Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #952
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 20:13:39 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #952, Volume #2                Sun, 16 Oct 94 20:13:39 EDT

Contents:
  Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 (Ed Beaumont)
  Future Domain SCSI-x All in One (Thomas Aeby)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09) (Ian Jackson)
  More on word processors...  svgalib? (Guess who?)
  Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Jeff Kesselman)
  Re: nedit for Linux? ([email-masked])
  Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP ([email-masked])
  Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Gareth Webber)
  Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Holger Bumke)
  Re: getting linux to work dail-up (Holger Bumke)
  Re: Mosaic Netscape and Linux (Kevin Martinez)
  Re: Linux T-Shirts! Second Batch of Shirts. (Neil Charley)
  Re: quota (Neil Charley)
  Re: X vs non-X users? (Shannon Hendrix)
  Re: Frame Maker for Linux! (Shannon Hendrix)
  Lynx+term blocks modem (Andre Strydom)
  Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Ian McCloghrie)
  PAS16 Problems Part II (Yee Hong Leung)
  Re: Help: Superblock problem <Solved> (Tri Tran)

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From: [email-masked] (Ed Beaumont)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51
Date: 11 Oct 1994 11:04:55 +1000

Oz Dror ([email-masked]) wrote:
: But there is at least one problem. Only root can run it. I check permission
: of dos it seems OK.
:    9 -rwsr-sr-x   1 root     root         9079 Oct  3 19:57 /usr/bin/dos
: when a user type dos no error is printed, but also dos is not entered.

The problem is properly that you dont have a /etc/dosemu.users file, specifying
who is allowed access to the Dosemu.  The format is simple - just one line
per user login id who is allowed access.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Thomas Aeby)
Subject: Future Domain SCSI-x All in One
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 17:56:05 GMT

I have got the kernel 1.00 running and the chance to get an Future Domain
SCSI-1 All in One plus (with TMC-950) or a SCSI-2 All in One (with TMC-1800)
quite cheap. Now I wonder if anyone has got any experience with one of them
- most important if they are supported or not (the doc is not fully clear -
it says "Seagate .../Future Domain ... TMC-950" with some problems, "Future
Domain 16x0 with TMC-1800" - I don't know if the SCSI-2 board is compatible
with any 16x0 board).

Sorry if this question was treated here already - I've just joined the group
(yeap, I know - strongly against netiquette).
And again against netiquette: Could you please answer through Email as my
newsfeed isn't too stable at the moment and I could easily miss an article.
I'll post a summary if something of common interest arrives.

Thank you very much for any help!

Bye,
Thomas
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From: [email-masked] (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 10:03:01 GMT

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted biweekly to
comp.os.linux.announce.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not a contribution to the development
of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration
- should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.

Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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From: [email-masked] (Guess who?)
Subject: More on word processors...  svgalib?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 19:28:08 GMT

Just as a general question to all, how hard would it be to write a wysiwyg
word processor to use the svgalib instead of x?  And can apps that use
svgalib be run remotely?

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:08:38 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Viktor T. Toth <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Eric Silver) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>2.) xmodem downloading adds a few hundred bytes to  .joerc 
>>    and other xmodem file transfers.
>
>That's a problem with xmodem (pads the file to a multiply of 128 bytes since 
>it can only transfer 128-byte packets), NOT specific to Yggdrasil or Linux. 
>Try it under DOS if you don't believe me.
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>I guess its my own fault. As consumers we should expect thirty-nine
>>dollar performance from a $39.00 (plus tax) Unix. I'll be happy to
>>post more problems as I come across them. 
>>Eric Silver
>
>It is not a $39.00 Unix. It is a $0.00 Unix; you paid $39.00 to the folks who 
>put it on a CD-ROM for you. As for its quality, I would prefer Linux any time 
>over some commercial Unixes (SCO or SunOS come to mind). Commercial folks have 
>a hard time to beat a development team of hundreds, if not thousands, of 
>enthusiastic people world-wide.
>
>Just wanting to set the record straight; the problems you have are specific ot 
>someone's compilation of Linux, not to Linux itself.
>
>Viktor
>

Well, just to set the record straighter, as someone with the same 
compialtion who is running fine.  His problems are problems with his 
setup, understanding, or expectations.  Although he really didn't give 
enough info for me to even TRy to diasgnose fully, quite a few of his 
problems seemed to fall into the same calss as the xmodem one-- lack of 
understanding rather then lack of system performance...  (And over it all 
was a VERY conentious attitude, almost like he wanted it to fail.  In my 
experience, my machine always works better when I try to understand it... 
kinda like people...)

Jeff Kessleman

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: nedit for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:36:01 GMT

     Uwe Daub wrote in article <[email-masked]> :
>
>There isn't anything special about compiling NEdit-3.1.
>It compiles out of the box with the following entries in the
>'Makefile.linux' in the subdirectories ./sources and .util 
>of the NEdit source tree:
>       CC=gcc
>       AR=ar
>       CFLAGS= -m486 -O -Dlinux -DMOTIF12
>       LIBS= -lXm -lXt -lX11
>       include Makefile.common
>
>You see NEdit is a MOTIF application so you need the MOTIF-libs
>to compile it!

