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Subject: The Proposals by the CPA
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Status: RO

DATE:     January 3, 1994
TO:       IFCSS Council, Finance Sub-Committee and IFCSS SVC
FROM:     IFCSS HQ
SUBJECT:  Proposals by CPA to Professionalize IFCSS Accounting

Up to the deadline of December 31, 1993, the HQ has received four
proposals in response to the HQ's request for the bid to
professionalize the IFCSS accounting system. 

Now the process is open to consultation and evaluation. The HQ
considers the following criteria most essential in finalizing the
winner of the bid:
1.   The professional reputation and experience.
2.   That the firm's proposed service and business profile
closely fit the need of IFCSS as a non-profit organization within
the CSS community.
3.   The cost.

Should you have questions concerning the matter, please let us
know. The HQ will continue to keep you informed and look forward
to your opinions and advice. Thank you.

Attached are the four proposals.

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                        PROPOSAL BY MYINT & BUNTUA
                       Certified Public Accountants
                       5203 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300
                          Falls Church, VA 22041
                            Tel:  (703)845-1555

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Lin Changsheng,

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

we will perform the following services:

I.   Compilation

     we will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheet and the related statements of revenue,
     expenses, fund balances, and cash flows of IFCSS for the
     year ended June 30, 1993. We will not audit or review such
     financial statements. Our report on the annual financial
     statements of IFCSS is presently expected to read as
     follows:

          We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of
          IFCSS, and the related statements of revenue, expenses,
          fund balances and cash flows for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. We have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

Your bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and
any supporting schedules we require.

II.  Federal and State Tax Returns

     We will also prepare the federal tax return 990 for IFCSS
     for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, we will in form you of any material
errors that come to our attention and any irregularities or
illegal acts that come to our attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

     For items I and II, we estimate our fee to be $1,630.

III. Limited Review of Accounting Systems and Procedures

     We will review your current accounting system, procedures
     and administrative controls. We will report on our review
     and provide you with our recommendations.

     Our fee for Item III will be based on the number of hours
     and the staff positions of the individuals assigned. Based
     on our survey, we estimate that we will incur the following:

          Classification           Hours          Amount

          Partner                   2             $  190

          Senior                   20             $  900
                                                  -------
                                                  $1,090

We shall be pleased to discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.

                                   Sincerely,

                                   Ellen Myint, CPA
                                   Partner

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Terry T. Fang
Certified Public Accountant
3328 Monarch Lane
Annandale, VA 22003
(703)560-4520

December 22, 1993

Mr. Changsheng Lin
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, N.W. Suite 440
Washington, D.C. 20005

Dear Mr. Lin:

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

1.   We will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheets and related statements of income, retained
earnings, and cash flow of Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars (IFCSS) for the year ended September 30,
1993. We will not audit or review such financial statements. Our
report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is presently
expected to read as follows:

     "We have compile the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS as
of September 30, 1993, and the related statements of income,
retained earnings, and cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with statements on Standards for Accounting and Review
Services issued by the American Institute of Certified Public
Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
financial statement information this is the representation of
management. We have not audited or reviewed the accompanying
financial statements and, accordingly, do not express an opinion
or any other form of assurance on them."

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation or
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   We will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
account so that he/she will be able to prepare a working trial
balance from which financial statements can be compiled. Your
bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and any
supporting schedules we require.

3.   We will evaluate your current internal control and
accounting system, and make suggestions as necessary.

4.   We will also prepare the federal and state information
returns and income tax returns, if required, for IFCSS for the
fiscal year ended September 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors and
irregularities, including fraud or defalcations, that may exist.
However, we will inform you of irregularities that come to our
attention, unless they are inconsequential.

Our fee for these services is $800.00. We shall be pleased to
discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.


Sincerely yours,



-----------------------
Terry T. Fang, CPA







Acknowledgment:
Independent Federation of 
Chinese Students and Scholars




-----------------------
President



------------
Date


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                         PROPOSAL BY JEFF W.S. LIN
                        Certified Public Accountant
                      414 Hungerford Drive, Suite 236
                            Rockville, MD 20850
                  Tel: (301)762-0479   Fax: (301)309-0479

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington D.C. 20005

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of my engagement and the nature and limitations of the
services I will provide.

I will perform the following services:

1.   I will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheets and the related statements of income and
     retained earnings, of IFCSS for the year ended June 30,
     1993. I will not audit or review such financial statements.
     My report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is
     presently expected to read as follows:

          I have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS
          as of June 30, 1993, and the related statements of
          income and retained earnings, for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          Accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. I have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters.

If, for any reason, I am unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, I will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   I will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
     accounts so that she will be able to prepare a working trial
     balance from which financial statements can be compiled.
     Your bookkeeper will provide me with a detailed trial
     balance and any supporting schedules I require.

3.   I will also prepare the federal and state income tax returns
     for IFCSS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

My engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, I will inform you of any material errors
that may come to my attention and any irregularities or illegal
acts that come to my attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

My fee for the above services will be a flat fee of $1500.00.

Furthermore, I will conduct a study of the internal control
structure of IFCSS and report the results thereof to you. This
study requires the cooperation from all personnel within the
organization. Again, I will not conduct the audit or review of
the IFCSS's financial statements. The fee for this service will
be $700.00.

At your request, I will also draft up an accounting policy manual
which will be based on my internal control study to spell out the
detail control procedures, the control environment and the
accounting system. The fee for this service will be $400.00.

Based on the conversation we had and the prior engagement I had
with your firm, I firmly believe that the above three (3)
services will enable your organization to run the business in a
more efficient and professional manner and to serve the overseas
Chinese students and scholars most effectively.

Should you have any questions with regard to any of the
aforementioned proposals please do not hesitate to call me.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
along with a check in the amount of $1300.00 (one half of total
fee) to me at your earliest convenience.

                              Sincerely,


                              Jeff W. S. Lin, CPA (signed)



Acknowledged:  
IFCSS

_________________________
President      

_________________________
Date


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PROPOSAL TO SERVE INDEPENDENT FEDERATION OF CHINESE
STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS

December 27, 1993

COHEN
RUTHERFORD
BLUM&SCHOTT,PC
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

6903 Rockledge Dr. Suite 1330
Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800
Telephone 301-530-2200
Telefax   301-530-3625


December 27,1993

Mr. Xiaozhu Liu
Executive Director
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, NW, Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Liu:

We are pleased to present our proposal to serve the Independent
of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS) as your independent
accountants and business advisors, and we appreciate the
opportunity to have been called upon to respond to your request
for proposal (REP) per our meeting of December 22, 1993. As this
proposal will demonstrate, we are interested in serving IFCSS,
and as an important client of our firm, you can be sure of our
commitment to provide timely, quality services.

Based on our meeting, it is apparent that your management style
coincides with our philosophy concerning client service. As
mentioned to you, member of our firm pride themselves as more
than a "once a year visitor" and can and will respond quickly to
all of your accounting and financial needs. We are interested in
providing advice that will help you make proper business
decisions to effectively and efficiently operate IFCSS. Only with
proper information, obtained on a timely basis, can management be
effective in its role and in maintaining its fiduciary
responsibility in overseeing the operations of IFCSS. I believe
it is important to you and IFCSS to have a full service firm
being integrally involved with your operation. especially as you
expand our operations in fulfilling your mission and purpose in
accordance with your Articles of Incorporation.

Our proposal is structured to emphasize the importance we place
on client service and the service we would deliver to IFCSS, and
to affirm the commitment of our people who will work with you.
IFCSS should expect more than an efficient and quality
compilation from its independent accountants and our philosophy
of client service parallels that expectation. We are confident
that after reviewing our proposal, you will agree that Cohen,
Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the desire and resources to deliver
the level of services required by IFCSS.

FIRM BACKGROUND

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott is a certified public accounting
firm which was formed in the fall of 1980. We have a professional
staff of approximately 25 full-time employees, and our main
office is located at Two Democracy Center, 6903 Rockledge Drive,
Suite 1330, Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800. We currently provide
annual audit, tax, and consulting services to a wide variety of
clients, a significant portion of which are not-for-profit
organizations and associations. In addition to performing audit
and consulting services, our firm provides tax and financial
planning services, accounting assistance, and a wide range of
management advisory consulting services. We are very confident
that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the means, experience,
and expertise to provide the needed services to meet the
requirements of IFCSS.

Because not-for-profit organizations represent a significant
portion of our current clientele, we have kept abreast of all
significant audit and tax changes and proposals affecting the
industry. Since we are involved with the sizable association
network within the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area, we are
very familiar with the unique characteristics of fund accounting
and other relevant aspects affecting accounting, cost
allocations, finance, and administration of these types of
organizations. Several of our current audit clients' operations
would appear to be comparable to IFCSS's, whose revenue,
membership structure and programs are similar to your
organization's.

Our clientele includes organizations who receive, as either
direct recipients or subrecipients, federal assistance of varying
amounts. We are therefore familiar with the government audit
procedures and reporting mechanisms for compliance under the
applicable Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Circulars, if
IFCSS were subject to federal funding requiring an audit.

We have also had principals of the firm volunteer their services
as technical advisors to certain committees or boards of our
clients, as well as serving as board members for nonclients.
Members of our firm have been active participants in chambers of
commerce, the American Society of Association Executives, the
Greater Washington Society of Association Executives, and
numerous other trade associations. We would also like to mention
that our firm underwent a quality review in 1993 performed by an
external, independent accounting firm, the results of which were
very positive and an unmodified report was issued. We are
dedicated to providing the best and broadest professional
services to our clients by utilizing our expertise and knowledge
through a well defined and thoroughly planned work approach and
communication mechanism.

Our firm has also assisted our clients in compensation analysis,
ballot counts, write-up services, preparation of operating and
capital budgets, W-2 and 1099 preparation, staffing analysis,
assessment of computer needs and development of requests for
information and requests for proposals for management information
systems, as well as other areas. We are sure that our experience
and resources can be applied to IFCSS's operations as needed
which may prove to be beneficial to your organization.

SCOPE OF SERVICES AND TIMING

It is our understanding that the scope of services desired by
IFCSS would include a compilation of the accrual basis financial
statements (balance sheet, statements of revenue and expense and
fund balance, and cash flows) as of June 30, 1993 and for the
year then ended, and possibly also future fiscal periods;
preparation of the 1993 annual tax returns (federal Forms 990 and
990T); and various accounting and consulting services as
discussed via the RFP and further outlined below. As mentioned
previously, we confident that we have the resources, expertise,
and the experience to provide quality services essential to meet
your requirements.

A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of financial
statements information that is the representation of management.
You also requested that the compilation includes footnote
disclosures. We will not audit or review such financial
statements. Our report on the annual financial statements of the
Federation is presently expected to read as follows:

     We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet        
     of the Independent Federation of Chinese Students 
     and Scholars as the June 30, 1993, and the related     
     statements of  income and expenses and changed in 
     fund balance, cash flows for the year then ended, in   
     accordance with standards established by the American  
     Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form 
     of financial statements information that is the   
     representation of management. We have not audited to  
     reviewed the accompanying financial statements and    
     accordingly, do not
     express and opinion or any other 
     form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement. At the conclusion of
compilation procedures, we would request certain written
representations from management about your financial statements
and matters related thereto. Our compilation is subject to the
inherent risk that material errors, irregularities, or illegal
acts, including fraud or defalcations, if they exist, would not
be detected. However, we would inform you of any such matters
that come to our attention.

We will actively work with management to anticipate change rather
than merely react to change. We will follow a policy that demands
planning, coordination, and continual communications with key
management personnel of IFCSS, conducting our work at the highest
level of quality at a reasonable cost. Using this approach, IFCSS
will benefit from our wide range of expertise and experience, and
we can be made aware on a timely basis of your needs, problems,
and concerns.

Our services will begin be meeting with you and other key
personnel to thoroughly plan the engagement, develop the client
assistance list, and become familiar with your systems and
procedures. We will utilize to the greatest extent possible
financial and statistical information, workpapers and reports
prepared by you and your personnel and will coordinated our work
with them.

Also, we would prepare and deliver to management a report, after
discussing it with management, which summarizes realistic
recommendations for improving the effectiveness of IFCSS's
accounting, administrative, and operational controls and
procedures, based on our observations and select inquiries of
IFCSS management. However, we will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS, as such a review and evaluation is
not within the scope of this engagement.

The specific timing of the compilation procedures would be worked
out with management based on an agreed-upon schedule. It is
anticipated that the work conducted on-site would not exceed more
than two to three days, and most likely could be achieved within
this period assuming the accounting records are in order and the
client assistance schedule is accurately and thoroughly
completed.

Control Over IFCSS Engagement

The success of any professional engagement depends primarily on
the dedication and abilities of the assigned executives, the
relationships they build with our client's management and staff,
and the selection of the overall audit and consulting team
assigned to the engagement. We believe that we can provide a team
of individuals with the qualities necessary to appropriately and
effectively serve IFCSS as its independent accountants, tax
preparers, and business advisors.

Dan D'Agostino, a principal of the firm, will be the assigned
executive for the engagement. He will be responsible for ensuring
effective planning and staffing, timely performance, continuing
communications, the resolution of questions and potential
problems, and quality control. He will be assisted by a staff
member, most likely Jing Chen who met you at the meeting last
week. Dan has over 19 years experience as a business consultant,
predominantly conducting and managing audit and accounting
engagements as well as numerous and various management advisory
consulting services.

Dan and/or other members of the firm as deemed appropriate will
meet with management during the year to discuss matters affecting
IFCSS as needed to bring important issues to your attention. And,
if any matters requiring assistance do arise during the year, the
executive will have our firm respond quickly and with experienced
personnel. 

Elliot Blum is a principal responsible for the firms' tax
practice and he will coordinate the tax services to IFCSS. In
this role he will have the responsibility for ensuring timely 
and complete preparation of the tax returns (Federal Forms 990
and 990T), and will ensure that ample time is allotted to review
all tax returns with you in advance of the filing dates. He will
be assisted by members of the firm's tax division, who will also
be available to respond to tax questions or issues and provide
tax planning as the need arises.

Our firm also has two full-time consultants who are solely
dedicated to management information systems and are very
knowledgeable of computer programming, applications and operating
systems. Other consultants of the firm as involved with numerous
other consulting activities. We will draw upon their expertise as
deemed necessary throughout the audit engagement, and in other
services that may be needed and requested by IFCSS throughout the
fiscal period.

PROFESSIONAL FEES AND EXPENSES

As mentioned during our meeting, we would prefer to have IFCSS as
a client over a long term, and since we want to develop a
positive client relationship with IFCSS that we believe would be
mutually rewarding, we have taken the liberty to present a fee
arrangement for not only the 1993 fiscal period, but also for
1994 and 1995. You will note that the fees for the three year
engagement are thus discounted, and average over the term os as
not to have a significantly higher fee in the first  year that
would otherwise be the case.

Based upon the scope of services described above, we propose to
perform the aforementioned services applicable to IFCSS's fiscal
years for the following respective fees:

                              Compilation and Tax
   One year
   Engagement     1993        $2,325
     
   Multiple Year  1993        $2,200
   Engagement     1994        $2,225
                  1995        $2,450
          
================================================
          Three Year
          Engagement Total    $6,675

The above quoted fees are based on anticipated hours by level of
personnel, with a discounted hourly rate from our standard hourly
rates per hour for the three year engagement since we are
desirous of having IFCSS as a client over at least the three year
term. The fee also assumes the scope of services or the structure
of the organization does not significantly change during the
first three year period. This implies that IFCSS would not be
subject to government auditing standards or OMB requirements.
Out-of-pocket expenses, which include travel, parking courier
services, copying, fax, etc., are billed as incurred and normally
are about 5% to 7% of professional fees.

The above fees are also based on the assumption that all
necessary information is made available to us during the
engagement(s) and that we receive maximum client assistance as
required. This would include typing of select confirmations if
deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required financial and tax
information, preparation of all bank reconciliations and
requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule, etc.

Receiving maximum assistance allows us to minimize costs to our
clients as well as to allow you to develop a better understanding
of the specific detail required to be obtained from your records
to support your financial statements and tax returns. We will
work with you in developing a client assistance list prior to
commencing field work and in reaching a mutually agreed upon
timetable for providing us the required information.

If you require special assistance during the engagements in
reconciling or analyzing accounts, or in completing the client
assistance workpapers, we would provide estimates and bill
separately for these services based on our standard hourly
consulting rates, which vary by level of personnel.

Specific accounting assistance or tax consultation outside the
scope of services as described above (for instance: Assistance
and/or preparation of journal entries, assistance with
depreciation lapse schedules, cash, receivable or payable
reconciliations, tax advice and consultation or dealings with the
IRS outside the realm of the  actual annual tax return
preparation) would also be billed at our standard hourly rates.

Other accounting services which may be needed by IFCSS would be
billed at our standard hourly rates. As mentioned earlier, these
rates vary depending upon job category and are typically adjusted
annually on February 1. For your information, our current hourly
rates are as follows:

          Job Categories           Hourly Rates
          --------------           ------------

          principal                $ 105 - $ 200
          Manager                     80 -   110
          Senior-Supervisor           50 -   100
          Staff                       40 -    80
          Paraprofessional            60 -    80

We would require an engagement agreement and letter of
understanding to be signed by IFCSS upon acceptance of our
proposal and before services would begin. The agreement could
include, but not be necessarily limited to, description of the
engagement, fees, conditions of payment, retainer requirements
(we  normally require a deposit form new clients prior to the
commencement of services up to one-half of the annual fee),
deadlines for reports, etc.

For your information, the attached Appendix A lists client
references, the majority of which are not-for-profit associations
comparable to IFCSS in terms of accounting and tax engagement
scope of  services. Additional references will be made available
upon request. We have made every effort to provide realistic fee
estimates, and if you have any questions regarding the details of
our proposed fees, please contact us as we would appreciate the
opportunity to discuss them with you to reach a mutually
agreeable fee arrangement.

In conclusion, we appreciate this opportunity to have been
solicited to respond to your request for proposal and to submit a
proposal to serve as your independent accountants. We are
confident that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the required
staff who are qualified through education, training and
experience, the necessary support resources, and the enthusiasm
to conduct the required compilations, consulting and tax services
in a satisfactory, timely and efficient manner. We welcome the
opportunity to work with the Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars and look forward to hearing from you. If
you have any questions or require additional information, please
feel free to contact me at 301/530-2200.


Very truly yours,

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, P.C.

By: Dan D'Agostino, CPA (signed)
    Principal
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Date:     January 3, 1994
To:       IFCSS Council and Finance Sub-committee
From:     IFCSS HQ
Subject:  IFCSS Account Changes

This is to notify you that the HQ has closed the IFCSS Inc
account. The account was used for the purpose of previous
lobbying efforts during the fourth term. As the 5th term HQ is no
longer engaged in such activities, the account became inactive
since July 1993. 

Should new lobbying need arise in the future, the HQ may re-
establish such account at times appropriate. 

The HQ also intends to set up a new account solely devoted to the
management of IFCSS medical insurance program.

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Cc: svc93@ifcss.org
Status: RO

Date:          January 5, 1994

From:          IFCSS HQ

Co-signed by:  Dong Liqun and Luo Lishi 

To:            Council members
               Supervisory Committee Members
               Working Committee Chairs
               Project Coordinators

Subject:       IFCSS Working Meeting

After discussions and coordinations between the HQ, Council,
Supervisory Committee, Working Committees and Project Directors,
it is decided that an IFCSS Working Meeting will be held during
February 5-6, 1994 in Washington DC. In order for the HQ to
arrange for the board and travel for the event, Please let the HQ
know whether or not you are able to attend before January 19,
1994.

Here are some more details about the Meeting:

1.   Time:

     a)   Arriving on February 4, 1994 (Friday)

     b)   Meeting During February 5-6, 1994 (Saturday-Sunday)

     c)   Leaving late on February 6, 1994 (Sunday)

2.   Place:    Washington D.C.

3.   Content (tentative):

     a)   IFCSS Working Meeting.

     b)   The Third-Quarter Council Meeting

4.   Participants include:

     a)   HQ staff.
     b)   Council Members
     c)   Supervisory Committee Members
     d)   Working Committee Chairs and Project Coordinators

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Subject: Guest parpicipants to IFCSS Working/Round Table Meeting
To: council-l@ifcss.org
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From: IFCSS Council Finance Committee
      Zhou Hongguang (signed)

To: Dong Liqun, Chair IFCSS Council
    DIng Yungui, Co-chair

Cc: IFCSS Council, HQ and SVC

RE: Guest participants to IFCSS Working/Round Table Meeting

Is the meeting a working meeting or round table meeting? What's the agenda?
If it's a traditional round table meeting or would-be only working meeting
of 5th IFCSS, it's also a tradition to invite some of the IFCSS veterans and
activisits to parpicipate. Because of their enthusastic volunteerism, valuable
contribution and positive, constructive involvements in IFCSS financial
affairs and other citical issues concerning IFCSS, the Finance Committee
strongly recommemds that the Council take the honor to invite Mr. Bai Yan
and Mr. Lou Ning to be the guest participants to such a meeting. Also since
Mr. Geng Xiao and Mr. Hou Junwei are in Washington, DC, the Finance
Committee would like to have them to attend the meeting.

Should you agree with such recommemdation, please send out formal
invitatin to those who are concerned at your earlist convenience.

Thank you for your attention.

> Subject:       IFCSS Working Meeting
> 
> After discussions and coordinations between the HQ, Council,
> Supervisory Committee, Working Committees and Project Directors,
> it is decided that an IFCSS Working Meeting will be held during
> February 5-6, 1994 in Washington DC. In order for the HQ to
> arrange for the board and travel for the event, Please let the HQ
> know whether or not you are able to attend before January 19,
> 1994.
> 
> Here are some more details about the Meeting:
> 
> 1.   Time:
> 
>      a)   Arriving on February 4, 1994 (Friday)
> 
>      b)   Meeting During February 5-6, 1994 (Saturday-Sunday)
> 
>      c)   Leaving late on February 6, 1994 (Sunday)
> 
> 2.   Place:    Washington D.C.
> 
> 3.   Content (tentative):
> 
>      a)   IFCSS Working Meeting.
> 
>      b)   The Third-Quarter Council Meeting
> 
> 4.   Participants include:
> 
>      a)   HQ staff.
>      b)   Council Members
>      c)   Supervisory Committee Members
>      d)   Working Committee Chairs and Project Coordinators
> 




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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 01:19:48 MST
From: Li-Shi Luo <luo@t13.lanl.gov>
To: dlq@u.washington.edu
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Subject: memo the each Council member


Dear Liqun,

It's nice talking to you through the phone.
Hopefully you had a happy holliday season.

Enclosed please find a memo to the each of
the Council Member regarding to the pending
appeals. Could you please make sure that
every one of them receive this memo. And, 
please let me know when you receive this
message.

Thank you very much for time and efforts in
working with us to complete this task.

With best regards.

Sincerely yours,
Li-Shi Luo
The SVC Coordinater

####################################################################

To:  	 The '93-'94 IFCSS Council
From:    The '93-'94 IFCSS SVC
Subject: Investigation on Recent Appeals
Date:	 Jan. 7th, 1994

Dear IFCSS Council Member: 

There are two appeals pending in the Supervisory Committee (SVC)
of IFCSS. The appeals were submitted to the SVC by Mr. Li,
Jinghong, an IFCSS activist and a former IFCSS Council member and
the IFCSS Headquarter (HQ), respectively.  They concern the
Council Finance Committee's recent financial inspection on IFCSS
Headquarter's financial management.

Upon deliberation among the SVC members, the SVC concluded that
some information is necessary in addressing the appeals. The SVC 
hereby requests that each and every one of the Council Members
provide answers to the following questions.  Please answer the
questions as accurately and as promptly as possible.  Your
answers will be considered by the SVC to the effect of sworn
statements.  If the SVC does not receive your answers by Jan. 15,
1994, the SVC will consider that you have given up the rights as
a Council member in the regard of the appeals, unless specific
reasons are given. Otherwise, we shall act on the information we 
obtained via other means. 

I. The participation of Mr. Yan Bai in the Financial Inspection
   Team of the Council: 
   1) Had the Council adopted any resolution with regard to 
      Mr. Yan Bai's membership of the Inspection Team? 
      If yes, then
   2) The council members who have voted on the resolution please 
      provide the SVC with the time and circumstances under which 
      the above said resolution, if it existed, was adopted.

II. If there had not been a resolution of the Council approving
    Mr. Bai's participation, then:
    1) How and when did Mr. Yan Bai get involved in the inspection 
       process? 
    2) Are you aware of his involvement?  
    3) Who nominated him and approved of his involvement? 
    4) Were there proper introduction of Mr. Bai to the Council 
       with regard to his background and qualifications for the 
       inspection process? 

III. There had been a memo from the Council regarding to the
     composition of the Inspection Team, dated Nov. 6th, 1993. 
     Would each and every one of the council members please indicate
     1) Were you aware of this memo before its release? 
     2) Was there a voting on such a memo?
     3) Had you approved its release? And
     4) Who released it and had the council authorized him/her to do so?

IV. Publicizing of the reports by the Inspection Team to public:
    1) Were you aware of the reports before its release?
    2) To your knowledge, has the Council approved the report? 
    3) Has the council approved the release of the report to the public? 
       If yes, please provide the voting records (how and when).  
    4) Who actually did the issuing of the report to the public? 

V. The Council Taskforce: On Dec. 5th, 1993, Mr. Yungui Ding,
   the Co-Chairman of the Council announced the organization of
   a taskforce, which was to be an extension of the Inspection Team.
     Did the Council adopted any resolution in support of this
     decision or authorize Mr. Ding to make such an announcement? 
     If yes, please provide the official records.

Please direct your replies via US mail to 

	Mr. Kening Li
	503-L Eagle Heights 
	Madison, WI 53705 
	
or via Email to 

	svc93@ifcss.org.
	
You will receive a hard copy of this letter by certified US mail
if you cannot be reached by e-mails.

Please acknowledge the reception of this message by e-mail if possible. 
Thank you very much for your time and efforts in working with us. 


Sincerely yours,

The Supervisory Committee 
IFCSS (signed by Kening Li)



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Dear colleagues:

I have some concerns about the SVC's questionair.

1. I think the SVC should judge whether the Council, Council members, or
   Council sub-comittees are working along the line of the IFCSS Constitution,
   the by-law and/or regulations.

   As for the work of the Council's Finance Working Committee,
   I think the work for the SVC to do is to judge whether the Committee's
   inviting Bai Yan to assit its work on financial inspection and 
   representing the Council in financial matters obeys the Council's
   rules and IFCSS' other rules.

   SVC is IN NO POSITION to get into the micro-operation of the Council
   or its committee.

   TO the former aspect, I would re-iterate my understanding that, according
   to the proper regulations, the Council's work committee has the right
   to act on behalf of the Council in its work. The Finance Committee 
   has the right to act on behalf of the Council in financial matters.

2. I protest the SVC's raising the question item VI in the questionair
   (about publicizing such and such). Whether the mentioned publicizing
   is right or wrong is another thing, but the SVC can only take 
   a case raised to its attention. As judge, one CANNOT prosecute at
   the same time.

   I have not seen anyone appealing on anyone on this matter.

   The SVC has gone cross the line!

3. As for the appeal on "Taskforce", again, I think the SVC is taking 
   the WRONG issue to deal. It is not a case the Council co-chair 
   announced whatever for the Council. Please check with the original
   message.

   I was asked by Mr Zhou Hongguang to act on behalf of him regarding
   the then ongoing issues which bore the nature of urgency while he
   and other members were busy with their final examinations. 
   Nothing was done in the name of the Council's co-chair or the
   else. I was basically reporting the progress of the Finance Committee,
   making their work and decision known to my colleagues in the Council,
   neither making any decisions for the Finance Committee, nor else's!

   I would be great to plant something upon someone's head and claim it is
   a crime he or she committed, isn't it?!

   First, what I have done is right or not so right, one can judge.
   I believe I went by the rules and have not done anything wrong in the
   issues concerned. But, still I believe justice, although it may not
   necessarily come from the ongoing investigation conducted by the
   SVC currently with so many false accusations (outrageous!).

4. I need to learn more about the procedure of the SVC's work.
   If I understand correctly, the SVC is playing judge. 
   Then my questions are:

   Can a judge be working on a case even before it is presented 
   before the court?? --That seems to be the situation in both the
   investigations of Bai Yan's participation and the so-called 
   publicizing issue, and more.

   I request the SVC to answer this question and do some investigation
   first, before it conducts the investigation on any other issues.


Yungui
Ding

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		An Open Letter to Council Members of IFCSS
	  and Chinese Students & Scholars (CSS) in the Community

From: 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
To:   5th IFCSS Copucil
      CSS Community
Date: Janurary 8, 1994

Dear IFCSS Council Members & CSS:

	The Finance Committee of IFCSS would like to bring your attention to
the IFCSS's financial situation and invite all of you to work with this 
Committee in searching answers to some missing funds in the IFCSS's accounting 
records. 

	As a result of auditing the Financial Statements prepared by 
Jiang Zuihong, the treasurer of IFCSS, the Inspection Team (IT) of the Finance 
Committee has noticed some alarming irregularities in the Financial Statements
of Fiscal Year 1992-93 and Fiscal Year 1993-94 (1st Quarter). This
includes, but not limited to, a huge amount of money left by the 4th IFCSS,
which is simply nowhere to be found in the accounting documents released to
the Inspection Team to this date. The IT, having been asking Jiang Zuihong
about the whereabouts of the money for a number of times, has not received any
direct and satisfactory reply. According to Jiang Zuihong, these monetary
differences stem from an unusual accounting format she had been using.
However, three months have passed, IT and this Committee have not seen any
willingness on the part of the IFCSS HQ to straighten up these differences,
either with the old format or any other format. More important, no matter
what format is used, revenues and expenditures must be balanced and
matched. But this seems not the case of the IFCSS accounting books.

	To ensure the IFCSS's financial assets to be kept in the best interest
of the organization and the community of the Chinese students and  scholars, 
the Finance Committee is fulfilling its duty of accountability to appeal to 
public concern and present the matter under public scrutiny. We hope all of 
you read and think over the following questions, and we look forward to your 
positive cooperation.

1. Where is $5,030.00?
	The surplus of the last term (4th) of IFCSS indicates $74,530. This 
amount of money as remaining fund from Fiscal Year 1992-93 should be carried 
over to this term (5th) with no alteration. But, in the Annual Budget for 
Fiscal Year 1993-94, the remaining fund from last term was changed to $69,500. 
The difference is $5,030.00. Now where is this $5,030.00? Please be adviced
that this $69,500 is not even mentioned at all in the Financial Statement for 
Fiscal Year 1993-94 (1st Quarter). It means that all remaining fund is taken 
away. But, where? By whom?

2. Where is the profit of CSPA--$144,439.88?
	It is well known that $50.00 processing fee was charged for
obtaining the information related to CSPA implementation and forms
such as I-845. But, do you know that total amount of of $207,798 was
submitted by the CSPA benificiaries? Deducting all DIRECT operational
expenses of CSPA Information Center, which is, according to Jiang Zuihong,
$63,278.12 (Note: the Finance Committee has not yet found the invoices &
receipts for these expenses), IFCSS of last term made a net revenue
of $144,439.88. 

	Where is this amount of $144,439.88, at least part of which 
could be used permenat foundation by IFCSS for servicing the CSS community
in USA in the years to come? Jiang Zuihong claimed that this amount was
transfered to the general fund and spent for routine operation in 
the same year. As you may recall, CSPA revenue did not realize until May & 
June, and the 5th IFCSS was not elected until July, 1993. Can you believe 
$144,439.88 was all spent in such a short time period between June 
and July? If all spent, what were they spent for? Please remember there is no 
reporting in the Financial Statements about whether they were spent or not? If 
not spent then, were they carried over to the present IFCSS? No, not a single 
penny is reflected in the Financial Statements. Again, where is $144,439.88?

3. Where is $80,000.01? 
	A huge difference in the Income Statement lies between revenues of 
$472,289 as Beginning Fund Balance of Fiscal Year 1992-93 and Excess Revenue 
of $74,530 as End Fund Balance. This means the total expenditure was $397,759. 
Did IFCSS really spend $397,759 within one year? Again, if so, what for? With 
this question in mind, the Inspection Team counted all the acutal expenses 
(not with invoives yet) and found out that the number of $397,759 is not 
factual, and is created by adding some expenses never incurred. The correct 
one for actual expenses is $317,758, after our careful counting. 

	Now the difference is $80,000.01. Where is $80,000.01? Please note 
this amount of $80,000.01 may be overlapped in part with $144,439.88 as 
afore-mentioned. Therefore, the answer to this question depends on how the 
second one is responded to. However, this third question still remains.

	The Finance Committee and IT deem that they have being done their 
best to implement the IFCSS Council Resolution to audit the IFCSS HQ financial
records and it is the time to let all the Council members and CSS
community know the problems and questions they have discovered and
encountered. We hope that with the attention of all the Council Members and
general CSS we would improve the financial operation of IFCSS and
thus consolidate the credibility and foundation of IFCSS for its
real name

	Thanks you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,

IFCSS Council
Finance Committee




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I am not talking about wether it is appropriate for Council Finance Committee
to release letter to the CSS without notifying (not even consent from) other council
members. I am not going to comment wether the open letter included all the facts that
(or, are they facts ?) Finance Committee knows for the related matter.

	I just want to state two points (especially for ccf and cnd editors),

    1. Council Finance Committee is elected by and responsible for Council and
       Council only. It is not the speaker of council.
    2. chair@ifcss.org is an account of council "working and archieving site, and for 
       maintenance" of council files. It is not appropriate to use this account
       releasing such a leter. And definitely it represents no more authority than
       a normal email account.

Also, please notice that before any formal conclusion from Council (even the
Inspection Team) been reached, all the discussions posted, expressed only represent
that of the person him/her self. All the materials might be immature and incomplete.

Dong Chen
Chair of Rule Committee
IFCSS Council


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    My Comments on the Open Letter of the IFCSS Council "Finace Committee"


	The Council "Finance Committee"'s open letter created probably
the biggest news of the IFCSS community in the whole IFCSS history. The 
reason that I put the Finance Committee into quotation marks is that I 
seriously doubt it was really from the whole committee. If it is not, this 
deserves a full investigation of the SVC because it is ablsolutely Dao4 Shi4 
Qi1 Min2 if someone steals the name of the committee for such a serious
open letter; however, let's assume that it is indeed from the whole 
committee, then I have the following comments. 

	1. The $5,030.0 missing balance from the last term.

	The "committee" did not elaborate where it got the balance of $74,530
from the last term, especially, $74,530 is as of WHAT date. On the other 
hand, the quoted $69,500 is again as of WHAT date? The IFCSS money is 
constantly flowing in and out. If the "committee" is responsible, why did it 
not tell us those dates? Can the "committee", as serious as it sounds, give 
us the dates of the said two figures in above? Please don't ask me to ask the 
IFCSS HQ. I am not interested in how you fight with the HQ because that is 
your business, but rather just demanding a fair description. If you give us 
two numbers of this nature that are not connected to each other at the same 
time point, they do not make sense at all, or you are simply
discrediting yourself for the seriousness you tried to convince people. If 
the two figures were not from the same time point, did the committee do its
home work to figure out how many reimbersements were claimed during the
period? On the other hand, it was probably a question to the IFCSS treasure
regarding how to ditinguish the expenditure of the last term from that of
the current term during the transition period; however, this is rather a
problem of management/technical type, if one is fair enough. But, how the
"committee" treated this problem? It claimed "It means that all remaining 
fund is taken away. But, where? By whom?". This is the most irresponsible 
claim that I have ever seen. If the "committee" has any knowledge about 
OBJECTIVENESS as it should because of its degree of "professionalization" as 
it claimed to have, it should know how to avoid using its own imagination and 
speculation when making public announcements. If you are confident, the 
public is probably smarter than you to figure out what happened as long as 
you provide the facts you know to the best of your knowledge. Any smart 
committee would know how to avoid getting itself into trouble for "stepping
one step further from the 'truth'". But unfortunately, this "committee"
does not seem to care. I really would like to suggest the "committee" get 
some ABC's on how to make a credible news release by at least watching CSPAN 
to learn how the US Congress subcommittees do.  

	2. The missing $144,439.88 of the CSPA money.

	This is really a shocking piece of news! For that amount of money, 
the corrupted party would be sentenced to death even under the CCP.
But, wait a minute. It seems that the "committee" believes that the 
remaining balance of $74,530 (see above) from the last term is true, which 
is the balance of the last term counting EVERY thing, including donation,
service income, CSPA income, and so on. If the last term balance in total 
is $74,530, which again seems to be the reference point the "committee" is 
willing to base on, that means indeed that the CSPA net income of 
$144,439.88 were transferred to the IFCSS routine or some other operation.
Whether it should be and how is another matter subjecting to discussion,
but, to separate this amount, on one hand, from the whole operation of the 
IFCSS, and, on the other hand, to use a $74,530 balance as the base is just 
an immaginable thing to do. It really makes me ask this question: why did
the "committee" want to give itself such an obvious hole? -- the total 
balance of $74,530 simply could not generate a missing $144,439.88.

	Maybe, the "commitee" wanted to say: "No, we do not even trust the 
$74,530 balance from the last term. It should have left much much more to
us." Fine, did the committee check into how the $144,439.88 was transferred
to the IFCSS general fund? The "committee" may blame the HQ of not 
cooperating with it so that it could not get the details of the transaction
of the CSPA money to the general operation account. Fine again, why did not 
the "committee" appeal to the SVC to force the HQ to cooperate, which is the
most proper channel for such a problem? From the existing messages on 
various nets, we know that the inspection effort of the "committee" was
disturbed from the very beginning because of the dispute on whether some
third party's involvement was legitimate, which is under the investigation
of the SVC. If I am correct, this unsolved problem caused the initial 
roughness from the HQ side. No matter what, could the "committee" commit
itself more to dig out the real problem, if any, of the CSPA money before
making such a misleading announcement that was not self-consistent?

	Also and again, I suggest the "committee" make an effort in the
future to match its language with its honorable identity when making public 
announcement like this one. The language such as "Can you believe 
$144,439.88 was all spent in such a short time period between June and 
July?" really makes people wonder if its from a personal arguement rather
than a committee of a national organization. Please think about it for
the sake of the reputation of the committee. By the way, if the "committee"
agrees to that the CSPA money could be tranferred to the general operation,
then it could naturally be used to pay back the possible negative balances 
before the CSPA money came in. To imply that $144,439.88 could not be used
between June and July was again misleading.
	
