Subject: CND-US, Nov. 11, 1990

From: Weihe Guan <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 90 17:43:03 EST

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                              November 11, 1990

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1. "Yours is a beautiful movement, ..." -- Reader's Comment ............15
2. Meeting New PRC Chicago Educational Consul at UIC ...................44
3. Seminar about Diaoyutai Held at Columbia University .................59
4. CND Q&A COLUMN ON VISA/JOB/LEGAL MATTERS (No. 15)  ................. 90
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1. "Yours is a beautiful movement, ..." -- Reader's Comment ............15
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 22:22:52 EST
From: [email-masked] (John Cornett)

Dear Sirs:

   Your report of international volunteers in the Chinese Democracy Fund
Advisory Board moves me deeply. Yours is a beautiful movement, and I am so
happy to see such excellent people standing beside you. This is what the
Chinese people deserve. We are from many places, many nationalities, many
races, but we are really one family.

          Sincerely,     John Cornett
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2. Meeting New PRC Chicago Educational Consul at UIC ...................44
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Source: SCC
From: [email-masked] (Wei Sun)
Date: 9 Nov 90 14:54:41 GMT

        Meeting with Officials of PRC Consulate in Chicago

   On November 7 of 1990, the College of Engineering of University
of Illinois at Chicago organized an informal reception for the newly
appointed consul of education from the PRC consulate general's office.
The reception is held for the new consul of education because the new
consul, Mr. Zhang, was previously a vice president of Tsinghua
University and whom the dean of the College of Engineering of UIC
has known him  personally when the dean visited China. All Chinese students
studying in the College of Engineering are invited to attend the meeting.
Another official, Mr. Zhang Jiwen, from the education section of PRC
Chicago consulate accompanied the former VP of Tsinghua. About 50
Chinese students showed up in the reception. Among the questions and
answers raised during the meeting, the following may be interesting
to you:

Q: Can two-year passport be extended?
A: Yes. If you have approval from domestic working unit, we can extend two
   years each time. Otherwise, one year each time.

Q: If one has changed his/her visa from J-1 to F-1, can his/her passport
   be extended?
A: Yes. Such student will still be considered state-sent if he/she was
   state-sent before the change.

Q: What is the normal length of each extension?
A: Two years for visiting scholars and three years for students.

Q: If one is working and have H-1 visa, can the passport be extended?
A: Yes. As far as one has not got PR, he/she will still be considered
   as an overseas student regardless of whether he/she was government-
   sponsored or not.

Q: How about the ones who have got PR and who were previously
   government-sponsored?
A: They need to change their passports from "public-affair" (Yin Gong)
   to "private-affair" (Yin Si). To be able to do that, one has to clear
   all the previous debt owning to domestic unit or to the government.
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3. Seminar about Diaoyutai Held at Columbia University .................59
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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 90 03:49:46 EDT
From:         Kewen Jin <[email-masked]>

Dear netters,

      In the evening of Nov.9, 1990, a seminar about the "History,
Geography, Politics, and Legal aspects of Diaoyutai Islands" was
held at Columbia University. This seminar was jointly sponsored by
Chinese Student Association ( IFCSS member ) and Pine Society
( Association of Chinese Students from Taiwan ). The seminar
featured two main speakers:
   Dr. Chew Hong-Da, Professor of International Law
                     University of Maryland Law School
   Dr. Chen Chin ,   Professor of Political Science
                      Rutgers University
 The seminar was well attended and lively discussions followed each
speech. The seminar was funded by Coalition for Defending Diaoyutai
Islands, an organization of Chinese academics, professionals,
businessmen, community leaders, and students at Columbia University.
The coordinator  of the Coalition, Sam Chen, also attended and
gave a short speech.

   The Coalition was established three weeks ago. The Coalition has
done and plan to do the following:

1.has sent letters to governments in Beijing and Taipei, appealing
  for stronger actions to defend the Islands.

2.will organize a rally on Nov.11,1990 to protest Japanese occupation
  of the Islands. The rally will be held at 1pm at Time Square,
  Manhattan, New York City.

3.has sent a protest letter to the Japanese government.

4.will buy a full-page space in New York Times for a protest letter.

5.has helped organized a seminar at Columbia University.