        Unfortunately, for those of us who don't have Motif, the
compiled binary on sunsite is version 3.0, and it's a mess.  It
crashes so often it's unusable.  Would some kind soul who has compiled
3.1 with Motif please upload a statically linked version to sunsite?

                        - Michael -

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP
Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:59:30 GMT

     Harmon Seaver wrote in article <[email-masked]> :
>
>    You've got to be kidding! Number One -- a hundred Macs is a 1/4 
>million dollars. The problem is that -- if you haven't noticed -- the
>school systems in this country are broke. They need new solutions,
>and real quick. 

        They may need new solutions, but they don't need a bunch of
users who are too confused by their dumb-terminal/Linux to get any
work done.

        I ask you again... since you stated that the main thing
they'll be doing is word processing, WHAT WORD PROCESSOR ARE YOU GOING
TO USE UNDER LINUX on these dumb terminals?

        And, I think you're going to have to use X-Terminals, not dumb
terminals.  Have you checked out the price of X-Terminals?  They ain't
cheap, guy.  And these days, low-end Macs are available to educational
institutions for considerably less than $2,500 a pop.

>     Number Two -- you obviously are very new to the unix
>world. 

        ...and you are obviously an evangelistic edu-breath twit who
hasn't thought this thing through at all.  Maybe you'll grow up when
you get out in the real world, but I rather doubt it.

                                - Michael -

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From: [email-masked] (Gareth Webber)
Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:55:24 GMT

I am sorry but what is wrong with using the iBCS module and running SCO 
wordperfect. In fact iBCS currently allows linux to run binaries from
lots of other intel unices with work on *BSD being made as we speak.

Linux doesn't need a WP of its own when it can be used as a base to run
apps from all the other major opearing systems (unices, windows under wine 
ans dos under dosemu).

gary...

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Holger Bumke)
Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:45:40 GMT

Jacob Zielinski ([email-masked]) wrote:
: The people on #linux suggested agetty, and mgetty. But I didn't get to far
: with those to commands. Could somebody who as done this explain how or at
: least point me toward some docs.

I am using mgetty/sendfax and it works fine. 
Installation was also easy. You only have to enter the following
line into your /etc/inittab:

s2:56:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -i /etc/issue.out -s 19200 ttyS1

/etc/issue.out is a text for the onliner. 

Remember: Use always ttyS instead of cua! 

   Regards
           Holger

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Holger Bumke)
Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:52:45 GMT

Brian Lane ([email-masked]) wrote:
:   My only problem with it so far is getting seyon to dialout while mgetty 
: is running. 

My problem was that minicom worked, but seyon doesn't.
Surely I have changed cua to ttyS when I was using both programs...

To solve this problem I've watched the permissions and noticed, that
minicom has SUID root and seyon only 755 root.root.
After setting SUID for seyon everything now works fine, but I am not
sure if this hack(?) could be a security hole. Anyway, I have only a
single-user-site, so it's not very important for me.

    Regards
            Holger

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From: Kevin Martinez <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Mosaic Netscape and Linux
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 05:17:38 GMT

[email-masked] (Bill Latura) writes:

>Does anyone know if any of the Unix versions of Netscape will run on 
>linux?  I've tried the Win version and was _very_ impressed.

They don't seem to have a Linux version of Netscape (mozilla!!) at 
mcom.com. They do have HPUX, SunOS, Etc. I used the HPUX version to 
display on my Linux machine and it looks pretty sharp!

Perhaps some email to the good folks at mcom.com might get a Linux 
version going.
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From: [email-masked] (Neil Charley)
Subject: Re: Linux T-Shirts! Second Batch of Shirts.
Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:55:24 GMT

   Hmmm, what about the rest of the world? Not all Linux users are in
the USA or Australia ya know *8-/

-Neil
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From: [email-masked] (Neil Charley)
Subject: Re: quota
Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:02:44 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Martin Eggen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>In article <[email-masked]>,
>[email-masked] (G. Browning) wrote:
>> Does anyone know if quota is available for Linux yet?????????
>> (for the newest kernel version that is 1.1.53)

 Not directly, latest available patch (although I can't find where I
got it from) is against 1.1.50 I think. With hand patching you can get
that to work on 1.1.54 , at least we have on mechnix.me.liv.ac.uk
(compiled without errors, not tested yet due to 'us' being 100 miles
away from the machine, not handy if it fargs up... we have to wait for
THE admin to be around just in case, but we have quotas on 1.1.53
running fine).

>I dunno for newest kernel, but anyway, quota is included in Slackware 2.0.0,
>as far as I know.