	3. The missing $80,000.01

	Another number for a life, if not death, sentence! However, the
"commitee" admitted "this amount of $80,000.01 may be overlapped in part 
with $144,439.88 as afore-mentioned. Therefore, the answer to this question
depends on how the sencond one is responded to.", although it claims 
"However, this third question still remains." I would suggest the 
"committee" go back to solve the problem in the sencond question first,
which was largely misleading already. Before you get that done, no matter 
how you are "however"ing, it does not convince the others, but rather force
them to give you a low score to your homework.

	4. Some general comments

	The IFCSS finance management should definitely be improved. I hope
all the parties involved in would cooperate with each other strictly 
following the rules of the IFCSS. In case of disputes, the SVC is the right
place to go for justice. Also, the officials of the IFCSS should probably 
be reminded of their responsibilities. Most of you are elected by the 
general CSS. You shoulder serious responsibilities, especially, the various 
committees of the Council and the HQ are serious places to "play". No one
should abuse his/her power by making public announcements that do not
match the should-be professionalized committees based on his/her own 
extrapolation. I hope our officials will remember this as long as they are at 
those positions.  


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   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
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Please forward to council-l

Thanks

Jinghong

 .........................................................................



       The 3rd Appeal to SVC - on Council Finance Committee Open Letter


To:    IFCSS SVC
From:  Jinghong Li, U of Dayton
Date:  Jan 9, 1994
CC:    IFCSS Council, HQ, IFCSSVC and public nets

Sub:   Appeal on the "Open Letter" in the name of Council Finance Committee 


Honorable IFCSS SVC Members,

This is to appeal on a "Open Letter" in the name of Council Finance Committee 
posted on Jan 8, 1994 (see attached orginal).

I have noticed several people have posted both to public and SVC net in 
this regard.  This post to you is to make the Appeal to SVC formal and legal.

 
                    This "Open Letter" Is Illegal

As defined by the IFCSS Consitution, a sub-committee of the Council is 
authorized to work as an arm of the Council on specific issues and is 
held responsible to the entire Council.  All of its findings and conclusions
are subject to the Council's review and approval.  While each Council
members as individial can issue statement, letters and so on to the 
public, sub-committees as a body of IFCSS has no right what-so-ever to 
make final conclusions on any issue, let alone release "Open Letters" 
to the public.  The said action thus constitute a serious violation of 
the IFCSS Constitution, Council Bylaw and basic organizational ethical
standards.  

The IFCSS SVC therefore is asked to:

1.  Declare the said "open letter" illegal;

2.  Investigate that who released it to the public, and discipline the 
    responsible person(s).

3.  Investigate that who authorized the use of Council work account
    "chair@ifcss.org" for such activity, and discipline the responsible
    person(s).

4.  Investigate that whether or not Council leaderships aware of the 
    said "open letter" prior to its release.

5.  Investigate that whether or not the IFCSS Council aware of the said
    "open letter" prior to its release.

6.  Clarify that any damages to IFCSS due to the said "open letter" will
    be charged against the responsible person(s).

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attached original post - 
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        cnd-us@ifcss.org, ifcsss@ifcss.org, ifcssvc@ifcss.org
Status: RO

		An Open Letter to Council Members of IFCSS
	  and Chinese Students & Scholars (CSS) in the Community

From: 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
To:   5th IFCSS Copucil
      CSS Community
Date: Janurary 8, 1994

Dear IFCSS Council Members & CSS:

	The Finance Committee of IFCSS would like to bring your attention to
the IFCSS's financial situation and invite all of you to work with this 
Committee in searching answers to some missing funds in the IFCSS's accounting 
records. 

	As a result of auditing the Financial Statements prepared by 
Jiang Zuihong, the treasurer of IFCSS, the Inspection Team (IT) of the Finance 
Committee has noticed some alarming irregularities in the Financial Statements
of Fiscal Year 1992-93 and Fiscal Year 1993-94 (1st Quarter). This
includes, but not limited to, a huge amount of money left by the 4th IFCSS,
which is simply nowhere to be found in the accounting documents released to
the Inspection Team to this date. The IT, having been asking Jiang Zuihong
about the whereabouts of the money for a number of times, has not received any
direct and satisfactory reply. According to Jiang Zuihong, these monetary
differences stem from an unusual accounting format she had been using.
However, three months have passed, IT and this Committee have not seen any
willingness on the part of the IFCSS HQ to straighten up these differences,
either with the old format or any other format. More important, no matter
what format is used, revenues and expenditures must be balanced and
matched. But this seems not the case of the IFCSS accounting books.

	To ensure the IFCSS's financial assets to be kept in the best interest
of the organization and the community of the Chinese students and  scholars, 
the Finance Committee is fulfilling its duty of accountability to appeal to 
public concern and present the matter under public scrutiny. We hope all of 
you read and think over the following questions, and we look forward to your 
positive cooperation.

1. Where is $5,030.00?
	The surplus of the last term (4th) of IFCSS indicates $74,530. This 
amount of money as remaining fund from Fiscal Year 1992-93 should be carried 
over to this term (5th) with no alteration. But, in the Annual Budget for 
Fiscal Year 1993-94, the remaining fund from last term was changed to $69,500. 
The difference is $5,030.00. Now where is this $5,030.00? Please be adviced
that this $69,500 is not even mentioned at all in the Financial Statement for 
Fiscal Year 1993-94 (1st Quarter). It means that all remaining fund is taken 
away. But, where? By whom?

2. Where is the profit of CSPA--$144,439.88?
	It is well known that $50.00 processing fee was charged for
obtaining the information related to CSPA implementation and forms
such as I-845. But, do you know that total amount of of $207,798 was
submitted by the CSPA benificiaries? Deducting all DIRECT operational
expenses of CSPA Information Center, which is, according to Jiang Zuihong,
$63,278.12 (Note: the Finance Committee has not yet found the invoices &
receipts for these expenses), IFCSS of last term made a net revenue
of $144,439.88. 

	Where is this amount of $144,439.88, at least part of which 
could be used permenat foundation by IFCSS for servicing the CSS community
in USA in the years to come? Jiang Zuihong claimed that this amount was
transfered to the general fund and spent for routine operation in 
the same year. As you may recall, CSPA revenue did not realize until May & 
June, and the 5th IFCSS was not elected until July, 1993. Can you believe 
$144,439.88 was all spent in such a short time period between June 
and July? If all spent, what were they spent for? Please remember there is no 
reporting in the Financial Statements about whether they were spent or not? If 
not spent then, were they carried over to the present IFCSS? No, not a single 
penny is reflected in the Financial Statements. Again, where is $144,439.88?

3. Where is $80,000.01? 
	A huge difference in the Income Statement lies between revenues of 
$472,289 as Beginning Fund Balance of Fiscal Year 1992-93 and Excess Revenue 
of $74,530 as End Fund Balance. This means the total expenditure was $397,759. 
Did IFCSS really spend $397,759 within one year? Again, if so, what for? With 
this question in mind, the Inspection Team counted all the acutal expenses 
(not with invoives yet) and found out that the number of $397,759 is not 
factual, and is created by adding some expenses never incurred. The correct 
one for actual expenses is $317,758, after our careful counting. 

	Now the difference is $80,000.01. Where is $80,000.01? Please note 
this amount of $80,000.01 may be overlapped in part with $144,439.88 as 
afore-mentioned. Therefore, the answer to this question depends on how the 
second one is responded to. However, this third question still remains.

	The Finance Committee and IT deem that they have being done their 
best to implement the IFCSS Council Resolution to audit the IFCSS HQ financial
records and it is the time to let all the Council members and CSS
community know the problems and questions they have discovered and
encountered. We hope that with the attention of all the Council Members and
general CSS we would improve the financial operation of IFCSS and
thus consolidate the credibility and foundation of IFCSS for its
real name

	Thanks you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,

IFCSS Council
Finance Committee



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DATE:     January 10, 1994
TO:       IFCSS Council and SVC
FROM:     IFCSS HQ
SUBJECT:  Recommendation On the CPA Bidding To Professionalize
          the IFCSS Accounting System        

Since forwarding the four CPA proposals for the bid to
professionalize the IFCSS accounting system, we have received
many responses and enquiries from members of the Council and SVC.

Based upon the following three criteria:

1.   The professional reputation and experience;
2.   That the firm's proposed service and business profile
closely fit the need of IFCSS as a non-profit organization within
the CSS community;
3.   The cost;

the IFCSS HQ recommends that Jeff W.S. Lin proceed to take up the
task of helping professionalizing the IFCSS accounting system,
which includes (though not limited to):

1.   Compiling all IFCSS financial transactions and records since
and including last term (the fourth term) in accordance with
Statements on Standards for Accounting and Review Services
regarding non-profit organizations issued by the American
Institute of Certified Public Accountants;

2.   Providing Evaluation Report on the general conditions of the
IFCSS accounting system, and on any possible material errors,
irregularities or illegal acts;

3.   Making policy suggestions on IFCSS accounting format,
control and management to promote professionalization.

Here are some of the considerations that lead to our
recommendation:

Mr. Jeff W.S. Lin is a well-established CPA in the DC area. His
company has an efficient staff and a business profile that
closely fit the need of the IFCSS. This is clearly reflected in
his proposal, which we think is the best among the four. Not only
his clients are mostly non-profit organizations like IFCSS, the
National Endowment For Democracy (NED) has hired his company to
conduct external auditings to organizations receiving NED funds.
The quality of his company's professional service is well
recognized in the community here. The company will charge a flat
fee of $2,600 (in two installments) for the service.

Myint & Buntua and Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC are also
well recognized CPA firms in the DC area. Both of them have
strong background in non-profit organizations. However, their
charged fees may be higher than we can afford. Both companies
declined to give a flat fee for the service, but provided
estimated fees ($2,720 by Myint & Buntua and $2,325 by Cohen
Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). If they need to work beyond the
estimated hours, additional fees will be billed at a hourly rate
($80 per additional hour by Myint $ Buntua and $105-200 per
additional hour by Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). Some of
the service (for instance, making control and policy suggestions,
setting formatting procedures) may not be included in the
estimate, and therefore may incur unpredictable hourly fees to
complete.

Terry T. Fang, a CPA entrepreneur, asked a flat fee of $800 for
the service proposed, which is the most economical among the
four. However, his business profile, experience, background and
supporting staff are not as strong as the other three firms.
During the interview with the HQ, he asked far fewer questions
than the other three CPAs regarding the IFCSS accounting. We are
not sure that he fully appreciates the complexity of the IFCSS's
multi-aspects of financial activities. And he is unable to
impress us with the kind of quality service that will satisfy the
IFCSS needs. 

The above is our opinion, and you are encouraged to make further
inquiries either to the HQ or to the CPAs directly. As we expect
the designated CPA to complete the aforementioned three tasks
before the Feb 5-6 Working Meeting in DC, we urge the Council to
adopt a resolution of designation as soon as possible. However,
if the Council is unable to reach a vote or verdict by January
14th, the HQ will proceed as this memo has recommended while
continuing to seek the Council's endorsement.

We will arrange to have the designated CPA to meet with each of
you when you come to DC, and to present to the Council and SVC
the re-compiled IFCSS accounts along with evaluation report and
policy suggestions over IFCSS accounting control, format and
management. The HQ is confident that together we may further
reform and refine our accounting system towards greater
professionalization and accountability. 
 
Again, we have attached the four CPAs' original proposals for
your reference. Thank you.

*****************************************************************

                        PROPOSAL BY MYINT & BUNTUA
                       Certified Public Accountants
                       5203 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300
                          Falls Church, VA 22041
                            Tel:  (703)845-1555

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Lin Changsheng,

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

we will perform the following services:

I.   Compilation

     we will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheet and the related statements of revenue,
     expenses, fund balances, and cash flows of IFCSS for the
     year ended June 30, 1993. We will not audit or review such
     financial statements. Our report on the annual financial
     statements of IFCSS is presently expected to read as
     follows:

          We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of
          IFCSS, and the related statements of revenue, expenses,
          fund balances and cash flows for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. We have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

Your bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and
any supporting schedules we require.

II.  Federal and State Tax Returns

     We will also prepare the federal tax return 990 for IFCSS
     for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, we will in form you of any material
errors that come to our attention and any irregularities or
illegal acts that come to our attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

     For items I and II, we estimate our fee to be $1,630.

III. Limited Review of Accounting Systems and Procedures

     We will review your current accounting system, procedures
     and administrative controls. We will report on our review
     and provide you with our recommendations.

     Our fee for Item III will be based on the number of hours
     and the staff positions of the individuals assigned. Based
     on our survey, we estimate that we will incur the following:

          Classification           Hours          Amount

          Partner                   2             $  190

          Senior                   20             $  900
                                                  -------
                                                  $1,090

We shall be pleased to discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.

                                   Sincerely,

                                   Ellen Myint, CPA
                                   Partner

*****************************************************************


Terry T. Fang
Certified Public Accountant
3328 Monarch Lane
Annandale, VA 22003
(703)560-4520

December 22, 1993

Mr. Changsheng Lin
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, N.W. Suite 440
Washington, D.C. 20005

Dear Mr. Lin:

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

1.   We will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheets and related statements of income, retained
earnings, and cash flow of Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars (IFCSS) for the year ended September 30,
1993. We will not audit or review such financial statements. Our
report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is presently
expected to read as follows:

     "We have compile the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS as
of September 30, 1993, and the related statements of income,
retained earnings, and cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with statements on Standards for Accounting and Review
Services issued by the American Institute of Certified Public
Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
financial statement information this is the representation of
management. We have not audited or reviewed the accompanying
financial statements and, accordingly, do not express an opinion
or any other form of assurance on them."

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation or
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   We will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
account so that he/she will be able to prepare a working trial
balance from which financial statements can be compiled. Your
bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and any
supporting schedules we require.

3.   We will evaluate your current internal control and
accounting system, and make suggestions as necessary.

4.   We will also prepare the federal and state information
returns and income tax returns, if required, for IFCSS for the
fiscal year ended September 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors and
irregularities, including fraud or defalcations, that may exist.
However, we will inform you of irregularities that come to our
attention, unless they are inconsequential.

Our fee for these services is $800.00. We shall be pleased to
discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.


Sincerely yours,



-----------------------
Terry T. Fang, CPA







Acknowledgment:
Independent Federation of 
Chinese Students and Scholars




-----------------------
President



------------
Date


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                         PROPOSAL BY JEFF W.S. LIN
                        Certified Public Accountant
                      414 Hungerford Drive, Suite 236
                            Rockville, MD 20850
                  Tel: (301)762-0479   Fax: (301)309-0479

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington D.C. 20005

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of my engagement and the nature and limitations of the
services I will provide.

I will perform the following services:

1.   I will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheets and the related statements of income and
     retained earnings, of IFCSS for the year ended June 30,
     1993. I will not audit or review such financial statements.
     My report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is
     presently expected to read as follows:

          I have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS
          as of June 30, 1993, and the related statements of
          income and retained earnings, for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          Accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. I have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters.

If, for any reason, I am unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, I will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   I will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
     accounts so that she will be able to prepare a working trial
     balance from which financial statements can be compiled.
     Your bookkeeper will provide me with a detailed trial
     balance and any supporting schedules I require.

3.   I will also prepare the federal and state income tax returns
     for IFCSS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

My engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, I will inform you of any material errors
that may come to my attention and any irregularities or illegal
acts that come to my attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

My fee for the above services will be a flat fee of $1500.00.

Furthermore, I will conduct a study of the internal control
structure of IFCSS and report the results thereof to you. This
study requires the cooperation from all personnel within the
organization. Again, I will not conduct the audit or review of
the IFCSS's financial statements. The fee for this service will
be $700.00.

At your request, I will also draft up an accounting policy manual
which will be based on my internal control study to spell out the
detail control procedures, the control environment and the
accounting system. The fee for this service will be $400.00.

Based on the conversation we had and the prior engagement I had
with your firm, I firmly believe that the above three (3)
services will enable your organization to run the business in a
more efficient and professional manner and to serve the overseas
Chinese students and scholars most effectively.

Should you have any questions with regard to any of the
aforementioned proposals please do not hesitate to call me.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
along with a check in the amount of $1300.00 (one half of total
fee) to me at your earliest convenience.

                              Sincerely,


                              Jeff W. S. Lin, CPA (signed)



Acknowledged:  
IFCSS

_________________________
President      

_________________________
Date


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PROPOSAL TO SERVE INDEPENDENT FEDERATION OF CHINESE
STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS

December 27, 1993

COHEN
RUTHERFORD
BLUM&SCHOTT,PC
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

6903 Rockledge Dr. Suite 1330
Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800
Telephone 301-530-2200
Telefax   301-530-3625


December 27,1993

Mr. Xiaozhu Liu
Executive Director
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, NW, Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Liu:

We are pleased to present our proposal to serve the Independent
of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS) as your independent
accountants and business advisors, and we appreciate the
opportunity to have been called upon to respond to your request
for proposal (REP) per our meeting of December 22, 1993. As this
proposal will demonstrate, we are interested in serving IFCSS,
and as an important client of our firm, you can be sure of our
commitment to provide timely, quality services.

Based on our meeting, it is apparent that your management style
coincides with our philosophy concerning client service. As
mentioned to you, member of our firm pride themselves as more
than a "once a year visitor" and can and will respond quickly to
all of your accounting and financial needs. We are interested in
providing advice that will help you make proper business
decisions to effectively and efficiently operate IFCSS. Only with
proper information, obtained on a timely basis, can management be
effective in its role and in maintaining its fiduciary
responsibility in overseeing the operations of IFCSS. I believe
it is important to you and IFCSS to have a full service firm
being integrally involved with your operation. especially as you
expand our operations in fulfilling your mission and purpose in
accordance with your Articles of Incorporation.

Our proposal is structured to emphasize the importance we place
on client service and the service we would deliver to IFCSS, and
to affirm the commitment of our people who will work with you.
IFCSS should expect more than an efficient and quality
compilation from its independent accountants and our philosophy
of client service parallels that expectation. We are confident
that after reviewing our proposal, you will agree that Cohen,
Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the desire and resources to deliver
the level of services required by IFCSS.

FIRM BACKGROUND

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott is a certified public accounting
firm which was formed in the fall of 1980. We have a professional
staff of approximately 25 full-time employees, and our main
office is located at Two Democracy Center, 6903 Rockledge Drive,
Suite 1330, Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800. We currently provide
annual audit, tax, and consulting services to a wide variety of
clients, a significant portion of which are not-for-profit
organizations and associations. In addition to performing audit
and consulting services, our firm provides tax and financial
planning services, accounting assistance, and a wide range of
management advisory consulting services. We are very confident
that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the means, experience,
and expertise to provide the needed services to meet the
requirements of IFCSS.

Because not-for-profit organizations represent a significant
portion of our current clientele, we have kept abreast of all
significant audit and tax changes and proposals affecting the
industry. Since we are involved with the sizable association
network within the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area, we are
very familiar with the unique characteristics of fund accounting
and other relevant aspects affecting accounting, cost
allocations, finance, and administration of these types of
organizations. Several of our current audit clients' operations
would appear to be comparable to IFCSS's, whose revenue,
membership structure and programs are similar to your
organization's.

Our clientele includes organizations who receive, as either
direct recipients or subrecipients, federal assistance of varying
amounts. We are therefore familiar with the government audit
procedures and reporting mechanisms for compliance under the
applicable Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Circulars, if
IFCSS were subject to federal funding requiring an audit.

We have also had principals of the firm volunteer their services
as technical advisors to certain committees or boards of our
clients, as well as serving as board members for nonclients.
Members of our firm have been active participants in chambers of
commerce, the American Society of Association Executives, the
Greater Washington Society of Association Executives, and
numerous other trade associations. We would also like to mention
that our firm underwent a quality review in 1993 performed by an
external, independent accounting firm, the results of which were
very positive and an unmodified report was issued. We are
dedicated to providing the best and broadest professional
services to our clients by utilizing our expertise and knowledge
through a well defined and thoroughly planned work approach and
communication mechanism.

Our firm has also assisted our clients in compensation analysis,
ballot counts, write-up services, preparation of operating and
capital budgets, W-2 and 1099 preparation, staffing analysis,
assessment of computer needs and development of requests for
information and requests for proposals for management information
systems, as well as other areas. We are sure that our experience
and resources can be applied to IFCSS's operations as needed
which may prove to be beneficial to your organization.

SCOPE OF SERVICES AND TIMING

It is our understanding that the scope of services desired by
IFCSS would include a compilation of the accrual basis financial
statements (balance sheet, statements of revenue and expense and
fund balance, and cash flows) as of June 30, 1993 and for the
year then ended, and possibly also future fiscal periods;
preparation of the 1993 annual tax returns (federal Forms 990 and
990T); and various accounting and consulting services as
discussed via the RFP and further outlined below. As mentioned
previously, we confident that we have the resources, expertise,
and the experience to provide quality services essential to meet
your requirements.

A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of financial
statements information that is the representation of management.
You also requested that the compilation includes footnote
disclosures. We will not audit or review such financial
statements. Our report on the annual financial statements of the
Federation is presently expected to read as follows:

     We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet        
     of the Independent Federation of Chinese Students 
     and Scholars as the June 30, 1993, and the related     
statements of  income and expenses and changed in 
     fund balance, cash flows for the year then ended, in   
accordance with standards established by the American  Institute
of Certified Public Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form 
     of financial statements information that is the   
representation of management. We have not audited to   reviewed
the accompanying financial statements and    accordingly, do not
express and opinion or any other 
     form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement. At the conclusion of
compilation procedures, we would request certain written
representations from management about your financial statements
and matters related thereto. Our compilation is subject to the
inherent risk that material errors, irregularities, or illegal
acts, including fraud or defalcations, if they exist, would not
be detected. However, we would inform you of any such matters
that come to our attention.

We will actively work with management to anticipate change rather
than merely react to change. We will follow a policy that demands
planning, coordination, and continual communications with key
management personnel of IFCSS, conducting our work at the highest
level of quality at a reasonable cost. Using this approach, IFCSS
will benefit from our wide range of expertise and experience, and
we can be made aware on a timely basis of your needs, problems,
and concerns.

Our services will begin be meeting with you and other key
personnel to thoroughly plan the engagement, develop the client
assistance list, and become familiar with your systems and
procedures. We will utilize to the greatest extent possible
financial and statistical information, workpapers and reports
prepared by you and your personnel and will coordinated our work
with them.

Also, we would prepare and deliver to management a report, after
discussing it with management, which summarizes realistic
recommendations for improving the effectiveness of IFCSS's
accounting, administrative, and operational controls and
procedures, based on our observations and select inquiries of
IFCSS management. However, we will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS, as such a review and evaluation is
not within the scope of this engagement.

The specific timing of the compilation procedures would be worked
out with management based on an agreed-upon schedule. It is
anticipated that the work conducted on-site would not exceed more
than two to three days, and most likely could be achieved within
this period assuming the accounting records are in order and the
client assistance schedule is accurately and thoroughly
completed.

Control Over IFCSS Engagement

The success of any professional engagement depends primarily on
the dedication and abilities of the assigned executives, the
relationships they build with our client's management and staff,
and the selection of the overall audit and consulting team
assigned to the engagement. We believe that we can provide a team
of individuals with the qualities necessary to appropriately and
effectively serve IFCSS as its independent accountants, tax
preparers, and business advisors.

Dan D'Agostino, a principal of the firm, will be the assigned
executive for the engagement. He will be responsible for ensuring
effective planning and staffing, timely performance, continuing
communications, the resolution of questions and potential
problems, and quality control. He will be assisted by a staff
member, most likely Jing Chen who met you at the meeting last
week. Dan has over 19 years experience as a business consultant,
predominantly conducting and managing audit and accounting
engagements as well as numerous and various management advisory
consulting services.

Dan and/or other members of the firm as deemed appropriate will
meet with management during the year to discuss matters affecting
IFCSS as needed to bring important issues to your attention. And,
if any matters requiring assistance do arise during the year, the
executive will have our firm respond quickly and with experienced
personnel. 

Elliot Blum is a principal responsible for the firms' tax
practice and he will coordinate the tax services to IFCSS. In
this role he will have the responsibility for ensuring timely 
and complete preparation of the tax returns (Federal Forms 990
and 990T), and will ensure that ample time is allotted to review
all tax returns with you in advance of the filing dates. He will
be assisted by members of the firm's tax division, who will also
be available to respond to tax questions or issues and provide
tax planning as the need arises.

Our firm also has two full-time consultants who are solely
dedicated to management information systems and are very
knowledgeable of computer programming, applications and operating
systems. Other consultants of the firm as involved with numerous
other consulting activities. We will draw upon their expertise as
deemed necessary throughout the audit engagement, and in other
services that may be needed and requested by IFCSS throughout the
fiscal period.

PROFESSIONAL FEES AND EXPENSES

As mentioned during our meeting, we would prefer to have IFCSS as
a client over a long term, and since we want to develop a
positive client relationship with IFCSS that we believe would be
mutually rewarding, we have taken the liberty to present a fee
arrangement for not only the 1993 fiscal period, but also for
1994 and 1995. You will note that the fees for the three year
engagement are thus discounted, and average over the term os as
not to have a significantly higher fee in the first  year that
would otherwise be the case.

Based upon the scope of services described above, we propose to
perform the aforementioned services applicable to IFCSS's fiscal
years for the following respective fees:

                              Compilation and Tax
   One year
   Engagement     1993        $2,325
     
   Multiple Year  1993        $2,200
   Engagement     1994        $2,225
                  1995        $2,450
          
================================================
          Three Year
          Engagement Total    $6,675

The above quoted fees are based on anticipated hours by level of
personnel, with a discounted hourly rate from our standard hourly
rates per hour for the three year engagement since we are
desirous of having IFCSS as a client over at least the three year
term. The fee also assumes the scope of services or the structure
of the organization does not significantly change during the
first three year period. This implies that IFCSS would not be
subject to government auditing standards or OMB requirements.
Out-of-pocket expenses, which include travel, parking courier
services, copying, fax, etc., are billed as incurred and normally
are about 5% to 7% of professional fees.

The above fees are also based on the assumption that all
necessary information is made available to us during the
engagement(s) and that we receive maximum client assistance as
required. This would include typing of select confirmations if
deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required financial and tax
information, preparation of all bank reconciliations and
requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule, etc.

Receiving maximum assistance allows us to minimize costs to our
clients as well as to allow you to develop a better understanding
of the specific detail required to be obtained from your records
to support your financial statements and tax returns. We will
work with you in developing a client assistance list prior to
commencing field work and in reaching a mutually agreed upon
timetable for providing us the required information.

If you require special assistance during the engagements in
reconciling or analyzing accounts, or in completing the client
assistance workpapers, we would provide estimates and bill
separately for these services based on our standard hourly
consulting rates, which vary by level of personnel.

Specific accounting assistance or tax consultation outside the
scope of services as described above (for instance: Assistance
and/or preparation of journal entries, assistance with
depreciation lapse schedules, cash, receivable or payable
reconciliations, tax advice and consultation or dealings with the
IRS outside the realm of the  actual annual tax return
preparation) would also be billed at our standard hourly rates.

Other accounting services which may be needed by IFCSS would be
billed at our standard hourly rates. As mentioned earlier, these
rates vary depending upon job category and are typically adjusted
annually on February 1. For your information, our current hourly
rates are as follows:

          Job Categories           Hourly Rates
          --------------           ------------

          principal                $ 105 - $ 200
          Manager                     80 -   110
          Senior-Supervisor           50 -   100
          Staff                       40 -    80
          Paraprofessional            60 -    80

We would require an engagement agreement and letter of
understanding to be signed by IFCSS upon acceptance of our
proposal and before services would begin. The agreement could
include, but not be necessarily limited to, description of the
engagement, fees, conditions of payment, retainer requirements
(we  normally require a deposit form new clients prior to the
commencement of services up to one-half of the annual fee),
deadlines for reports, etc.

For your information, the attached Appendix A lists client
references, the majority of which are not-for-profit associations
comparable to IFCSS in terms of accounting and tax engagement
scope of  services. Additional references will be made available
upon request. We have made every effort to provide realistic fee
estimates, and if you have any questions regarding the details of
our proposed fees, please contact us as we would appreciate the
opportunity to discuss them with you to reach a mutually
agreeable fee arrangement.

In conclusion, we appreciate this opportunity to have been
solicited to respond to your request for proposal and to submit a
proposal to serve as your independent accountants. We are
confident that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the required
staff who are qualified through education, training and
experience, the necessary support resources, and the enthusiasm
to conduct the required compilations, consulting and tax services
in a satisfactory, timely and efficient manner. We welcome the
opportunity to work with the Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars and look forward to hearing from you. If
you have any questions or require additional information, please
feel free to contact me at 301/530-2200.


Very truly yours,

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, P.C.

By: Dan D'Agostino, CPA (signed)
    Principal
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All Council Colleagues:

     Please spend few minutes to read the HQ's package for the CPA bid 
and ake your preference among them. Please express your oppinion no later 
than January 14. Otheriwse, you will be considered asyou have given up 
the right in the regard of the selection.

     Please book your ticket to DC as soon as possible. There is an 
airfare on-sale before January 11. IFCSS will reimburse you when you 
arrive at DC.

     Please immediately send your travel permission application to Taiwan 
Coordination Council for North American Affairs if your application for 
Taiwan trip ahs been approved.

     Best regards,


Liqun Dong



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Liqun,

I am a little confused about the CPA bidding.
If the HQ sends a proposal to the Council for consideration,
the Council can only make decision in a conference by a vote.
We are now not in any conference, then it seems not to be 
approriate to require the Council members to either voice their
opinion by a date or lose their right. I am also unclear about
who then has the by-default right to decide the CPA bidding result.

As for the proposed Working meeting, can you or someone give the
colleagues in the Council a clearer idea of what we are supposed to
discuss in this meeting. So far we have only seen an announcement from
the HQ, and nothing from the Council. It will help the Council members
a bit if some background information is given as to where this meeting
is from and what the agenda will be.


Yungui

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>As for the proposed Working meeting, can you or someone give the
>colleagues in the Council a clearer idea of what we are supposed to
>discuss in this meeting. So far we have only seen an announcement from
>the HQ, and nothing from the Council. It will help the Council members
>a bit if some background information is given as to where this meeting
>is from and what the agenda will be.

The announcement  is from HQ, Council Chair and SVC chair.
I was told there are mainly two issues.
1. The IFCSS finance. All council members, SVC members, HQ staffs and others
will be able to sit together to review the IFCSS finance and all the documents.
A CPA prepare some review and we are able to talk to him/her directly
and request any further of investigation. (This is from the HQ's letter.)
So I expect we can get a thorough and clear idea of the whole finance
condition and be able to make our recommendation for future finance
conduct.

2. Discuss the IFCSS goal and structure. This is always the topic for
each round table meeting.


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please forward to council-l, thanks
=============================


               Open Letter to IFCSS Council Members

                                                 
                                                 Jinghong Li
                                                 University of Dayton
                                                 Jan. 11, 1994

Dear IFCSS 5th Term Council Members,

Being a member of the IFCSS Council, you enjoy the rights as an independent
individual in this country like everyone else.  What make you different 
from the rest of the Chinese students/scholars (CSS) is that they gave you
their trust and you accepted certain responsibilities.  As a Council
member, you have the privilege to represent CSS in your region, and you have
the duty to uphold the principles declared by the IFCSS Constitution.

There is nothing wrong to be invited to join a private group or email net
regardless what its goal is, be it support IFCSS or win the next election.
After all, only better communication can make an organization work well.
When dealing complex issues and when there is the "gray" area of right or 
wrongs, there is nothing wrong for holding similar views with people who 
happen to be in the same private group.  

However, if a Council member puts personal or a small group's interests 
above IFCSS when performing his/her duty, if a Council member closes his/her
eyes in front of right and wrongs clear as black-and-white, and blindly 
supports "friends" and opposes "opponents", everything is wrong.

I sincerely hope that all IFCSS officials to keep in mind of their duties 
and responsibilities.  No one can force you to do anything except your own
sense of justice and integrity.  Please remember, it is the interests of 
IFCSS and your personal credibility on line.  And people are watching.

Thank you for your attention.

                                                Sincerely,

                                                Jinghong Li (signed)

CC: IFCSS HQ, SVC, IFCSSVC, and public nets


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Dear IFCSS Members:

     The following is the call for the first IFCSS Council Email
Conference, a special meeting. Please send your opinions to 
"chair@ifcss.org" or
any of the following Council members' email addresses:

Chen Dong       (301)405-5425   dong@fuzzy.umd.edu
Ding Yungui     (515)296-7691   DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov
Dong Liqun      (206)323-5529   dlq@u.washington.edu
Fan Hongran     (305)326-8902   hfan@newssun.med.miami.edu
Liang Er        (415)751-3606
Liu Chen        (518)427-5883   liuc@violet.ph.albany.edu
Qi Bing         (716)292-0033   BGQI@medinfo.rochester.edu
Ren Songlin     (617)773-2753   songlin@buphy.bu.edu
Shao Qing       (703)951-9697   qshao@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Shen Tong
Wang Jing       (413)549-6919   ejwang@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Wang Yu         (303)494-9684   wangy@rtt.colorado.edu
Xu Datong       (602)628-7981
Zhang Feng      (612)378-2594   zhan0002@student.tc.umn.edu
Zhang Li        (817)548-7357
Zhou Hongguang  (404)373-8053   labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu


Sinerely,

Dong Liqun(signed)
Chairperson of the IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From:   Liqun Dong, Chair of Council
        Dong Chen, Secretary of Council
To:     IFCSS Council, SVC, HQ, all CSS
Date:   Jan. 11, 1994
Sub:    Call for the 1st IFCSS Council Email Conference

IFCSS Council,
IFCSS SVC,
IFCSS HQ,
CSS,

According to IFCSS Council Bylaw ARTICLE II, Section 1, ARTICLE III,
and after series consultations with members of the Council, this is a
call for the IFCSS Council First Email Conference.  The Email
conference will be held during the time of:

  Start:     6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994
  End:       5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

Enclosed please find a tentative schedule, meeting order and rules.

Council members please report to the meeting by signing and posting
the following message to council network before the meeting starts:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 .......................................................................

Interested public readers are welcome to audit the Conference.  Please
be advised that only council members, the IFCSS HQ and invited guests
are permitted to post on the council working network during the
conference.  Any violation shall result in, without warning, immediate
termination of the access privilege.

To audit the council email network (if you are not already on the
council-l net, please send email to:
        listserv@ifcss.org
with the first line of message of:
        sub council-l firstname lastname
Thank you for your attention.

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                  IFCSS Council Email Conference
                              Schedule
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Session Form:       Email conference

Duration:           One week (7 days)

Start Time:         3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994

Proposing Deadline: 3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Friday, Jan. 15, 1994

Close Debate:       3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994

Conference Adjourns:2:59pm PST or 5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

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                 Business Order of the Meeting
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1. On adoption of Email Conference Rules and Order of the Meeting;

2. On CPA bidding
        (deadline: 8:00pm PST or 11:00pm EST, Friday, Jan. 14, 1994);

3. On Council members proposals moved before the proposing deadline;

4. On emergency proposals moved after the proposing deadline - see rules;

5. Vote on resolutions.


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                    Temporaray Meeting Agenda
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1.  On CPA "bidding"**:  to vote or express own voice;

2.  On Finance Committee's Open Letter: to decide whether temporary and 
       emergent motion is necessary or not, and if yes, what and how;
 
3.  On Proposed Working Meeting: to dicide what issues we should discuss in
         the meeting and to prepare them.

**: Please remind that it is impossible to conduct a formal bid in a 
short period currently and the deadline for selecting CPA is 8:00pm PST 
or 11:00pm EST, Friday, Jan. 14, 1994.
 
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                     Email Conference Rules
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1.  According to Council Bylaw, Quorum of the meeting is 2/3 of the
    total member of the Council.  Currently, 2/3 of 16 is 11.

2.  According to IFCSS Constitution, resolutions are adopted by vote of
    no less then half of the entire Council membership.

3.  According to Council Bylaw, all council members are required to
    attend the email conference in one of the following two forms:

    a. Post to the Council email network during the conference period;

    b. If no email accounts, a member shall contact, before and during the
       meeting time two or more times with at least one Council member who
       has email access to Council net.  The said member's concern and votes
       shall be forwarded to the council email network.

4.  To be present in the email conference, a council member shall post to the
    Council email network before the Email Conference starts.  According to
    council Bylaw and previous practice, the announcement should be in the
    following form:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 ...........................................................................

5.  Proposals are moved by one or more Council members before the proposing
    deadline.   A second is required for all proposals.

6.  Proposals moved after the deadline can only be accepted through the
    following emergency procedure.  It is the emergency proposal's author's
    responsibility to:

    1. Inform all council members at least 36 hours before the scheduled
       conference closing time;
    2. Receive a second;
    3. Receive at least half council members' approval for admitting the
       emergency proposal to the conference.

7.  Council Secretary shall assign a series number for each proposed
    resolution, and keep an official record of all conference related posts;

8.  All votes shall be posted on the council email network directly within
    the voting period (the last two days of the conference), including
    forwarded votes of members with no email access.

9.  Because of the characteristics of email conference, amendments shall not
    be voted on whether or not to be adopted.  Resolution's original author
    should consider suggestions, changes, etc. seriously, and make
    modifications with other member's help.

10. The validation of an email shall be determined by its posting time.

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Attachments:

1. Recommendation on CPA Bidding (HQ mail in January 10)

2. Resolutions proposed

3. Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)



Dong Liqun              Dong Chen
Chairperson             Secretary
IFCSS Council           IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

**** Subject: Recommendation on CPA Bidding

DATE:     January 10, 1994
TO:       IFCSS Council and SVC
FROM:     IFCSS HQ
SUBJECT:  Recommendation On the CPA Bidding To Professionalize
          the IFCSS Accounting System

Since forwarding the four CPA proposals for the bid to
professionalize the IFCSS accounting system, we have received
many responses and enquiries from members of the Council and SVC.

Based upon the following three criteria:

1.   The professional reputation and experience;
2.   That the firm's proposed service and business profile
closely fit the need of IFCSS as a non-profit organization within
the CSS community;
3.   The cost;

the IFCSS HQ recommends that Jeff W.S. Lin proceed to take up the
task of helping professionalizing the IFCSS accounting system,
which includes (though not limited to):

1.   Compiling all IFCSS financial transactions and records since
and including last term (the fourth term) in accordance with
Statements on Standards for Accounting and Review Services
regarding non-profit organizations issued by the American
Institute of Certified Public Accountants;

2.   Providing Evaluation Report on the general conditions of the
IFCSS accounting system, and on any possible material errors,
irregularities or illegal acts;

3.   Making policy suggestions on IFCSS accounting format,
control and management to promote professionalization.

Here are some of the considerations that lead to our
recommendation:

Mr. Jeff W.S. Lin is a well-established CPA in the DC area. His
company has an efficient staff and a business profile that
closely fit the need of the IFCSS. This is clearly reflected in
his proposal, which we think is the best among the four. Not only
his clients are mostly non-profit organizations like IFCSS, the
National Endowment For Democracy (NED) has hired his company to
conduct external auditings to organizations receiving NED funds.
The quality of his company's professional service is well
recognized in the community here. The company will charge a flat
fee of $2,600 (in two installments) for the service.

