From owner-riscy@pyramid.com  Mon Jul 19 05:51:39 1993
Received: from gossip.pyramid.com by SunSITE.unc.edu (4.1/tas-gen/1-30-93)
	id AA14636; Mon, 19 Jul 93 05:51:39 EDT
Received: from sword.eng.pyramid.com 
	by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
	id AA11212; Mon, 19 Jul 93 02:51:05 -0700
Received: by sword.eng.pyramid.com (5.61/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration)
	id AA28901; Mon, 19 Jul 93 02:50:23 -0700
Received: from goss.pyramid.com
	by sword.eng.pyramid.com (5.61/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration)
	id AA28894; Mon, 19 Jul 93 02:50:20 -0700
Received: from neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu 
	by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
	id AA11200; Mon, 19 Jul 93 02:50:49 -0700
Message-Id: <9307190950.AA11200@gossip.pyramid.com>
Received: by neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04564; Mon, 19 Jul 93 05:49:50 -0400
From: Bill Broadley <broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu>
Subject: Mips cpu's
To: riscy@pyramid.com (Mips 3000)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 05:49:50 -0500 (EDT)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 1206      
Sender: owner-riscy@pyramid.com
Reply-To: riscy@pyramid.com

Check out the recent Intel vs HP,MIPS, AMD,CRYIX message in comp.sys.intel

It has alot of information on the current state of the cpu market.

Not sure how accuracte.  But it's interesting.

It also mentions some interesting stuff about $50-$70 cpu's:
There are also some amazing MIPS
chips coming (see Microprocessor Report May 31 1993).  The first (from NEC
at only $70!!!) is really low power (2 watts vs Pentiums 16) and equal in
performance to the Pentium.  You can get info on this by calling 1-800 I
GO MIPS and with a touch tone phone asking the machine to FAX you
Documents No. 205 and 206.  You can also call James Mac Hale at MIPS at
415-390-4560. The other is about 30% faster (from IDT) and a bit more than
$70.  Since MIPS runs NT these can run all of the Intel software.  At $70
this is twice as fast as Intel's 486 which costs like $500 (Intel's bread
and butter).  These chips are smaller than the 486 and so very cheap to
make (like 1/10th to 1/20th the cost of the Pentium).


-- 
Bill					1st>	Broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Broadley@schneider3.lrdc.pitt.edu <2nd 	3rd> 	             Broadley+@pitt.edu
Linux is great.         Bike to live, live to bike.                      PGP-ok

 
From owner-riscy@pyramid.com  Mon Jul 19 07:13:08 1993
Received: from gossip.pyramid.com by SunSITE.unc.edu (4.1/tas-gen/1-30-93)
	id AA16384; Mon, 19 Jul 93 07:13:08 EDT
Received: from sword.eng.pyramid.com 
	by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
	id AA17708; Mon, 19 Jul 93 04:12:39 -0700
Received: by sword.eng.pyramid.com (5.61/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration)
	id AA04014; Mon, 19 Jul 93 04:11:34 -0700
Received: from goss.pyramid.com
	by sword.eng.pyramid.com (5.61/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration)
	id AA04007; Mon, 19 Jul 93 04:11:32 -0700
Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net 
	by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
	id AA17391; Mon, 19 Jul 93 04:12:00 -0700
Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net(EUnetD-2.3.0.f) via EUnet
	id KR03032; Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:08:26 +0200
Received: from resi 
	by wegy.waldorf-gmbh.de with SMTP (5.61/GEN-1.0.7)
	via EUnet for unido
	id AA16052; Mon, 19 Jul 93 13:03:56 +0200
From: Andreas Busse <andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 13:02:47 +0200
Message-Id: <9307191102.AA07330@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de>
Received: by resi.waldorf-gmbh.de (5.61/GEN-1.0.7)
	via EUnet for wegy.waldorf-gmbh.de
	id AA07330; Mon, 19 Jul 93 13:02:47 +0200
To: riscy@pyramid.com
Subject: Re:  Mips cpu's
Sender: owner-riscy@pyramid.com
Reply-To: riscy@pyramid.com

> [...]
> It also mentions some interesting stuff about $50-$70 cpu's:
> There are also some amazing MIPS
> chips coming (see Microprocessor Report May 31 1993).  The first (from NEC
> at only $70!!!) is really low power (2 watts vs Pentiums 16) and equal in
> performance to the Pentium.  You can get info on this by calling 1-800 I
> GO MIPS and with a touch tone phone asking the machine to FAX you
> Documents No. 205 and 206.  You can also call James Mac Hale at MIPS at
> 415-390-4560. The other is about 30% faster (from IDT) and a bit more than
> $70.  Since MIPS runs NT these can run all of the Intel software.  At $70
> this is twice as fast as Intel's 486 which costs like $500 (Intel's bread
> and butter).  These chips are smaller than the 486 and so very cheap to
> make (like 1/10th to 1/20th the cost of the Pentium).

Although we wouldn't get the parts for these prices (they are meant
for quantities > 1000 !!) Bill is right. We should *at least* wait
a few weeks to see what happens on the R4x00 market.
I expect informations from IDT this week.
However, a R3000 solution might be obsolete within some months,
so we should not hurry up building a thing which might be *relatively*
underpowered and overpriced.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Waldorf Electronics GmbH        | Phone:  +49 (0)2636-80294
              R&D Department            | Fax:    +49 (0)2636-80188
Neustrasse 9-12, 53498 Waldorf, Germany | email:  andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