  The one we got for 2.0.0 was only a patch against 1.1.21, not
good... (then again the kernel srcs with 2.0.0 are for 1.1.18 *boggle*)

-Neil
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From: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: X vs non-X users?
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 03:02:56 GMT

Peter Jones ([email-masked]) wrote:

: It also raises the question, "Why is there no non-X graphics support in
: Linux, seeing as it _knows_ what the video driver looks like?".  

non-X graphics support for Linux is pretty good... what are you talking
about?  It's been around for a long time now.

: ages ago about a RIP viewer for Linux without X.  A TeX viewer for Linux
: without X would be nice, too.

There is a dvi file viewer, Ghostscript, and one other I cannot remember.

: Maybe people could port the DOS versions to Linux?

: -- Peter
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From: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: Frame Maker for Linux!
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 04:12:46 GMT

[email-masked] (Mark A. Davis) writes:

>ed@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Edmund Humenberger) writes:

>>I was at UNIX open in Vienna and the general distributor for Austria
>>told me that Frame will bring with the new version of Frame Maker
>>in March also a Linux Version of Frame Maker.

>>Go on.

>I wonder if it will cost $2000 for a single floating license like the SCO
>version does.

You can get a single for $300 and at school we used to run the single on
multiple machines all the time.  No idea why.  I personally think
floating licenses are a ripoff.  I know people with more than one
machine at home and it's stupid for them to not be able to log into
either of them and run a program.

Yeah, I know all about loss of sales but I think most of that is BS.

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From: [email-masked] (Andre Strydom)
Subject: Lynx+term blocks modem
Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:01:45 GMT

Hi all

I am running Term 2.1.4 on 1.1.54 kernel.
My problem is this :
  When I use Lynx (downloaded from sunsite) with term and the
 host I connect to is unavailable, the modem line is blocked and no 
transfer takes place for a few minutes. Term.log just says there are
timeout errors. The point is that if a host is available and accepting 
connections
there is no problem. Usually after the modem restarts, I can only use 
about 1/2 of bandwidth ,eg if doing tdownload of about 200cps, but
after running lynx and connecting  host is  not responding (eg ftp to 
sunsite) tdownload continues with about 100cps and this can also be seen 
on tmon with graph 1/2 previous size.

I tried recompiling term with no success. (lynx is binary on sunsite)

I would appreciate it if somebody could help.
PS: If you need more info, email me at
  [email-masked]

Thanx
 Andre

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From: [email-masked] (Ian McCloghrie)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
Date: 13 Oct 1994 09:34:48 -0700

[email-masked] (Alexandra Griffin) writes:
>invert the usual state of this pin, up the bus clock to 50MHz, and you
>should get a substantial performance gain (assuming the rest of the
>motherboard, in particular the cache SRAMs, can keep up).  This

And the VLB.  At 50Mhz, you can only have 1 slot, ne?

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The above represents my personal opinions and not necessarily those
of my employer, Qualcomm Inc.

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From: [email-masked] (Yee Hong Leung)
Subject: PAS16 Problems Part II
Date: 15 Oct 1994 08:43:03 GMT

Thanks for all the comments from other people .. 

umm the problem is still there, but I have isolated the problem.

1.   The PAS-16 SCSI interface seems to work.
2.   When I plug in the CD-ROM to the PAS, it tries to workk with
     the CDROM but ends up just sitting in :

        Detected SCSI CD-ROM sr0 @ scsi0, id1, lun 0
        scsi0: reseting for second half of retries.

This is where it hangs... Anybody else have this problem ?

I have tried 2 versions of the PAS16.. 650-0044-06H and 650-0097-05D.
Both exhibit the same problem.

I tried talking to mediavision but they (as I expected) didn't 
know anything about Linux and the PAS16.

Thanks in advance

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Tri Tran)
Subject: Re: Help: Superblock problem <Solved>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:32:42 GMT

>In comp.os.linux.misc Roland Isom ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Here are some more info for the problem that I've posted
>: earlier.  Upon reading the "EXT2FS-FAQ" and doing some more
>: testing, I've discovered that my superblock is still good.
>: I use the command: "e2fsck -b superblock" to see that the
>: file system is still in good shape.  However, the following
>: error message is shown when the kernel attemp to mount the
>: root filesystem.
>:      .
>:      .
>:      .
>:      ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexisting block device 0801
>:      Minix-fs: Unable to read superblock
>:      ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexisting block device 0801
>:      EXT2-fs:  Unable to read superblock
>:      .
>:      .
>:      Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
>: Then the system freeze.  Now if I boot from my default boot floppy
>: disk, it can mount the root fs and I can access the data on it without
>: any problem.  Any hints as to what's going on?
>
>: Tri
>: Please email the above account or at [email-masked]
>

Well, it turn out that the new kernel can't handle the IRQ setting
that I had for the old (1.0.8) kernel.  There was an error message
during the bootup process and I didn't notice it before since it pass
by pretty fast.  Anyway, all I had to do was reassign my IRQ to a different
unused one and that was that.  By the way, my controller card is the
Ultrastor 34FA.  The IRQ that was giving me problem was IRQ10.
Now if I can only get my Stealth Pro to go 16 bit color depth.  Any
hints?

Tri
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