Myint & Buntua and Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC are also
well recognized CPA firms in the DC area. Both of them have
strong background in non-profit organizations. However, their
charged fees may be higher than we can afford. Both companies
declined to give a flat fee for the service, but provided
estimated fees ($2,720 by Myint & Buntua and $2,325 by Cohen
Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). If they need to work beyond the
estimated hours, additional fees will be billed at a hourly rate
($80 per additional hour by Myint $ Buntua and $105-200 per
additional hour by Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). Some of
the service (for instance, making control and policy suggestions,
setting formatting procedures) may not be included in the
estimate, and therefore may incur unpredictable hourly fees to
complete.

Terry T. Fang, a CPA entrepreneur, asked a flat fee of $800 for
the service proposed, which is the most economical among the
four. However, his business profile, experience, background and
supporting staff are not as strong as the other three firms.
During the interview with the HQ, he asked far fewer questions
than the other three CPAs regarding the IFCSS accounting. We are
not sure that he fully appreciates the complexity of the IFCSS's
multi-aspects of financial activities. And he is unable to
impress us with the kind of quality service that will satisfy the
IFCSS needs.

The above is our opinion, and you are encouraged to make further
inquiries either to the HQ or to the CPAs directly. As we expect
the designated CPA to complete the aforementioned three tasks
before the Feb 5-6 Working Meeting in DC, we urge the Council to
adopt a resolution of designation as soon as possible. However,
if the Council is unable to reach a vote or verdict by January
14th, the HQ will proceed as this memo has recommended while
continuing to seek the Council's endorsement.

We will arrange to have the designated CPA to meet with each of
you when you come to DC, and to present to the Council and SVC
the re-compiled IFCSS accounts along with evaluation report and
policy suggestions over IFCSS accounting control, format and
management. The HQ is confident that together we may further
reform and refine our accounting system towards greater
professionalization and accountability.

Again, we have attached the four CPAs' original proposals for
your reference. Thank you.

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                        PROPOSAL BY MYINT & BUNTUA
                       Certified Public Accountants
                       5203 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300
                          Falls Church, VA 22041
                            Tel:  (703)845-1555

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Lin Changsheng,

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

we will perform the following services:

I.   Compilation

     we will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheet and the related statements of revenue,
     expenses, fund balances, and cash flows of IFCSS for the
     year ended June 30, 1993. We will not audit or review such
     financial statements. Our report on the annual financial
     statements of IFCSS is presently expected to read as
     follows:

          We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of
          IFCSS, and the related statements of revenue, expenses,
          fund balances and cash flows for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. We have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

Your bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and
any supporting schedules we require.

II.  Federal and State Tax Returns

     We will also prepare the federal tax return 990 for IFCSS
     for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, we will in form you of any material
errors that come to our attention and any irregularities or
illegal acts that come to our attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

     For items I and II, we estimate our fee to be $1,630.

III. Limited Review of Accounting Systems and Procedures

     We will review your current accounting system, procedures
     and administrative controls. We will report on our review
     and provide you with our recommendations.

     Our fee for Item III will be based on the number of hours
     and the staff positions of the individuals assigned. Based
     on our survey, we estimate that we will incur the following:

          Classification           Hours          Amount

          Partner                   2             $  190

          Senior                   20             $  900
                                                  -------
                                                  $1,090

We shall be pleased to discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.

                                   Sincerely,

                                   Ellen Myint, CPA
                                   Partner

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Terry T. Fang
Certified Public Accountant
3328 Monarch Lane
Annandale, VA 22003
(703)560-4520

December 22, 1993

Mr. Changsheng Lin
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, N.W. Suite 440
Washington, D.C. 20005

Dear Mr. Lin:

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

1.   We will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheets and related statements of income, retained
earnings, and cash flow of Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars (IFCSS) for the year ended September 30,
1993. We will not audit or review such financial statements. Our
report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is presently
expected to read as follows:

     "We have compile the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS as
of September 30, 1993, and the related statements of income,
retained earnings, and cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with statements on Standards for Accounting and Review
Services issued by the American Institute of Certified Public
Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
financial statement information this is the representation of
management. We have not audited or reviewed the accompanying
financial statements and, accordingly, do not express an opinion
or any other form of assurance on them."

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation or
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   We will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
account so that he/she will be able to prepare a working trial
balance from which financial statements can be compiled. Your
bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and any
supporting schedules we require.

3.   We will evaluate your current internal control and
accounting system, and make suggestions as necessary.

4.   We will also prepare the federal and state information
returns and income tax returns, if required, for IFCSS for the
fiscal year ended September 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors and
irregularities, including fraud or defalcations, that may exist.
However, we will inform you of irregularities that come to our
attention, unless they are inconsequential.

Our fee for these services is $800.00. We shall be pleased to
discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.


Sincerely yours,



-----------------------
Terry T. Fang, CPA







Acknowledgment:
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars


-----------------------
President



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Date


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                         PROPOSAL BY JEFF W.S. LIN
                        Certified Public Accountant
                      414 Hungerford Drive, Suite 236
                            Rockville, MD 20850
                  Tel: (301)762-0479   Fax: (301)309-0479

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington D.C. 20005

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of my engagement and the nature and limitations of the
services I will provide.

I will perform the following services:

1.   I will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheets and the related statements of income and
     retained earnings, of IFCSS for the year ended June 30,
     1993. I will not audit or review such financial statements.
     My report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is
     presently expected to read as follows:

          I have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS
          as of June 30, 1993, and the related statements of
          income and retained earnings, for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          Accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. I have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters.

If, for any reason, I am unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, I will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   I will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
     accounts so that she will be able to prepare a working trial
     balance from which financial statements can be compiled.
     Your bookkeeper will provide me with a detailed trial
     balance and any supporting schedules I require.

3.   I will also prepare the federal and state income tax returns     for 
IFCSS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

My engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, I will inform you of any material errors
that may come to my attention and any irregularities or illegal
acts that come to my attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

My fee for the above services will be a flat fee of $1500.00.

Furthermore, I will conduct a study of the internal control
structure of IFCSS and report the results thereof to you. This
study requires the cooperation from all personnel within the
organization. Again, I will not conduct the audit or review of
the IFCSS's financial statements. The fee for this service will
be $700.00.

At your request, I will also draft up an accounting policy manual
which will be based on my internal control study to spell out the
detail control procedures, the control environment and the
accounting system. The fee for this service will be $400.00.

Based on the conversation we had and the prior engagement I had
with your firm, I firmly believe that the above three (3)
services will enable your organization to run the business in a
more efficient and professional manner and to serve the overseas
Chinese students and scholars most effectively.

Should you have any questions with regard to any of the
aforementioned proposals please do not hesitate to call me.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
along with a check in the amount of $1300.00 (one half of total
fee) to me at your earliest convenience.

                              Sincerely,

                              Jeff W. S. Lin, CPA (signed)



Acknowledged:
IFCSS

_________________________
President

_________________________
Date


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PROPOSAL TO SERVE INDEPENDENT FEDERATION OF CHINESE
STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS

December 27, 1993

COHEN
RUTHERFORD
BLUM&SCHOTT,PC
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

6903 Rockledge Dr. Suite 1330
Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800
Telephone 301-530-2200
Telefax   301-530-3625


December 27,1993

Mr. Xiaozhu Liu
Executive Director
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, NW, Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Liu:

We are pleased to present our proposal to serve the Independent
of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS) as your independent
accountants and business advisors, and we appreciate the
opportunity to have been called upon to respond to your request
for proposal (REP) per our meeting of December 22, 1993. As this
proposal will demonstrate, we are interested in serving IFCSS,
and as an important client of our firm, you can be sure of our
commitment to provide timely, quality services.

Based on our meeting, it is apparent that your management style
coincides with our philosophy concerning client service. As
mentioned to you, member of our firm pride themselves as more
than a "once a year visitor" and can and will respond quickly to
all of your accounting and financial needs. We are interested in
providing advice that will help you make proper business
decisions to effectively and efficiently operate IFCSS. Only with
proper information, obtained on a timely basis, can management be
effective in its role and in maintaining its fiduciary
responsibility in overseeing the operations of IFCSS. I believe
it is important to you and IFCSS to have a full service firm
being integrally involved with your operation. especially as you
expand our operations in fulfilling your mission and purpose in
accordance with your Articles of Incorporation.

Our proposal is structured to emphasize the importance we place
on client service and the service we would deliver to IFCSS, and
to affirm the commitment of our people who will work with you.
IFCSS should expect more than an efficient and quality
compilation from its independent accountants and our philosophy
of client service parallels that expectation. We are confident
that after reviewing our proposal, you will agree that Cohen,
Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the desire and resources to deliver
the level of services required by IFCSS.

FIRM BACKGROUND

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott is a certified public accounting
firm which was formed in the fall of 1980. We have a professional
staff of approximately 25 full-time employees, and our main
office is located at Two Democracy Center, 6903 Rockledge Drive,
Suite 1330, Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800. We currently provide
annual audit, tax, and consulting services to a wide variety of
clients, a significant portion of which are not-for-profit
organizations and associations. In addition to performing audit
and consulting services, our firm provides tax and financial
planning services, accounting assistance, and a wide range of
management advisory consulting services. We are very confident
that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the means, experience,
and expertise to provide the needed services to meet the
requirements of IFCSS.

Because not-for-profit organizations represent a significant
portion of our current clientele, we have kept abreast of all
significant audit and tax changes and proposals affecting the
industry. Since we are involved with the sizable association
network within the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area, we are
very familiar with the unique characteristics of fund accounting
and other relevant aspects affecting accounting, cost
allocations, finance, and administration of these types of
organizations. Several of our current audit clients' operations
would appear to be comparable to IFCSS's, whose revenue,
membership structure and programs are similar to your
organization's.

Our clientele includes organizations who receive, as either
direct recipients or subrecipients, federal assistance of varying
amounts. We are therefore familiar with the government audit
procedures and reporting mechanisms for compliance under the
applicable Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Circulars, if
IFCSS were subject to federal funding requiring an audit.

We have also had principals of the firm volunteer their services
as technical advisors to certain committees or boards of our
clients, as well as serving as board members for nonclients.
Members of our firm have been active participants in chambers of
commerce, the American Society of Association Executives, the
Greater Washington Society of Association Executives, and
numerous other trade associations. We would also like to mention
that our firm underwent a quality review in 1993 performed by an
external, independent accounting firm, the results of which were
very positive and an unmodified report was issued. We are
dedicated to providing the best and broadest professional
services to our clients by utilizing our expertise and knowledge
through a well defined and thoroughly planned work approach and
communication mechanism.

Our firm has also assisted our clients in compensation analysis,
ballot counts, write-up services, preparation of operating and
capital budgets, W-2 and 1099 preparation, staffing analysis,
assessment of computer needs and development of requests for
information and requests for proposals for management information
systems, as well as other areas. We are sure that our experience
and resources can be applied to IFCSS's operations as needed
which may prove to be beneficial to your organization.

SCOPE OF SERVICES AND TIMING

It is our understanding that the scope of services desired by
IFCSS would include a compilation of the accrual basis financial
statements (balance sheet, statements of revenue and expense and
fund balance, and cash flows) as of June 30, 1993 and for the
year then ended, and possibly also future fiscal periods;
preparation of the 1993 annual tax returns (federal Forms 990 and
990T); and various accounting and consulting services as
discussed via the RFP and further outlined below. As mentioned
previously, we confident that we have the resources, expertise,
and the experience to provide quality services essential to meet
your requirements.

A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of financial
statements information that is the representation of management.
You also requested that the compilation includes footnote
disclosures. We will not audit or review such financial
statements. Our report on the annual financial statements of the
Federation is presently expected to read as follows:

     We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet
     of the Independent Federation of Chinese Students
     and Scholars as the June 30, 1993, and the related
statements of  income and expenses and changed in
     fund balance, cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with standards established by the American  Institute
of Certified Public Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form
     of financial statements information that is the
representation of management. We have not audited to   reviewed
the accompanying financial statements and    accordingly, do not
express and opinion or any other
     form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement. At the conclusion of
compilation procedures, we would request certain written
representations from management about your financial statements
and matters related thereto. Our compilation is subject to the
inherent risk that material errors, irregularities, or illegal
acts, including fraud or defalcations, if they exist, would not
be detected. However, we would inform you of any such matters
that come to our attention.

We will actively work with management to anticipate change rather
than merely react to change. We will follow a policy that demands
planning, coordination, and continual communications with key
management personnel of IFCSS, conducting our work at the highest
level of quality at a reasonable cost. Using this approach, IFCSS
will benefit from our wide range of expertise and experience, and
we can be made aware on a timely basis of your needs, problems,
and concerns.

Our services will begin be meeting with you and other key
personnel to thoroughly plan the engagement, develop the client
assistance list, and become familiar with your systems and
procedures. We will utilize to the greatest extent possible
financial and statistical information, workpapers and reports
prepared by you and your personnel and will coordinated our work
with them.

Also, we would prepare and deliver to management a report, after
discussing it with management, which summarizes realistic
recommendations for improving the effectiveness of IFCSS's
accounting, administrative, and operational controls and
procedures, based on our observations and select inquiries of
IFCSS management. However, we will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS, as such a review and evaluation is
not within the scope of this engagement.

The specific timing of the compilation procedures would be worked
out with management based on an agreed-upon schedule. It is
anticipated that the work conducted on-site would not exceed more
than two to three days, and most likely could be achieved within
this period assuming the accounting records are in order and the
client assistance schedule is accurately and thoroughly
completed.

Control Over IFCSS Engagement

The success of any professional engagement depends primarily on
the dedication and abilities of the assigned executives, the
relationships they build with our client's management and staff,
and the selection of the overall audit and consulting team
assigned to the engagement. We believe that we can provide a team
of individuals with the qualities necessary to appropriately and
effectively serve IFCSS as its independent accountants, tax
preparers, and business advisors.

Dan D'Agostino, a principal of the firm, will be the assigned
executive for the engagement. He will be responsible for ensuring
effective planning and staffing, timely performance, continuing
communications, the resolution of questions and potential
problems, and quality control. He will be assisted by a staff
member, most likely Jing Chen who met you at the meeting last
week. Dan has over 19 years experience as a business consultant,
predominantly conducting and managing audit and accounting
engagements as well as numerous and various management advisory
consulting services.

Dan and/or other members of the firm as deemed appropriate will
meet with management during the year to discuss matters affecting
IFCSS as needed to bring important issues to your attention. And,
if any matters requiring assistance do arise during the year, the
executive will have our firm respond quickly and with experienced
personnel.

Elliot Blum is a principal responsible for the firms' tax
practice and he will coordinate the tax services to IFCSS. In
this role he will have the responsibility for ensuring timely
and complete preparation of the tax returns (Federal Forms 990
and 990T), and will ensure that ample time is allotted to review
all tax returns with you in advance of the filing dates. He will
be assisted by members of the firm's tax division, who will also
be available to respond to tax questions or issues and provide
tax planning as the need arises.

Our firm also has two full-time consultants who are solely
dedicated to management information systems and are very
knowledgeable of computer programming, applications and operating
systems. Other consultants of the firm as involved with numerous
other consulting activities. We will draw upon their expertise as
deemed necessary throughout the audit engagement, and in other
services that may be needed and requested by IFCSS throughout the
fiscal period.

PROFESSIONAL FEES AND EXPENSES

As mentioned during our meeting, we would prefer to have IFCSS as
a client over a long term, and since we want to develop a
positive client relationship with IFCSS that we believe would be
mutually rewarding, we have taken the liberty to present a fee
arrangement for not only the 1993 fiscal period, but also for
1994 and 1995. You will note that the fees for the three year
engagement are thus discounted, and average over the term os as
not to have a significantly higher fee in the first  year that
would otherwise be the case.

Based upon the scope of services described above, we propose to
perform the aforementioned services applicable to IFCSS's fiscal
years for the following respective fees:

                              Compilation and Tax
   One year
   Engagement     1993        $2,325

   Multiple Year  1993        $2,200
   Engagement     1994        $2,225
                  1995        $2,450

================================================
          Three Year
          Engagement Total    $6,675

The above quoted fees are based on anticipated hours by level of
personnel, with a discounted hourly rate from our standard hourly
rates per hour for the three year engagement since we are
desirous of having IFCSS as a client over at least the three year
term. The fee also assumes the scope of services or the structure
of the organization does not significantly change during the
first three year period. This implies that IFCSS would not be
subject to government auditing standards or OMB requirements.
Out-of-pocket expenses, which include travel, parking courier
services, copying, fax, etc., are billed as incurred and normally
are about 5% to 7% of professional fees.

The above fees are also based on the assumption that all
necessary information is made available to us during the
engagement(s) and that we receive maximum client assistance as
required. This would include typing of select confirmations if
deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required financial and tax
information, preparation of all bank reconciliations and
requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule, etc.

Receiving maximum assistance allows us to minimize costs to our
clients as well as to allow you to develop a better understanding
of the specific detail required to be obtained from your records
to support your financial statements and tax returns. We will
work with you in developing a client assistance list prior to
commencing field work and in reaching a mutually agreed upon
timetable for providing us the required information.

If you require special assistance during the engagements in
reconciling or analyzing accounts, or in completing the client
assistance workpapers, we would provide estimates and bill
separately for these services based on our standard hourly
consulting rates, which vary by level of personnel.

Specific accounting assistance or tax consultation outside the
scope of services as described above (for instance: Assistance
and/or preparation of journal entries, assistance with
depreciation lapse schedules, cash, receivable or payable
reconciliations, tax advice and consultation or dealings with the
IRS outside the realm of the  actual annual tax return
preparation) would also be billed at our standard hourly rates.

Other accounting services which may be needed by IFCSS would be
billed at our standard hourly rates. As mentioned earlier, these
rates vary depending upon job category and are typically adjusted
annually on February 1. For your information, our current hourly
rates are as follows:

          Job Categories           Hourly Rates
          --------------           ------------

          principal                $ 105 - $ 200
          Manager                     80 -   110
          Senior-Supervisor           50 -   100
          Staff                       40 -    80
          Paraprofessional            60 -    80

We would require an engagement agreement and letter of
understanding to be signed by IFCSS upon acceptance of our
proposal and before services would begin. The agreement could
include, but not be necessarily limited to, description of the
engagement, fees, conditions of payment, retainer requirements
(we  normally require a deposit form new clients prior to the
commencement of services up to one-half of the annual fee),
deadlines for reports, etc.

For your information, the attached Appendix A lists client
references, the majority of which are not-for-profit associations
comparable to IFCSS in terms of accounting and tax engagement
scope of  services. Additional references will be made available
upon request. We have made every effort to provide realistic fee
estimates, and if you have any questions regarding the details of
our proposed fees, please contact us as we would appreciate the
opportunity to discuss them with you to reach a mutually
agreeable fee arrangement.

In conclusion, we appreciate this opportunity to have been
solicited to respond to your request for proposal and to submit a
proposal to serve as your independent accountants. We are
confident that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the required
staff who are qualified through education, training and
experience, the necessary support resources, and the enthusiasm
to conduct the required compilations, consulting and tax services
in a satisfactory, timely and efficient manner. We welcome the
opportunity to work with the Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars and look forward to hearing from you. If
you have any questions or require additional information, please
feel free to contact me at 301/530-2200.


Very truly yours,

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, P.C.

By: Dan D'Agostino, CPA (signed)
    Principal
*************************************************************************
=========================================================================

**** Resolutions proposed

[CP5026]
        Resolution on inactivating the Finance Committee
                by Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        1) IFCSS Council Committees are elected and responsible for the
           Council. The Finance Committee neither got consent from nor
           informed other Council members before the releasing of recent
           open letter to the CSS. Such irresponsible action violated
           the basic right of other council members,
        2) A IFCSS Working Meeting is to be held Feb. 5-6, 1994 at 
Washington,
           D.C. and a professional review of both external and internal
           finance status is to be reviewed by CPA. All Council members,
           SVC members and other CSS will have the opportunity to thoroughly
           check and question HQ's operations in the past and future,
        3) The dispute between Finance Committee and HQ is getting too
           emotional, and a normal professional relationship between Council
           Finance Committee and HQ is not possible to keep at this time,

        Be it resolved that,

        temporally inactivate the Finance Committee and its inspection team
        until further discussion of Council.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
[CP5027]
        Amendment to Council Bylaw
                By Liang, Er/Dong Chen

        Whereas that the council committees are elected by the Council;
        that the committees' privilege is granted by the council;
        that the council is responsible for the committees' action;

        Amend that,

        To the Council Bylaw, in article IV, after the first sentence,
        "...shall have and may exercise the powers of the Council in
         management of the business and affairs of the Council."
        add the following,

        "The committees must inform and get consent from the Council
         for any of their activities outside the Council.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[CP5028]
        Resolution on open the "finance-net" to the Council
                By Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        The Finance Committee is elected and responsible for the
        Council; many council members were not inform enough for the
        Finance Committee's recent action; the Finance Committee has
        set up a network for their routine work,

        Be it resolved that,

        Finance Committee open the "finance-net" to all Council members
        include its archived files.

*************************************************************************
=========================================================================

**** Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)

Dear colleague,

     As this is the first email conference we have, I think it is
necessary to me to explain how the procedure should go. Please notice
this is only my own understanding and suggestion after consulting with
other people who have more experience in this matter. Please do voice
your suggestions.

[sign on]

     First we should sign on the net as soon as possible by sending
mail to "council-l@ifcss.org". In fact, you should sign on now.

[deadline]

     Then start from 6:00pm EST, Jan. 13, you can post your
discussion and vote to the net. Please notice the deadlines, i.e.
        - 11:00pm EST, Jan. 15 for vote of the CPA
        - 6:00pm  EST, Jan. 15 for proposing new resolutions
        - 5:59pm  EST, Jan. 20 for vote of all resolutions.

[vote]

     You can vote any resolutions as soon as the meeting starts.

     Please refer to the series number of the resolution (CP50**) when
you need to mention the resolution.

     Please post you discussion and vote as soon as you can. Don't wait
until the deadline, although I will try to remind you to vote in the
last two days of the meeting.

     You can vote for one issue at a time or combine all of them together.
Please write clearly which resolution you are talking/voting.

     All resolutions have to be voted, there is no unanimous consent.

[writing]

     For clarity, I suggest we write the subject line in this format:
        Subject: [area]<your name> message title
where [area] can be [vote],[discussion],[CP5026],[motion] etc.
the message title can be optional. For example,
Subject: [discussion]<Dong Chen> Who is responsible for the open letter?

     For rules that not defined in the order of the meeting, we should
follow the Robert Rule of Order.
     I suggest everybody check your email at least once per day.

Dong Chen




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An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ 
over not Implementing the Council Resolution

Date: 	January 11, 1994

From: 		5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
		Zhou Hongguang(signed for FC)

TO:		IFCSS Supervisory Committee
		
CC:		IFCSS Council
		IFCSS HQ 
		(a copy of this Letter is sent to HQ via Fax at 202-347-
		0018)
            
Attention: 	Luo Li-shi, Coordinator of  IFCSS SVC
		(A copy of this Letter will be sent to you via US mail)

Sub: 		An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin 
Changsheng and HQ over not Implementing the Council Resolution

Dear IFCSS SVC:

This is an appeal by the 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee (FC) 
against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and the HQ over not 
Implementing the Council Resolution. On August 15, 1993, the 
Council adopted the Resolution CP5020 to authorize the FC to audit 
the Financial records of the IFCSS HQ. For your reference, a copy of 
the Resolution is attached. 

FC then organized an Inspection Team, of which Zhou Hongguang was 
the Coordinator, consisting of Qi Bing, Liu Chen, Ban Yan and Zhou 
Hongguang and conducted first on-site examination during November 
6-7, 1993. Because of the HQ blockage of Mr. Bai Yan's participation 
and the inadequate preparation of the financial records by the HQ, 
the IT was not able to review all the financial records. On November 24, 
1993, Zhou Hongguang gave a progress report about the auditing to 
the Council.  IT informed the HQ on December 19, 1993 of the follow-
up inspection during December 28-31, 1993. Please refer to the 
memo in Appendix 2. 

On December 22, HQ issued a statement refusing to receive the IT 
(see Appendix 3). Given the Resolution CP5020 is valid and has been 
implemented partly by both the FC and the HQ, this act of refusing by HQ in 
fact constitutes the violation of the IFCSS By-law Chapter IV Article
20.2: 

     " The responsibilities of the President (of IFCSS) include: ... to 
implement the resolutions adopted by the Congress or the Council."  

As the actual enforcement unit of the Council Resolution, FC
deem that, in order to uphold the principles of IFCSS
Constitution and to maintain the seriouness of the IFCSS By-law, 
this appeal have to be filed to SVC against by Mr. Lin Changsheng 
and HQ in connection of the violation of the IFCSS By-law. FC requests

1. action taken by Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ to refuse execute the Council
Resoulution be declared illegal;

2. the implementation of the Council Resolution CP5020 be continued and be
completed.

=============================================================
Appendix 1
-------------
Resolution on Examination of the Financial and Asset Situation of 
IFCSS HQ
(CP5020)	Sponsored by Finance Committee

I. Background
    During the each transition of the HQ, there has been always 
discrepancy occurred in the financial records of HQ. This year is again 
sees no exception. The financial report by the 4th term is incomplete 
and even after the 5th term budget request has been was submitted 
to the Council's Finance Committee and the repeated request by the 
Finance Committee of furnishing update information, the report by 
the HQ is still full with estimated figures.

II. Objectives
Financial records;
To compose fixed asset list;
Workload evaluation;
To gather Information for financial package regarding the operation 
of HQ.

III. Efficiency analysis
Benefits that may resulted from such a site examination
Costs involved: travel and lodge expenses by the Finance Committee
Expected date of report to the Council

    Whereas since the IFCSS HQ does not have a equipment list 
therefore the council can not examine the corresponding items in the 
HQ budget.

    Whereas the members of the council financial committee hold the
responsibility to the members of the council and IFCSS and have the 
right to know the finance of the IFCSS.
  
    Be it resolved:

    The members of financial committee will go to HQ and give a clear
report for last term and a list of IFCSS equipment.

[Note: CP5020 was adopted as CR5011 
       with 9 Yeah, 4 Abstain, 0 Nay, 3 absent.]

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Appendix 2

                    An Announcement 
on Follow-up Site Inspection of IFCSS HQ Financial Situation
     by IFCSS Council Financial Inspection Team

Date: 	December 19, 1993

From: 	Council Financial Inspection Team (thereafter refer as IT)
		Zhou Hongguang(signed), Coordinator

TO:		IFCSS Council
		IFCSS HQ
CC:		IFCSS SVC
            
Attention: 	Mr. Lin Changsheng, President
	   	Ms. Jiang Zuihong, Treasurer

Sub: Follow-up Site Inspection of IFCSS HQ Financial Situation

1. Objectives:

1.1	To continue implementing the Council Resolution C5020 by 
completing the review of the financial records of 4th IFCSS HQ and 
the 
up to date records of the 5th term, including fixed asset list; 

1.2	To further gather information needed for putting forwarding  
amendments to the financial regulations governing the operation of 
IFCSS 
(to amend the existing Financial Regulations is one of the major goal 
of 
the 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee's work);

1.3	To provide a basis for further certified public auditing by a 
CPA.

2. Parties involved:
	
2.1	IFCSS Council Financial Inspection Team: Qi Bing, Liu Cheng, Bai 
Yan, Zhou Hongguang 

2.2	HQ: 	President and Treasurer of the 4th term
		President and Treasurer of the 5th term

3. Time and Place

3.1	Time is essence. Because all members of the IT are full-time 
students and the only time they are available before summer is 
winter break, the days between the Christmas and News Years' holidays 
would be the only best slot accommodating the schedule of semester closing 
and beginning of the IT members. Though this period of time is a family-
union time, IT thinks it has to carry out its responsibility. 

3.2 	Time: 12/28-12/31/93, and after the New Year's Day if 
necessary

3.3	Place: IFCSS HQ Office, Washington, D.C.

4. Responsibility of the HQ

4.1	The HQ are urged to follow the memo sent to Ms. Jiang Zuihong 
on December 18, 1993 by the Council Financial Committee (Appendix 1) 
to prepare material that required;

4.2	The HQ should follow the Financial Regulations to provide full 
assistance, access to the site and all possible conveniences to IT as to 
the reviewing the financial and fixed assets situations at the  HQ;

4.3	The HQ should inform Mr. Geng Xiao of his presence at the HQ 
at aforesaid dates.

5. Support for and cooperation in the site examination

5.1	Financial inspection is one of the major checking-and-balancing 
mechanism IFCSS possesses. Support for and cooperation in the 
inspection work from the Council, HQ and general public is essential for 
smoothly conducting such business.

6. Others

6.1	In case that the situations arise that is not anticipated in the 
above, the parties involved should consult with each other and solve 
the differences according to the IFCSS Constitution and Bylaws and 
resolutions.

6.2	Questions: please contact Zhou Hongguang, Coordinator of IT.

Thank you for your kind attention.

-----------------------------------------
Appendix 1

To:   Jiang Zuihong, the Treasurer, IFCSS (ifcss@wam.umd.edu)
Cc:   IFCSS Council (council-l@ifcss.org)
From: The Finance Committee, IFCSS (signed by: Zhou Hongguang)
Subj:   Quick Provision of Financial Information
Date: December 18, 1993
 
It has been 6 weeks since the Inspection Team issued a memo to you 
on November 7, 1993 with respect to the provision of necessary 
financial information. Apparently you have chosen to ignore its 
attempts of good will to secure information from you, and you have 
failed to meet your commitments regarding that memo. Please bear 
in mind that the memo dated November 7, 1993 required you to 
provide information, rather than asked you to merely indicate 
whether you had information or not.
 
The information the Inspection Team wants for this time still derives 
from the memo, which is listed as follows. Again, we suggest you to 
act at once. Please remember that requests for further information 
will be made from time to time, and any information obtained will be 
used for the objectives of the IFCSS's financial improvement.
 
The following information should be sent to Mr. Zhou Hongguang, the 
coordinator of the Finance Committee no later than December 31, 
1993, Friday.
 
1. Copies of each Form 990, including the one for the last fiscal year.
 If any "unrelated business" is involved, copies of Form 990 (T) 
must be provided. If the current Form 990 misses the due date for 
IRS, information on the amount of penalty of late charge is needed.
 
2. Copies of all registration documents pertaining to tax-exempt 
status and not-for-profit activities, including 501 (c) (3).
 
3. A statement of IFCSS's total value, including current and 
noncurrent assets.
 
4. Copies of all original invoices and receipts for CSPA and 5th 
Congress.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Appendix 3

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:10:43 -0500
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@wam.umd.edu>
To: council-l@ifcss.org
Cc: ifcssvc@ifcss.org
Subject: Reply to the Memo by the Council Inspection Team

Date:     December 22, 1993
From:     The IFCSS HQ
To:       The IFCSS Council
Subject:  Memo of Council Inspection Team dated 12/19/93

In the Memo dated December 19, 1993 signed by Zhou Hongguang, it
is indicated that another site inspection by Zhou Hongguang, Qi
Bing, Liu Chen, and Bai Yan will occur during 12/28-12/31/93 at
the HQ. The HQ considers the move inappropriate and therefore
will not receive the team at the HQ. The HQ would also like to
bring the following to your attention:

1.   There are disputes over the proper accounting formats and
procedures regarding standards in the CPA community. The previous
lack of professional perspective has given rise to many 
misunderstandings and disagreements, which remain unresolved. 
The HQ is taking steps to professionalize the IFCSS accounting system
by inviting external CPA to look into, recompile and reform the
IFCSS accounting system. The HQ thinks the current inspection by
the team would not help the professionalization.

2.   There are disputes over the authorization issue involved
with some member of the Team which is under review by the
Supervisory Committee. Until the issue is resolved, the HQ will
not accept further inspection by the Team.

--------------------------------EOF------------------------------------





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Liqun:

Please forward this appeal letter to the Chair/Coordinator of SVC. Thank you.

Hongguang

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From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU, ifcssvc@ifcss.org,
     svc93@ifcss.org
Subject: An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ over not Implementing the Council Resolution

An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ 
over not Implementing the Council Resolution

Date: 	January 11, 1994

From: 		5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
		Zhou Hongguang(signed for FC)

TO:		IFCSS Supervisory Committee
		
CC:		IFCSS Council
		IFCSS HQ 
		(a copy of this Letter is sent to HQ via Fax at 202-347-
		0018)
            
Attention: 	Luo Li-shi, Coordinator of  IFCSS SVC
		(A copy of this Letter will be sent to you via US mail)

Sub: 		An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin 
Changsheng and HQ over not Implementing the Council Resolution

Dear IFCSS SVC:

This is an appeal by the 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee (FC) 
against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and the HQ over not 
Implementing the Council Resolution. On August 15, 1993, the 
Council adopted the Resolution CP5020 to authorize the FC to audit 
the Financial records of the IFCSS HQ. For your reference, a copy of 
the Resolution is attached. 

FC then organized an Inspection Team, of which Zhou Hongguang was 
the Coordinator, consisting of Qi Bing, Liu Chen, Ban Yan and Zhou 
Hongguang and conducted first on-site examination during November 
6-7, 1993. Because of the HQ blockage of Mr. Bai Yan's participation 
and the inadequate preparation of the financial records by the HQ, 
the IT was not able to review all the financial records. On November 24, 
1993, Zhou Hongguang gave a progress report about the auditing to 
the Council.  IT informed the HQ on December 19, 1993 of the follow-
up inspection during December 28-31, 1993. Please refer to the 
memo in Appendix 2. 

On December 22, HQ issued a statement refusing to receive the IT 
(see Appendix 3). Given the Resolution CP5020 is valid and has been 
implemented partly by both the FC and the HQ, this act of refusing by HQ in 
fact constitutes the violation of the IFCSS By-law Chapter IV Article
20.2: 

     " The responsibilities of the President (of IFCSS) include: ... to 
implement the resolutions adopted by the Congress or the Council."  

As the actual enforcement unit of the Council Resolution, FC
deem that, in order to uphold the principles of IFCSS
Constitution and to maintain the seriouness of the IFCSS By-law, 
this appeal have to be filed to SVC against by Mr. Lin Changsheng 
and HQ in connection of the violation of the IFCSS By-law. FC requests

1. action taken by Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ to refuse execute the Council
Resoulution be declared illegal;

2. the implementation of the Council Resolution CP5020 be continued and be
completed.

=============================================================
Appendix 1
-------------
Resolution on Examination of the Financial and Asset Situation of 
IFCSS HQ
(CP5020)	Sponsored by Finance Committee

I. Background
    During the each transition of the HQ, there has been always 
discrepancy occurred in the financial records of HQ. This year is again 
sees no exception. The financial report by the 4th term is incomplete 
and even after the 5th term budget request has been was submitted 
to the Council's Finance Committee and the repeated request by the 
Finance Committee of furnishing update information, the report by 
the HQ is still full with estimated figures.

II. Objectives
Financial records;
To compose fixed asset list;
Workload evaluation;
To gather Information for financial package regarding the operation 
of HQ.

III. Efficiency analysis
Benefits that may resulted from such a site examination
Costs involved: travel and lodge expenses by the Finance Committee
Expected date of report to the Council

    Whereas since the IFCSS HQ does not have a equipment list 
therefore the council can not examine the corresponding items in the 
HQ budget.

    Whereas the members of the council financial committee hold the
responsibility to the members of the council and IFCSS and have the 
right to know the finance of the IFCSS.
  
    Be it resolved:

    The members of financial committee will go to HQ and give a clear
report for last term and a list of IFCSS equipment.

[Note: CP5020 was adopted as CR5011 
       with 9 Yeah, 4 Abstain, 0 Nay, 3 absent.]

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Appendix 2

                    An Announcement 
on Follow-up Site Inspection of IFCSS HQ Financial Situation
     by IFCSS Council Financial Inspection Team

Date: 	December 19, 1993

From: 	Council Financial Inspection Team (thereafter refer as IT)
		Zhou Hongguang(signed), Coordinator

TO:		IFCSS Council
		IFCSS HQ
CC:		IFCSS SVC
            
Attention: 	Mr. Lin Changsheng, President
	   	Ms. Jiang Zuihong, Treasurer

Sub: Follow-up Site Inspection of IFCSS HQ Financial Situation

1. Objectives:

1.1	To continue implementing the Council Resolution C5020 by 
completing the review of the financial records of 4th IFCSS HQ and 
the 
up to date records of the 5th term, including fixed asset list; 

1.2	To further gather information needed for putting forwarding  
amendments to the financial regulations governing the operation of 
IFCSS 
(to amend the existing Financial Regulations is one of the major goal 
of 
the 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee's work);

1.3	To provide a basis for further certified public auditing by a 
CPA.

2. Parties involved:
	
2.1	IFCSS Council Financial Inspection Team: Qi Bing, Liu Cheng, Bai 
Yan, Zhou Hongguang 

2.2	HQ: 	President and Treasurer of the 4th term
		President and Treasurer of the 5th term

3. Time and Place

3.1	Time is essence. Because all members of the IT are full-time 
students and the only time they are available before summer is 
winter break, the days between the Christmas and News Years' holidays 
would be the only best slot accommodating the schedule of semester closing 
and beginning of the IT members. Though this period of time is a family-
union time, IT thinks it has to carry out its responsibility. 

3.2 	Time: 12/28-12/31/93, and after the New Year's Day if 
necessary

3.3	Place: IFCSS HQ Office, Washington, D.C.

4. Responsibility of the HQ

4.1	The HQ are urged to follow the memo sent to Ms. Jiang Zuihong 
on December 18, 1993 by the Council Financial Committee (Appendix 1) 
to prepare material that required;

4.2	The HQ should follow the Financial Regulations to provide full 
assistance, access to the site and all possible conveniences to IT as to 
the reviewing the financial and fixed assets situations at the  HQ;

4.3	The HQ should inform Mr. Geng Xiao of his presence at the HQ 
at aforesaid dates.

5. Support for and cooperation in the site examination

5.1	Financial inspection is one of the major checking-and-balancing 
mechanism IFCSS possesses. Support for and cooperation in the 
inspection work from the Council, HQ and general public is essential for 
smoothly conducting such business.

