Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #950
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 15:13:32 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #950, Volume #2                Sun, 16 Oct 94 15:13:32 EDT

Contents:
  Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be awar ([email-masked])
  please repost fix for disk spindown ([email-masked])
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING ([email-masked])
  Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Gina Goff)
  Re: nedit for Linux? (dave delaune)
  Re: Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX??? (Janne Sinkkonen)
  Re: [WANTED] Moasic 2.4 for XF86-3.1 (Harald Milz)
  Linux v1.1.45, XView v3L5.1 - compile warnings (TheDoctor)
  Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Gina Goff)
  Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working (David Williams)
  Re: What is Linux good for? (Matthew B Shoemake)
  Re: Stable kernel version opinion? (Andreas Helke)
  Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Binesh Bannerjee)
  NCR 53c9x SCSI Card (Lefteris Giakoumatos)
  Smallest Linux Box (Phillip Burgess)
  Re: [H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu (Jason Van Patten)
  Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors f (Marc Fraioli)
  Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Martin Spott)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Michael Berthold)

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 15 Oct 94 00:57 GMT+0300
Subject: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be awar

Subject: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware

In article <[email-masked]>,
Lee Crawford <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>[email-masked] (Yan Xiao) wrote:
>
>> The current yggdrasil CD is our second buy, and I can
>> see the decline in quality. 

I noticed this also.  The file system rearrangement was sloppy. Some
scripts don't run without complaints about missing files and
directories. I was never sure whether there was a problem with the
CD-ROM install, my machine, or me. The Fall '94 is half-baked.   

I used the Fall '94 for a whole day - Columbus Day, which I had off.
Then, giving up on this possibly bogus product, I blew up the install
and went back to Summer '94, which, in my opinion, seems to be a better
quality package. Next time I go to my favorite UNIX reseller, Promox
Systems in Sunnyvale, I'm going to bitch about it.  I have two Linux
machines which were supposed to be Summer and Fall, respectively; at
this point, they're now both Summer '94.      
-- 
K-FOX|      w  ["]                              | WA6MBV      
94.5 |...   [email-masked]  | Jim Duncan  
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From: [email-masked]
Date: 15 Oct 94 02:50 GMT+0300
Subject: please repost fix for disk spindown

Subject: please repost fix for disk spindown problem

A while back, someone posted fixes for the problem of Linux receiving an
interrupt and restarting the hard disk immediately after APM spins the 
disk down.  Could someopne repost this fix?!

I'm running kernel level 1.1.45 on a Compaq Concerto.

Thanks.

Greg

===============================================================================
Gregory U. Ellis                [email-masked]
Systems Software Engr.          Amdahl Corporation
===============================================================================
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are mine, solely, and do not
necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.
===============================================================================

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 15 Oct 94 13:03 GMT+0300
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING

Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09)

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted biweekly to
comp.os.linux.announce.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not a contribution to the development
of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration
- should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <[email-masked]>  (urgent email: [email-masked])
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 1223 64238

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From: [email-masked] (Gina Goff)
Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 11:04:18 CDT

In article <[email-masked]>
[email-masked] (Binesh Bannerjee) writes:
 
>Thanks for deleting the POINT of this second argument.
 
My apologies.  I missed the fact that you were discussing the broadcast
of something stolen.  Could you make your paragraphs briefer, to improve
readability?
 
>The broadcast that I mentioned was one where someone
>STOLE a copy of a soon to be released movie, took over
>a TV station and aired the movie in it's entirety...
>And,  ...
>: :and this broadcast came over the air. Then, again it's MY tape
>: :so, I should be able to make copies of it, so if I make a copy and
>: :give it to a friend, well, it's MY tape, and I should be able to do so.
>: :Or are you saying that the cops should break into everyone's house
>: :and order everyone to blank out any tapes they made?
 
The cops are unlikely to know, and even if they did, I doubt anyone would
be breaking into your house.  To answer your original point, distributing
stolen copyrighted material is a violation even if you aren't the one who
took the copy in the first place.  Distribution is one of the rights covered
by copyright.
 
G.

