Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #951
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 17:13:39 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #951, Volume #2                Sun, 16 Oct 94 17:13:39 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Brad Matthew Garcia)
  Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Sergei Naoumov)
  Re: SW Technologies (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
  Re: Advantage of having sound card (Bill McCarthy)
  Re: Syquest and Linux (Helmut Schoenborn)
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? ([email-masked])
  Re: X vs non-X users? (Orc)
  Re: Where can I order Linux 3. (David H Hickman)
  Re: Real stupid question. What is Motif?? :) (Matthew Hannigan)
  Re: SW Technologies (Jonathan I. Kamens)
  Re: SW Technologies (Jonathan I. Kamens)
  Re: Replacing COH with a DECENT Unix Clone (Udo Munk)
  Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be (Boudewijn)
  Re: Weakest Linux Box (Kelly Lee Setzer)
  Help: K1.1.18 Need documentation mmap(2) implementation (Rob Cermak)
  Re: Converting DIALOGIC's adpcm... (Jeff Markel)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Jeff Kesselman)
  Applets; was: Word (Text) processor (Ted Harding)
  Re: nedit for Linux? (Skip)
  Mosaic Netscape and Linux (Bill Latura)

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From: [email-masked] (Brad Matthew Garcia)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: 14 Oct 1994 11:48:55 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, 
[email-masked] (Marten Liebster) writes:
|> Brad Matthew Garcia ([email-masked]) wrote:
|> 
|> : In article <[email-masked]>, 
|> : [email-masked] (Daniel Zappala) writes:
|> : |> 
|> : |> In article <[email-masked]>, 
|> : |> [email-masked] (John Palaima) writes:
|> : |> > 
|> : |> > Hah.  Apparently you didn't hear that the Am486 DX/2 66 could be safely
|> : |> 
|> : |> But a DX2-80 can't be just a relabeled, overclocked DX2-66. 
|> : |> It's bus speed has to be 40 Mhz.
|> : |> 
|> : |> Daniel
|> : I think that you are confused, Dan, between a relabled 66 MHz *system* and
|> : a relabled 66 MHz *cpu*.  They simply put the 66 MHz chip on a 40 MHz
|> : motherboard (which is also accomplished by changing the speed of the
|> : motherboard) and...  TADA! - a 486DX2-80!
|> : -- 
|> But a poster earlier mentioned that he just bought an AMD 486dx/2 80 CHIP.  
|> I would have to agree with Daniel, that the chip would internally running at
|> 80 Mhz and externally at 40 Mhz.  This chip would be perfect for my MB - 
|> running at 40 Mhz with a TI 486DLC-40 chip on it.

Huh?  I agree that a AMD 486DX2-80 would operate @ 40 MHz externally and
80 MHz internally.  What I am trying to explain is that I can take an
AMD 486DX2-66, run it on a 40 MHz motherboard, causing it to run at 80 MHz
internally, thus making it into a 486DX2-80.  Save money *and* get better
performance than you would with an Intel 486DX2-66!  Now that AMD is 
actually selling chips labeled 486DX2-80, this might mean that AMD
is testing thier current batch of 486DX2-66's and relabeling the ones that
are stable at 80 MHz.
-- 
Brad M. Garcia                   Carnegie Mellon University 
   ____/  ____/  ____/ Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
  __/    /      __/   "The only Engineering department in the world where
_____/ _____/ _____/   the secretaries have the most powerful computers."

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:32:52 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Lee Crawford <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>[email-masked] (Yan Xiao) wrote:
>
>> 
>> We purchased Yggdrasil Fall 1994 Plug-and-Play recently,
>> and here are some of the problems we`ve encountered so far:
>
>

Someone gave the answer to this mystery before, hopefulyl they will 
repost it.  It not a problem with more itself in Y-fall94, though. I do 
ALOT of moring under the console and never ever have I had it blow up.