6. Others

6.1	In case that the situations arise that is not anticipated in the 
above, the parties involved should consult with each other and solve 
the differences according to the IFCSS Constitution and Bylaws and 
resolutions.

6.2	Questions: please contact Zhou Hongguang, Coordinator of IT.

Thank you for your kind attention.

-----------------------------------------
Appendix 1

To:   Jiang Zuihong, the Treasurer, IFCSS (ifcss@wam.umd.edu)
Cc:   IFCSS Council (council-l@ifcss.org)
From: The Finance Committee, IFCSS (signed by: Zhou Hongguang)
Subj:   Quick Provision of Financial Information
Date: December 18, 1993
 
It has been 6 weeks since the Inspection Team issued a memo to you 
on November 7, 1993 with respect to the provision of necessary 
financial information. Apparently you have chosen to ignore its 
attempts of good will to secure information from you, and you have 
failed to meet your commitments regarding that memo. Please bear 
in mind that the memo dated November 7, 1993 required you to 
provide information, rather than asked you to merely indicate 
whether you had information or not.
 
The information the Inspection Team wants for this time still derives 
from the memo, which is listed as follows. Again, we suggest you to 
act at once. Please remember that requests for further information 
will be made from time to time, and any information obtained will be 
used for the objectives of the IFCSS's financial improvement.
 
The following information should be sent to Mr. Zhou Hongguang, the 
coordinator of the Finance Committee no later than December 31, 
1993, Friday.
 
1. Copies of each Form 990, including the one for the last fiscal year.
 If any "unrelated business" is involved, copies of Form 990 (T) 
must be provided. If the current Form 990 misses the due date for 
IRS, information on the amount of penalty of late charge is needed.
 
2. Copies of all registration documents pertaining to tax-exempt 
status and not-for-profit activities, including 501 (c) (3).
 
3. A statement of IFCSS's total value, including current and 
noncurrent assets.
 
4. Copies of all original invoices and receipts for CSPA and 5th 
Congress.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Appendix 3

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:10:43 -0500
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@wam.umd.edu>
To: council-l@ifcss.org
Cc: ifcssvc@ifcss.org
Subject: Reply to the Memo by the Council Inspection Team

Date:     December 22, 1993
From:     The IFCSS HQ
To:       The IFCSS Council
Subject:  Memo of Council Inspection Team dated 12/19/93

In the Memo dated December 19, 1993 signed by Zhou Hongguang, it
is indicated that another site inspection by Zhou Hongguang, Qi
Bing, Liu Chen, and Bai Yan will occur during 12/28-12/31/93 at
the HQ. The HQ considers the move inappropriate and therefore
will not receive the team at the HQ. The HQ would also like to
bring the following to your attention:

1.   There are disputes over the proper accounting formats and
procedures regarding standards in the CPA community. The previous
lack of professional perspective has given rise to many 
misunderstandings and disagreements, which remain unresolved. 
The HQ is taking steps to professionalize the IFCSS accounting system
by inviting external CPA to look into, recompile and reform the
IFCSS accounting system. The HQ thinks the current inspection by
the team would not help the professionalization.

2.   There are disputes over the authorization issue involved
with some member of the Team which is under review by the
Supervisory Committee. Until the issue is resolved, the HQ will
not accept further inspection by the Team.

--------------------------------EOF------------------------------------






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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 00:06:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: your appeal to the SVC (fwd)
To: luo@t13.lanl.gov
Cc: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>
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Dear Mr. Lou:

Thanks you for your message below. We look forward to the decision by the
SVC for the justice.

Zhou Hongguang for
The IFCC Council Finance Committee

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 22:05:03 MST
From: Li-Shi Luo <luo@t13.lanl.gov>
To: labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu
Cc: svc93@ifcss.org
Subject: your appeal to the SVC


Dear Mr. Zhou,

I have just received a copy of your appeal to the SVC
via e-mail. Therefore, it won't be necessary to us a
copy via regular mail. 

The SVC shall determine whether to accept your appeal
or not. Once the decision is made, I will inform you
as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for your time and efforts in 
serving the IFCSS.

With my best regards.

Sincerely yours,

Li-Shi LUO
SVC Coordinator



From dong@fuzzy.umd.edu  Wed Jan 12 01:32:52 1994
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From: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu (priv=-10 D.C.)
Message-Id: <9401120731.AA15509@fuzzy.umd.edu>
To: ifcssvc@ifcss.org
Subject: Re: An Appeal against the IFCSS President Mr. Lin Changsheng and HQ
    over no
Cc: council-l@ifcss.org
Status: RO

>To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU, ifcssvc@ifcss.org,
>        svc93@ifcss.org

What is this ifcssvc ? Is it a branch of ifcss ?
Why people always send ifcss documents to this net ?
What I mean is that if the document is intend to release to public, then
there are many place it should also be sent. If it is an internal document,
we should send it to council-l@ifcss.org, which is opened for public auditing.

          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


From songlin@buphy.bu.edu  Wed Jan 12 12:58:17 1994
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 18:56:38 GMT
From: Songlin Ren <songlin@buphy.bu.edu>
Message-Id: <199401121856.SAA11286@buphy.bu.edu>
To: council-l@ifcss.org
Status: RO

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   My e-mail: songlin@buphy.bu.edu

   Ren, Songlin (Signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  North East

 .......................................................................



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From: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu (priv=-10 D.C.)
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To: council-l@ifcss.org
Subject: [sign on]<Dong Chen>
Status: RO

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   My e-mail: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu

   Chen, Dong (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  Mid-Atlantic Region

 .......................................................................
          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


From dlq@u.washington.edu  Wed Jan 12 20:10:07 1994
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 18:08:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
Subject: from Li-Shi Luo, SVC Coordinator (fwd)
To: IFCSS Council <council-l@ifcss.org>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 17:21:06 MST
From: Li-Shi Luo <luo@t13.lanl.gov>
To: dlq@u.washington.edu
Cc: chair@ifcss.org, svc93@ifcss.org
Subject: from Li-Shi Luo, SVC Coordinator

Date:	Wed, Jan 12, 94
To: 	Mr. Liqun Dong, The Council Chairman
From:	Mr. Li-Shi Luo, The SVC Coordinator
Subject: The deadline on the SVC questionnaire to Council members

Dear Liqun,

It has been almost a week since the SVC sent
you memos including questionnaires to you and
to each Council members on Jan 7th, 94. I also 
sent two more messages to chair@ifcss.org in 
last two days to urge each Council member to 
return his/her completed questionnaire. So far, 
the return rate has been disappointingly low. 
To my surprise, some of Council members I have 
talked with haven't even got the questionnaire 
yet till yesterday (Jan. 11, 94). 

As we clearly stated in the memos, there is a 
deadline for submitting the questionnaire, which
is Friday, January 15th, 94, only two days from
now. IF you do think there are difficulties posed
by the deadline, please let us know and we should
come up with a better solution. In any event, the
SVC feels that we should conclude the preliminary
investigation in a timely fashion, so that we will
have enough time for deliberating the verdict. We
sincerely expect that you and your colleagues in the
Council will fully cooperate with us in dealing 
with the pending cases. Could you bring this issue 
up in the up-coming Council e-mail conference?

Thank you very much for your work in the Council,
and I shall expect to hear from you soon.

With my best regards.

Sincerely yours,
Li-Shi Luo
SVC Coordinator


From dong@fuzzy.umd.edu  Thu Jan 13 11:41:39 1994
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 12:31:37 -0500
From: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu (priv=-10 D.C.)
Message-Id: <9401131731.AA20471@fuzzy.umd.edu>
To: labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu, zhan0002@gold.tc.umn.edu,
        wangy@rintintin.colorado.edu, ejwang@titan.ucs.umass.edu,
        qshao@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, BGQI@medinfo.rochester.edu,
        liuc@violet.ph.albany.edu, hfan@newssun.med.miami.edu,
        dlq@u.washington.edu, DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov
Subject: Sign on the Council meeting now !
Cc: council-l@ifcss.org
Status: RO

Sign on the council email meeting now.

Even though the meeting starts 6pm EST, we should sign on before the meeting
start. So please send mail to council-l@ifcss.org.
If you have any problem with the email (got bounced mail, do not see your
post after send it), let me know.

Dong, (301)277-5158 (home), (301)405-5025 (office)
          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 15:43:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: Authenticity of the Open Letter from IFCSS FC
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, ifcssvc@ifcss.org, svc93@ifcss.org
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==================================================================
From: 5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee (Zhou Hongguang signed)

To:   5th IFCSS Council, SVC

Cc:   CSS

Date: 1/13/94

RE: The Authenticity of the Open Letter on the Financial Situation of IFCSS

There are some speculation concerning the authenticity of the open
letter by the FC regarding the financial situation of IFCSS, therefore FC
confirms that the letter was written, approved and sent out by FC. 

--------------------------EOF--------------------------------------------






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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 16:09:54 -0500
From: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu (priv=-10 D.C.)
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To: council-l@ifcss.org
Subject: Last call for emergence email conference
Status: RO

Please notice that,
  accroding to Council bylaw, Article III, Section 7, all council members 
  *MUST* attend the meeting.


[change from last time]:
	Non-council member should send opinions to "council@ifcss.org".
	The starting time is "Thursday", not "Wednesday", still Jan. 13.
	Proposing deadline is "Saturday", not "Friday", still Jan. 15.

-------------------------------------------------
Dear IFCSS Members:

     The following is the call for the first IFCSS Council Email
Conference, a special meeting. Please send your opinions to 
"council@ifcss.org" (was a typo "chair@ifcss.org" in last announcement).

Council members, please check to see if your phone and email address is
correct. 

Chen Dong       (301)405-5425   dong@fuzzy.umd.edu
Ding Yungui     (515)296-7691   DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov
Dong Liqun      (206)323-5529   dlq@u.washington.edu
Fan Hongran     (305)326-8902   hfan@newssun.med.miami.edu
Liang Er        (415)751-3606	jing@physics.usfca.edu
Liu Chen        (518)427-5883   liuc@violet.ph.albany.edu
Qi Bing         (716)292-0033   BGQI@medinfo.rochester.edu
Ren Songlin     (617)773-2753   songlin@buphy.bu.edu
Shao Qing       (703)951-9697   qshao@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Shen Tong
Wang Jing       (413)549-6919   ejwang@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Wang Yu         (303)494-9684   wangy@rtt.colorado.edu
Xu Datong       (602)628-7981	yiping@ccit.arizona.edu
Zhang Feng      (612)378-2594   zhan0002@student.tc.umn.edu
Zhang Li        (817)548-7357	d259zl@utarlg.uta.edu
Zhou Hongguang  (404)373-8053   labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu


Sinerely,

Dong Liqun(signed)
Chairperson of the IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From:   Liqun Dong, Chair of Council
        Dong Chen, Secretary of Council
To:     IFCSS Council, SVC, HQ, all CSS
Date:   Jan. 12, 1994
Sub:    Call for the 1st IFCSS Council Email Conference

IFCSS Council,
IFCSS SVC,
IFCSS HQ,
CSS,

According to IFCSS Council Bylaw ARTICLE II, Section 1, ARTICLE III,
and after series consultations with members of the Council, this is a
call for the IFCSS Council First Email Conference.  The Email
conference will be held during the time of:

  Start:     6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994
  End:       5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

Enclosed please find a tentative schedule, meeting order and rules.

Council members please report to the meeting by signing and posting
the following message to council network before the meeting starts:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 .......................................................................

Interested public readers are welcome to audit the Conference.  Please
be advised that only council members, the IFCSS HQ and invited guests
are permitted to post on the council working network during the
conference.  Any violation shall result in, without warning, immediate
termination of the access privilege.

To audit the council email network (if you are not already on the
council-l net, please send email to:
        listserv@ifcss.org
with the first line of message of:
        sub council-l firstname lastname
Thank you for your attention.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                  IFCSS Council Email Conference
                              Schedule
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Session Form:       Email conference

Duration:           One week (7 days)

Start Time:         3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994

Proposing Deadline: 3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Saturday, Jan. 15, 1994

Close Debate:       3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994

Conference Adjourns:2:59pm PST or 5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Business Order of the Meeting
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. On adoption of Email Conference Rules and Order of the Meeting;

2. On CPA bidding and voting for the recommendation
        (deadline: 8:00pm PST or 11:00pm EST, Friday, Jan. 14, 1994);

3. On Council members proposals moved before the proposing deadline;

4. On emergency proposals moved after the proposing deadline - see rules;

5. Vote on resolutions.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Temporaray Meeting Agenda
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.  On CPA "bidding"**:  to vote or express own voice;

2.  On Finance Committee's Open Letter: to decide whether temporary and 
       emergent motion is necessary or not, and if yes, what and how;
 
3.  On Proposed Working Meeting: to dicide what issues we should discuss in
         the meeting and to prepare them.

**: deadline for selecting CPA is 8:00pm PST or 11:00pm EST, 
Friday, Jan. 14, 1994.
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     Email Conference Rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.  According to Council Bylaw, Quorum of the meeting is 2/3 of the
    total member of the Council.  Currently, 2/3 of 16 is 11.

2.  According to IFCSS Constitution, resolutions are adopted by vote of
    no less then half of the entire Council membership.

3.  According to Council Bylaw, all council members are required to
    attend the email conference in one of the following two forms:

    a. Post to the Council email network during the conference period;

    b. If no email accounts, a member shall contact, before and during the
       meeting time two or more times with at least one Council member who
       has email access to Council net.  The said member's concern and votes
       shall be forwarded to the council email network.

4.  To be present in the email conference, a council member shall post to the
    Council email network before the Email Conference starts.  According to
    council Bylaw and previous practice, the announcement should be in the
    following form:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 ...........................................................................

5.  Proposals are moved by one or more Council members before the proposing
    deadline.   A second is required for all proposals.

6.  Proposals moved after the deadline can only be accepted through the
    following emergency procedure.  It is the emergency proposal's author's
    responsibility to:

    1. Inform all council members at least 36 hours before the scheduled
       conference closing time;
    2. Receive a second;
    3. Receive at least half council members' approval for admitting the
       emergency proposal to the conference.

7.  Council Secretary shall assign a series number for each proposed
    resolution, and keep an official record of all conference related posts;

8.  All votes shall be posted on the council email network directly within
    the voting period (the last two days of the conference), including
    forwarded votes of members with no email access.

9.  Because of the characteristics of email conference, amendments shall not
    be voted on whether or not to be adopted.  Resolution's original author
    should consider suggestions, changes, etc. seriously, and make
    modifications with other member's help.

10. The validation of an email shall be determined by its posting time.

=============================================================================

Attachments:

1. Recommendation on CPA Bidding (HQ mail in January 10)

2. Resolutions proposed

3. Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)



Dong Liqun              Dong Chen
Chairperson             Secretary
IFCSS Council           IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

**** Subject: Recommendation on CPA Bidding

DATE:     January 10, 1994
TO:       IFCSS Council and SVC
FROM:     IFCSS HQ
SUBJECT:  Recommendation On the CPA Bidding To Professionalize
          the IFCSS Accounting System

Since forwarding the four CPA proposals for the bid to
professionalize the IFCSS accounting system, we have received
many responses and enquiries from members of the Council and SVC.

Based upon the following three criteria:

1.   The professional reputation and experience;
2.   That the firm's proposed service and business profile
closely fit the need of IFCSS as a non-profit organization within
the CSS community;
3.   The cost;

the IFCSS HQ recommends that Jeff W.S. Lin proceed to take up the
task of helping professionalizing the IFCSS accounting system,
which includes (though not limited to):

1.   Compiling all IFCSS financial transactions and records since
and including last term (the fourth term) in accordance with
Statements on Standards for Accounting and Review Services
regarding non-profit organizations issued by the American
Institute of Certified Public Accountants;

2.   Providing Evaluation Report on the general conditions of the
IFCSS accounting system, and on any possible material errors,
irregularities or illegal acts;

3.   Making policy suggestions on IFCSS accounting format,
control and management to promote professionalization.

Here are some of the considerations that lead to our
recommendation:

Mr. Jeff W.S. Lin is a well-established CPA in the DC area. His
company has an efficient staff and a business profile that
closely fit the need of the IFCSS. This is clearly reflected in
his proposal, which we think is the best among the four. Not only
his clients are mostly non-profit organizations like IFCSS, the
National Endowment For Democracy (NED) has hired his company to
conduct external auditings to organizations receiving NED funds.
The quality of his company's professional service is well
recognized in the community here. The company will charge a flat
fee of $2,600 (in two installments) for the service.

Myint & Buntua and Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC are also
well recognized CPA firms in the DC area. Both of them have
strong background in non-profit organizations. However, their
charged fees may be higher than we can afford. Both companies
declined to give a flat fee for the service, but provided
estimated fees ($2,720 by Myint & Buntua and $2,325 by Cohen
Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). If they need to work beyond the
estimated hours, additional fees will be billed at a hourly rate
($80 per additional hour by Myint $ Buntua and $105-200 per
additional hour by Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). Some of
the service (for instance, making control and policy suggestions,
setting formatting procedures) may not be included in the
estimate, and therefore may incur unpredictable hourly fees to
complete.

Terry T. Fang, a CPA entrepreneur, asked a flat fee of $800 for
the service proposed, which is the most economical among the
four. However, his business profile, experience, background and
supporting staff are not as strong as the other three firms.
During the interview with the HQ, he asked far fewer questions
than the other three CPAs regarding the IFCSS accounting. We are
not sure that he fully appreciates the complexity of the IFCSS's
multi-aspects of financial activities. And he is unable to
impress us with the kind of quality service that will satisfy the
IFCSS needs.

The above is our opinion, and you are encouraged to make further
inquiries either to the HQ or to the CPAs directly. As we expect
the designated CPA to complete the aforementioned three tasks
before the Feb 5-6 Working Meeting in DC, we urge the Council to
adopt a resolution of designation as soon as possible. However,
if the Council is unable to reach a vote or verdict by January
14th, the HQ will proceed as this memo has recommended while
continuing to seek the Council's endorsement.

We will arrange to have the designated CPA to meet with each of
you when you come to DC, and to present to the Council and SVC
the re-compiled IFCSS accounts along with evaluation report and
policy suggestions over IFCSS accounting control, format and
management. The HQ is confident that together we may further
reform and refine our accounting system towards greater
professionalization and accountability.

Again, we have attached the four CPAs' original proposals for
your reference. Thank you.

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                        PROPOSAL BY MYINT & BUNTUA
                       Certified Public Accountants
                       5203 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300
                          Falls Church, VA 22041
                            Tel:  (703)845-1555

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Lin Changsheng,

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

we will perform the following services:

I.   Compilation

     we will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheet and the related statements of revenue,
     expenses, fund balances, and cash flows of IFCSS for the
     year ended June 30, 1993. We will not audit or review such
     financial statements. Our report on the annual financial
     statements of IFCSS is presently expected to read as
     follows:

          We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of
          IFCSS, and the related statements of revenue, expenses,
          fund balances and cash flows for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. We have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

Your bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and
any supporting schedules we require.

II.  Federal and State Tax Returns

     We will also prepare the federal tax return 990 for IFCSS
     for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, we will in form you of any material
errors that come to our attention and any irregularities or
illegal acts that come to our attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

     For items I and II, we estimate our fee to be $1,630.

III. Limited Review of Accounting Systems and Procedures

     We will review your current accounting system, procedures
     and administrative controls. We will report on our review
     and provide you with our recommendations.

     Our fee for Item III will be based on the number of hours
     and the staff positions of the individuals assigned. Based
     on our survey, we estimate that we will incur the following:

          Classification           Hours          Amount

          Partner                   2             $  190

          Senior                   20             $  900
                                                  -------
                                                  $1,090

We shall be pleased to discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.

                                   Sincerely,

                                   Ellen Myint, CPA
                                   Partner

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Terry T. Fang
Certified Public Accountant
3328 Monarch Lane
Annandale, VA 22003
(703)560-4520

December 22, 1993

Mr. Changsheng Lin
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, N.W. Suite 440
Washington, D.C. 20005

Dear Mr. Lin:

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

1.   We will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheets and related statements of income, retained
earnings, and cash flow of Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars (IFCSS) for the year ended September 30,
1993. We will not audit or review such financial statements. Our
report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is presently
expected to read as follows:

     "We have compile the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS as
of September 30, 1993, and the related statements of income,
retained earnings, and cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with statements on Standards for Accounting and Review
Services issued by the American Institute of Certified Public
Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
financial statement information this is the representation of
management. We have not audited or reviewed the accompanying
financial statements and, accordingly, do not express an opinion
or any other form of assurance on them."

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation or
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   We will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
account so that he/she will be able to prepare a working trial
balance from which financial statements can be compiled. Your
bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and any
supporting schedules we require.

3.   We will evaluate your current internal control and
accounting system, and make suggestions as necessary.

4.   We will also prepare the federal and state information
returns and income tax returns, if required, for IFCSS for the
fiscal year ended September 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors and
irregularities, including fraud or defalcations, that may exist.
However, we will inform you of irregularities that come to our
attention, unless they are inconsequential.

Our fee for these services is $800.00. We shall be pleased to
discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.


Sincerely yours,



-----------------------
Terry T. Fang, CPA







Acknowledgment:
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars


-----------------------
President



------------
Date


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                         PROPOSAL BY JEFF W.S. LIN
                        Certified Public Accountant
                      414 Hungerford Drive, Suite 236
                            Rockville, MD 20850
                  Tel: (301)762-0479   Fax: (301)309-0479

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington D.C. 20005

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of my engagement and the nature and limitations of the
services I will provide.

I will perform the following services:

1.   I will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheets and the related statements of income and
     retained earnings, of IFCSS for the year ended June 30,
     1993. I will not audit or review such financial statements.
     My report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is
     presently expected to read as follows:

          I have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS
          as of June 30, 1993, and the related statements of
          income and retained earnings, for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          Accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. I have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters.

If, for any reason, I am unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, I will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   I will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
     accounts so that she will be able to prepare a working trial
     balance from which financial statements can be compiled.
     Your bookkeeper will provide me with a detailed trial
     balance and any supporting schedules I require.

3.   I will also prepare the federal and state income tax returns     for 
IFCSS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

My engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, I will inform you of any material errors
that may come to my attention and any irregularities or illegal
acts that come to my attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

My fee for the above services will be a flat fee of $1500.00.

Furthermore, I will conduct a study of the internal control
structure of IFCSS and report the results thereof to you. This
study requires the cooperation from all personnel within the
organization. Again, I will not conduct the audit or review of
the IFCSS's financial statements. The fee for this service will
be $700.00.

At your request, I will also draft up an accounting policy manual
which will be based on my internal control study to spell out the
detail control procedures, the control environment and the
accounting system. The fee for this service will be $400.00.

Based on the conversation we had and the prior engagement I had
with your firm, I firmly believe that the above three (3)
services will enable your organization to run the business in a
more efficient and professional manner and to serve the overseas
Chinese students and scholars most effectively.

Should you have any questions with regard to any of the
aforementioned proposals please do not hesitate to call me.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
along with a check in the amount of $1300.00 (one half of total
fee) to me at your earliest convenience.

                              Sincerely,

                              Jeff W. S. Lin, CPA (signed)



Acknowledged:
IFCSS

_________________________
President

_________________________
Date


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PROPOSAL TO SERVE INDEPENDENT FEDERATION OF CHINESE
STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS

December 27, 1993

COHEN
RUTHERFORD
BLUM&SCHOTT,PC
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

6903 Rockledge Dr. Suite 1330
Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800
Telephone 301-530-2200
Telefax   301-530-3625


December 27,1993

Mr. Xiaozhu Liu
Executive Director
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, NW, Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Liu:

We are pleased to present our proposal to serve the Independent
of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS) as your independent
accountants and business advisors, and we appreciate the
opportunity to have been called upon to respond to your request
for proposal (REP) per our meeting of December 22, 1993. As this
proposal will demonstrate, we are interested in serving IFCSS,
and as an important client of our firm, you can be sure of our
commitment to provide timely, quality services.

Based on our meeting, it is apparent that your management style
coincides with our philosophy concerning client service. As
mentioned to you, member of our firm pride themselves as more
than a "once a year visitor" and can and will respond quickly to
all of your accounting and financial needs. We are interested in
providing advice that will help you make proper business
decisions to effectively and efficiently operate IFCSS. Only with
proper information, obtained on a timely basis, can management be
effective in its role and in maintaining its fiduciary
responsibility in overseeing the operations of IFCSS. I believe
it is important to you and IFCSS to have a full service firm
being integrally involved with your operation. especially as you
expand our operations in fulfilling your mission and purpose in
accordance with your Articles of Incorporation.

Our proposal is structured to emphasize the importance we place
on client service and the service we would deliver to IFCSS, and
to affirm the commitment of our people who will work with you.
IFCSS should expect more than an efficient and quality
compilation from its independent accountants and our philosophy
of client service parallels that expectation. We are confident
that after reviewing our proposal, you will agree that Cohen,
Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the desire and resources to deliver
the level of services required by IFCSS.

FIRM BACKGROUND

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott is a certified public accounting
firm which was formed in the fall of 1980. We have a professional
staff of approximately 25 full-time employees, and our main
office is located at Two Democracy Center, 6903 Rockledge Drive,
Suite 1330, Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800. We currently provide
annual audit, tax, and consulting services to a wide variety of
clients, a significant portion of which are not-for-profit
organizations and associations. In addition to performing audit
and consulting services, our firm provides tax and financial
planning services, accounting assistance, and a wide range of
management advisory consulting services. We are very confident
that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the means, experience,
and expertise to provide the needed services to meet the
requirements of IFCSS.

Because not-for-profit organizations represent a significant
portion of our current clientele, we have kept abreast of all
significant audit and tax changes and proposals affecting the
industry. Since we are involved with the sizable association
network within the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area, we are
very familiar with the unique characteristics of fund accounting
and other relevant aspects affecting accounting, cost
allocations, finance, and administration of these types of
organizations. Several of our current audit clients' operations
would appear to be comparable to IFCSS's, whose revenue,
membership structure and programs are similar to your
organization's.

Our clientele includes organizations who receive, as either
direct recipients or subrecipients, federal assistance of varying
amounts. We are therefore familiar with the government audit
procedures and reporting mechanisms for compliance under the
applicable Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Circulars, if
IFCSS were subject to federal funding requiring an audit.

We have also had principals of the firm volunteer their services
as technical advisors to certain committees or boards of our
clients, as well as serving as board members for nonclients.
Members of our firm have been active participants in chambers of
commerce, the American Society of Association Executives, the
Greater Washington Society of Association Executives, and
numerous other trade associations. We would also like to mention
that our firm underwent a quality review in 1993 performed by an
external, independent accounting firm, the results of which were
very positive and an unmodified report was issued. We are
dedicated to providing the best and broadest professional
services to our clients by utilizing our expertise and knowledge
through a well defined and thoroughly planned work approach and
communication mechanism.

Our firm has also assisted our clients in compensation analysis,
ballot counts, write-up services, preparation of operating and
capital budgets, W-2 and 1099 preparation, staffing analysis,
assessment of computer needs and development of requests for
information and requests for proposals for management information
systems, as well as other areas. We are sure that our experience
and resources can be applied to IFCSS's operations as needed
which may prove to be beneficial to your organization.

SCOPE OF SERVICES AND TIMING

It is our understanding that the scope of services desired by
IFCSS would include a compilation of the accrual basis financial
statements (balance sheet, statements of revenue and expense and
fund balance, and cash flows) as of June 30, 1993 and for the
year then ended, and possibly also future fiscal periods;
preparation of the 1993 annual tax returns (federal Forms 990 and
990T); and various accounting and consulting services as
discussed via the RFP and further outlined below. As mentioned
previously, we confident that we have the resources, expertise,
and the experience to provide quality services essential to meet
your requirements.

A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of financial
statements information that is the representation of management.
You also requested that the compilation includes footnote
disclosures. We will not audit or review such financial
statements. Our report on the annual financial statements of the
Federation is presently expected to read as follows:

     We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet
     of the Independent Federation of Chinese Students
     and Scholars as the June 30, 1993, and the related
statements of  income and expenses and changed in
     fund balance, cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with standards established by the American  Institute
of Certified Public Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form
     of financial statements information that is the
representation of management. We have not audited to   reviewed
the accompanying financial statements and    accordingly, do not
express and opinion or any other
     form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement. At the conclusion of
compilation procedures, we would request certain written
representations from management about your financial statements
and matters related thereto. Our compilation is subject to the
inherent risk that material errors, irregularities, or illegal
acts, including fraud or defalcations, if they exist, would not
be detected. However, we would inform you of any such matters
that come to our attention.

We will actively work with management to anticipate change rather
than merely react to change. We will follow a policy that demands
planning, coordination, and continual communications with key
management personnel of IFCSS, conducting our work at the highest
level of quality at a reasonable cost. Using this approach, IFCSS
will benefit from our wide range of expertise and experience, and
we can be made aware on a timely basis of your needs, problems,
and concerns.

Our services will begin be meeting with you and other key
personnel to thoroughly plan the engagement, develop the client
assistance list, and become familiar with your systems and
procedures. We will utilize to the greatest extent possible
financial and statistical information, workpapers and reports
prepared by you and your personnel and will coordinated our work
with them.

Also, we would prepare and deliver to management a report, after
discussing it with management, which summarizes realistic
recommendations for improving the effectiveness of IFCSS's
accounting, administrative, and operational controls and
procedures, based on our observations and select inquiries of
IFCSS management. However, we will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS, as such a review and evaluation is
not within the scope of this engagement.

The specific timing of the compilation procedures would be worked
out with management based on an agreed-upon schedule. It is
anticipated that the work conducted on-site would not exceed more
than two to three days, and most likely could be achieved within
this period assuming the accounting records are in order and the
client assistance schedule is accurately and thoroughly
completed.

Control Over IFCSS Engagement

The success of any professional engagement depends primarily on
the dedication and abilities of the assigned executives, the
relationships they build with our client's management and staff,
and the selection of the overall audit and consulting team
assigned to the engagement. We believe that we can provide a team
of individuals with the qualities necessary to appropriately and
effectively serve IFCSS as its independent accountants, tax
preparers, and business advisors.

Dan D'Agostino, a principal of the firm, will be the assigned
executive for the engagement. He will be responsible for ensuring
effective planning and staffing, timely performance, continuing
communications, the resolution of questions and potential
problems, and quality control. He will be assisted by a staff
member, most likely Jing Chen who met you at the meeting last
week. Dan has over 19 years experience as a business consultant,
predominantly conducting and managing audit and accounting
engagements as well as numerous and various management advisory
consulting services.

Dan and/or other members of the firm as deemed appropriate will
meet with management during the year to discuss matters affecting
IFCSS as needed to bring important issues to your attention. And,
if any matters requiring assistance do arise during the year, the
executive will have our firm respond quickly and with experienced
personnel.

Elliot Blum is a principal responsible for the firms' tax
practice and he will coordinate the tax services to IFCSS. In
this role he will have the responsibility for ensuring timely
and complete preparation of the tax returns (Federal Forms 990
and 990T), and will ensure that ample time is allotted to review
all tax returns with you in advance of the filing dates. He will
be assisted by members of the firm's tax division, who will also
be available to respond to tax questions or issues and provide
tax planning as the need arises.

Our firm also has two full-time consultants who are solely
dedicated to management information systems and are very
knowledgeable of computer programming, applications and operating
systems. Other consultants of the firm as involved with numerous
other consulting activities. We will draw upon their expertise as
deemed necessary throughout the audit engagement, and in other
services that may be needed and requested by IFCSS throughout the
fiscal period.

PROFESSIONAL FEES AND EXPENSES

As mentioned during our meeting, we would prefer to have IFCSS as
a client over a long term, and since we want to develop a
positive client relationship with IFCSS that we believe would be
mutually rewarding, we have taken the liberty to present a fee
arrangement for not only the 1993 fiscal period, but also for
1994 and 1995. You will note that the fees for the three year
engagement are thus discounted, and average over the term os as
not to have a significantly higher fee in the first  year that
would otherwise be the case.

Based upon the scope of services described above, we propose to
perform the aforementioned services applicable to IFCSS's fiscal
years for the following respective fees:

                              Compilation and Tax
   One year
   Engagement     1993        $2,325

   Multiple Year  1993        $2,200
   Engagement     1994        $2,225
                  1995        $2,450

================================================
          Three Year
          Engagement Total    $6,675

The above quoted fees are based on anticipated hours by level of
personnel, with a discounted hourly rate from our standard hourly
rates per hour for the three year engagement since we are
desirous of having IFCSS as a client over at least the three year
term. The fee also assumes the scope of services or the structure
of the organization does not significantly change during the
first three year period. This implies that IFCSS would not be
subject to government auditing standards or OMB requirements.
Out-of-pocket expenses, which include travel, parking courier
services, copying, fax, etc., are billed as incurred and normally
are about 5% to 7% of professional fees.

The above fees are also based on the assumption that all
necessary information is made available to us during the
engagement(s) and that we receive maximum client assistance as
required. This would include typing of select confirmations if
deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required financial and tax
information, preparation of all bank reconciliations and
requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule, etc.

Receiving maximum assistance allows us to minimize costs to our
clients as well as to allow you to develop a better understanding
of the specific detail required to be obtained from your records
to support your financial statements and tax returns. We will
work with you in developing a client assistance list prior to
commencing field work and in reaching a mutually agreed upon
timetable for providing us the required information.

If you require special assistance during the engagements in
reconciling or analyzing accounts, or in completing the client
assistance workpapers, we would provide estimates and bill
separately for these services based on our standard hourly
consulting rates, which vary by level of personnel.

Specific accounting assistance or tax consultation outside the
scope of services as described above (for instance: Assistance
and/or preparation of journal entries, assistance with
depreciation lapse schedules, cash, receivable or payable
reconciliations, tax advice and consultation or dealings with the
IRS outside the realm of the  actual annual tax return
preparation) would also be billed at our standard hourly rates.

Other accounting services which may be needed by IFCSS would be
billed at our standard hourly rates. As mentioned earlier, these
rates vary depending upon job category and are typically adjusted
annually on February 1. For your information, our current hourly
rates are as follows:

          Job Categories           Hourly Rates
          --------------           ------------

          principal                $ 105 - $ 200
          Manager                     80 -   110
          Senior-Supervisor           50 -   100
          Staff                       40 -    80
          Paraprofessional            60 -    80

We would require an engagement agreement and letter of
understanding to be signed by IFCSS upon acceptance of our
proposal and before services would begin. The agreement could
include, but not be necessarily limited to, description of the
engagement, fees, conditions of payment, retainer requirements
(we  normally require a deposit form new clients prior to the
commencement of services up to one-half of the annual fee),
deadlines for reports, etc.

For your information, the attached Appendix A lists client
references, the majority of which are not-for-profit associations
comparable to IFCSS in terms of accounting and tax engagement
scope of  services. Additional references will be made available
upon request. We have made every effort to provide realistic fee
estimates, and if you have any questions regarding the details of
our proposed fees, please contact us as we would appreciate the
opportunity to discuss them with you to reach a mutually
agreeable fee arrangement.

In conclusion, we appreciate this opportunity to have been
solicited to respond to your request for proposal and to submit a
proposal to serve as your independent accountants. We are
confident that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the required
staff who are qualified through education, training and
experience, the necessary support resources, and the enthusiasm
to conduct the required compilations, consulting and tax services
in a satisfactory, timely and efficient manner. We welcome the
opportunity to work with the Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars and look forward to hearing from you. If
you have any questions or require additional information, please
feel free to contact me at 301/530-2200.


Very truly yours,

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, P.C.

By: Dan D'Agostino, CPA (signed)
    Principal
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**** Resolutions proposed

[CP5026]
        Resolution on inactivating the Finance Committee
                by Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        1) IFCSS Council Committees are elected and responsible for the
           Council. The Finance Committee neither got consent from nor
           informed other Council members before the releasing of recent
           open letter to the CSS. Such irresponsible action violated
           the basic right of other council members,
        2) A IFCSS Working Meeting is to be held Feb. 5-6, 1994 at Washington,
           D.C. and a professional review of both external and internal
           finance status is to be reviewed by CPA. All Council members,
           SVC members and other CSS will have the opportunity to thoroughly
           check and question HQ's operations in the past and future,
        3) The dispute between Finance Committee and HQ is getting too
           emotional, and a normal professional relationship between Council
           Finance Committee and HQ is not possible to keep at this time,

        Be it resolved that,

        temporally inactivate the Finance Committee and its inspection team
        until further discussion of Council.


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[CP5027]
        Amendment to Council Bylaw
                By Liang, Er/Dong Chen

        Whereas that the council committees are elected by the Council;
        that the committees' privilege is granted by the council;
        that the council is responsible for the committees' action;

        Amend that,

        To the Council Bylaw, in article IV, after the first sentence,
        "...shall have and may exercise the powers of the Council in
         management of the business and affairs of the Council."
        add the following,

        "The committees must inform and get consent from the Council
         for any of their activities outside the Council.

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[CP5028]
        Resolution on open the "finance-net" to the Council
                By Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        The Finance Committee is elected and responsible for the
        Council; many council members were not inform enough for the
        Finance Committee's recent action; the Finance Committee has
        set up a network for their routine work,

        Be it resolved that,

        Finance Committee open the "finance-net" to all Council members
        include its archived files.

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**** Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)

Dear colleague,

     As this is the first email conference we have, I think it is
necessary to me to explain how the procedure should go. Please notice
this is only my own understanding and suggestion after consulting with
other people who have more experience in this matter. Please do voice
your suggestions.

[sign on]

     First we should sign on the net as soon as possible by sending
mail to "council-l@ifcss.org". In fact, you should sign on now.

[deadline]

     Then start from 6:00pm EST, Jan. 13, you can post your
discussion and vote to the net. Please notice the deadlines, i.e.
        - 11:00pm EST, Jan. 14 for vote of the CPA
        - 6:00pm  EST, Jan. 15 for proposing new resolutions
        - 5:59pm  EST, Jan. 20 for vote of all resolutions.

[vote]

     You can vote any resolutions as soon as the meeting starts.

     Please refer to the series number of the resolution (CP50**) when
you need to mention the resolution.

     Please post you discussion and vote as soon as you can. Don't wait
until the deadline, although I will try to remind you to vote in the
last two days of the meeting.

     You can vote for one issue at a time or combine all of them together.
Please write clearly which resolution you are talking/voting.

     All resolutions have to be voted, there is no unanimous consent.

[writing]

     For clarity, I suggest we write the subject line in this format:
        Subject: [area]<your name> message title
where [area] can be [vote],[discussion],[CP5026],[motion] etc.
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Subject: [discussion]<Dong Chen> Who is responsible for the open letter?