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From: [email-masked] (dave delaune)
Subject: Re: nedit for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 05:45:39 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Marc Fraioli) writes:
> In article [email-masked],  [email-masked] (Brian Lane) writes:
> >Frank Conway ([email-masked]) wrote:
> >: I have recently dicovered an editor for my Sun called nedit.
> >: Source code is available.  I really like this editor, and
> >: will be porting it to Linux for home use.
> >
> >: Has anyone already done this?  If so, I won't waste my time.
> >
> >
> >  NEdit's home site is ftp.fnal.gov in /pub/nedit/v3_1
> >
> >  in the contrib directory is a Makefile.linux, so it's already been 
> >done(pretty trivial).
> >
> >  The catch is that it needs Motif, which isn't free. Anyone want to 
> >tackle a free Motif compatible X library?
> >
> Someone is already doing it.  It's in the Linux Projects FAQ, and I
> think it's called the Xu lib and Widget set or something similar.  In
> the interim, how about somebody who has Motif for Linux making a static
> binary of nedit like was done for Mosaic?  Any volunteers?
> 
Already been done, check sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/editors/nedit.tar.gz

Dave Delaune

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From: [email-masked] (Janne Sinkkonen)
Subject: Re: Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX???
Date: 16 Oct 1994 01:17:17 +0200

Timothy Demarest <[email-masked]> wrote:

>I have Linux running on a system using the Plato Premier PCI II.  Everything
>works great.  I am using an old Adaptec 1542C, so if you decide to go with
>the NCR SCSI board, you may have some tricky things to do to get it to work.

Basically it's just a couple of addresses in the kernel initialization
phase, or maybe nothing at all for some versions of Plato.

E-mail me if you need more help.

--
Janne

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From: [email-masked] (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: [WANTED] Moasic 2.4 for XF86-3.1
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:57:06 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc, Chris Lo ([email-masked]) wrote:

> While trying to elminate the X11R5, (and without Motif here), I find
> Moasic is compiled with X11R5. Can someone re-compile it with R6
> please??

Why? Mine works fine with XFree86 3.1. Just make sure to keep the old 
libs in /usr/X386/lib and to keep this dir in /etc/ld.so.conf. 

-- 
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
-- 
Harald Milz ([email-masked])      WWW: http://www.ix.de/editors/hm.html
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      phone +49 (511) 53 52-377
Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover     fax   +49 (511) 53 52-378
Opinions stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's.

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From: [email-masked] (TheDoctor)
Subject: Linux v1.1.45, XView v3L5.1 - compile warnings
Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:57:42 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Here's my problem.  During installation of XView (version info in subject 
line), I keep getting warnings to the effect:
seln.c:32: warning: passing arg 1 of `xv_create` makes integer from 
pointer without a cast.

I also get some that say (this one is not a direct quote):
warning: comparison of integer and pointer.

I'm doing the installation of XView right now and don't know whether 
it'll work or not.  Over the last few days, I've been 
gathering/building/installing quite a bit of software from the 
comp.os.announce newsgroup messages.  I also see messages from people who 
appear to be successfully running them.  I get these same two messages in 
almost everything I try to build (xrn, xvnews, xgopher, xarchie).  Some 
actually build and run (although some funtions they provide kill the 
whole program or just don't work), while others die and won't build at all.

My question (Finally!) is:
What is wrong here.  
here are the versions of some of my stuff:

gcc = v2.5.8
XFree86 = v2.1.1
libc = 4.5.26
linux = Slackware 2.0
kernel = 1.1.45
XView = 3L5.1 (Today is first install of XView, it has not been on my 
system before now.)

I do have the olwm though and it runs fine.  Won't know about after XView 
installation 'til it finishes.  It's been building stuff for an hour or 
more now...  hmm. It's in ../src/sspkg/drawarea now.

Any help and/or suggestions will be most appreciated.  I'll upgrade 
whatever I need to.  Don't know whether I can downgrade anything.  We'll see.

Thanks in advance.

                            ...Mark Ash ([email-masked])

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From: [email-masked] (Gina Goff)
Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 11:58:13 CDT

In article <[email-masked]>
[email-masked] (Binesh Bannerjee) writes:
 
>I can't see any proof for incremental damage, despite your fervent
>FAITH that there is such a thing. And, I have no intention of calling
>the Paramount legal division, so either we can kill this thread, and
>I'll continue on my merry way distributing the script, and you can
>continue on your merry way calling me an ass for doing so... Or, you
>could post a summary of what they tell you, in laymans terms.
 
Incremental damage is irrelevant bullshit, Binesh.  Distributing copyrighted
material without the owner's permission is illegal _even if you weren't the
original violator_.  That is a fact, whether you like it or not.  Ignoring
that fact is foolish.  Publicly advertising that you're ignoring it is even
more foolish.
 