Jeff Kesselman

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From: [email-masked] (Sergei Naoumov)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:21:36 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Thomas Petersen) writes:
> Miguel Alvarez Blanco ([email-masked]) wrote:
> 
> >  I won't claim that LaTeX is a good multilingual processor, but my master
> > thesis was written on it, in spanish, without troubles. Sure, Hebrew, Kanji
> > and lots of other languages are not there, but at least it's a step forward.
> 
> Eh? The LaTeX package I dowloaded included support for several African
> languages, Gothic (a medieval rune system), Both of the Futharks,
> several versions of Tolkien's alphabets, Hebrew, Georgian, a couple
> of languages somebody probably just made up and God knows what else.

I even know a support for Enya-like fonts.

> I challenge you to name an alphabet that doesn't have at least some
> support.

True, TeX supportts all the major languages, plus other stuff. I don't know any
system that supports as many languages. Speaking about making LaTeX to
speak A language, I'm claiming that people are just lazy. My own experience
with Russian and Sanskrit shows that people just have no idea how to do
the localization. But it is possible and involves not only TeX or MF but
also an environment you are working within because the lacalization where
you transliterate letters of AN alphabet with Latin characters is not a localization.
 
> >  BTW, I use vi as the editor for my LaTeX documents, so I'm probably brain
> > dead myself :-)
> 
> vi, sed and awk: This is what text processing tools are supposed to 
> be like! :-)

Don't tell me about vi -- I hate it. XEmacs! Go for it. Speaking about sed
and awk, all of these features sit inside Emacs. The real trouble, however,
that slows people from going to a normal text processing systems is
an absence of WYSIWYG, which, I believe, for TeX is unacceptable because
it'll slow down your work by 100s of times.

        Sergei
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From: [email-masked] (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
Subject: Re: SW Technologies
Date: 14 Oct 1994 11:49:48 GMT

Dan Pop ([email-masked]) wrote:

: >Okay, Marvin make a mistake,  we all have.  Jonathan, please
: >post your s-mail address and I'll send you the $4.00
: > (...Bass)

: Are you extending this offer to _every_ SWT customer who had similar
: problems?

: Dan
: --

I don't know Dan, just how many SWT customers have had SWT refund
checks bounce?  I thought the lastest net saga was the only one!

-Tim

: Dan Pop 
: CERN, CN Division
: Email: [email-masked]
: Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

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From: [email-masked] (Bill McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Advantage of having sound card
Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:06:33 -0400

>Glenn Jayaputera <[email-masked]> wrote:
>WOndering if I have a lot of advantages if I buy a sound card for my 
>linux box.

Well, I can listen to Mozart while reading the c.o.l.* groups. A very nice
way to end the day.

(SBPro+Panasonic563)

Bill McCarthy
[email-masked]

"Isn't it pretty to think so."
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________
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usual disclaimer 

   

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From: [email-masked] (Helmut Schoenborn)
Subject: Re: Syquest and Linux
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:05:25 GMT

[email-masked] (Georg Pietrek) writes:

>I have a Syquest drive (SCSI, 270 MB) and my question is very
>simple (hopefully the answer will be simple, too):
>How can I use it with Linux ?

What about: sort of removable hard disk ???

>Bye

>   Georg

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From: [email-masked]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:25:53 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Jerry Leslie)
writes: 
 : Regarding "integrate existing editor", why not make it flexible like 'elm'
 : and 'tin', where a user can specify an editor like 'vi', 'jed', 'emacs',
 : or our favorite, 'ed' (not the line-mode ed, but an editor patterned after
 : DEC VMS's EDT editor) ?

The idea is that it will be a text-based WYS(Is kind of)WYG wordprocessor.
It would makes no sense to do what you suggest.   The best that could be
done is to make the keybindings customizable.

--
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#___/John E. Davis\_________________________________________________________
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#   bitnet: davis@ohstpy
#   office: 617-735-6746
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From: [email-masked] (Orc)
Subject: Re: X vs non-X users?
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 05:29:44 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Chris Bitmead <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Pretty well everyone who 
>
>1) has enough computing resources and 
>2) uses Linux as a desktop machine 
>
>will be running X.

 You forgot

 3) font queens.

 I've yet to find a good monospaced italic X font, and find that
the bulk of the freeware fonts don't compare to the vga fonts I've
written or found.