     For rules that not defined in the order of the meeting, we should
follow the Robert Rule of Order.
     I suggest everybody check your email at least once per day.

Dong Chen



          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
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/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Call for the emergancy e-mail meeting.
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Dear council members:

     Until now, only six of our council members have signed for their 
presentation of the e-mail meeting. They are Ren Songlin, Chen Dong, 
Zhang Li, Xu Datong, Fan Hongran, and Dong Liqun. Please send the the 
notice of the presentation to me or give me a call soon. 



Liqun Dong


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 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   * I entrust Songlin Ren post my mail to the Net.
   * The e-mail address is -> songlin@buphy.bu.edu

   Liang, Er (Signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  North west

 .......................................................................



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Some of council members complain that they did not receive email from
this network. So, if you can receive this email, please response.
BTW, you need to send a mail to this net to confirm that you are reading
email for the meeting anyway.
Mean while I am sending a private mail to some of you as comparison.

Dong,
          __                                         Mail address:
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  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
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 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
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> Dear fellow council members:
> 	First I like to thank council member Dong Chen for his effort to
> organize this e-mail meeting. We are now at a critical moment of our term
> as 5th IFCSS council member. It will also be a critical moment of IFCSS
> history. We hope this will be an important moment to be remembered in our
> pursuit of democracy, as we begin to truly understand the word
> democracy and to apply it to our daily practice. 
> 	I think everybody must still remember at the 5th IFCSS congress, 
> people were thinking, debating. People were all asking the same question what
> will be the fate of IFCSS after CSPA? We were all worried about the future of 
> this community of Chinese students and scholars. We were all confused about
> how IFCSS going to play its role in the future of this ever larger and more 
> diversified community. But one thing was crystal clear in the mind of every 
> single one of us, that is we need a CHANGE. We were elected for this term of 
> change. we are mandated by the fellow students and scholars that voted for
> us to bring change to IFCSS, to its cause, to its structure, and most 
> importantly to the way it is operated. Lets ask ourselves what 
> changes we have brought after half of term has passed?
> 	I remember one conversation I had with Dr. Chen Ming, an IFCSS veteran 
> from the very beginning. He said the IFCSS was founded at the tragic
> incidence of June 4th, under the anger against the undemocratic way that
> the Chinese government was governing the country, we were disgusted by the
> killing of the students simply because they were concerned, they wanted to
> know, they wanted to be involved. But it is only now, after four years, we
> just begin to understand the true meaning of Democracy.  
> 	What is it? What is the meaning of this magic word? The word that 
> everybody in this world all claim that he is for it. Webster's dictionary
> defines it as following "Democracy, govern by people or their
> representatives". aha! We are claiming we are democratic, in fact this is
> the most important cause that brought us together. Have we lived up to the 
> spirit of democracy? Are we open to the people that we are representing? 
> are the ones that we voted open to us? If people are not informed how
> they can govern? In our case, if the entire students and scholars community
> is not well informed how their opinions can be reflected in the policy
> of IFCSS and how the operation of the IFCSS can be towards their needs and
> demands?
> 	We are trying to bring some changes to IFCSS. For the past several
> months, the financial reform task force have been trying extremely hard to
> change the budgeting and accounting system of IFCSS which allowed many
> financial disasters, like Zhao Haiqin's incidence, to happen so many times
> in the short 4 years history of IFCSS. It is overwhelmingly considered a
> necessary thing to do among the students and scholars' community. It is also 
> a consensus among us that we must straight this mess out. But why we have
> been experiencing such a resistance if we are acting according people we
> represent. Who is fighting so fiercefuly against bringing this change to
> our organization using every means they can possibly use. After all
> these frustration, the financial committee decided to take the case to the
> public. To released a letter to the community that compiles all the questions
> that were asked during the second teleconference, the questions that are
> not answered by our executive branch. This letter induced a series debates 
> among the CSS community. 
> 	The debate among us in the council is not really on the financial
> reform, of which we all agree, we all know changes should be made. The debate
> among us is about whether we should let people, the people that we are 
> representing, KNOW! about the SECRECY OF IFCSS OPERATION! It is on this issue 
> our opinion diverged. Should we let them know? or should we not? To the ones 
> that still remembers the definition of democracy, the question is 
> self-explanatory. Not only there is nothing wrong with letting people
> know, in the contrary this is what we should do and have to do. Some
> people may argue, we would let people know at the end, when things are
> settled. No! The CSS community has every right to know at every stage of
> development. THIS IS A MATTER ABOUT OPENNESS AND SECRECY! THIS IS A MATTER
> ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLE! Secrecy of the IFCSS operation is the
> biggest single enemy that will jeopardize the future of IFCSS as a democratic
> organization.   
> 	During the 5th congress, all the representatives voted for the
> expansion of exchange between oversea students and people in China. We all
> know this is a big inevitable in the new era after CSPA and during China's
> economical reform. But we also know this is a very complicated issue.
> Political situation has not been changed in any great extend in China. We
> decided to pursuit exchange, because we understand that China need to catch the
> wave of economical development, we believe the economical reform will
> bring about deeper and more profound changes in China. Now, we glad the HQ
> had made first step. But at the same time, given the importance
> and touchyness of this undertaking, we are terribly dispointed that
> council was not informed before this was happened. No plan had been worked
> out between the council and HQ on how IFCSS going to stand 
> that can represent the interests of the whole community. Instead to do it
> prepared and intelligently, we did that in a unprepared, unintelligent,
> unprofessional fashion. We council members are rather unhappy about that.
> 	What is wrong? why all these are happening? All because the SECRECY in 
> our operation. The HQ is trying to keep the council in dark and our
> council is trying to keep the public in dark. Every body is working
> against each other, and for God's sake, under the name of protecting
> IFCSS. We all know a healthy body is a body that metablize, a body that
> knows what to absorb and what to discharge. A brain can  not be alive
> without the rest of the body parts.  A organization can not be well and
> healthy without all the components work together, without every part of it
> being informed and in cooperation. Lets remember from the by-law that
> IFCSS is a organization that represents the entire community of students 
> and scholars,our cause is to promote democracy. So, the students and
> scholars are within the IFCSS, and they are the IFCSS, they are the ones 
> should be informed and they are the ones who should govern.
> 	Dear members of the council, we are here because we wanted to do
> good things for our people. As we always say, good motivation isn't enough.
> Lets give up the old ways of thinking that already become the warm bed for
> the secrecy in operation. We need to dislose when there is a problem, we
> need to confront when it is a matter of principle. Thank you.
>    
> 
> 
>                                                       Cheng Liu    
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> 


          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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Status: RO

Hello, everybody,
	I just checked the listserv. Now, we should have all council
members' account in the net. (With Liang Er and Shen Tong as exception.)
Please note that you can only *send* mail from the addresses listed below.
If you prefer use other address, please let me know.

Please pay attention to the deadlines in the schedule.

Dong Chen,

====================================================================
Dear IFCSS Members:

     The following is the call for the first IFCSS Council Email
Conference, a special meeting. Please send your opinions to 
"council@ifcss.org".

Council members, please check to see if your phone and email address is
correct. If there are any problem, send mail to "council@ifcss.org".

Chen Dong       (301)405-5425   dong@fuzzy.umd.edu
Ding Yungui     (515)296-7691   DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov
Dong Liqun      (206)323-5529   dlq@u.washington.edu
Fan Hongran     (305)326-8902   hfan@newssun.med.miami.edu
Liang Er        (415)751-3606	jing@physics.usfca.edu
Liu Chen        (518)427-5883   liuc@violet.ph.albany.edu
Qi Bing         (716)292-0033   BGQI@medinfo.rochester.edu
Ren Songlin     (617)773-2753   songlin@buphy.bu.edu
Shao Qing       (703)951-9697   qshao@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Shen Tong
Wang Jing       (413)549-6919   ejwang@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Wang Yu         (303)494-9684   wangy@rtt.colorado.edu
Xu Datong       (602)628-7981	yiping@ccit.arizona.edu
Zhang Feng      (612)378-2594   zhan0002@student.tc.umn.edu
Zhang Li        (817)548-7357	d259zl@utarlg.uta.edu
Zhou Hongguang  (404)373-8053   labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu


Sinerely,

Dong Liqun(signed)
Chairperson of the IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From:   Liqun Dong, Chair of Council
        Dong Chen, Secretary of Council
To:     IFCSS Council, SVC, HQ, all CSS
Date:   Jan. 12, 1994
Sub:    Call for the 1st IFCSS Council Email Conference

IFCSS Council,
IFCSS SVC,
IFCSS HQ,
CSS,

According to IFCSS Council Bylaw ARTICLE II, Section 1, ARTICLE III,
and after series consultations with members of the Council, this is a
call for the IFCSS Council First Email Conference.  The Email
conference will be held during the time of:

  Start:     6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994
  End:       5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

Enclosed please find a tentative schedule, meeting order and rules.

Council members please report to the meeting by signing and posting
the following message to council network before the meeting starts:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 .......................................................................

Interested public readers are welcome to audit the Conference.  Please
be advised that only council members, the IFCSS HQ and invited guests
are permitted to post on the council working network during the
conference.  Any violation shall result in, without warning, immediate
termination of the access privilege.

To audit the council email network (if you are not already on the
council-l net, please send email to:
        listserv@ifcss.org
with the first line of message of:
        sub council-l firstname lastname
Thank you for your attention.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                  IFCSS Council Email Conference
                              Schedule
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Session Form:       Email conference

Duration:           One week (7 days)

Start Time:         3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994

Proposing Deadline: 3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Saturday, Jan. 15, 1994

Close Debate:       3:00pm PST or 6:00pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994

Conference Adjourns:2:59pm PST or 5:59pm EST, Thursday, Jan. 20, 1994.

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                 Business Order of the Meeting
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. On adoption of Email Conference Rules and Order of the Meeting;

2. On CPA bidding and voting for the recommendation
        (deadline: 8:00pm PST or 11:00pm EST, Friday, Jan. 14, 1994);

3. On Council members proposals moved before the proposing deadline;

4. On emergency proposals moved after the proposing deadline - see rules;

5. Vote on resolutions.


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                    Temporaray Meeting Agenda
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.  On CPA "bidding"**:  to vote or express own voice;

2.  On Finance Committee's Open Letter: to decide whether temporary and 
       emergent motion is necessary or not, and if yes, what and how;
 
3.  On Proposed Working Meeting: to dicide what issues we should discuss in
         the meeting and to prepare them.

**: deadline for selecting CPA is 8:00pm PST or 11:00pm EST, 
Friday, Jan. 14, 1994.
 
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                     Email Conference Rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.  According to Council Bylaw, Quorum of the meeting is 2/3 of the
    total member of the Council.  Currently, 2/3 of 16 is 11.

2.  According to IFCSS Constitution, resolutions are adopted by vote of
    no less then half of the entire Council membership.

3.  According to Council Bylaw, all council members are required to
    attend the email conference in one of the following two forms:

    a. Post to the Council email network during the conference period;

    b. If no email accounts, a member shall contact, before and during the
       meeting time two or more times with at least one Council member who
       has email access to Council net.  The said member's concern and votes
       shall be forwarded to the council email network.

4.  To be present in the email conference, a council member shall post to the
    Council email network before the Email Conference starts.  According to
    council Bylaw and previous practice, the announcement should be in the
    following form:

 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 ...........................................................................

5.  Proposals are moved by one or more Council members before the proposing
    deadline.   A second is required for all proposals.

6.  Proposals moved after the deadline can only be accepted through the
    following emergency procedure.  It is the emergency proposal's author's
    responsibility to:

    1. Inform all council members at least 36 hours before the scheduled
       conference closing time;
    2. Receive a second;
    3. Receive at least half council members' approval for admitting the
       emergency proposal to the conference.

7.  Council Secretary shall assign a series number for each proposed
    resolution, and keep an official record of all conference related posts;

8.  All votes shall be posted on the council email network directly within
    the voting period (the last two days of the conference), including
    forwarded votes of members with no email access.

9.  Because of the characteristics of email conference, amendments shall not
    be voted on whether or not to be adopted.  Resolution's original author
    should consider suggestions, changes, etc. seriously, and make
    modifications with other member's help.

10. The validation of an email shall be determined by its posting time.

=============================================================================

Attachments:

1. Recommendation on CPA Bidding (HQ mail in January 10)

2. Resolutions proposed

3. Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)



Dong Liqun              Dong Chen
Chairperson             Secretary
IFCSS Council           IFCSS Council

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

**** Subject: Recommendation on CPA Bidding

DATE:     January 10, 1994
TO:       IFCSS Council and SVC
FROM:     IFCSS HQ
SUBJECT:  Recommendation On the CPA Bidding To Professionalize
          the IFCSS Accounting System

Since forwarding the four CPA proposals for the bid to
professionalize the IFCSS accounting system, we have received
many responses and enquiries from members of the Council and SVC.

Based upon the following three criteria:

1.   The professional reputation and experience;
2.   That the firm's proposed service and business profile
closely fit the need of IFCSS as a non-profit organization within
the CSS community;
3.   The cost;

the IFCSS HQ recommends that Jeff W.S. Lin proceed to take up the
task of helping professionalizing the IFCSS accounting system,
which includes (though not limited to):

1.   Compiling all IFCSS financial transactions and records since
and including last term (the fourth term) in accordance with
Statements on Standards for Accounting and Review Services
regarding non-profit organizations issued by the American
Institute of Certified Public Accountants;

2.   Providing Evaluation Report on the general conditions of the
IFCSS accounting system, and on any possible material errors,
irregularities or illegal acts;

3.   Making policy suggestions on IFCSS accounting format,
control and management to promote professionalization.

Here are some of the considerations that lead to our
recommendation:

Mr. Jeff W.S. Lin is a well-established CPA in the DC area. His
company has an efficient staff and a business profile that
closely fit the need of the IFCSS. This is clearly reflected in
his proposal, which we think is the best among the four. Not only
his clients are mostly non-profit organizations like IFCSS, the
National Endowment For Democracy (NED) has hired his company to
conduct external auditings to organizations receiving NED funds.
The quality of his company's professional service is well
recognized in the community here. The company will charge a flat
fee of $2,600 (in two installments) for the service.

Myint & Buntua and Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC are also
well recognized CPA firms in the DC area. Both of them have
strong background in non-profit organizations. However, their
charged fees may be higher than we can afford. Both companies
declined to give a flat fee for the service, but provided
estimated fees ($2,720 by Myint & Buntua and $2,325 by Cohen
Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). If they need to work beyond the
estimated hours, additional fees will be billed at a hourly rate
($80 per additional hour by Myint $ Buntua and $105-200 per
additional hour by Cohen Rutherford Blum & Schott, PC). Some of
the service (for instance, making control and policy suggestions,
setting formatting procedures) may not be included in the
estimate, and therefore may incur unpredictable hourly fees to
complete.

Terry T. Fang, a CPA entrepreneur, asked a flat fee of $800 for
the service proposed, which is the most economical among the
four. However, his business profile, experience, background and
supporting staff are not as strong as the other three firms.
During the interview with the HQ, he asked far fewer questions
than the other three CPAs regarding the IFCSS accounting. We are
not sure that he fully appreciates the complexity of the IFCSS's
multi-aspects of financial activities. And he is unable to
impress us with the kind of quality service that will satisfy the
IFCSS needs.

The above is our opinion, and you are encouraged to make further
inquiries either to the HQ or to the CPAs directly. As we expect
the designated CPA to complete the aforementioned three tasks
before the Feb 5-6 Working Meeting in DC, we urge the Council to
adopt a resolution of designation as soon as possible. However,
if the Council is unable to reach a vote or verdict by January
14th, the HQ will proceed as this memo has recommended while
continuing to seek the Council's endorsement.

We will arrange to have the designated CPA to meet with each of
you when you come to DC, and to present to the Council and SVC
the re-compiled IFCSS accounts along with evaluation report and
policy suggestions over IFCSS accounting control, format and
management. The HQ is confident that together we may further
reform and refine our accounting system towards greater
professionalization and accountability.

Again, we have attached the four CPAs' original proposals for
your reference. Thank you.

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                        PROPOSAL BY MYINT & BUNTUA
                       Certified Public Accountants
                       5203 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300
                          Falls Church, VA 22041
                            Tel:  (703)845-1555

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Lin Changsheng,

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

we will perform the following services:

I.   Compilation

     we will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheet and the related statements of revenue,
     expenses, fund balances, and cash flows of IFCSS for the
     year ended June 30, 1993. We will not audit or review such
     financial statements. Our report on the annual financial
     statements of IFCSS is presently expected to read as
     follows:

          We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of
          IFCSS, and the related statements of revenue, expenses,
          fund balances and cash flows for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. We have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

Your bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and
any supporting schedules we require.

II.  Federal and State Tax Returns

     We will also prepare the federal tax return 990 for IFCSS
     for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, we will in form you of any material
errors that come to our attention and any irregularities or
illegal acts that come to our attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

     For items I and II, we estimate our fee to be $1,630.

III. Limited Review of Accounting Systems and Procedures

     We will review your current accounting system, procedures
     and administrative controls. We will report on our review
     and provide you with our recommendations.

     Our fee for Item III will be based on the number of hours
     and the staff positions of the individuals assigned. Based
     on our survey, we estimate that we will incur the following:

          Classification           Hours          Amount

          Partner                   2             $  190

          Senior                   20             $  900
                                                  -------
                                                  $1,090

We shall be pleased to discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.

                                   Sincerely,

                                   Ellen Myint, CPA
                                   Partner

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Terry T. Fang
Certified Public Accountant
3328 Monarch Lane
Annandale, VA 22003
(703)560-4520

December 22, 1993

Mr. Changsheng Lin
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, N.W. Suite 440
Washington, D.C. 20005

Dear Mr. Lin:

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of our engagement and the nature and limitations of
the services we will provide.

1.   We will compile, from information you provide, the annual
balance sheets and related statements of income, retained
earnings, and cash flow of Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars (IFCSS) for the year ended September 30,
1993. We will not audit or review such financial statements. Our
report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is presently
expected to read as follows:

     "We have compile the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS as
of September 30, 1993, and the related statements of income,
retained earnings, and cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with statements on Standards for Accounting and Review
Services issued by the American Institute of Certified Public
Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
financial statement information this is the representation of
management. We have not audited or reviewed the accompanying
financial statements and, accordingly, do not express an opinion
or any other form of assurance on them."

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation or
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   We will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
account so that he/she will be able to prepare a working trial
balance from which financial statements can be compiled. Your
bookkeeper will provide us with a detailed trial balance and any
supporting schedules we require.

3.   We will evaluate your current internal control and
accounting system, and make suggestions as necessary.

4.   We will also prepare the federal and state information
returns and income tax returns, if required, for IFCSS for the
fiscal year ended September 30, 1993.

Our engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors and
irregularities, including fraud or defalcations, that may exist.
However, we will inform you of irregularities that come to our
attention, unless they are inconsequential.

Our fee for these services is $800.00. We shall be pleased to
discuss this letter with you at any time.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
to us.


Sincerely yours,



-----------------------
Terry T. Fang, CPA







Acknowledgment:
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars


-----------------------
President



------------
Date


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                         PROPOSAL BY JEFF W.S. LIN
                        Certified Public Accountant
                      414 Hungerford Drive, Suite 236
                            Rockville, MD 20850
                  Tel: (301)762-0479   Fax: (301)309-0479

IFCSS
733 15th Street, NW
Suite 440
Washington D.C. 20005

This letter is to confirm our understanding of the terms and
objectives of my engagement and the nature and limitations of the
services I will provide.

I will perform the following services:

1.   I will compile, from information you provide, the annual
     balance sheets and the related statements of income and
     retained earnings, of IFCSS for the year ended June 30,
     1993. I will not audit or review such financial statements.
     My report on the annual financial statements of IFCSS is
     presently expected to read as follows:

          I have compiled the accompanying balance sheet of IFCSS
          as of June 30, 1993, and the related statements of
          income and retained earnings, for the year then ended,
          in accordance with Statements on Standards for
          Accounting and Review Services issued by the American
          Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

          A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of
          financial statements information that is the
          representation of management. I have not audited or
          reviewed the accompanying financial statements and,
          accordingly, do not express an opinion or any other
          form of assurance on them.

If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters.

If, for any reason, I am unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, I will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement.

2.   I will assist your bookkeeper in adjusting the books of
     accounts so that she will be able to prepare a working trial
     balance from which financial statements can be compiled.
     Your bookkeeper will provide me with a detailed trial
     balance and any supporting schedules I require.

3.   I will also prepare the federal and state income tax returns     for 
IFCSS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1993.

My engagement cannot be relied upon to disclose errors,
irregularities, or illegal acts, including fraud or defalcations,
that may exist. However, I will inform you of any material errors
that may come to my attention and any irregularities or illegal
acts that come to my attention, unless they are clearly
inconsequential.

My fee for the above services will be a flat fee of $1500.00.

Furthermore, I will conduct a study of the internal control
structure of IFCSS and report the results thereof to you. This
study requires the cooperation from all personnel within the
organization. Again, I will not conduct the audit or review of
the IFCSS's financial statements. The fee for this service will
be $700.00.

At your request, I will also draft up an accounting policy manual
which will be based on my internal control study to spell out the
detail control procedures, the control environment and the
accounting system. The fee for this service will be $400.00.

Based on the conversation we had and the prior engagement I had
with your firm, I firmly believe that the above three (3)
services will enable your organization to run the business in a
more efficient and professional manner and to serve the overseas
Chinese students and scholars most effectively.

Should you have any questions with regard to any of the
aforementioned proposals please do not hesitate to call me.

If the foregoing is in accordance with your understanding, please
sign the copy of this letter in the space provided and return it
along with a check in the amount of $1300.00 (one half of total
fee) to me at your earliest convenience.

                              Sincerely,

                              Jeff W. S. Lin, CPA (signed)



Acknowledged:
IFCSS

_________________________
President

_________________________
Date


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PROPOSAL TO SERVE INDEPENDENT FEDERATION OF CHINESE
STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS

December 27, 1993

COHEN
RUTHERFORD
BLUM&SCHOTT,PC
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

6903 Rockledge Dr. Suite 1330
Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800
Telephone 301-530-2200
Telefax   301-530-3625


December 27,1993

Mr. Xiaozhu Liu
Executive Director
Independent Federation of
Chinese Students and Scholars
733 15th Street, NW, Suite 440
Washington DC 20005

Dear Mr. Liu:

We are pleased to present our proposal to serve the Independent
of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS) as your independent
accountants and business advisors, and we appreciate the
opportunity to have been called upon to respond to your request
for proposal (REP) per our meeting of December 22, 1993. As this
proposal will demonstrate, we are interested in serving IFCSS,
and as an important client of our firm, you can be sure of our
commitment to provide timely, quality services.

Based on our meeting, it is apparent that your management style
coincides with our philosophy concerning client service. As
mentioned to you, member of our firm pride themselves as more
than a "once a year visitor" and can and will respond quickly to
all of your accounting and financial needs. We are interested in
providing advice that will help you make proper business
decisions to effectively and efficiently operate IFCSS. Only with
proper information, obtained on a timely basis, can management be
effective in its role and in maintaining its fiduciary
responsibility in overseeing the operations of IFCSS. I believe
it is important to you and IFCSS to have a full service firm
being integrally involved with your operation. especially as you
expand our operations in fulfilling your mission and purpose in
accordance with your Articles of Incorporation.

Our proposal is structured to emphasize the importance we place
on client service and the service we would deliver to IFCSS, and
to affirm the commitment of our people who will work with you.
IFCSS should expect more than an efficient and quality
compilation from its independent accountants and our philosophy
of client service parallels that expectation. We are confident
that after reviewing our proposal, you will agree that Cohen,
Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the desire and resources to deliver
the level of services required by IFCSS.

FIRM BACKGROUND

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott is a certified public accounting
firm which was formed in the fall of 1980. We have a professional
staff of approximately 25 full-time employees, and our main
office is located at Two Democracy Center, 6903 Rockledge Drive,
Suite 1330, Bethesda, Maryland 20817-1800. We currently provide
annual audit, tax, and consulting services to a wide variety of
clients, a significant portion of which are not-for-profit
organizations and associations. In addition to performing audit
and consulting services, our firm provides tax and financial
planning services, accounting assistance, and a wide range of
management advisory consulting services. We are very confident
that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the means, experience,
and expertise to provide the needed services to meet the
requirements of IFCSS.

Because not-for-profit organizations represent a significant
portion of our current clientele, we have kept abreast of all
significant audit and tax changes and proposals affecting the
industry. Since we are involved with the sizable association
network within the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan area, we are
very familiar with the unique characteristics of fund accounting
and other relevant aspects affecting accounting, cost
allocations, finance, and administration of these types of
organizations. Several of our current audit clients' operations
would appear to be comparable to IFCSS's, whose revenue,
membership structure and programs are similar to your
organization's.

Our clientele includes organizations who receive, as either
direct recipients or subrecipients, federal assistance of varying
amounts. We are therefore familiar with the government audit
procedures and reporting mechanisms for compliance under the
applicable Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Circulars, if
IFCSS were subject to federal funding requiring an audit.

We have also had principals of the firm volunteer their services
as technical advisors to certain committees or boards of our
clients, as well as serving as board members for nonclients.
Members of our firm have been active participants in chambers of
commerce, the American Society of Association Executives, the
Greater Washington Society of Association Executives, and
numerous other trade associations. We would also like to mention
that our firm underwent a quality review in 1993 performed by an
external, independent accounting firm, the results of which were
very positive and an unmodified report was issued. We are
dedicated to providing the best and broadest professional
services to our clients by utilizing our expertise and knowledge
through a well defined and thoroughly planned work approach and
communication mechanism.

Our firm has also assisted our clients in compensation analysis,
ballot counts, write-up services, preparation of operating and
capital budgets, W-2 and 1099 preparation, staffing analysis,
assessment of computer needs and development of requests for
information and requests for proposals for management information
systems, as well as other areas. We are sure that our experience
and resources can be applied to IFCSS's operations as needed
which may prove to be beneficial to your organization.

SCOPE OF SERVICES AND TIMING

It is our understanding that the scope of services desired by
IFCSS would include a compilation of the accrual basis financial
statements (balance sheet, statements of revenue and expense and
fund balance, and cash flows) as of June 30, 1993 and for the
year then ended, and possibly also future fiscal periods;
preparation of the 1993 annual tax returns (federal Forms 990 and
990T); and various accounting and consulting services as
discussed via the RFP and further outlined below. As mentioned
previously, we confident that we have the resources, expertise,
and the experience to provide quality services essential to meet
your requirements.

A compilation is limited to presenting in the form of financial
statements information that is the representation of management.
You also requested that the compilation includes footnote
disclosures. We will not audit or review such financial
statements. Our report on the annual financial statements of the
Federation is presently expected to read as follows:

     We have compiled the accompanying balance sheet
     of the Independent Federation of Chinese Students
     and Scholars as the June 30, 1993, and the related
statements of  income and expenses and changed in
     fund balance, cash flows for the year then ended, in
accordance with standards established by the American  Institute
of Certified Public Accountants.

     A compilation is limited to presenting in the form
     of financial statements information that is the
representation of management. We have not audited to   reviewed
the accompanying financial statements and    accordingly, do not
express and opinion or any other
     form of assurance on them.

If, for any reason, we are unable to complete the compilation of
your financial statements, we will not issue a report on such
statements as a result of this engagement. At the conclusion of
compilation procedures, we would request certain written
representations from management about your financial statements
and matters related thereto. Our compilation is subject to the
inherent risk that material errors, irregularities, or illegal
acts, including fraud or defalcations, if they exist, would not
be detected. However, we would inform you of any such matters
that come to our attention.

We will actively work with management to anticipate change rather
than merely react to change. We will follow a policy that demands
planning, coordination, and continual communications with key
management personnel of IFCSS, conducting our work at the highest
level of quality at a reasonable cost. Using this approach, IFCSS
will benefit from our wide range of expertise and experience, and
we can be made aware on a timely basis of your needs, problems,
and concerns.

Our services will begin be meeting with you and other key
personnel to thoroughly plan the engagement, develop the client
assistance list, and become familiar with your systems and
procedures. We will utilize to the greatest extent possible
financial and statistical information, workpapers and reports
prepared by you and your personnel and will coordinated our work
with them.

Also, we would prepare and deliver to management a report, after
discussing it with management, which summarizes realistic
recommendations for improving the effectiveness of IFCSS's
accounting, administrative, and operational controls and
procedures, based on our observations and select inquiries of
IFCSS management. However, we will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS, as such a review and evaluation is
not within the scope of this engagement.

The specific timing of the compilation procedures would be worked
out with management based on an agreed-upon schedule. It is
anticipated that the work conducted on-site would not exceed more
than two to three days, and most likely could be achieved within
this period assuming the accounting records are in order and the
client assistance schedule is accurately and thoroughly
completed.

Control Over IFCSS Engagement

The success of any professional engagement depends primarily on
the dedication and abilities of the assigned executives, the
relationships they build with our client's management and staff,
and the selection of the overall audit and consulting team
assigned to the engagement. We believe that we can provide a team
of individuals with the qualities necessary to appropriately and
effectively serve IFCSS as its independent accountants, tax
preparers, and business advisors.

Dan D'Agostino, a principal of the firm, will be the assigned
executive for the engagement. He will be responsible for ensuring
effective planning and staffing, timely performance, continuing
communications, the resolution of questions and potential
problems, and quality control. He will be assisted by a staff
member, most likely Jing Chen who met you at the meeting last
week. Dan has over 19 years experience as a business consultant,
predominantly conducting and managing audit and accounting
engagements as well as numerous and various management advisory
consulting services.

Dan and/or other members of the firm as deemed appropriate will
meet with management during the year to discuss matters affecting
IFCSS as needed to bring important issues to your attention. And,
if any matters requiring assistance do arise during the year, the
executive will have our firm respond quickly and with experienced
personnel.

Elliot Blum is a principal responsible for the firms' tax
practice and he will coordinate the tax services to IFCSS. In
this role he will have the responsibility for ensuring timely
and complete preparation of the tax returns (Federal Forms 990
and 990T), and will ensure that ample time is allotted to review
all tax returns with you in advance of the filing dates. He will
be assisted by members of the firm's tax division, who will also
be available to respond to tax questions or issues and provide
tax planning as the need arises.

Our firm also has two full-time consultants who are solely
dedicated to management information systems and are very
knowledgeable of computer programming, applications and operating
systems. Other consultants of the firm as involved with numerous
other consulting activities. We will draw upon their expertise as
deemed necessary throughout the audit engagement, and in other
services that may be needed and requested by IFCSS throughout the
fiscal period.

PROFESSIONAL FEES AND EXPENSES

As mentioned during our meeting, we would prefer to have IFCSS as
a client over a long term, and since we want to develop a
positive client relationship with IFCSS that we believe would be
mutually rewarding, we have taken the liberty to present a fee
arrangement for not only the 1993 fiscal period, but also for
1994 and 1995. You will note that the fees for the three year
engagement are thus discounted, and average over the term os as
not to have a significantly higher fee in the first  year that
would otherwise be the case.

Based upon the scope of services described above, we propose to
perform the aforementioned services applicable to IFCSS's fiscal
years for the following respective fees:

                              Compilation and Tax
   One year
   Engagement     1993        $2,325

   Multiple Year  1993        $2,200
   Engagement     1994        $2,225
                  1995        $2,450

================================================
          Three Year
          Engagement Total    $6,675

The above quoted fees are based on anticipated hours by level of
personnel, with a discounted hourly rate from our standard hourly
rates per hour for the three year engagement since we are
desirous of having IFCSS as a client over at least the three year
term. The fee also assumes the scope of services or the structure
of the organization does not significantly change during the
first three year period. This implies that IFCSS would not be
subject to government auditing standards or OMB requirements.
Out-of-pocket expenses, which include travel, parking courier
services, copying, fax, etc., are billed as incurred and normally
are about 5% to 7% of professional fees.

The above fees are also based on the assumption that all
necessary information is made available to us during the
engagement(s) and that we receive maximum client assistance as
required. This would include typing of select confirmations if
deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required financial and tax
information, preparation of all bank reconciliations and
requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule, etc.

Receiving maximum assistance allows us to minimize costs to our
clients as well as to allow you to develop a better understanding
of the specific detail required to be obtained from your records
to support your financial statements and tax returns. We will
work with you in developing a client assistance list prior to
commencing field work and in reaching a mutually agreed upon
timetable for providing us the required information.

If you require special assistance during the engagements in
reconciling or analyzing accounts, or in completing the client
assistance workpapers, we would provide estimates and bill
separately for these services based on our standard hourly
consulting rates, which vary by level of personnel.

Specific accounting assistance or tax consultation outside the
scope of services as described above (for instance: Assistance
and/or preparation of journal entries, assistance with
depreciation lapse schedules, cash, receivable or payable
reconciliations, tax advice and consultation or dealings with the
IRS outside the realm of the  actual annual tax return
preparation) would also be billed at our standard hourly rates.

Other accounting services which may be needed by IFCSS would be
billed at our standard hourly rates. As mentioned earlier, these
rates vary depending upon job category and are typically adjusted
annually on February 1. For your information, our current hourly
rates are as follows:

          Job Categories           Hourly Rates
          --------------           ------------

          principal                $ 105 - $ 200
          Manager                     80 -   110
          Senior-Supervisor           50 -   100
          Staff                       40 -    80
          Paraprofessional            60 -    80

We would require an engagement agreement and letter of
understanding to be signed by IFCSS upon acceptance of our
proposal and before services would begin. The agreement could
include, but not be necessarily limited to, description of the
engagement, fees, conditions of payment, retainer requirements
(we  normally require a deposit form new clients prior to the
commencement of services up to one-half of the annual fee),
deadlines for reports, etc.

For your information, the attached Appendix A lists client
references, the majority of which are not-for-profit associations
comparable to IFCSS in terms of accounting and tax engagement
scope of  services. Additional references will be made available
upon request. We have made every effort to provide realistic fee
estimates, and if you have any questions regarding the details of
our proposed fees, please contact us as we would appreciate the
opportunity to discuss them with you to reach a mutually
agreeable fee arrangement.

In conclusion, we appreciate this opportunity to have been
solicited to respond to your request for proposal and to submit a
proposal to serve as your independent accountants. We are
confident that Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott has the required
staff who are qualified through education, training and
experience, the necessary support resources, and the enthusiasm
to conduct the required compilations, consulting and tax services
in a satisfactory, timely and efficient manner. We welcome the
opportunity to work with the Independent Federation of Chinese
Students and Scholars and look forward to hearing from you. If
you have any questions or require additional information, please
feel free to contact me at 301/530-2200.


Very truly yours,

Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, P.C.

By: Dan D'Agostino, CPA (signed)
    Principal
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**** Resolutions proposed

[CP5026]
        Resolution on inactivating the Finance Committee
                by Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        1) IFCSS Council Committees are elected and responsible for the
           Council. The Finance Committee neither got consent from nor
           informed other Council members before the releasing of recent
           open letter to the CSS. Such irresponsible action violated
           the basic right of other council members,
        2) A IFCSS Working Meeting is to be held Feb. 5-6, 1994 at Washington,
           D.C. and a professional review of both external and internal
           finance status is to be reviewed by CPA. All Council members,
           SVC members and other CSS will have the opportunity to thoroughly
           check and question HQ's operations in the past and future,
        3) The dispute between Finance Committee and HQ is getting too
           emotional, and a normal professional relationship between Council
           Finance Committee and HQ is not possible to keep at this time,

        Be it resolved that,

        temporally inactivate the Finance Committee and its inspection team
        until further discussion of Council.


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[CP5027]
        Amendment to Council Bylaw
                By Liang, Er/Dong Chen

        Whereas that the council committees are elected by the Council;
        that the committees' privilege is granted by the council;
        that the council is responsible for the committees' action;

        Amend that,

        To the Council Bylaw, in article IV, after the first sentence,
        "...shall have and may exercise the powers of the Council in
         management of the business and affairs of the Council."
        add the following,

        "The committees must inform and get consent from the Council
         for any of their activities outside the Council.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[CP5028]
        Resolution on open the "finance-net" to the Council
                By Dong Chen/Songlin Ren

        The Finance Committee is elected and responsible for the
        Council; many council members were not inform enough for the
        Finance Committee's recent action; the Finance Committee has
        set up a network for their routine work,

        Be it resolved that,

        Finance Committee open the "finance-net" to all Council members
        include its archived files.

*************************************************************************
=========================================================================

**** Explanation of email conference procedure (Prepared by Chen, Dong)

Dear colleague,

     As this is the first email conference we have, I think it is
necessary to me to explain how the procedure should go. Please notice
this is only my own understanding and suggestion after consulting with
other people who have more experience in this matter. Please do voice
your suggestions.

[sign on]

     First we should sign on the net as soon as possible by sending
mail to "council-l@ifcss.org". In fact, you should sign on now.

[deadline]

     Then start from 6:00pm EST, Jan. 13, you can post your
discussion and vote to the net. Please notice the deadlines, i.e.
        - 11:00pm EST, Jan. 14 for vote of the CPA
        - 6:00pm  EST, Jan. 15 for proposing new resolutions
        - 5:59pm  EST, Jan. 20 for vote of all resolutions.

[vote]

     You can vote any resolutions as soon as the meeting starts.

     Please refer to the series number of the resolution (CP50**) when
you need to mention the resolution.

     Please post you discussion and vote as soon as you can. Don't wait
until the deadline, although I will try to remind you to vote in the
last two days of the meeting.

     You can vote for one issue at a time or combine all of them together.
Please write clearly which resolution you are talking/voting.

     All resolutions have to be voted, there is no unanimous consent.

[writing]

     For clarity, I suggest we write the subject line in this format:
        Subject: [area]<your name> message title
where [area] can be [vote],[discussion],[CP5026],[motion] etc.
the message title can be optional. For example,
Subject: [discussion]<Dong Chen> Who is responsible for the open letter?

     For rules that not defined in the order of the meeting, we should
follow the Robert Rule of Order.
     I suggest everybody check your email at least once per day.

Dong Chen



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Status: RO

Since some council members were not on the net, here's a memo SVC send to
us. (I am really surprise that so many of us was not on line for such a long
time ! )

Also, I want to remind you that we are going to have a working meeting
Feb. 5-6 in Washington D.C. All council members, SVC members, IFCSS working
committee chairs, (project coordinators also ?) and others will come
to the meeting. Please book your ticket now.

OK, here's the SVC memo.

===========================================================
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 01:19:48 MST
From: Li-Shi Luo <luo@t13.lanl.gov>
To: dlq@u.washington.edu
Cc: svc93@ifcss.org
Subject: memo the each Council member


Dear Liqun,

It's nice talking to you through the phone.
Hopefully you had a happy holliday season.