>The NSA wants escrowed keys for the Clipper chip... I'm going to follow
>the perhaps conservative but undoubtedly safe assumption that they have
>a perfectly valid reason for wanting it.
 
Wow, if you think going along with Clipper is a conservative or safe
assumption, then you really ARE a fool.
 
Gina

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (David Williams)
Subject: Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 16:35:39 GMT

Stephen Gourdie ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Eric Silver ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : I tried several times to make the rz and rx part of MINICOM work.
: : I was trying to download a file from a UNIX BBS and the system
[del]

: change program names:

: /usr/bin/rz -vv  and /usr/bin/sz -vv 

: to

: /usr/bin/rz -vv </dev/modem  >/dev/modem

: and 

: /usr/bin/sz -vv </dev/modem >/dev/modem

: and all should work well.

I had the same sort of problem, and I tried the above fix without
success.

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From: [email-masked] (Matthew B Shoemake)
Subject: Re: What is Linux good for?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 05:36:22 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Michael Rogero Brown (Sys Admin) <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Daniel Woodard ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: >FAQ??? They even don't check the name of the group on which they are
>:   That's an outright lie.  I looked for a faq.  Not finding one, I posted 
>: this message.
>
>Did you go to rtfm.mit.edu??   That's where I go to look for a FAQ.  There's
>always the chance that the posted FAQ has diappeared from my site.

I "found" the linux news groups yesterday also.  However, I read the
FAQ and the HOW-TOs before this, my first posting.  I found the FAQ on
comp.os.linux.announce yesterday.  So they are there.  No excuses for
not seeing them.  On the other hand, some of you linux advocates may
want to be a little nicer with potential brethren.  Just a thought.

On with my questions.  I am not yet using linux.  I have tried OS/2,
DOS, Windows, and I am not happy with them.  I am a UNIX fan and am
thinking of giving linux a shot.  Here are a few things I'd like to
know before I go through with the deed:

1) I read that Linux can run some DOS executables using DOSEMU, but I
also read that there is no support for Windows exectuables yet.  But I
have also seen mention of Windoze.  So do we support Windows
executables or not?  (Trying to decide whether to keep a partion with
DOS and Win on it.)

2) I read that I can use Ghostscript to print non-ASCII files, such as
PS files to my HP Deskjet 500.  Can anyone verify that this works
well?

3) I'd like to get a little feed back on the speed of using xterms and
X windows that are executing on remote machines using a 14.4Kbps modem
and Xfree86 with linux.  I will be doing this a lot so its efficiency
is a major concern in my decision whether to switch to linux or not.

Thanks for your time and input.

Matthew Shoemake
[email-masked]

*** Go Big Red *** Gig 'em Aggies *** Threepeat Cowboys ***

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From: [email-masked] (Andreas Helke)
Subject: Re: Stable kernel version opinion?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 17:19:31 GMT

Marc Ewing ([email-masked]) wrote:
: We are putting the finishing touches on our CD-ROM distribution
: and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the stability
: of some of the more recent kernels.

: Our install procedure allows you to use multiple kernel versions,
: and right now we have 1.0.9 and 1.1.18.  Version 1.1.53 has been
: a little bit troublesome and may not make the cut.  What version
: do you think is the latest, most stable release?

Some versios around 1.1.44 kill partition tables on Quantum IDE disks. This
problem is fixed in 1.1.49. I am using this version on several computers and
I am happy with it. Orion has now a uptime of 23 days with the 1.1.49
kernel.

Andreas
--
* Andreas Helke, Institut fuer molekulare Genetik, Universitaet Heidelberg
**                      Im Neuenheimer Feld 230, 69122 Heidelberg, Germany
***  orion.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de has a ftp server with Unix tools for DOS
****   and with the HFM V. 4.02 DOS file manager and archive program shell

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From: [email-masked] (Binesh Bannerjee)
Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
Date: 16 Oct 1994 14:27:56 -0400

Blanche Cohen ([email-masked]) wrote:
: We need to start defining things much more clearly here. Binesh and others
: have cited gnu, TeX, shareware, etc as examples of the spirit
: of the software community. However, most software is NOT written for small
: personal computers but for larger workstations and mainframes. True there is
: a great deal of "community" software for unix, but much of that is due to
: the original distribution philosophy of AT&T (before they realized they
: had a money-maker!) 