  (And I've got a nice Mach32 card on one of the machines that I
use as a desktop machine, too. Windows are kind of nice, but I'm
not willing to exchange good fonts for multiple windows.)

                ____
  david parsons \bi/ 24 megs of memory is enough to run X last time
                 \/                                       I checked.

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From: [email-masked] (David H Hickman )
Subject: Re: Where can I order Linux 3.
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 05:50:55 GMT

Keith Mandachit ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I want to order the Slackware version of linux on 3.5 inch disks
: I tried clark.net, but they nolonger sell the distribution
: Any ideas.
: thanks
: --
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: University of Missouri-Rolla                  Rolla, MO  65401
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: Minor:  Computer Science                    "If you don't win, lose hard!"
: WWW Page:  lynx http://www.umr.edu/~keithm
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well if you want it on 3.5, e-mail me and i can get you a free copy 
as long as you supply the disks. :)

--

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From: [email-masked] (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: Re: Real stupid question. What is Motif?? :)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 09:38:00 GMT

[email-masked] (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Joseph W. Vigneau) writes:
>>Motif (from the Open Software Foundation) consists of three major parts:
>>
>>1) mwm, which is a window manager for the X Window System.  It attempts to
>>   look and feel similar to the Microsoft Windows' window manager (Alt-F4
>>   means quits by default, etc.)
>>
>I don't know that the intention of Motif is to look like Windows.  That may fit
>into the definition of libel.  It looks nice, with a real 3-d feel and 
>useful menus & shortcuts (configurable as well).  It's also more or less
>the standard for many commercial unix systems, except perhaps Sun.

Yes, I was going to pick up on this.  The reason Motif and
MS-Windows are similar is not that Motif copied MS-Windows,
but that they both try and adhere to the user interface
standard CUA (common user access), originally proposed and
designed (mostly) by IBM.

--
        -Matt Hannigan

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: SW Technologies
Date: 16 Oct 1994 15:34:40 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) writes:
|> Okay, Marvin make a mistake,  we all have.  Jonathan, please
|> post your s-mail address and I'll send you the $4.00

If you want to send me a check for $4, I'll gladly accept it.  I don't turn
down free money.  I've already told you that when you made a similar offer in
E-mail to me.  However, receiving $4 from you is not going to stop me from
continuing to warn people about SWT on the net.  Even receiving the money from
SWT, at this point, wouldn't stop me from warning people about SWT on the net.
I'm not publicizing the problems I had with SWT in order to extort them into
paying me money, even if I do think it's money that they owe me.  I'm
publicizing the problems I had with SWT in order to prevent other people from
having the same experience I did.

Incidentally, if SWT does decide to pay me some or all of the money I believe
they still owe me, I will certainly make note of that in the review of them
that I post periodically, and it will certainly reflect favorably upon them. 
Whether or not they think it's worth it is their problem.  I doubt they do,
considering that (a) they never responded when I sent them a copy of my review
and asked if they wanted to send me a "rebuttal" to put in it, (b) they never
responded to any of my E-mail asking for them to pay me the $4 their bounced
check cost me, and (c) they never responded to the complaint I filed with the
Dallas BBB.

Incidentally, I think it unwise for me to post my U.S. Mail address in a
world-wide newsgroup.  If you still want to send me $4, send me E-mail and I'll
send you my address.
-- 
Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: SW Technologies
Date: 16 Oct 1994 19:40:47 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) writes:
|> I don't know Dan, just how many SWT customers have had SWT refund
|> checks bounce?  I thought the lastest net saga was the only one!

Then you have not bothered to read my postings very carefully.  As I have
mentioned at least once in this thread, someone else contacted me and told me
they had almost exactly the same experience with SWT as I did, including the
bounced check.  Who knows how many others there are besides me and the person
who contacted me.