Enclosed please find a memo to the each of
the Council Member regarding to the pending
appeals. Could you please make sure that
every one of them receive this memo. And, 
please let me know when you receive this
message.

Thank you very much for time and efforts in
working with us to complete this task.

With best regards.

Sincerely yours,
Li-Shi Luo
The SVC Coordinater

####################################################################

To:      The '93-'94 IFCSS Council
From:    The '93-'94 IFCSS SVC
Subject: Investigation on Recent Appeals
Date:    Jan. 7th, 1994

Dear IFCSS Council Member: 

There are two appeals pending in the Supervisory Committee (SVC)
of IFCSS. The appeals were submitted to the SVC by Mr. Li,
Jinghong, an IFCSS activist and a former IFCSS Council member and
the IFCSS Headquarter (HQ), respectively.  They concern the
Council Finance Committee's recent financial inspection on IFCSS
Headquarter's financial management.

Upon deliberation among the SVC members, the SVC concluded that
some information is necessary in addressing the appeals. The SVC 
hereby requests that each and every one of the Council Members
provide answers to the following questions.  Please answer the
questions as accurately and as promptly as possible.  Your
answers will be considered by the SVC to the effect of sworn
statements.  If the SVC does not receive your answers by Jan. 15,
1994, the SVC will consider that you have given up the rights as
a Council member in the regard of the appeals, unless specific
reasons are given. Otherwise, we shall act on the information we 
obtained via other means. 

I. The participation of Mr. Yan Bai in the Financial Inspection
   Team of the Council: 
   1) Had the Council adopted any resolution with regard to 
      Mr. Yan Bai's membership of the Inspection Team? 
      If yes, then
   2) The council members who have voted on the resolution please 
      provide the SVC with the time and circumstances under which 
      the above said resolution, if it existed, was adopted.

II. If there had not been a resolution of the Council approving
    Mr. Bai's participation, then:
    1) How and when did Mr. Yan Bai get involved in the inspection 
       process? 
    2) Are you aware of his involvement?  
    3) Who nominated him and approved of his involvement? 
    4) Were there proper introduction of Mr. Bai to the Council 
       with regard to his background and qualifications for the 
       inspection process? 

III. There had been a memo from the Council regarding to the
     composition of the Inspection Team, dated Nov. 6th, 1993. 
     Would each and every one of the council members please indicate
     1) Were you aware of this memo before its release? 
     2) Was there a voting on such a memo?
     3) Had you approved its release? And
     4) Who released it and had the council authorized him/her to do so?

IV. Publicizing of the reports by the Inspection Team to public:
    1) Were you aware of the reports before its release?
    2) To your knowledge, has the Council approved the report? 
    3) Has the council approved the release of the report to the public? 
       If yes, please provide the voting records (how and when).  
    4) Who actually did the issuing of the report to the public? 

V. The Council Taskforce: On Dec. 5th, 1993, Mr. Yungui Ding,
   the Co-Chairman of the Council announced the organization of
   a taskforce, which was to be an extension of the Inspection Team.
     Did the Council adopted any resolution in support of this
     decision or authorize Mr. Ding to make such an announcement? 
     If yes, please provide the official records.

Please direct your replies via US mail to 

        Mr. Kening Li
        503-L Eagle Heights 
        Madison, WI 53705 

or via Email to 

        svc93@ifcss.org.

You will receive a hard copy of this letter by certified US mail
if you cannot be reached by e-mails.

Please acknowledge the reception of this message by e-mail if possible. 
Thank you very much for your time and efforts in working with us. 


Sincerely yours,

The Supervisory Committee 
IFCSS (signed by Kening Li)

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 .......................................................................
   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   Wang Jing
   ----  ---- (signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region:  ---  ---
 .......................................................................


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Dear council members, HQ officials:
	
	As a council member and a participant in the site inspection term,
I extremely glad to see that our hard works are starting to payoff now.
In the second teleconference we discussed the results of the site
inspection. The financial committee, based on the works of inspection term, 
on the site and off the site, concluded that the accounting situation is
extremely chaotic in HQ for the last year. 

	There is no financial statement to explain a large proportion of 
IFCSS' expenditure, estimated up to 0.23 million us dollar which is over
half of IFCSS' revenue last fiscal year.

	Since there is no record for such big portion of total expenditure, No
further conclusion can be made about any thing at this point of time.
However other financial misconducts are also uncovered during this day
and half inspection, such as, treasurer misusing IFCSS check to pay her own
rental, two pay days are observed in some months, several missing checks
are without proof of cancellation and so on so forth.  

	Please note, we have been paying 20.000 us dollar every year hired a
professional accountant. Sloppiness and inefficiency are evident in her
work that had reseached  a level of extreme! When we were in D.C. to conduct
the site inspection in November, She has not done bookkeeping for two months.
there is no journal for September and October. The only daily work that
she is paid for to do is typing the checks to a Lotus 123 accounting
program in computer. The check number almost never exceeds 10, and for most
the days there is none ( the only exceptions that we observed are the days
right after 5th congress which have more than 10 checks/day ). 	Bin Qi and
I went through all the checks and journal for three months in one 
afternoon, which means three months of her work can be done by two layperson 
in 4 hours, if you really work hard. And she has not even get these job done! 
	Another part of her job that she is paid for is to give a financial
statement every three months, that will COMPILE all the checks that she
entered in the program. So we can make sense out of it. What she has done
for that? As we already said, if we add the numbers in her financial
statement of last year, we can not come up with the number of total revenue
which is about 400 thousand.  Record of 230 thousand is missing. We do not
know what the hell happen to this sum of money. There are piles of receipts that
she claims are of all the records. There is simply no way we can go
through that. With such a big portion missing, the rests of the financial 
statements are more likely to be meaningless. that is why we still have not 
file the tax for last year which is long, long due.
	So, what left for us? Since she is obviously not doing her job.( At
this point I am not sure whether she is still receiving salary.) We now have
to hire a CPA to RE-COMPILE the record, to redo the job our treasurer has not
done. If we are lucky, if the the checks and journals she entered are
faithful and complete, then we hopefully can get the financial
statements from the CPA and file the taxes at an extra cost. 

	 Lets look how much a reputed  accounting firm will charge to do the
job for us, A LITTLE OVER TWO THOUSAND A YEAR! Folks,  Are we fools or not?
The best accounting firm that has bidded this job, the Myint & Butua and
Cohen Rutherford Blum & Scott, PC, Certified Public Accountants gave us an
offer as following:

               1993   $ 2325
               1994   $ 2225
               1995   $ 2450
           ---------------------
               total  $ 6675

For $ 6675 in total, we are set for three years! 

	 My fellow students and scholars, the choice in front us is
crystal clear. These si nithignthat we can argue about. the real
question is hy we making these kind mistakes and who made us to make
these kind mistakes? For the ones that attended 5th congress we will all
remember the person lied to all of us loud and shamelessly about the workload
and quality of this treasurer. And those persons also have unescapable
responsibility for these terrible mistakes. 

	For our money, we can afford the best we can get! Cost is not a
issue in selecting who we want to work for us. Several hundred dollars more
expensive is not going to to break us.  We are paying hundred thousand
more for compromising the excellence of the work. And these is no
deadlines that we need to rush either. Council received the notification of
CPA bidding in Jan 10, 1994. and also notified at the same
time unconstitutionally that if there is no resolution has been passed about 
bidding before Jan. 14, 1994,(which is  today by the way) in a e-mail 
conference which was  scheduled to start at 6 pm Jan. 13, 1994, but not 
started yet, or may ever start, THE HQ WILL PROCEED TO SELECT THE CPA THAT 
THE HQ RECOMMENDED!  

	Lets look who our HQ recommeded and why? Jeff Lin is a CPA that did
the tax for IFCSS two year ago. That is when there was no good financial
record keeping in IFCSS.  And  this good CPA helped us to file our tax.
We are rather grateful for that. But we should move on. The situations
that happened in the earlier years should not be happening again. Covering
will kil the organization after all. We must not doing that again. Are there
any other reason, that make this CPA stand out? If we read his proposal
careful enough there is sentence as following: " If management has elected
to omit substantially all of the disclosure and statement of cash flows
required by general accepted accounting principle........,  Another
statement will be included....".  Aha! He offered that the management, 
which in our case is HQ, a electing to omit substantially the information
that are required by general accepted accounting principle. What kind
choice is that? We are now facing a financial "myth" that we can not figure
out. Are we willing to pay to get another financial "myth"? Certainly not.
In the contrary, the Myint & Butua presented  a 4000 words proposal and
offered a three year plan to work with us, and help to professionalizing
this organiztion. Who would have any confusion in kselecting between these
two firms. 

	In this whole process, there are many questions that have been
perplexing me. Why some people in our organization so unwilling to do
things in a better and more effcient way? Why are the people work in this HQ
willing to risk being suspected by the students and scholar community
and do not avoid this situation of conflict of interest. I sincerly ask
everybody, help me out on these questions.



Council members, Please vote no to Jeff Lin and yes to Myint & Butua and Cohen
Rutherford Blum & Scott, PC, Certified Public Accounting. See how many
people we can get for our money to work for us by selecting the later.




                                                         Cheng Liu    



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Mr. Chair,

	First, I appreciate the hard work of Finance Committee. Due to
them we will have probably the most comprehensive finance auditing in
the IFCSS history. But, nevertheless, there are many things wrong in
the process.

	Here is my reply to Mr. Liu Cheng's article.


	For Liu Cheng's criticism of the current Treasurer, I am not
sure how much I can agree or disagree, because I did not go through the
account myself. But surely the Finance Committee and Mr.  Liu does not
appreciate how complicated the IFCSS finance account can be.

	I know one small company here with only 3 persons. They even
keep an half time treasurer. Certainly the IFCSS's finance situation,
transactions are much more complicated.

	Also, from talking to the Treasurer of the 1st term, also to Gen
Xiao who tried to do the accounting in his term, I know the IFCSS's
account is very complicated. In fact, lacking sole duty treasurer is
part of the reason that we have messy accounting situation for the first
three terms.  Gen Xiao hired Ms. Jiang, our current Treasurer because he
felt it was beyond what he could handle and he wanted to professionize
our accounting system.

	Later, Mr. Liu claimed "three months of her work can be done by
two layperson in 4 hours". Do you really believe that ? Do you know the
different between organizing a file and glancing through the file ? I
can read a novel in two hours, but can I then claim that writers should
be able to write books in a few hours ? I know this is not a very good
example, but the point is there. Think about it, if you two, non
professional, have no background in accounting, can do accounts in a
few hours, why CPA need to spend time studying accounting for more than
two year? Also, I have to point out that the better an account is
maintained, the easier and lesser time it takes for reviewing. So from
what you said, I might conclude that our account is very well
maintained.

	BTW, when later he claimed that the reputable CPA will do the
accounting for us for "A LITTLE OVER TWO THOUSAND A YEAR", that is
totally wrong! What the firm proposed is (read the proposal again
please!) that they will charge $2300 for the year end compiling of our
account, and under the condition that we have an accountant do the
everyday accounting the right way.

	Saying that the to-be-hired CPA will do what Treasurer
supposedly should do is inconceivable.  Suppose we had so called
"qualified" accountant, then don't the CPA need to do anything for the
proposed job ?  If you read the proposal of "Cohen, Rutherford,
Blum&Schott, PC", the job of our treasurer include at least "typing of
select confirmations if deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required
financial and tax information, preparation of all bank reconciliations
and requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule", etc. And the CPA's job is just "compilation of
the accrual basis financial statements", "annual tax returns" and other
"accounting and consulting services"

	Actually, the simplest way for us to evaluate how well Ms. Jiang
performed is to talk to some accounting firm. Just to see how much they
would charge for them to do the everyday accounting for us. Also, we
will have our opportunity to ask the CPA at the D.C.  Working Meeting
after he/she evaluates the whole finance situation of IFCSS.


	The second big part of the article is his insisting the missing
$230K.  For this, I would blame more to the Finance Committee than
anybody else right now. Why ? Because Finance Committee did not do
their home work, or not enough before they reached their conclusion.
Have you ever see how a professional do inspection ? You first have to
try to work out the difference with HQ, ask them questions, talk to
them for several rounds; then you state what you have known and what
you still not know with solid facts, numbers. But what we see here is
that Finance Committee just claimed there are 230K missing with such a
poor writing and supporting facts, even before trying to get an
explanation from HQ.  Here, I am not even try to work out the possible
overlap as pointed out by the "open letter", nor try to figure out if
IFCSS can afford to have 230K missing without notice (see Anzhi's
article in the ifcssvc net, if you want, I can forward to you).  Even
further assume what FC claimed is the case, have we, the council member
ever been informed ?  Why didn't FC bring such a serious SERIOUS
finding out in the 2nd teleconference ?  It is irresponsible and
irrespective to other council members for the FC to post such an open
accusation without informing us. I know the FC will blame HQ for not
cooperative. But is uncooperative the same as confirmation of missing
230K ? If FC is really serious about the reputation of IFCSS and of
itself's, just state the fact (e.g.  complaining about HQ's bad
attitude or something like that), do not present your wildest guess as
the truth. And most importantly, respect other council member.

	The last part is for CPA bidding. What I want see is an
objectively comparison of these for proposal. but after reading why HQ
recommend Jeff Lin, the only thing I can say is Finance Committee has
lost basic trust with HQ. Further cooperation between FC and HQ is not
possible now.

	I will post my analysis of bidding CPA in next mail.


In conclusion, my points are,

=> I will judge our Treasurer's work only after consulting the the CPA
   who has evaluate our whole finance situation

=> The finance committee's claim is not well supported

=> The Finance Committee's "open letter" is irresponsible

=> Even though I do not know as much accounting as our FC colleagues, I
   can still see many obvious misleading/wrong point of articles/letters
   of FC.

Dong Chen

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   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
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 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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From:	5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
	Signed by Zhou Hongguang for FC

To:	5th IFCSS Council

Cc:	5th IFCSS SVC

Date:	1/15/94

RE:
		      The Follow-up (1) of the Open Letter


Dear IFCSS Council members & CSSs:


	The IFCSS Council Finance Committee is glad to have observed active 
responses from people with concerns. We believe, with positive attitude,
progress will be achieved toward the direction of professionalizing IFCSS, 
though it is painful.

	Considering the reactions from the reading of the Open Letter, the 
Finance Committee deems it necessary to provide the readers with some footnotes 
to reaffirm the purpose of the letter.

1. The purpose of the Open Letter is to ask accounting questions pertinent to
the accounting irregularities that resulted in the disappearance of some fund
in the Financial Statements of Fiscal Year 1992-93 and 1993-94 (1st Quarter).
It is limited in the material effect of fair presentation of the financial 
statements. It is not the intent of the Council Finance Committee to imply
any charge against anybody. Any interpretation, if not distortion, of
this nature is purely, as some reader pointed out early, self-imagination,
which is beyond the duty and control boundary of this Committee. The
Finance Committee believes that it is up to the treasurer of the IFCSS to
PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBTS.

2. The Finance Committee believes that it faithly executed its responsibilities
to carry out the resolution passed in the IFCSS Council's first conference. 
This resolution authorized this Committee to inspect the IFCSS's financial
operation and see to it that all the financial activities are in accord with
the rules and regulations. 

	The Open Letter, as a part of the inspection report, is a natural 
outcome  of the Committee's inspection and supervision. Reflecting the
reality and raising the questions are inherent in the Committee's routine
procedure and protected by the IFCSS's Consitution and the by-laws. The
Open Letter, wholely as a working  report to the Council and the public,
was never intended, nor did it ever pretend to be a conclusive evaluation
or the end summary of the IFCSS's financial activities. In fact, it is only
a beginning. With this in mind, the burden of proof is on the treasurer as
to how well those questions are chosen to be answered to. IT IS NEVER WRONG
TO ASK QUESTIONS.

3. IFCSS, as an organization of not pursuing profit and representing the 
interests of the Chinese students and scholars in the U.S.A., should and must
provide access to the public regarding its financial management. The public
has the right to be informed about how the fund is used, and the Finance
Committee takes the provision of public information as an obligation to the
PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW. 

4. The title of "Possible IFCSS Financial Scandal: Missing $0.23 Million" is 
not the original part of the Open Letter. Therefore, the Council Finance 
Committee is not responsible for any kind of effects such as speculation that 
may have been caused by it.

	To be responsible to the Council and the public, this Committee does
not approve any simple addition of the numbers shown in the Open Letter in that
it does not serve but defeat the auditing objective of clerical accuracy. Since
the numbers are interdependent to affect the debits and credits in
transactions, any inclination to add up these figures into a total or to do
calculation based upon the total would not reveal but mislead. This is why
the Committee raised three questions separately.

5. The fiscal year (FY) of IFCSS is from July 1 to June 30 each calender year. 
End Balance means any excess fund by the date of June 30. Any Beginning Fund 
Balance (the carryover from the remaining fund) starts as of July 1 of every
new fiscal year. Since IFCSS budget is also made based on the fiscal year, the 
same fiscal year applies to both the accounting and budgeting period. This 
hopefully answers the question of "as of what date."

	Finally, the IFCSS Council Finance Committee wishes to work closely 
with the IFCSS HQ and the CSS community in improvement of the IFCSS's
accounting and budget performance. At the same time, the Finance Committee,
once more, requires the treasurer of IFCSS to work out genuine
explanations and redo the financial statements for the sake of both IFCSS
and the community.









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Mr. Chair,

	First, I appreciate the hard work of Finance Committee. Due to
this we will have probably the most comprehensive finance auditing in
the IFCSS history. But, nevertheless, there are many things wrong in
the process.

	Here is my reply to Mr. Liu Cheng's article.


	For Liu Cheng's criticism of the current Treasurer, I am not
sure how much I can agree or disagree, because I did not go through the
account myself. But surely the Finance Committee and Mr.  Liu does not
appreciate how complicated the IFCSS finance account can be.

	I know one small company here with only 3 persons. They even
keep an half time treasurer. Certainly the IFCSS's finance situation,
transactions are much more complicated.

	Also, from talking to the Treasurer of the 1st term, also to Gen
Xiao who tried to do the accounting in his term, I know the IFCSS's
account is very complicated. In fact, lacking sole duty treasurer is
part of the reason that we have messy accounting situation for the first
three terms.  Gen Xiao hired Ms. Jiang, our current Treasurer because he
felt it was beyond what he could handle and he wanted to professionize
our accounting system.

	Later, Mr. Liu claimed "three months of her work can be done by
two layperson in 4 hours". Do you really believe that ? Do you know the
different between organizing a file and glancing through the file ? I
can read a novel in two hours, but can I then claim that writers should
be able to write books in a few hours ? I know this is not a very good
example, but the point is there. Think about it, if you two, non
professional, have no background in accounting, can do accounts in a
few hours, why CPA need to spend time studying accounting for more than
two year? Also, I have to point out that the better an account is
maintained, the easier and lesser time it takes for reviewing. So from
what you said, I might conclude that our account is very well
maintained.

	BTW, when later he claimed that the reputable CPA will do the
accounting for us for "A LITTLE OVER TWO THOUSAND A YEAR", that is
totally wrong! What the firm proposed is (read the proposal again
please!) that they will charge $2300 for the year end compiling of our
account, and under the condition that we have an accountant do the
everyday accounting the right way.

	Saying that the to-be-hired CPA will do what Treasurer
supposedly should do is inconceivable.  Suppose we had so called
"qualified" accountant, then don't the CPA need to do anything for the
proposed job ?  If you read the proposal of "Cohen, Rutherford,
Blum&Schott, PC", the job of our treasurer include at least "typing of
select confirmations if deemed appropriate, retrieval of all required
financial and tax information, preparation of all bank reconciliations
and requested workpapers, and conformance to our standard client
assistance schedule", etc. And the CPA's job is just "compilation of
the accrual basis financial statements", "annual tax returns" and other
"accounting and consulting services"

	Actually, the simplest way for us to evaluate how well Ms. Jiang
performed is to talk to some accounting firm. Just to see how much they
would charge for them to do the everyday accounting for us. Also, we
will have our opportunity to ask the CPA at the D.C.  Working Meeting
after he/she evaluates the whole finance situation of IFCSS.


	The second big part of the article is his insisting the missing
$230K.  For this, I would blame more to the Finance Committee than
anybody else right now. Why ? Because Finance Committee did not do
their home work, or not enough before they reached their conclusion.
Have you ever see how a professional do inspection ? You first have to
try to work out the difference with HQ, ask them questions, talk to
them for several rounds; then you state what you have known and what
you still not know with solid facts, numbers. But what we see here is
that Finance Committee just claimed there are 230K missing with such a
poor writing and supporting facts, even before trying to get an
explanation from HQ.  Here, I am not even try to work out the possible
overlap as pointed out by the "open letter", nor try to figure out if
IFCSS can afford to have 230K missing without notice (see Anzhi's
article in the ifcssvc net, if you want, I can forward to you).  Even
further assume what FC claimed is the case, have we, the council member
ever been informed ?  Why didn't FC bring such a serious SERIOUS
finding out in the 2nd teleconference ?  It is irresponsible and
irrespective to other council members for the FC to post such an open
accusation without informing us. I know the FC will blame HQ for not
cooperative. But is uncooperative the same as confirmation of missing
230K ? If FC is really serious about the reputation of IFCSS and of
itself's, just state the fact (e.g.  complaining about HQ's bad
attitude or something like that), do not present your wildest guess as
the truth. And most importantly, respect other council member.

	The last part is for CPA bidding. What I want see is an
objectively comparison of these for proposal. but after reading why HQ
recommend Jeff Lin, the only thing I can say is Finance Committee has
lost basic trust with HQ. Further cooperation between FC and HQ is not
possible now.

	I will post my analysis of bidding CPA in next mail.


In conclusion, my points are,

=> I will judge our Treasurer's work only after consulting the the CPA
   who has evaluate our whole finance situation

=> The finance committee's claim is not well supported

=> The Finance Committee's "open letter" is irresponsible

=> Even though I do not know as much accounting as our FC colleagues, I
   can still see many obvious misleading/wrong point of articles/letters
   of FC.

Dong Chen

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Mr. Chair,

	Yesterday, I could not finish my comment of Liu Cheng's article,
especially to the point for CPA bidding. Frankly, I didn't know what to
say. I would like only debate on the point he made, but there's other thing
that really bothers me. That is, I feel Mr. Liu and also Finance Committee
is highly bias against anything HQ do now, and based on such sentiment
an objective conclusion is hard to reach.

	The arguments in Mr. Liu's article, FC's open letter and FC's appeal
to SVC is so obviously weak if not totally wrong, that I feel embarrass to 
debate against. I will just point a few more in Mr. Liu's article here.

	In the four proposals of the CPAs', I feel Jeff Lin and Cohen,etc
are really stand out. 
	I do think that of Cohen,etc. is very impressive and their writing 
is certainly the best one here. But also, their charge is the highest one.
As they claimed, and I believe, Cohen,etc. has very good reputation and does
high quality jobs.
	On the other hand, Jeff Lin has solid excellent reputation. He was
hired by NED, which is famous and which manage hundreds millions dollars
each year. If IFCSS want to apply funds from foundations such as NED, Ford,
Rockefeller, etc., an evaluation by Jeff Lin will give us a lot of help.

	I have noticed that Jeff Lin will "conduct a study of the internal
control structure of IFCSS" and "draft up an accounting policy manual",
while Cohen,etc. states that they "will not be reviewing the internal
control structure of IFCSS". This might be a big difference for us, because
I think for the future, one of the most important point to professionalize
our finance system is the internal control.

	Also, Mr. Jeff Lin offer a flat rate that let us to have better idea
for what we will get for the price we pay. The hourly rate offered by Cohen,
etc. on the other hand, could go out of hand in the worst case and we have
no control of it. (I do mean it will, but for the worst case it can.)

	From the above point, I approve the HQ's recommendation of Mr. Jeff
Lin.


	In Mr. Liu's article, he said:
liu:  For our money, we can afford the best we can get! Cost is not a
liu:  issue in selecting who we want to work for us.

We are not that rich yet. We are still trying to do many things with limited
resource. And most importantly, we do not have the right to spend money more
than necessary.

liu:  We are paying hundred thousand
liu:  more for compromising the excellence of the work.

Again, we have not find the truth about this point yet.

liu:  And these is no deadlines that we need to rush either.
liu:  Council received the notification of CPA bidding in Jan 10, 1994.

As all of you know, we have Working Meeting in Feb. 5, in order to settle
down this finance problem as soon as possible, we need to start as soon as
possible. Or do we want drag all this mess to the 6th term ?
The first memo from HQ to council of the CPA's proposal was sent to us in
"Mon, 3 Jan 1994 14:48:36". You guys really should pay some attention to
your emails.

liu:  Lets look who our HQ recommended and why? Jeff Lin is a CPA that did
liu:  the tax for IFCSS two year ago. That is when there was no good financial
liu:  record keeping in IFCSS.  And  this good CPA helped us to file our tax.
liu:  We are rather grateful for that. But we should move on. The situations
liu:  that happened in the earlier years should not be happening again. Covering
liu:  will kil the organization after all. We must not doing that again.

Tell me the "why" and tell me what is the "covering". When you said
"The situations" "should not be happening again", what situation ?
The "no good financial record keeping" or hiring Jeff Lin ? Do you know that
file tax return is different with day to day bookkeeping ? The reason
Jeff Lin helped file our 1990's tax is because, as you said, we didn't have
good book keeping for the first 2 terms. For the last two term, HQ filed the
tax return themselves because the improved book keeping.

liu:  If we read his proposal careful enough there is sentence as
liu:  following: " If management has elected
liu:  to omit substantially all of the disclosure and statement of cash flows
liu:  required by general accepted accounting principle........,  Another
liu:  statement will be included....".  Aha! He offered that the management, 
liu:  which in our case is HQ, a electing to omit substantially the information
liu:  that are required by general accepted accounting principle. What kind
liu:  choice is that?

Remember, he is not police. He can not force others to disclose information
to him. If he can not get all the documents he want, he does not want to
accuse IFCSS directly, but instead he will tell us in his own way that he 
does no see some documents. You might not agree to the words he will use,
but he will tell you the truth and it's up to council to decide what we should
do for a case like this. One option for us, if things really happen this
way, is the Council force HQ to disclose the documents, or we try to find
out why those things are none disclosable and how much. I don't understand
what is wrong with the approach.

liu:  In this whole process, there are many questions that have been
liu:  perplexing me. Why some people in our organization so unwilling to do
liu:  things in a better and more efficient way?

In a word, what you want to say is, my way is the only efficient way, isn't
it ?

liu:  Why are the people work in this HQ
liu:  willing to risk being suspected by the students and scholar community
liu:  and do not avoid this situation of conflict of interest.

I do not see any "conflict of interest" here, and I don't know why selecting
Jeff Lin make HQ suspectable. (Do you suspect NED because they hire Lin ?)

To summarize, I can not understand Mr. Liu's point. I think Cohen,,etc. is
very qualified firm. And I think Jeff Lin is a better choice.

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Mr. Chair,
	I vote yes to the recommendation of hiring Jeff Lin.
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Dear honorable SVC members:

In response to your call for reply to the investigation questionaire
designed by the SVC, I am sending the following several messages which
I hope will be of assistance to your investigation.

First of all, I am sorry I will not follow your questionair.
I don't think only answering to those questions would give a complete
description of the whole issue,considering its complicatedness and
controversial nature. It is my hope that an understanding of the
whole picture will be helpful to judge the appeals against me and
Zhou Hongguang.

Another important request I would like to make here is:
SVC member Luo Li-Shi should stand away from the investigation of these
cases and the decision on them. The reason is simple: he has voluntarily
involved himself in at least two of the most important occasions in
the key dispute about Mr. Bai Yan's participation in the Inspection
Team before the appeal cases were presented into the SVC.
And he has had his strongly biased opinions well before the SVC investigations
begins. That has been publicly known. (I will show you what role he has
played in the whole process in my following messages.) Considering his
deep involvement in the issue, I don't think he is still suitable 
to sit on the bench of the judges. 

In the following, I plann to provide you:

1. an unofficial record of the financial inspection;
2. Some notes on the record;
3. On Bai Yan's participation;
4. On my message to the Council on behalf of Zhou Hongguang;
5. On recent development of the issue;
6. A few words to conclude.

Due to my own busy study schedule, I may not be have all these ready
                                               ^able to
at once. I'll do my best. I understand you have set a deadline for
us to respond. I would like to ask your permission of some more time
for me to do the job.

I believe SVC as an institution will be able to make a fair judgement
on the whole issue and make a fair decision on the appeal cases,
although I do have reservations about Mr. Luo Li-Shi's impartiality.
Even about Mr. Luo Li-Shi's opinions on the issue, I respect his right
to have his own viewpoint. 


Thank you for your consideration.


Yungui Ding
Council member from Mid-West
Council co-chair

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--------------- an unofficial record of the whole issue ---------------------


August 14, 1993 Council Teleconference, 1st session
   Resolution on Financial Inspection of HQ, sponsored by the Council
   Finance Committee.

   Not passed. 

August 21, 1993 Council Teleconference, 2nd session
   The resolution was reconsidered, and passed.
   (Council Resolution CP5020).

   After the first sessioin, the HQ lobbied the Council members, trying
   to block the reconsidering of the resolution, on some occation in
   some unethical ways.

   As a result of a lot pressure, the Finance Committee Chair Shen Tong
   asked to resign from the Committee and from the Chair position in the
   second session. Requested by many, she agreed to remain in the Council,
   but she since then did not want to participate in the financial 
   inspection, which she had initiated and been advocating for.

The Finance Committee began to work on the inspection after the 
   Council's first Teleconference. An Inspection Team was formed with
   Mr Zhou Hongguang as the coordinator.
   
   The IT sent the inspection agenda to the HQ on September 7, 1993.

September 22, 1993
    
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ with the signatures of Council chair
   Dong Liqun, Co-chair Ding Yungui, and IT coordinator Zhou Hongguang (DDZ).
   The memo reiterates the IT's agenda and the request for needed accounting
   records. The HQ is extemely slow to give out the record.

October 7, 1993
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ, asking the required documents,
   and informing the HQ of the delay of the on site inspection due to the
   fact that the IT lacked of needed records. 

October 24, 1993
   Zhou Hongguang sent a memo to the HQ treasurer further asking documents.

October 28, 1993 

   The HQ sent a memo to the Council, claiming that the HQ had sent
   the listed documents to the IT.

   The Council replied right away with a memo signed by DDZ, stating it
   has not received the claimed documents and asking the HQ to cooperate
   with the Council by providing needed records. A detailed list of
   requested materials was sent alnong with the memo.   

October 20, 1993
   Council Chair Dong Liqun informed all Council members of Bai Yan's
   involvement in the IT work in his message updating the Council
   work. 

October 29, 1993
   The Council issued in its newsrelease to the CSS community a call for
   expertise in accounting and financial management, to help the Council
   in the course of professionalize IFCSS's finance system. Two responses
   (including Bai Yan's) were received.

   Bai Yan, was invited to join the IT. Council chair and co-chair were 
   informed of such arrangement, and they agreed with Bai Yan's going to DC. 

November 5-7: 
   The Council IT consisting of Council members Liu Chen,
   Qi Bing, and Zhou Hongguang, and invited volunteer Mr Bai Yan,
   were in the HQ to conduct the inspection. 

   President Lin Changsheng  and SVC Coordinator disagreed with Mr. Bai Yan's 
   participation in IT and therefore access to the accounting record. 
   Their refusal reason is that HQ was not informed of in advance.  

   The Council issued another memo to HQ, signed by DDZ, on Nov 6,
   reconfirming Bai Yan is authorized to be a member in the IT, and asking
   the HQ to give him the approriate previliges as other members
   according to the IFCSS Council Financial Regulations

   After the memo and communications between the Council Chair and Mr. Lin
   and Mr. Luo, President Lin Changsheng and SVC Coordinator Luo Li-Shi
   agreed to let Bai Yan participate in the inspection. IT started its work. 

   Because most of the financial records at the HQ is in chaotic states, 
   the IT had to do bookkeeping for the treasurer. IT did complete aduditing
   on site.

   On November 7, when the IT left HQ office, a memo was left to the 
   the IFCSS treasurer, asking her to continue to provide the necessary
   materials to the Council. 

Nov 8, 1993

   Council member Ren Songlin sent a message to the Council-l, complaining
   about not being aware of Bai Yan's joining the IT. Apparently, he forgot
   the notice from Dong Liqun regarding Bai Yan's participation in IT. 
   Ding Yungui replied.

Nov ?, 1993 

  Instead of complying to the Council's Finance Committee's request, the
  treasurer chosed to send a rebuttal to the Council on November ? on 
  public net, which was later carried by CCF with a rebuttal from FC.

  The IT sent out a long progressive report to the Council-l net,
  reporting their progress in inspection.

Nov 20, 1993 Council's second Teleconference
  The Finance Committee made a progressive report of the inspection.
  Jian Zuihong was asked to explain.
  Supervisory Committee Coordinator Luo Lishi rudely questioned and
  attacked Bai Yan's personally integrity and academic qualification.
  The normal proceeding of the meeting was interrupted.

  The Finance Committeee concluded that it would continue to work on it.

December 1993, after the Teleconference:
  Ding Yungui announced FC's progress, including the intention to extend
  IT into a taskforce, on behalf of Zhou Hongguang. 
  LJH appealed against Ding Yungui in regard to task force formation.

  HQ appealed against Zhou Hongguang about the inspection issue, charging  
  Zhou Hongguang of dishonesty, and questioning Bai Yan's qualification;

  HQ publicly attacked Zhou Hongguang's personal integrity in its news
  release.

  HQ announced its plan to invite external CPA to compile IFCSS' accounting
  record. Council FC released a memo to welcome
  the positive move of HQ, and required the HQ to submit to the Council
  a timetable of the bidding and inform the Council of the procedure.

  FC announced its plan to have a second on-site inspection.

  HQ openly refuses to receive Council IT, violating the IFCSSS By-laws and
  challenging the authority of the Council.
 
  On behalf of the Financial Committee and on behalf of the Council
  Chair, Zhou Hongguang travelled to D.C. alone in the hope to
  exchange views and reach a comprimising solution.

January 1994 
  Council Finance Committee released an Open Letter about the irregularities
  exsisted in IFCSS accounting record, and urge the Council members and
  CSS' to pay attention to the IFCSS financial situation in order to 
  make the HQ open its accounting record to the Council's auditing.

  Council Finance Committee appealed to SVC on Lin Changsheng's blocking of
  financial inspection.

  SVC begins to investigate on Bai Yan's joining IT and Ding Yungui's
  announcement of the taskforce. 
  
  Li Jinghong sent more appeals to SVC on the Open Letter.

  ...





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Dear Colleages:

Since the weekend of Feb. 5 and 6 is the new year's eve weekend of the Srping
Festival, there will be lots of celebrations happening such as
get-togeters, party, dinner, and dancing party then here at Emory
University. Besides, the Chinese Embassdor to USA Mr. Li Dou-yu will be in
Atlanta around that weekend, I'll be actively interacting with him and his
attachee in respects of IFCSS role and the CCS community issues.

Also around that weekend, I will be in charge of a Chinese Film Review
shown on the campus, together with the local US-China Peoples' Friendship
Assocation. 

Last but not the least, according to the Chinese tradition, the Spring
Festiaval time is not good to travel out of door. So I think we should stay at
home to celebrate the Chinese New Year with our fellow country men.

Therefore, I will be not able to go DC around Feb. 5 and 6. I strong suggest
the working/round table meeting be postponed to a later date.

Thanks and regards.

Hongguang
Council Member from the Southwest 



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Subject: Memo on Selecting CPA for IFCSS Financial Engagement
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Memo on Selecting CPA for IFCSS  HQ

From: 		5th IFCSS Council Finance Committee
		signed by Zhou Hongguang for FC)

Status: 	Immedaite Release

TO:		IFCSS Council
		
CC:		IFCSS HQ 
		IFCSS Supervisory Committee

RE:		Recommendation on selecting CPA

Date:		January 15, 1994

	After having carefully reviewed the proposals from four 
CPAs for the call from the HQ regarding the compiling the 
financial statements, (please note this is NOT auditing) this IFCSS 
Council Finance Committee  would like to recommend to the Council 
that the recommendation by the HQ for Mr. Jeff W.S. Lin, CPA, 
for IFCSS financial engagement be rejected on the following grounds:

1. The bidding procedure on the open bidding

	The HQ has kept the Council in dark about the bidding 
procedures. The HQ began to take action to contact CPAs for 
open bidding only after the first on-site inspection by the Council 
Financial Inspection Team. On December 12, 1993, the Council and its 
Finance Committee welcome in the Council News Release 
CN5006 the move by the HQ and requested the HQ to provide 
necessary information regarding the bidding process. In spite 
of the Council's requirement, the HQ has never provided the 
demanded information such as timetable. Only until January 
10, 1994, the HQ issued a statement which sounds like an ultimatum 
without any elaboration on the OPEN bidding procedures. Given 
the circumstances, the Finance Committee cannot but to reject 
any possible recommendation by the HQ for any CPAs.

2. Scope of the bidding invitation

	The open bidding is not PUBLIC enough. Only four out of 
thousands of registered CPAs in the Greater Washington, DC area have 
responded to the bidding calls from the HQ. Since HQ has never 
substantially informed the Finance Committee of the 
development on the bidding invitation, this Committee can only 
conclude that the so-called open bid for the IFCSS financial 
engagement is not open enough. Given this conditions, the 
Finance Committee deems it impossible to make fair 
recommendation out of the four CPAs proposed by the HQ for 
the open bidding of IFCSS.

3. The bidding reviewing process

	The HQ misled the attention of the Council to the 
reviewing process in its recommendation for Mr. Lin, CPA as 
the IFCSS financial engagement , claiming the service and 
charges by Mr. Lin is better choice. However, in his only two-
and a-half-page bidding letter, Mr. Lin himself states his flat 
fees of $1,500 is based ONLY on:

"If management elects to omit substantially all disclosures, and
statement of cash flows, I will include an additional paragraph
that will read as follows:

          Management has elected to omit substantially all of the
          disclosures and statement of cash flows required by
          generally accepted accounting principles. If the
          omitted disclosures and statement of cash flows were
          included in the financial statement, they might
          influence the user's conclusions about the Company's
          financial position, results of operations, and cash
          flows. Accordingly, these financial statements are not
          designed for those who are not informed about such
          matters."