: It's not completely valid to cite these examples. To wit - TeX may be freely
: distributed but a number of companies are now marketing new and improved
: versions of TeX for various platforms - and they're NOT free. XWindows is
: another example - the basic system is freely available here on the net, or
: pay a small service fee and have the X Consortium send you the tapes. On
: the other hand, there is an entire industry of X developers of toolkits,
: add-ons, consultants, etc. that are NOT shareware/freeware/whatever.

: And I have yet to hear of any shareware/freeware/whatever in the COBOL arena,
: nor in the US Dept of Defense (talk about proprietary and classified!) and
: so on. People just don't make shareware/freeware/whatever for high-end
: mainframes, Crays, etc. 

Huh? I never said ALL software development follows this tradition.
I just said that it isn't true that nobody would do anything if
there wasn't a monetary incentive. Although, probably with COBOL
you might have a point... I doubt anyone would program in COBOL
unless they were paid...

Also, I just realized something else that I might not have made
clear to Gina, since she said that she assumes that Paramount
has a legal basis to their claims...

I would not dispute that they may or may not have a legal basis
to their claim, since, I know nothing about the legality of this
issue, and further, I don't care about the legality or illegality
of my actions. What I DO care about is the ethics of the thing.
Like I keep saying IF I can see that I am hurting Paramount in
some tangible way by distributing the script, then I would not do
it... You could trust it or not, but... So, again, please tell me
how I'm hurting Paramount by distributing the script to people who
would not have bought the script anyway... (I know that much for
a fact (That they wouldn't have bought the script had it not been
for free)) AND, everyone I gave it to, is going to see the movie
anyway...

And, again, I'll reiterate my claims.
I do NOT justify the initial posting of the script, and truthfully
I find posting the script AGAIN at this point is kind of silly,
All I'm asking is how exactly Paramount gets hurt by continued
distribution of the script. And noone has yet told me any tangible
way that Paramount is getting hurt... I've heard "potential loss"
I've heard "it's not the writers final draft" etc. etc, but no real
way that Paramounts wallet is hurting... Certainly not per EACH
copy that is made (cause I've heard about the 1% of the population
who reads the script and says "I ain't paying to see that", which
if Paramount counts that, they should bring libel suits against
every reviewer also... Unless people tell me that reviewers all
have to be registered with Paramount before they do a review.) 

: If you take a look at the entire software development spectrum, I think you'll
: find that pc development is a small (altho growing) part of the industry.

(?)

Binesh

: -- 
: "It might be interesting to explore useless for a while" [DS9]
: "Chocolate is a serious business"  [TNG]
: "Worst case of testosterone poisoning I've ever seen..." [B5]

-- 
* Will sit by a pool and relax and have fun for money. *
Hey... it's going to work someday...

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From: [email-masked] (Lefteris Giakoumatos)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,alt.os.linux
Subject: NCR 53c9x SCSI Card
Date: 14 Oct 1994 17:24:40 GMT

Hi there,
I reacently tried to install Linux on my machine but I had some 
frustrating problems.  My SCSI card is an ABIT SC3210V VL-BUS
generic SCSI card.  My hard drive is a 1 Gigabyte (1080 MEG) 
11 ms drive.  When my pc boots up, I get the following 
information from the controller card: 
===============================================================
ID7:SC3210V VESA SCSI CONTROLLER V1.0         V
ID0:No SCSI device connected
ID1:No SCSI device connected
.....all the way to ID6 then:....
ID6:Quantum 1079MB Drive 0
===============================================================
Parameters of logical drives:
Drive 0: Cyl:1028 Heads:64 Sct/Trk:32      1079MB

Drive 1: Cyl:     Heads:   Sct/Trk:

===============================================================

I opened up my computer and I discovered that my card has
an NCR53c94 chip on it (It also says so in the manual).
When I try to boot up linux with the modern boot disk it
won't detect my hard drive or my controller card.
I then tried to pass the following parameters to the kernal:

boot ramdisk hd=1028,64,32

It then tells me:

hd.c ST-506 interface disk with more than 16 heads detected,
probably due to non standard sector translation, giving up.

when I don't set any parameters and let it boot up with the 
default settings it responds with:

mcd=0x300,10 Init failed, no such device...