-- 
Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: Replacing COH with a DECENT Unix Clone
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 19:18:55 +0100

Chris Mauritz ([email-masked]) wrote:
[...]
: software store and at a small fraction of the price.  Besides, people are 
: working on COFF and ELF compatibility.  If the past is any judge, it will 
: be ready in a reasonable time frame and will (after birthing pains) be SOLID.
[...]
JFYI, GNU C 2.5.6 was distributed in December 1993 sometime. The configuration
for Linux allows COFF and ELF format, same for the binutils. It still isn't
ready and COFF binaries still aren't iBCS2 compatible as those produced under
Coherent. I wouldn't say that it's ready in a reasonable time frame if
millions of hackers needs a year for that, when I compare what we are doing
with the few developers we have. Your word into gods ear that it will be
solid, better tell that those who are working on it instead of posting
it into c.o.c, where nobody wants to know about it.
--
Udo Munk  [email-masked] or [email-masked], CIS: 100021,2515

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From: [email-masked] (Boudewijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 19:57:28 CET
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article <[email-masked]>  ([email-masked]) 
wrote on Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be

> I have noticed that a couple of times it's told me that it is setting
> up a swap file that is ~10MB (output from mkswap) then it's told me
> that it is activating ~17M (output from swapon) - yet my only swap is
> that lone swapfile that is only 10MB.  My total memory, swap plus
> real, is ~17MB - but real mem should not be counted in that output
> from swapon, should it?
> 
> The other times I've booted up Linux, it says (correctly, I think)
> that it is activating ~10MB of swap.  
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts about what might be going wrong?  Thanks!
> 
> Moises
 I have exactly the same experience, down to the amounts of memory. 
Wasn't there supposed to be a line along the lines of rm -f 
/DOS/windows/spart.par? Anyone knows what that's good for?
-- 
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dan de bibben, en 't laatst de tanden.
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Biegel.

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From: setzerkl@grumpy (Kelly Lee Setzer)
Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 18:19:22 GMT

Michael Haardt ((michael)[email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Stormy Henderson) writes:
: > I ran Slackware 1.1.1 on a 386sx16 with 4 meg ram and a 20 meg hard drive for
: > 3 months.  It had the a, ap, n, and d disks.  Was quite a tight fit.

: My older machine is a 386-20 with 2MB RAM.  I use it to play with SLIP
: to my 486.  It has two MFM drives connected to it and currently runs
: Linux 1.1.52.  Enough to ftp to it, but unusable for serious work.

Would a machine along these lines be enough to serve as a terminal (via slip or
plip) for my _real_ linux box?

Kelly

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Cermak)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Help: K1.1.18 Need documentation mmap(2) implementation
Date: 15 Oct 1994 08:39:47 -0400

Hello,  I've got a C program that needs to map memory to a 
simple file.  However all I get back from the mmap() is
EINVAL.   What all is currently available in mmap() so that I
can make calls to it...

If there is documents or a person that I can contact that would
know more about the mmap(2) in kernel 1.1.18+ please let me know.

Thanks in advance,
Rob Cermak
Rutgers University
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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Markel)
Subject: Re: Converting DIALOGIC's adpcm...
Date: 15 Oct 1994 05:51:45 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Jeff Markel)

In <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Birkinbine Brian L) writes:
>Jan Willems ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>: Dear netters,
>
>:      Sorry for this non linux subject but I do not know
>:      another way to reach the linux dialogic users!
>
>:      I am looking for the algorithm that can convert
>:      the dialogic compressed voiceformat to the
>:      original sample values. 
>:      They use something like ADPCM but it's their own
>:      version.
>:      Is there any existing software that could do it for me?
>
>:      Anyone who can help me?
>
>:      Thanks in advance.
>
>:      BTW: I use the older D41 boards.
>
>:      Regards,
>:      Jan Willems.
>: --
>: -- Jan --                                            _
>: Jan Willems, Department of Computer Science,|      -0-0-
>: Utrecht University, the Netherlands,        |        |   
>: tel: +31-30-534114, e-mail: [email-masked]  |       \_/
>
>   Sorry, I don't know anything about their compressed format.  Although I
>do have a secondary question for you.  I am currently working on a
>Time & Temp. service with Voice Mail, Information server with a dialogic voice
>card.  Do you know of anything that will allow me to use the dialogic card
>with Linux (or any Unix) for that matter.  The only development software
>I have is for DOS.
>
>               Any help is appreciated
>
>               Brian Birkinbine <Studying Computer Science>
>               finger <[email-masked]> for PGP key.
>

I don't have it any more, but there is an App. Note from Dialogic describing
their ADPCM format.  Probably available on their BBS, and definitely
available on Compuslurp (go dialogic).