The Finance Committee has failed to understand why the HQ 
insists that  "This ( refers to Mr. Lin's profile closely fits to 
the need of IFCSS) is clearly reflected in his proposal, which we 
think is the best among the four (CPAs)". Instead of seeing 
clearly any commitment to provide a clear picture of the IFCSS 
financial situation, the Finance Commitee can only see that Mr. 
Lin charges $1,500 for doing simplified and compromised quality 
work for the IFCSS -- by omitting the Cashing Flow and other forms.

In contrast, Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, PC in their eight-
page bidding letter states in detail of their objectives and 
commitment to the IFCSS financial engagement for at least three 
years' run. They also provide the plan on how to proceed their 
engagement for IFCSS. They do charge fees higher than that Mr. Lin 
claims but with assured quality. They also leave the door open for 
further price negotiation. The Finance Committee again has failed 
to understand why the Cohen and associates should not be the best 
choice among the four CPAs suggested by the HQ.
	
4. Deadline

	The "deadline" set by the HQ in its January 10, 1994 
Announcement ("if the Council is unable to reach a vote or 
verdict by January 14th, the HQ will proceed as this memo has 
recommended while continuing to seek the Council's endorsement" ) 
is totally UNACCETABLE. It is beyond the imagination that, under 
the Maryland Cooperation Laws that, the executive branch of a non-
profit organization like the IFCSS HQ to order its Board of 
Trustees or Directors like the IFCSS Council to do something by 
certain date and take action on its own recommendation without 
approval of the Council. And it is also unlawful. Even the HQ had 
provided all necessary information on the bidding procedures and 
made unbiased recommendation, the demand by the HQ on the Council 
to make a decision within FOUR days' time is absolutely 
unreasonable.

	Nevertheless, in case the Council has to make a decision 
under above-mentioned conditions, the Finance Committee would 
recommend that the Cohen, Rutherford, Blum & Schott, PC be the CPA 
for the IFCSS financial engagement.

	As the financial watchdog of the IFCSS Council, the Finance 
Committee deems it that it is its responsibility to remind the HQ 
as follows:
	
	If the HQ takes any action on CPA without the Council's 
decision based on the recommendation by the Finance Committee, the 
HQ must bear any subsequent responsibilities and consequences of 
both the IFCSS Constitution and By-laws and legality under US laws.





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Dear Colleages:

Since the weekend of Feb. 5 and 6 is the new year's eve weekend of the Srping
Festival, there will be lots of celebrations happening such as
get-togeters, party, dinner, and dancing party then here at Emory
University. Besides, the Chinese Embassdor to USA Mr. Li Dou-yu will be in
Atlanta around that weekend, I'll be actively interacting with him and his
attachee in respects of IFCSS role and the CCS community issues.

Also around that weekend, I will be in charge of a Chinese Film Review
shown on the campus, together with the local US-China Peoples' Friendship
Assocation. 

Last but not the least, according to the Chinese tradition, the Spring
Festiaval time is not good to travel out of door. So I think we should stay at
home to celebrate the Chinese New Year with our fellow country men.

Therefore, I will be not able to go DC around Feb. 5 and 6. I strong suggest
the working/round table meeting be postponed to a later date.

Thanks and regards.

Hongguang
Council Member from the Southwest 




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Dear council members:


I totally agree with Liu Chen's letter about the selection of CPA recompilation. 
What he's written out is just the same experience and suspicion I've been 
undergoing at the inspection in D.C.and afterwards. I'd like to bring your 
attention to following two points which I want to emphasize:

1/ What the HQ is bidding for is a CPA to redo (!) what HQ treasurer should have  
   done as his or her job, which we pay $12,000 each year.  This is only the 
   first for a good accounting. We are still away from CPA-auditing.
   
2/ As Liu Chen said in the letter, we are not choosing somebody to cover up or 
   make up. We just don't want the accounting of IFCSS the same messy and 
   questionable as before!  What we want to stuggle for is a more professionized 
   and therefore better IFCSS, instead of saving the old habit of keeping 
   everything in the dark to the public, just as  what we've been coming to the 
   US for is to learn how a system works instead of warming up dirty political 
   tricks for the next generation China.
   
Thank you!

																																																Qi, Bing

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To: IFCSS Council Members, IFCSS HQ
From: Liqun Dong, Chairperson of IFCSS Council

Until now, more than 75 hours passed after the scheduled openning-time of 
the e-mail meeting, only nine (9) of our sixteen (16) councils have 
informed me their attendance of the meeting through some kinds of 
methods. They are Chen Dong, Ren Songlin, Zhang Li, Xu Datong, Liang Er, 
Fan Hongran, Zhang Feng, Wang Jing, and Dong Liqun. Unfortunately, this 
number (9) is less than the quorum required. So, I have to cancel the 
proposed meeting.

Meanwhile, some councils have expressed their strong concern on the 
consequences of the Finance Committee's open letter. I hope the Finance 
Committee can seriously consider others' opinions before any further 
action is taken.


Liqun Dong (signed)
Chairperson of IFCSS Council


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 01:47:49 CST
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Subject: IFCSS Council NR CN5006: Professionalization of Accounting System

****************************************************************************

                 IFCSS Council News Release CN5006
                        December 12, 1993 

****************************************************************************

From: Council Finance Committee (Zhou Hongguang, signed)
To:   IFCSS Council
Cc:   IFCSS HQ, IFCSS SVC
Subj: Professionalization of IFCSS Accounting System
Date: December 11, 1993


The Council's Finance Committee has been working hard to push IFCSS'
financial management into a professional level since the beginning of 
this term. In the first Teleconference of the Council, the Finance
Committee proposed a bill to the Council, which later became a resolution,
to carry out a financial inspection of the IFCSS HQ. After the 
Teleconference, the Finance Committee formed an Inspection Team headed
by Mr. Zhong Hongguang to work on the inspection. The Team examined the
accounting records made available to the members by the HQ, and arranged
for four members to conduct an on-site inspection of the HQ in the weekend
of November 5.

Due to many reasons, the Inspection Team was not, and is still not, able 
to obtain all the necessary materials from the HQ to complete the mission
of financial inspection in the first trip. Our examination of the
accounting records has indicated many aspects in the IFCSS accounting
system that need improving. In the second Teleconference of the Council,
the Finance Committee gave a progressive report of the inspection to the
Council.

It has been clear that the IFCSS accounting system and IFCSS' general
financial management is one of the key areas that will define IFCSS'
professional operation, the Finance Committee is determined to continue
its effort to push it into the right direction. Currently, while we
continue examining the IFCSS HQ accounting records, we have also been 
in contact with some professional accounting firms to consider future
possible CPA auditing. We will keep you updated as we go along.

This work is a difficult task for the Council, and it is a challenge that
IFCSS must face. During our work, we have received tremendous support
from our colleagues in the Councils, IFCSS veterans, and many
ordinary CSS who are concerned about the future of IFCSS, which we 
appreciate so much. We are also happy to say that our work has broken a
path for IFCSS to move along toward professionalism.

We have noticed that the IFCSS HQ has also taken measures to invite CPA
offices to audit IFCSS' accounting records. The Finance Committee is
pleased to see such positive reactions from the IFCSS HQ. We believe it
is a right direction towards a professional accounting system for IFCSS.

The Finance Committee, while playing the role on behalf of the Council to
supervise the IFCSS accounting practice and financial management, will
appreciate the maximum cooperation of the HQ in regard of the inspection
and auditing. We expect the HQ to set, and submit to the Council, a
timetable of the proposed open bidding for CPA auditing and its development
as well. Meanwhile, the Finance Committee continues to urge the Inspection
Team on making greater efforts to proceed its internal inspection as planned.

Again, IFCSS' professionalization is far from easy an task, and the
concern and support from as many people as possible are mostly needed.
If you have ideas or comments on this matter, please feel free to let
us know.



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--------------- an unofficial record of the whole issue ---------------------


August 14, 1993 Council Teleconference, 1st session
   Resolution on Financial Inspection of HQ, sponsored by the Council
   Finance Committee.

   Not passed. 

August 21, 1993 Council Teleconference, 2nd session
   The resolution was reconsidered, and passed.
   (Council Resolution CP5020).

   After the first sessioin, the HQ lobbied the Council members, trying
   to block the reconsidering of the resolution, on some occation in
   some unethical ways.

   As a result of a lot pressure, the Finance Committee Chair Shen Tong
   asked to resign from the Committee and from the Chair position in the
   second session. Requested by many, she agreed to remain in the Council,
   but she since then did not want to participate in the financial 
   inspection, which she had initiated and been advocating for.

The Finance Committee began to work on the inspection after the 
   Council's first Teleconference. An Inspection Team was formed with
   Mr Zhou Hongguang as the coordinator.
   
   The IT sent the inspection agenda to the HQ on September 7, 1993.

September 22, 1993
    
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ with the signatures of Council chair
   Dong Liqun, Co-chair Ding Yungui, and IT coordinator Zhou Hongguang (DDZ).
   The memo reiterates the IT's agenda and the request for needed accounting
   records. The HQ is extemely slow to give out the record.

October 7, 1993
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ, asking the required documents,
   and informing the HQ of the delay of the on site inspection due to the
   fact that the IT lacked of needed records. 

October 24, 1993
   Zhou Hongguang sent a memo to the HQ treasurer further asking documents.

October 28, 1993 

   The HQ sent a memo to the Council, claiming that the HQ had sent
   the listed documents to the IT.

   The Council replied right away with a memo signed by DDZ, stating it
   has not received the claimed documents and asking the HQ to cooperate
   with the Council by providing needed records. A detailed list of
   requested materials was sent alnong with the memo.   

October 20, 1993
   Council Chair Dong Liqun informed all Council members of Bai Yan's
   involvement in the IT work in his message updating the Council
   work. 

October 29, 1993
   The Council issued in its newsrelease to the CSS community a call for
   expertise in accounting and financial management, to help the Council
   in the course of professionalize IFCSS's finance system. Two responses
   (including Bai Yan's) were received.

   Bai Yan, was invited to join the IT. Council chair and co-chair were 
   informed of such arrangement, and they agreed with Bai Yan's going to DC. 

November 5-7: 
   The Council IT consisting of Council members Liu Chen,
   Qi Bing, and Zhou Hongguang, and invited volunteer Mr Bai Yan,
   were in the HQ to conduct the inspection. 

   President Lin Changsheng  and SVC Coordinator disagreed with Mr. Bai Yan's 
   participation in IT and therefore access to the accounting record. 
   Their refusal reason is that HQ was not informed of in advance.  

   The Council issued another memo to HQ, signed by DDZ, on Nov 6,
   reconfirming Bai Yan is authorized to be a member in the IT, and asking
   the HQ to give him the approriate previliges as other members
   according to the IFCSS Council Financial Regulations

   After the memo and communications between the Council Chair and Mr. Lin
   and Mr. Luo, President Lin Changsheng and SVC Coordinator Luo Li-Shi
   agreed to let Bai Yan participate in the inspection. IT started its work. 

   Because most of the financial records at the HQ is in chaotic states, 
   the IT had to do bookkeeping for the treasurer. IT did complete aduditing
   on site.

   On November 7, when the IT left HQ office, a memo was left to the 
   the IFCSS treasurer, asking her to continue to provide the necessary
   materials to the Council. 

Nov 8, 1993

   Council member Ren Songlin sent a message to the Council-l, complaining
   about not being aware of Bai Yan's joining the IT. Apparently, he forgot
   the notice from Dong Liqun regarding Bai Yan's participation in IT. 
   Ding Yungui replied.

Nov ?, 1993 

  Instead of complying to the Council's Finance Committee's request, the
  treasurer chosed to send a rebuttal to the Council on November ? on 
  public net, which was later carried by CCF with a rebuttal from FC.

  The IT sent out a long progressive report to the Council-l net,
  reporting their progress in inspection.

Nov 20, 1993 Council's second Teleconference
  The Finance Committee made a progressive report of the inspection.
  Jian Zuihong was asked to explain.
  Supervisory Committee Coordinator Luo Lishi rudely questioned and
  attacked Bai Yan's personally integrity and academic qualification.
  The normal proceeding of the meeting was interrupted.

  The Finance Committeee concluded that it would continue to work on it.

December 1993, after the Teleconference:
  Ding Yungui announced FC's progress, including the intention to extend
  IT into a taskforce, on behalf of Zhou Hongguang. 
  LJH appealed against Ding Yungui in regard to task force formation.

  HQ appealed against Zhou Hongguang about the inspection issue, charging  
  Zhou Hongguang of dishonesty, and questioning Bai Yan's qualification;

  HQ publicly attacked Zhou Hongguang's personal integrity in its news
  release.

  HQ announced its plan to invite external CPA to compile IFCSS' accounting
  record. Council FC released a memo to welcome
  the positive move of HQ, and required the HQ to submit to the Council
  a timetable of the bidding and inform the Council of the procedure.

  FC announced its plan to have a second on-site inspection.

  HQ openly refuses to receive Council IT, violating the IFCSSS By-laws and
  challenging the authority of the Council.
 
  On behalf of the Financial Committee and on behalf of the Council
  Chair, Zhou Hongguang travelled to D.C. alone in the hope to
  exchange views and reach a comprimising solution.

January 1994 
  Council Finance Committee released an Open Letter about the irregularities
  exsisted in IFCSS accounting record, and urge the Council members and
  CSS' to pay attention to the IFCSS financial situation in order to 
  make the HQ open its accounting record to the Council's auditing.

  Council Finance Committee appealed to SVC on Lin Changsheng's blocking of
  financial inspection.

  SVC begins to investigate on Bai Yan's joining IT and Ding Yungui's
  announcement of the taskforce. 
  
  Li Jinghong sent more appeals to SVC on the Open Letter.

  ...





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Subject: Re: Deleted my Name from Council Net's Mailing List
To: "Pang, Yang" <AGYXP@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>
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Chen Dong or Yungui:

Would you please inform the reader below how to unsubcribe council-l? Thanks
and reagrds.

Hongguang

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Yang Pang:

Your msg reveived. I'm requesting our Council Members in charge of the
council-l to help you. We do appreciate your initial interest in the IFCSS
affairs and hope you come back at any time convenient to you in the near
future.

Thanks and regards.

Zhou Hongguang
IFCSS Council Member from the Southwest.

On Mon, 17 Jan 1994, Pang, Yang wrote:

> Can you delete my name from the mailing list of the council net?
> 
> I am not in school every day and I only read my mails every two weeks,
> so there are too many mails in my account.
> 
> Since I don't know who is in control of the net, I got to bother you for
> this matter, sorry.
> 
> 
> PANG, YANG
> 1224 LEMON ST. #155
> TEMPE, AZ 85281
> (602) 265-4775 ( OFFICE )
> (602) 921-9223 ( HOME )
> E-MAIL ADRRESS: AGYXP@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU




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From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: Possible IFCSS Financial Scandal: Missing $0.23 Million (fwd)
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, ifcssvc@ifcss.org, svc93@ifcss.org
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The following is a msg appeared on the Chinese Student and Scholar Union
at Emory net. The name of the author is abscured on the request of the
author. Also the forwarding itself does not mean I agree or disgree to the
opinion expressed in the forwarded msg.

Thanks and regards,
Zhou Hongguang
IFCSS Council Member from the Southwest

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 12:08:11 -0500
From: xxxxxx xxx <xxxxxxxxx@unix.cc.emory.edu>
To: china@unix.cc.emory.edu
Subject: Possible IFCSS Financial Scandal: Missing $0.23 Million

Dear and poor Chinese fellows,
	What do you think about this. My opinion is that it's quite NORMAL
for the Chinese "politicians".
	Be care everybody, REN BU WEI JI, TIAN ZHU DI MIE. That the chinese
phylosophy which has no relation with communist or not.

	Happy holiday. (MLK's day)
					xxxxxxx



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Subject: Re: Rules are more important.
To: Xu Yi <XUY%UCONNVM.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
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Mr/Ms. Xu Yi:

Thank you for your attention concern over the fate of IFCSS.

Seems you are a IFCSS Vet, I would like to your help me with one
question:

Ever since the founding of the IFCSS, IFCSS has claimed in its
Constitution to represent all CSS in USA. 

If the IFCSS cannot present a clear finacnial book of the public funds,
which is under the trustee of the IFCSS, to the CSS,-- as a matter of fact
it is unfortunately the case now---, how can the IFCSS still claims to be
the organization for those CSS? If it violates some "regulations"
simply because of letting the CSS public know what they should know and
they must be informed of---the picture of the IFCSS HQ financial situation,
one cannot but ask why you IFCSS officials are so feard to let us, the average
CSS for whom you claim to represent know that? 

And why you, the Council Members, the Legal Persons of the IFCSS (please
refer to the IFCSS Constitution and the Maryland Corporation Law),
epsecially the those members who serve on the Finance Committee--" the
Financial Watchdog of the IFCSS Council", try so hard to keep us CSS from
knowing what's really going on with IFCSS?

If it is that case, the fate of IFCSS is really worriedsome. What do you
think?

Thanks and reagrds,

Zhou Hongguang
5th IFCSS Council Member from the Southwest

On Mon, 17 Jan 1994, Xu Yi wrote:

> Dear friends,
>     I have been listening to all the debate silently (sorry for the silence).
> However, I now feel the obligation to say a few words.
>     Much of the debate has been focused on the content of the open letter
> by the Council Financial Committee. I think what is more at stake is whether
> the IFCSS Constitution and bylaws and the Council bylaws were violated by
> those of the FC members responsible for the open letter. The FC, as a sub-
> committee of the Council, has no right whatsoever to act as an entity
> independent of the Council. In a case of Counsitiution violation as severe
> as this one, those who were responsible should be disciplined.
>     We have been too used to do and judge things based solely on truth values.
> The essence of democracy is play by the rules. If we can't guarentee that
> rules are seriously followed, there will be no future for IFCSS.
>     I do not mean to say that truth is not important. It is. However, the
> current crisis is a result of rule violation, rather than simple mis-
> interpretation of the truth.
> 
> Xu Yi




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	I don't know what has happened to this msg sent two times to
council-l.

Hongguang

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 02:34:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>
Subject: Suggest the working/roundtable meeting be postponed

Dear Colleages:

Since the weekend of Feb. 5 and 6 is the new year's eve weekend of the Srping
Festival, there will be lots of celebrations happening such as
get-togeters, party, dinner, and dancing party then here at Emory
University. Besides, the Chinese Embassdor to USA Mr. Li Dou-yu will be in
Atlanta around that weekend, I'll be actively interacting with him and his
attachee in respects of IFCSS role and the CCS community issues.

Also around that weekend, I will be in charge of a Chinese Film Review
shown on the campus, together with the local US-China Peoples' Friendship
Assocation. 

Last but not the least, according to the Chinese tradition, the Spring
Festiaval time is not good to travel out of door. So I think we should stay at
home to celebrate the Chinese New Year with our fellow country men.

Therefore, I will be not able to go DC around Feb. 5 and 6. I strong suggest
the working/round table meeting be postponed to a later date.

Thanks and regards.

Hongguang
Council Member from the Southwest 




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> Dear honorable SVC members:
> 
> In response to your call for reply to the investigation questionaire
> designed by the SVC, I am sending the following several messages which
> I hope will be of assistance to your investigation.
> 
> First of all, I am sorry I will not follow your questionair.
> I don't think only answering to those questions would give a complete
> description of the whole issue,considering its complicatedness and
> controversial nature. It is my hope that an understanding of the
> whole picture will be helpful to judge the appeals against me and
> Zhou Hongguang.
> 
> Another important request I would like to make here is:
> SVC member Luo Li-Shi should stand away from the investigation of these
> cases and the decision on them. The reason is simple: he has voluntarily
> involved himself in at least two of the most important occasions in
> the key dispute about Mr. Bai Yan's participation in the Inspection
> Team before the appeal cases were presented into the SVC.
> And he has had his strongly biased opinions well before the SVC investigations
> begins. That has been publicly known. (I will show you what role he has
> played in the whole process in my following messages.) Considering his
> deep involvement in the issue, I don't think he is still suitable 
> to sit on the bench of the judges. 
> 
> In the following, I plann to provide you:
> 
> 1. an unofficial record of the financial inspection;
> 2. Some notes on the record;
> 3. On Bai Yan's participation;
> 4. On my message to the Council on behalf of Zhou Hongguang;
> 5. On recent development of the issue;
> 6. A few words to conclude.
> 
> Due to my own busy study schedule, I may not be have all these ready
>                                                ^able to
> at once. I'll do my best. I understand you have set a deadline for
> us to respond. I would like to ask your permission of some more time
> for me to do the job.
> 
> I believe SVC as an institution will be able to make a fair judgement
> on the whole issue and make a fair decision on the appeal cases,
> although I do have reservations about Mr. Luo Li-Shi's impartiality.
> Even about Mr. Luo Li-Shi's opinions on the issue, I respect his right
> to have his own viewpoint. 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
> 
> Yungui Ding
> Council member from Mid-West
> Council co-chair
> 


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My reply to SVC (II): Some notes on the record

Yungui Ding


1. The whole process: A simple thing is not simple

Should it have been a simple thing from the very beginning? Yes, it should.

The Council's Finance Committee (FC) proposed a bill to the Council to conduct
an inspection of the HQ's financial record and property list in order to
asses the current situation of IFCSS' management and to submit to the Council
any recommendations to professionalize IFCSS's accounting practice.

It is a normal internal auditing procedure, it is a normal business, and it
is a normal operation. Normally, the bill is passed or rejected. If the bill
is passed, the FC would be authorized to conduct the inspection. If some 
FC members are too busy to go, others could help. If the FC considers 
necessary to have someone in the team having experience/expertise in accounting
it would be fine to call for and invite some more volunteers. It would not
be hard for the HQ to cooperte: just open the accounting books to the
Council' tema for inspection. Nobody would expect it to be perfect considering
that most workers of IFCSS are on volunterr or partial-volunteer basis. 
The FC then would give its report to the Council after the inspection process
is finished and probably some recommendations on how to improve the current
system and practice. Then the Council may consider the results and the 
suggestions, and may further pass some bill on financial regulations.

It could be so normal, and it could be so simple.

It was actually so normal a business that in the first session of the
Council's first Tele-Conference that most of the Council members did not
even pay much attention to the bill, which was initiated by Council FC
Chair Shen Tong and sponsored by the FC, although there was a
good debate on it. The bill was NOT passed due to too many absteins, with
very few strong yeah's or nay's.

The bill was reconsidered one week later (8/21/93) in the second session of
the Conference, and it was easily passed this time. Of course the more time
for the Council members to digest the bill and the whole situation helped
the re-consideration and the passing of the bill, but some political
manuvour that was intended to block the bill's reconsideration might have
contributed more to the situation.

Things seemed to become not that simple.

The bill was not passed without expense. The FC Chair, the initiator and
advocator of the bill, Council member Shen Tong had to ask to resign from
both the FC and the Council. She only agreed to stay in the positions upon
the request of many Council colleagues. 

Even so, things could still have been as simple as the business is.

Unfortuantely, what has come out is not what we could have imagined. 
The date of the on-site inspection had to be postponed again and again
due to the difficulty the FC had encountered to get needed materials
from the HQ. 

The inspection team (IT) finally got to the HQ offics on 11/6 to conduct
the on-site inspection. It could not start the work at the beginning due to
the questioning and blocking of an invited volunterr Bai Yan by President
Lin Changsheng and SVC Coordinator Mr. Luo Li-Shi. The disagreement was 
resolved on site after the communications among the Council Chair, IFCSS
President, IFCSS SVC Coordinator and members of the IT.

However, this issue somehow came up alive again and again later in the
process, being used as an excuse to block any further progress of the 
inspection, and finally making things into an extreme case.

Why and how did such a normal operation become so complicated?



2. Who is doing the work, who is making trouble

Thess questions are for the SVC and the CSS community to answer.
Take a look of the whole procedure, and note the key difficult 
points along the way. I believe you will find the answer.

>From the side of the Council's work, I just notice this:

   Shen Tong, initiator of the bill,
              was somehow forced to withdraw from the front line;

   Zhou Hongguang, 
              FC/IT member, coordinator of IT,
              was charged of "dishonesty" among other allegations;

   Ding Yungui
              was appealed against because of making a progressive 
              update of FC' work on behalf of Zhou Hongguang.
              
I would believe these were coincidences. However, it it unfortunate that
these "coincidences" could only be very effective to stop or slow down the
inspection process, which by no means will help IFCSS to anywhere.


Yungui Ding
IFCSS Council member
from Mid-West region

========================================
For your reference: My reply to SVC (I): 

--------------- an unofficial record of the whole issue ---------------------


August 14, 1993 Council Teleconference, 1st session
   Resolution on Financial Inspection of HQ, sponsored by the Council
   Finance Committee.

   Not passed. 

August 21, 1993 Council Teleconference, 2nd session
   The resolution was reconsidered, and passed.
   (Council Resolution CP5020).

   After the first sessioin, the HQ lobbied the Council members, trying
   to block the reconsidering of the resolution, on some occation in
   some unethical ways.

   As a result of a lot pressure, the Finance Committee Chair Shen Tong
   asked to resign from the Committee and from the Chair position in the
   second session. Requested by many, she agreed to remain in the Council,
   but she since then did not want to participate in the financial 
   inspection, which she had initiated and been advocating for.

The Finance Committee began to work on the inspection after the 
   Council's first Teleconference. An Inspection Team was formed with
   Mr Zhou Hongguang as the coordinator.
   
   The IT sent the inspection agenda to the HQ on September 7, 1993.

September 22, 1993
    
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ with the signatures of Council chair
   Dong Liqun, Co-chair Ding Yungui, and IT coordinator Zhou Hongguang (DDZ).
   The memo reiterates the IT's agenda and the request for needed accounting
   records. The HQ is extemely slow to give out the record.

October 7, 1993
   The Council sent a memo to the HQ, asking the required documents,
   and informing the HQ of the delay of the on site inspection due to the
   fact that the IT lacked of needed records. 

October 24, 1993
   Zhou Hongguang sent a memo to the HQ treasurer further asking documents.

October 28, 1993 

   The HQ sent a memo to the Council, claiming that the HQ had sent
   the listed documents to the IT.

   The Council replied right away with a memo signed by DDZ, stating it
   has not received the claimed documents and asking the HQ to cooperate
   with the Council by providing needed records. A detailed list of
   requested materials was sent alnong with the memo.   

October 20, 1993
   Council Chair Dong Liqun informed all Council members of Bai Yan's
   involvement in the IT work in his message updating the Council
   work. 

October 29, 1993
   The Council issued in its newsrelease to the CSS community a call for
   expertise in accounting and financial management, to help the Council
   in the course of professionalize IFCSS's finance system. Two responses
   (including Bai Yan's) were received.

   Bai Yan, was invited to join the IT. Council chair and co-chair were 
   informed of such arrangement, and they agreed with Bai Yan's going to DC. 

November 5-7: 
   The Council IT consisting of Council members Liu Chen,
   Qi Bing, and Zhou Hongguang, and invited volunteer Mr Bai Yan,
   were in the HQ to conduct the inspection. 

   President Lin Changsheng  and SVC Coordinator disagreed with Mr. Bai Yan's 
   participation in IT and therefore access to the accounting record. 
   Their refusal reason is that HQ was not informed of in advance.  

   The Council issued another memo to HQ, signed by DDZ, on Nov 6,
   reconfirming Bai Yan is authorized to be a member in the IT, and asking
   the HQ to give him the approriate previliges as other members
   according to the IFCSS Council Financial Regulations

   After the memo and communications between the Council Chair and Mr. Lin
   and Mr. Luo, President Lin Changsheng and SVC Coordinator Luo Li-Shi
   agreed to let Bai Yan participate in the inspection. IT started its work. 

   Because most of the financial records at the HQ is in chaotic states, 
   the IT had to do bookkeeping for the treasurer. IT did complete aduditing
   on site.

   On November 7, when the IT left HQ office, a memo was left to the 
   the IFCSS treasurer, asking her to continue to provide the necessary
   materials to the Council. 

Nov 8, 1993

   Council member Ren Songlin sent a message to the Council-l, complaining
   about not being aware of Bai Yan's joining the IT. Apparently, he forgot
   the notice from Dong Liqun regarding Bai Yan's participation in IT. 
   Ding Yungui replied.

Nov ?, 1993 

  Instead of complying to the Council's Finance Committee's request, the
  treasurer chosed to send a rebuttal to the Council on November ? on 
  public net, which was later carried by CCF with a rebuttal from FC.

  The IT sent out a long progressive report to the Council-l net,
  reporting their progress in inspection.

Nov 20, 1993 Council's second Teleconference
  The Finance Committee made a progressive report of the inspection.
  Jian Zuihong was asked to explain.
  Supervisory Committee Coordinator Luo Lishi rudely questioned and
  attacked Bai Yan's personally integrity and academic qualification.
  The normal proceeding of the meeting was interrupted.

  The Finance Committeee concluded that it would continue to work on it.

December 1993, after the Teleconference:
  Ding Yungui announced FC's progress, including the intention to extend
  IT into a taskforce, on behalf of Zhou Hongguang. 
  LJH appealed against Ding Yungui in regard to task force formation.

  HQ appealed against Zhou Hongguang about the inspection issue, charging  
  Zhou Hongguang of dishonesty, and questioning Bai Yan's qualification;

  HQ publicly attacked Zhou Hongguang's personal integrity in its news
  release.

  HQ announced its plan to invite external CPA to compile IFCSS' accounting
  record. Council FC released a memo to welcome
  the positive move of HQ, and required the HQ to submit to the Council
  a timetable of the bidding and inform the Council of the procedure.

  FC announced its plan to have a second on-site inspection.

  HQ openly refuses to receive Council IT, violating the IFCSSS By-laws and
  challenging the authority of the Council.
 
  On behalf of the Financial Committee and on behalf of the Council
  Chair, Zhou Hongguang travelled to D.C. alone in the hope to
  exchange views and reach a comprimising solution.

January 1994 
  Council Finance Committee released an Open Letter about the irregularities
  exsisted in IFCSS accounting record, and urge the Council members and
  CSS' to pay attention to the IFCSS financial situation in order to 
  make the HQ open its accounting record to the Council's auditing.

  Council Finance Committee appealed to SVC on Lin Changsheng's blocking of
  financial inspection.

  SVC begins to investigate on Bai Yan's joining IT and Ding Yungui's
  announcement of the taskforce. 
  
  Li Jinghong sent more appeals to SVC on the Open Letter.

  ...

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   Meeting Chair,

   I will be in presence for the Council First E-mail Conference starting
   3:00pm PST (6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email
   network.

   I approve (or disapprove) the proposed conference schedule, order
   and rules.

   My e-mail wangy@rintintin.colorado.edu


   Wang Yu  (Signed)
   Member of IFCSS 5th Council
   Representing Region: __________ 

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******************************************************
	Urgent appeal to all of council members 
	about the Council e-mail conference
******************************************************


	The Council First E-mail Conference started at 3:00pm PST
(6:00pm EST), Thursday, Jan. 13, 1994, in the council email 
network (council-l and council-wn). The Mr. Dong Liqun (Chair 
of Council) had call all of the council members to attend the
meeting on Jan. 10, 1994. Until today (Jan. 18, 1994), I found 
out there are only 11 council member are sign on the conference.
They are Dong Liqun, Chen Dong, Zhang Li, Wang Jing, Xu Datong, 
Liang Er, Shao Qing, Fan Hongran, Ren Songlin, Wang Yu, Zhang Fen (?). 
I urgently appeal the council Chair and all of the members
in the council:

(1) The council Chair should immediate to call all of the council
member. If the number of member signed on the meeting is enough
for quorum, we should start to vote as soon as possible.

(2) The member who did not sign on the conference will be recognized 
as absent for any one of the council meetings without proper reasons,
except who has not received the meeting call from council chair or has 
problems to connect network or to call chair through the telephone.   

(3) According to Meeting Agenda, the the main issues of the conference 
plan to discuss the financial inspection of IFCSS including 
(i) On CPA "bidding"** and
(ii) On Finance Committee's Open Letter. 
Since some of the Financial Committee member in the network but failed 
to sign on the conference, we should re-form the council finance 
committee or replace the person who fail to sign on the meeting. 

(4) We decide the CPA as soon as possible and force them give us the 
report the IFCSS financial system in the Feb.working meeting on Washington DC.

We should do our best for the bounden duty of IFCSS council.


Songlin Ren (Signed)
The 5th IFCSS Council Member from Northeast.
Jan. 18, 1994   

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From:	IN%"shusheng@oce.orst.edu" 23-NOV-1993 15:13:21.62
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Dear Mr. Chen Dong,

Thank you for informing CCF of the existence of "the IFCSS Treasuer's respond
to the report".  Would you please send CCF a copy?  CCF will be pleased to
carry the story from the other side (on any issues) as long as there are such
contributions.  With the mentioned response from the Treasurer, CCF may make
a second special issue on this subject.

Best regards,

Luan Shusheng
Executive Editor, CCF

------------------------
>From dong@wam.umd.edu Mon Nov 22 23:10:47 1993
To: ccf-editor@ifcss.org
Subject: Re:  CCF #9320, Nov 23: "Progress Report on IFCSS Financial Inspection"
Dear editor,
	I am glad to see the finance report of IFCSS on CCF.
However, I am somewhat disappointed to see the IFCSS Treasuer's respond to
the report missing. Without such, reader will only get an incompleted view
of the matter. Hope you can at least include it in the next issue.

IFCSS council member
Dong Chen



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It seems that council-l has problem theses days.
I don't know what's going on, including the called email conference.

Liqun just told me that he has called off the email conference
(on Sunday evening).

I also just talked to Chen Dong, he told me he did not know it.

Shen Tong just told me that she did not sign up.
And She also confirmed that the conferenced was cancalled by
the Chair.


Yungui 

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From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
Subject: On the CPA Selection
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To: IFCSS HQ
cc: IFCSS Council, IFCSS SVC
From: Liqun Dong, Chair of IFCSS Council


I have noticed that the HQ has selected Mr. Jeff Lin, a CPA, to work on 
the IFCSS accounting system, It IS a good move ot professionalize IFCSS 
finance system. But to think about on when and how to initiate the CPA 
bid, and on teh lack of thoroughgoinh discussion among the councils, I 
have to remind HQ of that such a selection can not be treated as the 
Council's consent as whole, and that the Council will reserve its right 
to further review and debate on the procedure of the auditing, the facts 
of IFCSS finance system, and all possible results thereafter.

I hope HQ can submit the Council all the information of the auditing 
procedure and the comments and suggections from selected CPA, Mr. Jeff 
Lin as soon as possible.


Liqun Dong


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Yes! I second Chen Dong's emergent motion.

Songlin Ren (signed)
The 5th IFCSS Council Member from Northeast


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******************************************************
	
	<<<<<<	MY   VOTE >>>>>>

******************************************************

Dear Chair and all of council memebers:

I vote YES for CPA recommendation of HQ.     
I vote YES for CP5026.     
I vote YES for CP5027.     
I vote YES for CP5028.     


Songlin Ren (Signed)
The 5th IFCSS Council Member from Northeast.
Jan. 19, 1994   

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******************************************************
	
	<<<<<<	MY   VOTE >>>>>>

******************************************************

Dear Chair and all of council memebers:

I vote YES for CM5010.     


Songlin Ren (Signed)
The 5th IFCSS Council Member from Northeast.
Jan. 19, 1994   

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 20:18:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
To: Yuhe Liu <yuhe@cumulus.gcn.uoknor.edu>
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Subject: Re: Please open the email meeting to the public

Dear Yuhe:

    Thanks very much for your concern on the proposed e-mail meeting. It 
seems obviously that the council net "council-l" doesn't run normally in 
these days. Many councils have complained that they have not received 
some mails and I have such a problem, too. To furthre consider that there 
are many councils who don't have their regular e-mail account and others 
even almost cannot access e-mail system, I've just felt that email system 
might be not an appropriate way for the 5th term council to conduct 
conference. 

    Keep in tough.


Liqun Dong



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testing for council-l

wang jing

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Liqun,

	Very good!

Wang Jing
______________________________________________________________________________

>From: Liqun Dong, Chair of IFCSS Council
> 
> 
> I have noticed that the HQ has selected Mr. Jeff Lin, a CPA, to work on 
> the IFCSS accounting system, It IS a good move ot professionalize IFCSS 
> finance system. But to think about on when and how to initiate the CPA 
> bid, and on teh lack of thoroughgoinh discussion among the councils, I 
> have to remind HQ of that such a selection can not be treated as the 
> Council's consent as whole, and that the Council will reserve its right 
> to further review and debate on the procedure of the auditing, the facts 
> of IFCSS finance system, and all possible results thereafter.
> 
> I hope HQ can submit the Council all the information of the auditing 
> procedure and the comments and suggections from selected CPA, Mr. Jeff 
> Lin as soon as possible.
> 
> 
> Liqun Dong

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> After talk with Liqun, I agree to amend my early motion so that it reads
> we postpone the deadline of the meeting to 5:59pm Saturday, Jan 22, 1994.

	I second.  

	Vote: yeah!

Wang Jing 

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I suggest continue the email meeting.

I do prefer the tele-conference, but to discuss which meeting to hold will
probably take another weeks, as we have seen it by now.

>From the council bylaw, Council Chair has the privilege to call for a meeting.
As we already have the quorum now for the email meeting now, we should we
detour for something else ?
So I suggest continue our email meeting until we see an official announce
for call for the meeting by Chair and we are ACTUALLY going to have the
teleconference. By then, we can transfer the email meeting to teleconference.

Also, below is my arguement for canceling the email meeting I posted yesterday.
------------------------
I disagree with Liqun's call.
First, Wang Yu, Shao Qin IS on the line, which make 11 of 16 members
        explictly expressed sign on the meeting.
Second, Qi Bin, Liu Cheng, Zhou Hongguang, Ding Yungui is avtively on
        the same line at the same time, which make them effectively in
        the meeting, unless they denounce so.
Third, from Robert's Rule page 180, the last paragraph,
        "The presiding officer at a meeting shouldn't take the chair until
        a quorum is present unless there's no hope of a quorum attending.
        Then no business can be transacted except to Adjourn (section 11).
        If no one objects, debate may continue, but the only vote that may
        be taken is the one for adjourn."
        1. Liqun haven't  had the chance to take the chair,
        2. No vote for adjourn had been called,
        3. I expressed my objection to adjourn after I learnt Liqun's
           decision when I called Liqun,
        4. The quorum was actuall reached later, so there was hope.

          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
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/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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Mr. Chair,
	Xu Datong asked me to cast his vote for him last night,

	1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
	  yes
	2.      CPA proposal by HQ
	  yes
	3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
	  yes
	4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
	  yes
	5.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"
	  yes
          __                                         Mail address:
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  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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Mr. Chair,
	Liang Er ask me to cast his vote as,

1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
  yes
2.      CPA proposal by HQ
  yes
3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
  yes
4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
  yes
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  yes
          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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Mr. Chair,
	Here is my vote
1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
  yes
2.      CPA proposal by HQ
  yes
3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
  yes
4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
  yes
5.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"
  yes
          __                                         Mail address:
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  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
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From DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov  Wed Jan 19 15:45:23 1994
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Liqun and other colleagus,

The called email conference is in a messy situation.