Any reply or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

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From: [email-masked] (Phillip Burgess)
Subject: Smallest Linux Box
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 05:03:05 GMT

The "Weakest Box" thread is a hoot.  What I'd like to know is what's the
physically *smallest* Linux box?   All the palmtops I've seen are ROM-based
and floppyless (and few have enough RAM), so I would imagine those are out
of the question.  I've heard from folks running it on a Thinkpad 500 (at
least the textual portions, dunno about X11 yet) and some other machines
around four pounds (Compaq, Toshiba, Canon), but not on any of the handful
(pun!) of machines that are even smaller.  The Handbook, Omnibook, and DTR-1
all come to mind.  The consensus seems to be that Linux probably won't get
along with the funkier hardware & power conservation features in these
systems (and good luck getting the whacky input devices to work), but I
don't know if anyone's actually tried yet, or perhaps there are some other
wee systems that I'm overlooking.

It's kind of both funny and appealing at the same time...  Pocket Linux!

-- 
    Phillip Burgess ([email-masked])                            >belch<

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From: [email-masked] (Jason Van Patten)
Subject: Re: [H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu
Date: 16 Oct 1994 18:30:01 GMT

Chris Roger ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I have the same problem with my SWiM.  -and the suggested solution does
: not bring back the menu below the separator (the lines were already in
: the mwmrc file).  If you double-click on the menu button, the window will
: close - you just cant choose close from the menu.  

        Interesting.  Here's what I have (this is on AIX, not Linux, but Motif
is Motif)

        In my .Xdefaults file, on line is this:
Mwm*windowMenu:         DefaultWindowMenu

        And in my .mwmrc:
Menu DefaultWindowMenu MwmWindowMenu
{
    "Restore"   _R      Alt<Key>F5      f.normalize
    "Move"      _M      Alt<Key>F7      f.move
    "Size"      _S      Alt<Key>F8      f.resize
    "Minimize"  _n      Alt<Key>F9      f.minimize
    "Maximize"  _x      Alt<Key>F10     f.maximize
    "Lower"     _L      Alt<Key>F3      f.lower
    no-label                            f.separator
    "Close"     _C      Alt<Key>F4      f.kill
}

        Now, my menu looks just like this:
 ______________________
| Restore       Alt+F5 |
| Move          Alt+F7 |
| Size          Alt+F8 |
| Minimize      Alt+F9 |
| Maximize      Alt+F10|
| Lower         Alt+F3 |
|----------------------|
| Close         Alt+F4 |
|______________________|

        Both the double-click and selecting the "Close" works.  If it doesn't
work for you, you might want to ask whatever company you got Motif from.

                                                Jason

--
Jason Van Patten                  | If at first you don't succeed, keep |
Clarkson University               | on sucking till you do succeed.     |
[email-masked]  |                     - Curly Howard  |
                                  |                 (The Three Stooges) |
            ** Any opinions expressed here are actually
               yours, you just don't know it, yet. **

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From: [email-masked] (Marc Fraioli)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors f
Date: 13 Oct 1994 00:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article [email-masked],  [email-masked] (Martin Spott) writes:
>There is a Wordprocessing/Desktop-Publishing System for Linux in progress -
>programmed by a group of german enthusiasts. It'll take a lot of time to
>get it working, also it will cost al little bit. Please don't be impatient,
>it's a lot of work.
>
That's very interesting.  Perhaps they should consider adding it to the
projects FAQ.  I haven't seen it there.  With all the debate about 
Linux word processors, I think many people would be interested to know
about this.

---
Marc Fraioli          | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- " 
[email-masked]         |    - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
                      |    Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War

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From: [email-masked] (Martin Spott)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 17:10:04 GMT

There is a Wordprocessing/Desktop-Publishing System for Linux in progress -
programmed by a group of german enthusiasts. It'll take a lot of time to
get it working, also it will cost al little bit. Please don't be impatient,
it's a lot of work.

Martin.
--

EMail:                 bevorzugt privat: [email-masked]
             notfalls auch "dienstlich": [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Berthold)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:53:11 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

 In article <[email-masked]>,
 Jason Saunders <[email-masked]> wrote:
 >
 >I wonder if anyone has tried running the new DX2-80 at 90 or 100MHz? Now that
 >would be something to reckon with! A DX2-100 would in fact be faster than a
 >DX4-100.
 
This is not necessarily true. The DX4 has a different layout and needs
less clock cycles for some commands. This is why Intel calls it DX4 and
not DX3 (which would be the more logical name), they claim that it
behaves like a normal 486, *four* times overclocked internally.
(Physically it's only a triple-clock)

just my $.02, Michael

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