse the disk space allocated to the Windows swap...
>
>If people are interested, and this does not seem to work as is, I can
>email you the exact changes from my Linux setup, rather than this
>sketch drawn from memory...
>
>Moises
>--

This may be ok (I have no reason to doubt it), but for just a little 
more work you can make it a Linux swap partition rather than 
just a swap file.  See the mini how-to for details.
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>UUCP:    ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm             Phone:   (401)863-7671
>USmail:  Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912

Gerry    [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Brian Lane)
Subject: inb/inbc not found
Date: 14 Oct 1994 06:32:31 GMT

  I'm working on a Linux program to run my PIC processor programmer using 
the parallel port. I snagged the Linux Programmers Manual, and tried 
compiling the example printer port code. After several header additions 
my last errors ar the linker not finding __inb and __inbc! 

  I've looked through the libraries and cannot find these functions anywhere.

  Help!

  Brian

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Ransbottom)
Subject: Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 06:35:10 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Paul Pearson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I can't seem to get email working correctly with Linux 1.0.9 
>(the Slackware distribution).  I am using elm on the virutual 
>consoles and CAN send messages to other users on the same 
>system.  However, if the user doesn't have an account on the 
>local system, the mail never reaches them.  Also, mail coming 
>from a remote system never arrives at my Linux box.  I have 
>tried mailing directly to the Linux box's IP address (e.g. 
>[email-masked]) rather than utilizing the name server.
>
>I assume that 'deliver' is working correctly because local mail 
>works fine.  I guess my question is, how does 'smail' need to 
>be set up and does it need to run as a background proccess all 
>the time in order for mail to be delivered/received to/from 
>remote sites?
>
>Also, I used 'mail' with the verbose mode turned on and I see a 
>message that says something like:
>
>     read error in output from '/usr/bin/uuname'
>     
>ANY suggestions would be helpful -- and please don't say "read 
>the HOWTO" because I have and it doesn't seem to help me 

Read the output of tail -f /var/spool/smail/logfile after you
run /usr/lib/smail/tools.linux/mkconfig.  This should lead you
to edit various /var/lib/smail/maps/* files and the 
/var/lib/smail/routers file and the /var/lib/smail/config file.  
In routers you probably will want to use bsearch on all the 
pathfiles you have, that is if you have a site which needs little 
knowledge of the topography of the net.

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From: [email-masked] (Aapo Meili)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51
Date: 13 Oct 1994 09:20:50 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Oz Dror ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Linux 1.1.51
: DOSEMU Pre0.53pl25

: Hi,
:    Dosemu has significantly improved compare with p17. I would like
: to congratulate DOS EMU team.

: But there is at least one problem. Only root can run it. I check permission
: of dos it seems OK.

There is at least one problem more.
dosemu works only in xtern, at the the system hands and you
have to reboot the system.
I have the following message in the output-file:

KBD: GET LEDS key 96 0x00, 97 0x00, kbc1 0x00, kbc2 0x00
couldn't open terminfo file /usr/lib/terminfo/c/con80x60.
The terminal you are using is not defined.

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From: [email-masked] (Christian Javet)
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 15 Oct 1994 13:39:06 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Prof. Gavrie Philipson <[email-masked]> wrote:
%% Well, as for converting DOS/Linux file formats:
%% Slackware has two little progs, fromdos/todos which do just that.
%% Moreover, there is a filter (don't remember its name) which converts RTF/TeX.
%% So it should be easy enough to move files between TeX/WinWord/Mac.
%% 
%% I heard there is a package for Emacs, called AUC-TeX, which uses a special TeX
%% mode. Where can I get it?
%% 
%% 
%% --
%% Gavrie Philipson
%% [email-masked]

  Here is a small part of the README file of auctex version 9.0:

> Availability
>============
>
>   The most resent version is always available by ftp at
>
>                   `ftp://ftp.iesd.auc.dk/pub/emacs-lisp/auctex.tar.gz'
>
>   In case you don't have access anonymous ftp, you can get it by email
>requests to `<[email-masked]>'.
>
>   WWW users may want to check out the AUC TeX page at
>
>                    `http://www.iesd.auc.dk/~amanda/aucTeX/'

 Hope this helps ....

                  Chris.
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