I, too would be interested in Linux drivers for D40 cards...I've been mulling
over giving Dialogic a call and seeing if they'd throw me some HW in exchange
for writing Linux drivers (once I get Linux running, of course :-).  They DO
charge beaucoups bucks for their *IX drivers, though, so I'm not sure how 
receptive they'd be...

In any case, if anyone has written Dialogic drivers for Linux, please let me
know.
                          Thanks,

                        Jeff Markel

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 01:37:33 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Marten Liebster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Gregory Urban ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: In article <[email-masked]>,
>: Marten Liebster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>: >
>: >So when is AMD comming out with a 486dx4-120? :-)  
>: >
>: >Marten
>
>: NO, NO, NO !!!!!!!!!!
>
>: Only Intel uses STUPID names for their chips.  AMD will produce a DX3/120
>: (clock tripled, 40mhz external, 120mhz internal).
>
>Isn't a DX3 an IBM chip?  If AMD used dx3 it would seem that they were cloning
>an IBM chip rather than the real Chip.  I thought that dx3s are used in the
>blue lightning system?  I am probably way off, but that is not anything new :)
>
>Marten
>
>-- 
>----------------------------------------
>Marten M. Liebster   Please no flames for spelling,
>[email-masked]    I already know I can't spell!!

Intel called their trippled 30/90 a DX4/100.  They CLAIm that this was 
because the court ruled that their old dx2 designation was descriptive, 
it was not a trade mark so this time they chose something 
non-descriptive.  Myself, i just think its typical Intel slimy marketing, 
hey who CARES if its accurate, it SOUNDS better!

IMO

Jeff Kesselman 

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From: [email-masked] (Ted Harding)
Subject: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor
Date: 16 Oct 1994 17:00:43 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Ted Harding)

| What I don't understand is the wish to make Linux applications appeal
| to the "average dos/win" user.  When developing an application for
| Linux, shouldn't the concern be to make it appeal to the Linux user?
.......... 
| There seems to be an assumed goal of "converting" dos/win users to
| Linux -- and I don't understand why this is a worthy goal.  I'm a bit
| of a relativist so I have my doubts that there is a "one true faith"
| (especially regarding OS/language/editor preferences).
| 
| Do we really care about "market share" like Bill Gates?
| 
| Do we want Linux to be a mass-market product?
| 
| --
| Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  Boys, you have ALL been
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|                                               |in 15 minutes!!
| [email-masked]                          |
| 
I don't think this is a primary goal - as such - of many people who
would like to see Linux working better as a workbench. To be frank,
one of the reasons many people stay with DOS is that the applications
are varied, in many cases excellent, and easy and quick to use - you
can get your work done efficiently using them. This is not yet the
case with more than a few applications on Linux. The work-horse areas
are text-processing, spreadsheets, databases, graphics and (for some)
maths/stats/computation.

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From: [email-masked] (Skip)
Subject: Re: nedit for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 07:33:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
dave delaune <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Marc Fraioli) writes:
>> In article [email-masked],  [email-masked] (Brian Lane) writes:
>> >Frank Conway ([email-masked]) wrote:
>> >: I have recently dicovered an editor for my Sun called nedit.
>> >: Source code is available.  I really like this editor, and
>> >: will be porting it to Linux for home use.
>> >
>> >: Has anyone already done this?  If so, I won't waste my time.

>Already been done, check sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/editors/nedit.tar.gz
>
>Dave Delaune

        I think this is an older version, and in addition, it crashes a 
hell of lot.  I'd appreciate a newer version.

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From: [email-masked] (Bill Latura)
Subject: Mosaic Netscape and Linux
Date: 15 Oct 1994 08:14:39 GMT

Does anyone know if any of the Unix versions of Netscape will run on 
linux?  I've tried the Win version and was _very_ impressed.

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    Bill Latura           WWW Home Page:http://www.xnet.com:80/~blatura/
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