From acsss-owner@list.Stanford.EDU Tue May 24 14:15:43 1994 Date: 24 May 1994 14:01:28 U From: "Rangchen Yu" Subject: The transcript from the CBS The transcript from the CBS program Thanks to Steave Lei faxing me the transcript. I typed the text relevent to the story on "Chinese espionage". This is copy-righted by CBS, and is for research only (don't use it to make a few bucks). In the brackets are some of my comments. I hope readers seriously do your " research" on the document, and make your own judgement whether the CBS defamed our Chinese community in the US. We should initiating a class action suit against CBS for defaming Chinese community in the Eye to the America program. Rangchen Yu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connie Chung: And later, Eye on America, Tonight, how a foreign power may be planting the seeds in your backyard. ........ Chung: Comming up next, Eye on America. Tonight, the biggest spy network in America. We'll tell you who's running it and how. Connie Chung, co-anchor: The recent Ames spy case served as a reminder that the espionage bussiness in this country is still thriving; that you don't always find spies in trench coats and that you could find them in the house next door. In a special investigation, CBS News found out how China is grooming agents to keep an Eye on America. Unidentified Woman: Only US citizens continue straight ahead. (I think this sentence is out of place---RC.) Chung: Every day, planeloads of Chinese citizens arrive legally in the United States, ordinary people. But to the Chinese government, some of them may be future spies, who a few year down the road, will be activated to steal America's military and technological secrets, whether they want to or not. (The last sentence is offensive.-- it implies EVERYBODY from China may become a spy whether they wants to be one or not--RC). Are there any other contries that you know of that have this kind of spy network operating here in the United States? Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades (Defence Information Agency): No. Not-certainly not to this--to this degree. ( CBS report seems solely based on this guy's material, based on which he make a few quick bucks by writing a book. We may sue this SOB too....RC.) Chung: Nicholas Eftimiades, who works for an American spy agency, the Defence Information Agency. His new book on Chinese intelligence raise questions for American government and business. Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades: I don't think we can say at this point any Western government is prepared to deal with this type of espionage threat, because it's different from anything that we've known to date. Chung: It all start here in Beijin. A Chinese student or scientist or businessperson applies for a visa to go to the US. Then the Ministry of State Security asking questions: What cab you learn in the State> Will you be working with computer? Will you be loyal to China? And most importantly, can you be patient? Eftimiades says the prospective spiues are trained, paid and warned to stay in touch, 'Remember.' they are told. 'we'll be watching your family members in China.' 'Lay low until you're contacted.' they are told. It could be years. (This is another pure fabrication. It makes the impression that the Chinese Security Service will enlist EVERYBODY to be a spy....RC.) Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades: Let me put it to you in the terms that the Chinese Intelligence Service describes it: Chen di yu, which is a Ministry of State Security slang term for fish on the bottom of the ocean. This has been defined in Western espionage as sleeper agents. Chung: So they just sit there like fish at the bottom of the ocean and do nothing? Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades: They wait. Chung: Until they have to surface. Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades: Exactly. Chung: This man is one of those Chinese fish at the bottom of the American ocean. Call him a reluctunt spy. he's afraid he'll be contacted soon to hand over state-of-the-art computer programs. Unidentified Man#1: Never forget, you belong to our organization. Chung: ' Never forget," they told him, ' you belong to our organization.' Man#1: You were sent by our organization. Chung: ' You were sent by our organization, and this organization belongs to the Communist Party.' Man#1:...Communist Party. Chung; Twenty-three years ago this man, Kao Yen Men, came to the US. In recent years, he lived a quiet life in this house in Cherlotte, North Carolina, and he even bought a restaurrant in downtown Cherlotte. His neighbors never knew what he was up to. Unidentified Man #2: I really didn't know what to think. I mean, you know, we came down to this nice little Southern city, and the next thing you know I'm down the street from a spy. I thought this was, like, a little friction movie or something, but... Chung: Some movie. After a six-year FBI investigation, Kao was arrested and charged with trying to steal the advanced Mar 48 torpedo, engine for the FA-18 Homet jet fighter and radar for the F-16 Falcon jet. Kao was caught, but security expert 'Pat pattakos says most American companies are too naive about the Chinese spy thret. Mr. Arion "Pat" Pattakos (Beta Analysis): Right now a lot of people don't really think of the protecting themselves. Chung: Especially when the target is information and computer data... Mr. Pattakos: They'll look at all this information here that they can access. Unidentified man #3: Yes. Chung: ...all part of the more and more accesible information superhighway. Mr. Pattakos: I mean, it's very easy to know when a truck is missing in front of your place. I mean, it's gone. It's physical object. But think about information. Information is more intangible, and people may not know--realize that it's lost. Chung: pattakos says a new national strategy between business and government can trap the spies. Eftimiades is much less optimistic. Mr. Eftimiades: Once these spies get into American society, once they're deeply rooted into our structure, our society's structure, we're not going to be able to detect them. There is no way to stop them at this point. Chung: The FBI is trying to help American corporation protect themselves from espionage. The bureau has a program now to brief executives about how their companies could become targets. Dan. (The whole report provides ZERO statistical data to support the notion that Chinese government run "the biggest spy network in America"!) ......