6.has edited and printed " Diaoyutai belong to China
  --- history, geography, and legal evidences "
  ( This booklet is in Chinese. Free copies are available upon
    request. Please contact:
    either Sam Chen  212-741-0222
    or     Kewen Jin 212-678-6095
             [email-masked]   )

Further actions are under planning.
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4. CND Q&A COLUMN ON VISA/JOB/LEGAL MATTERS (No. 15) ...................90
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From: CND Q&A Editor Bo Xiong <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90

NOTE: All discussions on this column are for readers' information only, one
      should consult his/her lawyer or proper professionals before handling
      his/her own visa/job/legal matters.

I. Parents Staying in US with America-Born-Chinese Baby
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Q: From: [email-masked]   Date: Wed, 24 Oct 90 11:48 EDT

   My friends have a child born in America.  Is there any way for them to stay
   in this country till the child is 18?  The reason could be such as that to
   let the child receive American education, etc. My friends hold F1/F2 visas.

A: As per current US immigration laws, US citizen, if s/he is 21 years or
   older, may have their alien parents immigrate into US.  An US citizen's
   parents will be treated as ordinary aliens and subject to all applicable
   laws as alien, i.e., they may not use their child(ren)'s US citizenship as
   the only reason to stay in the US until one of the children is 21 or older.

II. America-Born-Chinese Baby Entering PRC
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Q-1: From: [email-masked]   Date: Sat, 3 Nov 90 21:51:02 EST

   I have just got a baby, and I want to send the baby back to China with an
   US passport.  Does any body know what is the procedure of getting a visa
   from the Chinese embassy for my baby?  If it is still allowed.

A: If either of you and your spouse is US citizen or PR, you may choose either
   US or PRC citizenship for your baby according to PRC Nationality Code (Of
   course, your baby is a born US citizen per US law), in this case, you just
   take your baby's US passport to the PRC Embassy or Consulates and apply for
   a visa. If a visa is granted, it's usually less than a year. Your baby will
   have to renew visa in China if s/he will stay there longer.

   If both of you and your spouse are PRCer without US PR,  PRC government
   will not recognize the US citizenship of your baby according to PRC law.
   They will not issue the visa to your baby, instead, they'll issue a PRC
   Travel Certificate (an one-year-valid travel document) to your baby for
   hin/her to enter PRC as a PRC citizen.  Some goodwill PRC consular officers
   would suggest that you keep your baby's US passport and only show the PRC
   Travel Certificate when your baby passes PRC passport control station (If
   you show the baby's US passport together with PRC Travel Cocument, PRC
   officer will usually confiscate it and let your baby enter PRC anyway).
   It's said that the policy is relaxed recently and PRC consulates do issue
   entry visa to such babies on their US passports in certain circumstances.
   You should check your local PRC consulate for detail.

   Your baby may use the US passport when s/he leaves PRC in the future.  By
   the way, according to the recent statement made by US State Dept., using
   foreign passport/travel document will not affect one's US citizenship
   unless the person states before an US consular officer that s/he is
   willingly to give up US citizenship or serve in foreign troops/government.
   (Neither US nor PRC government recongnizes dual citizenship).

   Finally, since your baby is an US citizen, you should contact US embassy/
   consulates in PRC  for help in case that your baby runs into trouble with
   any of PRC authorities.  Also, it's a good idea to keep in touch with US
   consulate if/while you let the baby live in PRC for long time.

Q-2: From ***@***.decnet.cern.ch  Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 21:41:29 +0100

   I have a question regarding the visit to China by children born in U.S.
   (but their parents are the "public affair" passport holder).  The children,
   in principle, can have U.S. passports.  Suppose they are very little (say
   between 1 to 4 years old).  If they are going to visit China with their
   parents,

   1) The Chinese Customs will treat them as the normal U.S. citizens or
      differently?  More technically, the children should go through the
      window for foreigners or the one for chinese passport holders?

   2) If they got U.S. passports in the first month after the birth, their
      pictures in passports would be the newborn babies; their faces will
      change almost completely when they are 2 years old and up.  The U.S. law
      does not allow to issue a new passport for the child until the 5 years
      passport expired.  In this case, would Chinese authority question the
      legitimacy of the passport (since the child's face is almost totally
      different from the picture in the passport)?  If the question is raised,
      what the parents(i.e. Chinese students without PR) can do and should do?

A: 1) and part of 2) have been discussed in above Q-1/A.  There is no reason
   for PRC authority to raise such a question since PRC issues five-year-valid
   passport to PRC babies too, except that they have a reason to think that
   someone is to smuggle baby out of PRC by multiply using the US passport.

   If you do want to avoid possible trouble, you may keep a chronological
   collection of your baby's photos and use the collection to prove that
   the baby is the same person as shown on the US passport.

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