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From: D-P Deng <deng@BUNNY.RHIC.BNL.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Chinese TeX; collecting a Free HanZi dictionary
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Ops, I must've been getting old, I forgot my second part on a free hanzi
dictionary. I start to edit a free hanzi dictionary in the spirit of GNU
copyleft. On my hands there are "xin hua zi dian" and "shi yong han zi zi
dian", I have finished all characters starting with "a" and "b". The format
looks like this

"hanzi" "pinyin" "meaning" "examples"

Each hanzi by itself is one item, which is followed by pinyin and meaning and
examples to illustrate its usage.

I'm pretty sure there are netters that have some items lying around. If you
like the idea, I'd like to receive them from you and make them available to
everyone. Thank you for your attention.

Dong-Ping

From owner-ccnet-l@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 26 19:56:20 1995
Date:         Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:11:41 +0059
Reply-To: Richard S Cook <rscook@WORLD.STD.COM>
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From: Richard S Cook <rscook@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Kang Xi etc
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Status: RO

Response to Mr. Schiffer <<dschiffer@HORIZONSBBS.COM>>:
>>I'm wondering how many entries the oft quoted Kang Xi dictionary
>>has, as well as if there is an electronic version of it?

If there is an electronic version of Kang1Xi1 Zi4dian3, I also want to
know about it. What about Shuo1Wen2Jie3Zi4 and the classics? Does anyone
have info on where I can find a Big5 Spring and Fall Classic?

The Kang Xi Zidian published in 1716 contained 47,035 entries divided
under 214 classifiers. The original work used the twelve earthly branches
to mark the dictionary into twelve divisions, and each division was
subsequently divided into three volumes. So the original dictionary was
composed in thirty-six volumes.

There have been a number of new editions since then, some of which are
printed in considerably smaller format (one or two volumes) and
incorporate corrections, changes and additions. So one you find may vary.

Other dictionaries contain more characters with their periodic/stylistic
variants and also modern etymologies. For example, the Hanyv Da Zidian
contains about 56,000 entries, with each entry containing from zero to
twenty or so periodic/stylistic variants. These periodic/stylistic
variants include exempla from oracle bone and shell inscriptions right on
up through stone, bronze and seal characters. Some dicitionaries, in
addition contain relatively modern caligraphic variants (e.g. cao3shu1.)

Therefore, when someone talks about making "all" Chinese characters
available in an electronic font, as I read recently on this list, the
person really ought to consider that "all" for the purposes of the
linguist or the whole literary tradition is really a very large number of
characters. A conservative estimate might be 100,000 characters, assuming
on average three variants (jia3gu3, jin1wen2, xiao3zhuan4) for about two
thirds of the entries. Many variants can be hypothesized for which there
are no exempla.

But a truly comprehensive font would include the entire inventory of
bronze and bone/shell character variants, some of which have no modern
counterparts.

Thus the definition of what constitutes a "complete" character set really
is dependent upon usage.

rscook@world.std.com
Richard S. Cook, Jr.
111 Park Dr. Suite 58
Boston, MA 02215
voice: 617-267-4925


From owner-ccnet-l@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 11 21:30:46 1995
Reply-To: g3105@ROSE.CNC.AC.CN
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From: Ting Wang <g3105@ROSE.CNC.AC.CN>
Subject:      Brief introduction about EC-Win.
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
Status: R

On Oct 10, Qile Hu <yuhong@minerva.cis.yale.edu> wrote:
>        Hi, there. Could you please give more info about the EC Win?
>        Thanx in advance.

Well, EC-Win is a computerized Einglish-Chinese/Chinese-English
on-line dictionary. It runs both with MS DOS and Windows 3.X (fails
to display correctly under Win95). It is a commercial product and
the company secures every disk. :-)

EC-Win contains many sub-dictionaries in the fields of literature,
computer, electronics, chemistry, mechanics, medicine, business,
law, architecture. You can type the Chinese word for the
translation of English, and type the English word for the translation
of Chinese. If you are reading a English file on PC, you can point
the mouse to the English word unknown and push the left button, EC-Win
will prompt the Chinese translation for you, and you can point your
mouse to the Chinese translation to push the right button of the mouse,
EC-Win will send the Chinese translation to the cusor position in
the word-processor you are just swiching from.

I am a user of this product and feel it is convient for me as I have
to read a lot of message from Internet every day.

Wish it helpful to you.

Wang