1. the quorum became enough after Liqun called it off.

2. While nobody called a roll, I only see Mr Ren Songlin posted
   a list of sign-ups.

3. While Liqun is considering how the conference should be
   held, and is obviously not chairing the meeting,
   Chen Dong seems to be the one in the chair's position
   to make all the announcements and requirements,
   Should Liqun be the Chair to make things proceed,instead of other
   Council members?

4. It is not a good thing to move the Council discussion from
   council-l to council-wn.
   We have seen Chen Dong forwarding all kinds of messages to
   council-wn, with HIS OWN words ahead and his own titles.
   That is sometimes very misleading.
   Dong is also fowarding votes for others. 

Considering such situations, let's wait for Liqun's decision 
and don't assume the email conference is going on.


Yungui

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Status: RO

I agree with what Zhang Feng posted.
After reviewing the whole event unfolded so far, I am unsatisfied with HQ
for many of its handling of the matter. 

HQ could cooperate much better, and communicate with our council members
more often. Their side should take some responsibility for the mess now.
And future HQ should learn the lesson.

	Meanwhile, even I viewed a lot of HQ's action non-professional, but
not yet be able to find them violent any rule explictly (this might be still
debate-able and we should investigate further in the future).

	However the HQ had done, though, it gives no right for our council
members to violent the rule ourselves. Within the system, we have formal
procedures to solve the dispute. But these important links are missing. Worst,
the rule violentions just went too far later on. Here's the simplified
conversation between me and Hongguang last night. I take fully responsiblity
for what I post here.

Chen Dong:	Did you sign on the meeting ? I notice you are actively on
		network, maybe you just forgot to send a formal sign on
		letter.
Zhou Hongguang:	[do not want to admit, but finally said] I did not sign on.
C:	The bylaw requires every council member to attend the meeting.
Z:	Dong Liqun called off the meeting.
C:	If you signed on, then we had the quorum, and the meeting won't be
	called off. What about before Liqun called off ?
Z:	I did not received the call for emeeting, the council network
	wasn't working.
C:	I also send a personal mail to you of the package.
Z:	I didn't receive it.
C:	I called you before the meeting start, and informed you in person.
Z:	It was early at the morning, I don't remember what we said.
[later after awhile, the same argue came back again]
C:	(something like no attending the meeting is violent the bylaw)
Z:	You have no right to impeach me.
C:	I didn't say I will impeach you now, I just tell you how serious
	you actions are.
Z:	Look at how stupid you are. What public image you think we will get
	when you proposed your resolutions.
C:	I welcome openly debate about my resolution. You can debate again
	and vote again my resolutions.
Z:	I am not going to vote.
C:	Can we openly confront about what we talked about tonight ?
Z:	I didn't say anything tonight.
C:	Then can I ask you again about these question ?
Z:	I don't need to talk to you.
C:	Fine, bye.


Now the nature question is what is the right way to solve the dispute ?
Here's outline of what I think we should have done:
	1. FC investigate the whole issue
	2. Report to council about the difficulty and the primer result
	3. Council issue resolutions if necessary
	4. (If HQ still not cooperate) Council appeal to SVC
	5. SVC and Council order HQ to follow the procedure
	6. (if still not resolved) SVC and Council gives a report to CSS
	   and possiblly call for impeachment of HQ.

Look at what we did ? The FC bypassed Council to issue News Release, Open
Letters. Individule member send memos in the whole Council's name.
Invited a third party for IT and went to DC without inform other council
member. Announce an Inspection Task Froce without inform other council member.
Boycott council meeting.... This just a few serious one I picked up.

Now, dear colleagues, do we need any common rules in the Council or not ?
Do you still think the FC can work professionally with such an emotion
involved ?
Just ask yourself, what do we want to achieve this term ?
Is this what we called professionalizing IFCSS ?

At the very begining, I stated that we should handle the whole issue
professional way. I proposed to hire a CPA right between the first
tele-conference. But I was told, if we hire a CPA, we will ruin IFCSS's
reputation because there are a lot of dark side story there; we can not
afford to hire a CPA; we will be put in jail if we hire a CPA; we want
protect IFCSS's name not expose the issue to public.
And look what we got.

Think it over, please post your opinion and cast your vote.

Dong Chen,

          __                                         Mail address:
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/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  /  "Do you know why communist
 __________________________________________/ /    can not be a good C++
/___________________________________________/     programer ?"   --D.C.


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From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: Who is the Council Chair?
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, council-wn@ifcss.org
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To: IFCSS Council
From: Zhou Hongguang, the Council Member from the Southeast
RE: Chen Dong's claim
Date: 1/19/94

Who is the Council Chair? Seems Mr Chen Dong is functioning as the Chair
by claiming the council is in meeting while Dong Liqun has called off the
meeting last Saturday, which was confirmed by Shen Tong. We are not sure
what's happened to the Council-l to which Dong Liqun sent his
announcement ( as a matter of fact, I and other members lost many
important mails after we sent them to council-l), but we do know it is who has
wildly sent numuous mails with lots of claims to the Council-l and is still
cliaming the already-called-off meeting is still on. We would like to ask
Mr. Chen Dong: Has Dong Liqun switched his resposibility of the Council
Chair to you? When? By what means? As the Chair of the Council Rules
Committee, you'd better to follow the rules.

Another thing is that I said NOTING to Mr. Chen Dong last night as he
claimed in his mail, which may be a day-dream product of his. Because I've
already learned a lesson from the fact that my previous words in a
telephone conversation with a former IFCSS officer was exploited by others,
I have never say anything over telephone to anyone who is with unnamed
motivations ever since.



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Dear Chen Dong,

I hope you are more careful when you acuse your colleagues in the Council
of so many serious "misconducts". For example, can you be sure Liqun did not
send a message to everyone about Bai Yan's in the IT well before the IT
went to DC. I would like to suggest you go back to check your email reocrd
before you make more allegations.


Yungui

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I view it very inapproriate to forward personal record of private
conversations into the Council's work net. Even if you decide it
is necessary to discredit your colleagues personally, use some
other argument in a responsible matter.


Yungui

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From: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: (For Your Record): Taiwan Trip, Auditing, and My Acount (fwd)
To: ifcss <council-l@ifcss.org>, council-wn@ifcss.org
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Mr. Chen Dong:

Would you please check your computer record before you accuse any of your
colleages next time. The follwing is for your record.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 22:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
To: IFCSS Council <council-wn@ifcss.org>
Subject: Taiwan Trip, Auditing, and My Acount

To All Council colleagues:

1. Taiwan Trip.  IFCSS delegates group will visit taiwan from Feb 16 to
March 2 or 3. Taiwan will pay half of airplane fee and expense in Taiwan.
And all the participators need to pay anohter half travel fee. Please send
me a mail or a fax no later than Oct 28 if you are interested in this
trip. 


2. IFCSS Accounts Auditing. I hope we can finish this tough event as soon
as possible. Yes, there might be some problems in the IFCSS financial
system and it definitely should be improved. But at first, we should find
out what and where the problem(s) is(are). The second teleconference will
be coming soon. Thanks for Qi Bing, Liu Chen, and Hongguang's hard work
and Bai Yan's help. Hopefully, we can complete the auditing soon.
--------------------

3. My E-Mail Account.I cannot assess my e-mail system normally because the
primary mail system in our uninversity is very very slow and goes down
frequently in this quarter. Sorry for having missed many of your mails
recently. I have to switch my mail account for our IFCSS affairs to
"liqun@hardy.u.washington.edu". Yungui, please replace my old account by
this one.


Best Regards,


Liqun Dong








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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 10:25:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
To: IFCSS Council <council-wn@ifcss.org>
Subject: To Cancel the Proposed e-mail Meeting. (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 20:28:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
To: IFCSS Council <council-l@ifcss.org>
Cc: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: To Cancel the Proposed e-mail Meeting.

To: IFCSS Council Members, IFCSS HQ
From: Liqun Dong, Chairperson of IFCSS Council

Until now, more than 75 hours passed after the scheduled openning-time of 
the e-mail meeting, only nine (9) of our sixteen (16) councils have 
informed me their attendance of the meeting through some kinds of 
methods. They are Chen Dong, Ren Songlin, Zhang Li, Xu Datong, Liang Er, 
Fan Hongran, Zhang Feng, Wang Jing, and Dong Liqun. Unfortunately, this 
number (9) is less than the quorum required. So, I have to cancel the 
proposed meeting.

Meanwhile, some councils have expressed their strong concern on the 
consequences of the Finance Committee's open letter. I hope the Finance 
Committee can seriously consider others' opinions before any further 
action is taken.


Liqun Dong (signed)
Chairperson of IFCSS Council





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>of so many serious "misconducts". For example, can you be sure Liqun did not
>send a message to everyone about Bai Yan's in the IT well before the IT
>went to DC. I would like to suggest you go back to check your email reocrd

I bring up the facts as best of my knowledge.
After Bai Yan went to D.C., HQ called me to ask why we council did inform
them. I then called Liqun. He told me he didn't know that. Later, he said
he knew Bia Yan was in the IT and involved about one weeks before. But he
stated he did not know Bia Yan was going to D.C. until the last minutes.

After I check my message, I did not see any thing Liqun post about Bai Yan,
except at a mail informed us the taiwan trip, he said he also want to
Bai Yan's help for Finance Committee.

Here is the earliest message every send to council (council-wn, council-l)
and it was from Liqun'

-------------------
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Taiwan Trip, Auditing, and My Acount
To: IFCSS Council <council-wn@ifcss.org>

To All Council colleagues:

.....

2. IFCSS Accounts Auditing. I hope we can finish this tough event as soon
as possible. Yes, there might be some problems in the IFCSS financial
system and it definitely should be improved. But at first, we should find
out what and where the problem(s) is(are). The second teleconference will
be coming soon. Thanks for Qi Bing, Liu Chen, and Hongguang's hard work
and Bai Yan's help. Hopefully, we can complete the auditing soon.

-------------------

Don't believe me. Do research yourself. And colleagues, do you remember when
was the first time you knewn about Bai Yan's involvement, and when did you
know he was in the IT, when did you know he actually went to DC.

I also  digged out some files related to IT's personal (as much as I can),
please correct me.

=====================
>From labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu  Wed Sep  1 00:20:13 1993
Subject: Inspection Agenda (Draft)
......
Proposed by Finance Committee  Drafted by Zhou Hongguang
......
2. Parties involved:
2.1     IFCSS Council: Shen Tong, Qi Bing, Zhou Hongguang
2.2     HQ:     President and Treasurer of the 4th term
                President and Treasurer of the 5th term
2.3     IFCSS SVC: one member as an observer:
.....
=====================
>From chair  Wed Sep 22 23:07:09 1993
>From:    Dong Liqun (signed), IFCSS Council Chair
         Ding Yungui (Signed), IFCSS Council Co-chair
         IFCSS Council Finance Committee (signed, Zhou Hongguang)
........
Mr. Zhou Hongguang will be coordinating the whole process of inspection.
He will contact the HQ staff for detailed arrangement of the insepction
The Council will appreciate your cooperation.
........
Enclosure:

                        Agenda
                          for
The Site Examination of IFCSS HQ Financial and Assets Situation
                           by
              IFCSS Council Inspection Team
                    September 7, 1993
Proposed by Finance Committee  Drafted by Zhou Hongguang

1. Time and Place

1.1     Time: Undecided
1.2     Place: IFCSS HQ Office, Washington, D.C.

2. Parties involved:

2.1     IFCSS Council: Shen Tong, Qi Bing, Zhou Hongguang
2.2     HQ:     President and Treasurer of the 4th term
                President and Treasurer of the 5th term
............
=========================
>From chair  Sat Nov  6 20:22:23 1993
Subject: Memo: The Council Inspection Team Has Been in D.C.
Date:  November 6, 1993

To:    IFCSS HQ
Cc:    IFCSS Supervisory Committee, council-l net

>From:  IFCSS Council
       Signed by:       Dong Liqun, Chair;
                        Ding Yungui, Co-Chair
                        Zhou Hongguang, Coordinator of the Inspection Team
Subj:  The Inspection Team Is in DC


The Council Inspection Team of 4 members have been in DC to inspect
the IFCSS HQ's accounting and property records.

Besides Council members Mr Liu Chen, Mr. Qi Bing, and Mr. Zhou Hongguang,
the Council has invited Mr. Bai Yan of Texas to join the team to provide
some technical help to the financial matters.

It is pitiful that the HQ had not been informed of the Inspection Team
composition in advance. We are sorry if that caused any inconvennience to
the process of the inspection.

The council is grateful that Mr. Bai Yan volunteers his time and expertise
to help the cause of IFCSS. While his coming to the HQ as one of the
team members, as authorized by the Council, is in compliance with the
IFCSS Financial Regulation (see article 11), we hope he will be given the
proper privilege the inspection team members are entitled.

Your continuing cooperation will be highly appreciated.
================================
>From songlin@buphy.bu.edu  Mon Nov  8 08:50:19 1993
>From:  Songlin Ren
        5th IFCSS Council Member

To:       All members of 5th IFCSS Council Member
        and
                    Dong Liqun, Chair;
                        Ding Yungui, Co-Chair
                        Zhou Hongguang, Coordinator of the Inspection Team

Subj:  PROTEST

Who has the authority to invite Mr. Bai Yan to be the team of Council? As a
Council member I do not know anything about this. The Chair and Co-Chair or
financial committee have NOT inform any Council member before the matter.
Chair and Co-Chair have NOT have such power to say "Council invite Mr. Bai
Yan" as a Financial Team. Mr. Bai Yan is NOT invited be COUNCIL !!!
It is very good for the inspection  that Mr. Bai Yan be volunteer to do this.
I am appreciate his help. BUT at least the Financial Committee or
Chair should inform all of the Council member before he come to HQ.
At this point, I am STRONG against the  action and I PROTEST the
Chair and Co-Chair and Financial Committee !!!

We should know the Chair and Co-Chair are not special member of the
Council. They only can speak out under the CouncilUs decision. The
Financial Committee is a working committee in the Council, it can not
independent to do anything. The inspection was decided by last
Teleconference, but we do not give them the rightto invite any one.

Songlin Ren
5th IFCSS Council Member
===================================


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To:	Mr. Chen Dong, Chair of the Rules Committee

From:	Zhou Hongguang, Council Member from the Southeast

RE:	Are you the Council's Rule Chair or the HQ's Rule Chair?

Date:	1/19/94

As the Chair of the Council Rules Committee, you have the responsiblility
of reminding the all parties concerned to follow the rules. However, you
seem very biased in practice. When the HQ refused to continued to
implement the Council's Resolution on Auditing, you should remind the HQ
of the consequences of such a act. But you have choosen to keep in silince
and never remind your colleage at the Council that that act violates the
rules of the IFCSS.

Again, Mr. Lin Changsheng did not inform of any council member before he
landed in Beijing, again, you keep silent and has not yet stand out to
point out this action is breaking the rules.

However, when the Finance Committee had to present its report to the
Council and the public, you couldn't help jumping up. You want
silince the Finance Committee without any legal bases with current IFCSS
Constitution and by-laws. 

When the authority of the Council and your colleages at the
Council is stamped down by the HQ, you feel confortable and never bother to
point out the violation of the rules. When the Finance Committee carries
out its responsibility to executing the Council's resolution by reminding the
Council and the public, who has every right to know about everything about
the IFCSS, we don't understand why you feel very uncomfortable and
deactiviate the Finance Commiittee, the financial watchdog of the Council.

Sure, we won't ask your motivation, but we would like to ask are you the
Rules Chair for the Council or for the HQ?



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>I view it very inapproriate to forward personal record of private
conversations into the Council's work net. Even if you decide it

It is not personal conversation. We were discussion council's issues.
I don't want to "discredit your colleagues personally", he can openly
confront me if he like.

If you all agree this is a serious discussion, argue based on facts.

Dong,
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1. I was never claimed to be the Chair.
   What I did was, as normal, prepare the package, include the resolutions,
   recommendations, meeting agenda to council member.
   It is also my duty to remind the council member of our agenda.
2. I have my right to post my discussions, comment on other's discussions.
3. I was not awear of the meeting was called off. When I learnt Liqun's call,
   I immediately expressed my objection.
   (refer to my comment about Robert's Rule on call off the meeting.)
   I didnot and do not agree the meeting is called off.
4. The council-l was not function. So I got help to dig out all the post I
   thought did not reach out other members, by went though all the archieve
   files.
5. There are no bias from my forwarding. I forwarded all the mails, include
   yours. All the forwarding are completed, they are not excerpts.
   People need hear debate from both side, not just my side.
6. Even though you do not admit we talked, my telephone bill will show that.

Let's be rational.

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Thanks for remind me.
That is exactly I just send out.

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Thankfully, if you read my fwd email, you will see I forward this one
also. This is just an example that my forwarding was not "biased" :-(

Dong,
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Sorry, in my last mail, I made a typo. My apology.

I wrote:
>After Bai Yan went to D.C., HQ called me to ask why we council did inform
                                                                   ^ not
>them. I then called Liqun. He told me he didn't know that. Later, he said

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Get things straight!

I am the Rule Committee of Council not HQ, thanks for you pointed out.
Hence my duty is within the council.

As a council member, I expressed my unsatisfaction of some of their
actions. However, as I pointed out yesterday, I did not find any direct
rule violentions of HQ's behavior. If majority of council members thinks
HQ violent the rules, again as I pointed out yesterday, we should seek the
normal procedure, pass a resolution, appeal to SVC, then brought it to
public and possiblly impeach them.

But as council member, I am responsible for people who elected me.
I, and nobody, should play buddy-buddy.

If there are truth, it is the truth. Not Hq's truth, FC's truth, or
council's truth.
If you don't agree, give me the facts, quote the bylaw, Robert's Rule.

Dong,

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Chen Dong,

Since Liqun had informed all of us in the network of Bai Yan's 
involvement in the Council's auditing work, we could not say we
did not know anything about it, could we?


Yungui

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>Since Liqun had informed all of us in the network of Bai Yan's 
>involvement in the Council's auditing work, we could not say we
>did not know anything about it, could we?

Sure, we know Bai Yan helped, as I know other people helped also.
But how much do we know besides this ?
Did we have the procedure or not ?

Let's not shift the issue. The major issue of the meeting is about the
"Open Letter" and the consequence.

Dong,

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Subject: Hot Dogs
Status: R

Hi, Chen Dong,

Could you do me a favor by forwarding the following on the Council
net?

Thanks you very much.

Liyue

*************************************************************************

     With so much interesting, I have read all the messages regarding
the issues of the FC open letter and the on coming council email meeting.
I feel very uneasy that some of our council colleagues are totally in love
of so called in-nest struggling, or Wo1 Li3 Dou4. Is that the image of
our beloved IFCSS? Is that the first step of the professionalizing of the
Council operation?

    Here, I'd like to share some of my personal points about these "Hot
Dogs":

    (1) THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE HQ, SVC AND THE COUNCIL. To my
understanding, this relationship should be COOPERATION. Back to the
IFCSS short history, I find the IFCSS can serve the CSS community
most only when the "Big Three" was in a healthy constructive cooperation.
I guess all the VCs agree with at this point. IFCSS philosophy is NOT 
struggling philosophy. 

       Now, the question is how can we build up a constructive relationship
within the IFCSS? The answer is UNDERSTANDING. A week ago, FC posted an 
open letter upon the HQ financial saturation, let's assume all the numbers
in that open letter are the FACTS, but, may I ask a question: Are these 
only the partial facts, or the complete facts ? If the open letter gave
us incomplete HQ financial records, I suggest the FC retreat all its 
offensive accuses to the HQ and its staffs, and write another open letter
to apology to CSS for its mistakes. If FC's numbers is complete and 
correct, some of the HQ staffs should in a law suit, and the FC's work
will be appreciated by the CSS. I called one of the FC member a week ago
about the open letter, I asked him: do you have any idea how much money
the HQ spend a year usually? He said he had no idea. So, I think the FC
has NO UNDERSTANDING at all to HQ at least on IFCSS financial operation.
I hope every thing should be clear on the Feb Round-table meeting.

       Well, besides the not-understanding, I feel so bad about some 
personal attacks in these open letter debates. Before all the facts
be cleared, DO NOT accuse anybody personally. In a message I read
few days ago, as for my feeling, Treasure Jiang Zhui Hong was almost
accused to be a criminal upon the unconfirmed data. This makes me recall 
"the Great Culture Revolution". Is that the "China style professionalism" 
of our Council?

     (2) Focus on the important issues which the most CSS concern. The
IFCSS president is in China now, this is a historical contact between
the IFCSS and the Chinese government, I guess many of our CSS are in
deep concern on this event. If the council member can really reflect
the local CSS opinions, could the council members collect their local
CSS concerns for the HQ, in order the HQ can really image our CSS's
demands to the Chinese government. 

        Up to this point, I strongly support Chenjian and other VC's
suggestion, spend out time on the discussion of the future of IFCSS,
I personally do not like IFCSS guys in a hot "Wo1 Li3 Do4" (in-nest
struggling).

    (3) Some guys talking about "politics" in their debates. To my
knowledge, running politics is for the POWER, it should follow
rules. If anyone does not involve in the power, not follow rules, 
he is no more than a journalist, not a politician.


Thanks for your reading,

Liyue Mu

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Dear Council Members:

Here are several points That I would like to make:

1)  The big issue right now is to settle the dispute over the financial 
    situation of the HQ.  Given today's condition, seems like the only
    way to do that is to hire a professional CPA to do it.  Let's make
    decision on which CPA to hire, set up a time table to work with, and 
    make our conclusion based on the report from CPA.  Let's focus our
    debate on this issue, not to speculate the financial operation on
    our own.  Quite frankly, once we hire a CPA, this financial issue
    is pretty much out of the Council's hands.  Let's wait for the report. 

    FC had claimed all along that they don't have complete info., I think
    it is safe to say neither do other council members.  So there is not
    much point to argue about HQ's finacial situation.

2)  If we decided to hire a CPA, there will be a issue of coordinating 
    their auditing/book-keeping (sorry for my inadequate vocabulary in
    this area) with the Council.  Seems that fitts well with FC's 
    function.  On the other hand, the sole purpose of the IT seems perish
    once we hire a CPA.  Regarding Mr. Cheng Dong's resolution on 
    deactivating the FC, I recommand the following changes:
    a) Dismiss the IT.
    b) Expand FC to include new Council member(s) from third party(so to 
       speak). 
    c) FC will be coordinating CPA with the Council. 
    If Mr. Cheng dissagree with me, I would like to rephrase the above
    points and propose it as a resulution. 

3)  My personal belief is: if we leave a subcommittee intact, we have to
    let it function fully.  However, given the FC's behavior on the Open
    Letter issue, I think it is necessary to define the power of a subcom.
    (FC in this case) more specifically, restrain it if needed.  The OL
    seems to be intended for public without the knowledge of the Council,
    and that is not following the rule.  I agree with Mr. Cheng Dong's
    resolution on defining the function of subcom.  Particularly, I want
    to propose restrains on FC's power in dealing with the public.  No
    more this kind of OL signed by FC yet without the knowledge and 
    confidence of the Council.

4)  Through out the course of the issue, emotion has played a role that
    is disproportional to its usefulness.  Let's try to be more rational.
    Let's try to down play the feeling of "If I don't go to hell, who does?"
    If you think you are in this thing, you are in this with other people.
    We are all in this togather.  Try not to throw away your confidence
    in your collegues.  Because if you do, so would they.  Like confidence
    in other people, rule is also a double edged swaord. If you follow
    it, you have a firm ground.  But if you decided to get off the track,
    it will hurt you.  Give the system a chance, try to solve disbute in
    the system.  Besides, if you don't trust the system, what is the point 
    to stay in it?  This is the chance and place to speak, by all means
    speak up and don't say :"I am not saying anything."

5)  As you might know, I am not involved in the decition making for most
    part of the issue.  But if it is true that the Council formed the FC
    with its full confidence, if it is true that the Council adopted the
    resolution to audit HQ's finacial activity, if it is true that the FC
    formed IT with the knowledge of the Council, for peace's sake, stand
    behind the decisions.  There is not much to it.  If the Council decides
    to change them, so be it.  But before it does, what's the ground for
    accusing those decisions?
    
6)  People are eager to jump up and accuse the HQ of bad book-keepin, how
    is it with the Council?  I have seen members argue about whether the
    Council did this or that.  Maybe we can release the record/log (if
    we have one) to members at least and get the facts straighten out.
    Seems everybody has a version of the story.  It is not worth the trouble
    to argue about them.  Get the facts out.  Don't throw jabs at each 
    other like that. 


Thats all, folks.  Thanks.

Wang Yu (signed)
Jan. 20, 1994

From DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov  Thu Jan 20 13:58:23 1994
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Liqun,

Please let us know your decision about the way of the Council conference
so that the current confusing situation could be clarified. 

If it will be teleconference, what should we do to prepare for it.

If you want re-start the email conference, please let us know whether 
we still need to sign on or the previous presence in the network
was already automatically counted. I would suggest Chen Dong to 
post the agenda and rules and deadlines (with needed modifications)
again so that those who missed some messages can get a clear idea.

It is unfortunate that the proposed email conference wasn't able to
open as planned. I would say it is mainly because of miscommunications
and partly from the network accident. However, let's still keep calm
and keep a good atmosphere in the Council for positive discussions.
Although some people outside the Council has used the word "boycutt"
to criticize some Council members, I believe that's not the situation.

I hope, after the Council Chair decide which way to go, all of my
Colleagues in the Council will act promptly to take part in the
conference. 


Yungui

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From:	IN%"ZHANG@utkvx.utk.edu" 20-JAN-1994 13:49:06.42
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Dear Mr. Ding:

Would you please FWD this msg to council-net (if you see it fit) ?

Thanks.

-----------

>As a council member, I expressed my unsatisfaction of some of their
>actions. However, as I pointed out yesterday, I did not find any direct
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>rule violentions of HQ's behavior. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This kind of puzzled me, Mr. Dong. In my view, HQ did so "violently",
"directly" and *brazenly* in the two of the most important episodes (again, 
in my view) in the whole IT event: 

	a. HQ refused to receive (openly announced) the IT which, as a 
	   representive of council, can only be abolished by council
	   or SVC as I know; 

	b. HQ refused to open some of its financial records (also 
	   openly stated, --- in a number of occasions, e.g., the 
	   treasurer's "Q & A", --- don't tell me that it is her 
	   *personal* article), knowing that it has to "provide 
	   all the financial documents upon receiving the written 
	   request of IT" (quote the HQ quoted rule).


I have no problem that HQ's disagreement to the formation of the Council-IT,
and its appeal to SVC as well. What I have a *serious* problem with is HQ's 
ability to take the above actions prior to the conclusion of SVC or Council.

>Sure, we know Bai Yan helped, as I know other people helped also.
               ^^^^^^^
>Did we have the procedure or not ?
                 ^^^^^^^^^

This puzzled me even worse, because:

	a. It looks to me the only mistake of Bai Yan is that he naively 
	   trusted you guys', --- your calls for "participation", not just 
	   the general ones you have been making ever since you came on 
	   board, but the particular one this time for joining the IT.

	b. The IT inclusion of him was never a problem until its inspection
	   went beyond the *allowance*, --- as far as I see it on your net.


And now, since there is this thing, everyone (including SVC as in its 
"questionaire") is looking for "procedure", questioning whether there 
is a resolution in which FC is "authorized" to hire BY. It sounded good, 
and it demonstrated once more the "democratic" nature of our IFCSS. But
wait a minute, isn't it logically true that you should look up just the 
opposite, i.e., whether FC is forbiden to hire Bai Yan (though no pay ??), 
because, unless that happened, it means that it is FC's right to do so in
conducting its IT business ????? Isn't it also natural to wonder why very
few of you questioned about the "procedure" for HQ to refuse IT, assuming
that all of you guys are intelligent and fair-minded ??


>Dong,

Jing Zhang
Univ of TN

P.S. ---

One more point about the HQ's CPA bidding. I think it is illegal unless
Council has such a resolution. The most obvious reason for this is that 
the money needed for it was not included in HQ's Council approved buget,
in which the spending for accounting has been specified. I also think 
that it is a mis-conception to confuse between the Council inspection and 
the CPA (in case Council does enforce one), because the latter can at most
provide an accurate recording of the in-out-come, whereas, the Council has
the responsibility of supervising whether the in-out-come abides by the 
bugget. 

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Dear colleagues,

Glad to see Liqun's announcement to restart the email conference.
Hope this message can serve as my formal sign on mail.
Sorry, Chen Dong, I could not find the little form you once sent.

Hope this time we won't miss anyone in the net.


Yungui

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 14:51:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <dlq@u.washington.edu>
To: IFCSS Council <council-wn@ifcss.org>
Cc: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>, IFCSS SVC <svc93@ifcss.org>
Subject: Announcement on the restarting the e-mail meeting

To: IFCSS Council
CC: IFCSS HQ, IFCSS SVC
From: Liqun Dong
      Chairperson of IFCSS Council
RE: To restart the e-mail emergency meeting
Date: January 20, 1994

All Council Colleagues:

      Because of the lack of quorum, I closed the proposed meeting at 
8:30 (PST) of Jan 16, Sunday. After that time, there are several councils 
signed on the meeting and the meeting quorum has been rearched. 
Considering the technical problem in our council net and some probable 
misunderstandings among councils, I have discussed with many council 
members and compared all possibilities mentioned/debated in the net and in 
intensive talks this two days. Right now, I formally announce to re-open 
the e-mail meeting with the deadline of Jan 24, Monday, 
20:59(EST)/17:59(PST).

      The followings are some further issues relevant:
1. The presence: all councils who have signed on the meeting before can 
be accounted as their presence; and please sign on formally before Jan 
21, Friday, 18:00(EST)/15:00(PST)if you have not signed on. Otherwise, 
you will be regarded as absence with no regular reason.

2. Net:  I accept Mr. Chen Dong's suggestion and the meeting will be 
conducted in the council's working net:
           council-wn@ifcss.org.

3. All the debates and votes on the posted resolutions should be put 
into meeting record if there is no further amendment, even though in the 
inactive period of the meeting. The deadline of vote is Jan 24, Monday, 
at 20:59(EST)/17:59(PST).

4. Any amendment on the posted resolutions and any emergency motion should 
be sent to the net no later than Jan 22, Saturday, at 20:59(EST)/17:59(PST).
Otherwise, it can not be accepted by the meeting simply because of the 
difficulties on voting and further discussion on the e-mail system.

5. The resolutions (motions) need to be voted until now in the meeting 
are (as Chen Dong's numbering):
        CPA proposal by HQ
        [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
        [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
        [CP5028] open the "finance-net".



Liqun Dong (signed)
Chairperson of IFCSS Council

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I sent above announcement about two hours ago. I need to make sure all of 
you receive this announcement. Actually, I have net received it in both 
of my accounts used for IFCSS affairs, dlq@u.washington.edu in council-l 
list and liqun@hardy.u.wshington.edu in council-wn. Yungui and Chen Dong, 
could you please check the council net again?

Liqun


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Liqun, I got your post from council-l just minutes ago.
BTW, your account in council-wn has been changed to dlq@u.washington.edu,
if you want me to change it back, let me know.

Also, if anybody does not have a copy of the meeting package (CPA recommendation,
proposal, resolutions) , let me know, I will forward one to you.
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Liqun:

I see your notice.

Sign On

Zhou Hongguang
Council Member from the Southeast



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My vote:

1. HQ's suggested CPA               No.
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    No.
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        No.
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        No.


Dear Chair,

To summarize, my vote is NO. Thanks

Hongguang



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Mr. Wang Yu:

Would you please give us your phone # at which we can reach you? 
Thanks and reagards,

*---------------------------------------------------------------*
| Hongguang Zhou            Voice:                (404)727-0641 |
| Emory University          Fax:                  (404)727-0372 |
| Atlanta, GA 30322         Internet:labhgz@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu|
*---------------------------------------------------------------*



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I've got the reopen announcement.

Songlin Ren


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From: Wang Jing (signed)
      NE region

To:   IFCSS Council 1st E-mail Meeting

Re:   Vote

Date: January 23, 1994

______________________________________________________________________________

1.  Abstein       CPA proposal by HQ
	
2.  No		  [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee

3.  Yea           [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw

4.  No            [CP5028] open the "finance-net" 

______________________________________________________________________________

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  IFCSS HQ WEEKLY JOURNAL (January 17 to 23, 1994)
  ================================================

The IFCSS HQ Weekly Journal is published weekly to provide
information on the IFCSS Headquarters daily activities. It aims
to increase the openness and transparency of the IFCSS, and to
encourage criticisms, suggestions and active participation from
our members.

               January 17, Monday
The HQ issued News Release 5100 to report on its accounting
system.

The HQ staff continued to arrange for the upcoming Working
Meeting in Washington DC.

The HQ staff talked to Council members about the Working Meeting
and urged some members to play by the rules and settle
differences with the HQ through IFCSS democratic procedures.

               January 18, Tuesday
The HQ started to work to implement the plans to professionalize
the IFCSS accounting system as laid out in News Release 5100.

The HQ received guest from a local university, and HQ staff
introduced the IFCSS and its many programs.

               January 19, Wednesday
The HQ staff worked with the IGS on a campaign to promote the
IFCSS 1994 Medical Insurance Program.

The HQ staff introduced the history and activities IFCSS during
an interviewed by a free-lance writer.

The HQ was contacted by the National Endowment for Democracy for
IFCSS project funding.

               January 20, Thursday
The HQ issued News Release 5101 to compare the IFCSS Insurance
Plan with the CAL plan.

The HQ staff talked to Elaine Budd of Davis, Graham & Stubbs.

               January 21, Friday
The HQ staff was contacted by Senator Baucus' office.

The HQ received visitor from a local university.

The HQ staff continued to work on the IFCSS Job Placement
Program.

****************************************************************

President             Lin Changsheng
Vice President        Shi Heping (On Leave)
Executive Director    Liu Xiaozhu
Chief of Staff        Huang Songyun

****************************************************************

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Subject: Call for the 3rd Regular Meeting of the 5th Term Council 
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     Call for the 3rd Regular Meeting of the 5th Term Council

To    : IFCSS Council, IFCSS HQ, and IFCSS SVC
>From  : Dong Liqun, Council Chairperson
Date  : January 26, 1994
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Colleagues,

As been required by the IFCSS Council Bylaw, the 3rd regular Meeting of 
the 5th IFCSS COuncil is called:

   Date:     Saturday, Febuary 5, 1994
  Start:     1:30pm (EST)
  Location:  Washington DC area.

The conference main agenda (may be changed) includes: IFCSS HQ working and 
finance report (half-year); the panel dicsussions on the relevant IFCSS 
issues, including finance system, grass-root and exchange, structure and 
possible amendments on Constitute and Bylaws; all motion posed by Council 
members and proposals submitted by IFCSS HQ.

It is strongly recommended that all motions to be raised in the meeting be 
posted on council e-mail network at least three days before the meeting 
time. Emergency motions can be raised at any time by following the order 
of the conference.

All Council members are required to attend. IFCSS President and other HQ 
staff, IFCSS SVC members, and other relevant guests will be invited. The 
meeting will be open to the public. Any one intereted in IFCSS affairs is 
welcome. 


If you have any concerns and/or suggestions, please let me know as soon as
possible.



Dong Liqun (signed)
Chairperson of IFCSS Council

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


                The Order of the 2nd Teleconference
 
Note: This order is based on Council Bylaw, previous Council practices,
      and Robert's Rules of Order. Please comment before it is adopted.

1.   The order of the Council 3rd regular meeting is recommended by the
Chairperson of IFCSS Council and shall be adopted by general consent or by
a majority vote of the Council members present in the teleconference.

2.   All motions should be promoted and forwarded to all council members 
in writing by the sponser(s) before the meeting time. The motions raised 
after that time will be treated as emergency motions.
   
3.   All main motions are debatable. Other motions shall be dealt with
according to Robert's Rules of Order. The debating time shall be limited
and controlled. For each motion, the sponser(s) shall have at most 3
minites to explain it before debate and every member shall have one (1)
minite to speak. If necessary, a second round of debate (1 minite for each
member) can be requested and seconded by Council members and approved by the
Chair. No more than two round debates shall be given to any motion.

     Council members can defer their speaking right once in each round.
Mamber's speaking shall not be accumulated or carried over to the next
round, but it can be given to, or borrowed from, another member during the
same round of the debate.

4.   The speaking order of members shall follow the order of the Council
Directory which shall be prepared by the Secretary of IFCSS Council.

5.   A motion shall be accepted as emergency motion by a majority vote of
Council members present in the meeting.

     Emergency motions shall be processed upon its acceptance.

6.   The conference business order shall be:

     On passage of the meetng order;
     On passage of IFCSS HQ work and finance report;
     On passage of working reports of all Council Committees;
     On passage of panel discussions:
           Finance system and its improvement,
           Grass-root and Exchange,
           IFCSS structure and corresponding amendments on the Constitute 
               and Bylaws; 
     On passage of motions may be raised by Council members.

7.   The conference shall be presided by Council Chairperson.  The
co-chair shall take over responsibility when the Chairperson participates
in the debate.

8.   Any disputes or confusions shall be solved by following Council
Bylaw, (if not defined, then) Robert's Rules of Order.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

              Temproray Agenda (Draft)

              Saturday, Febuary 5, 1994
                  Washington DC



1:30pm       On the passage of the meeting order, open speech

1:40-2:00    IFCSS working and Finance Reports

2:00-2:30    Working reports of all Council Commmittees
                     (all above presided by Ding Yungui)

2:30-3:30    Panel Discuss I: IFCSS Finance system and Improvement

                     Presided by Shen Tong

3:30-3:40    Break

3:40-4:30    Panel Discuss II: Grass-root and Exchange
   
                     Presided by Wang Jing

4:30-5:30    Panel Discuss II: IFCSS struture and the amendments on the
                     Constitute and the Bylaws

                     Presided by Chen Dong

5:30-7:00    Dinner Break

7:00- ???    Debate and vote on all motions on the floor 

                     Presided by Dong Liqun




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                    M E M O R A N D U M

Date:     January 25, 1994

From:     The IFCSS HQ

To:       Members of the IFCSS Working Meeting 

Subject:  The Working Meeting Schedule (Feb 5-6)


As you have been memorialized (HQ Memo dated January 5, 1994), an
IFCSS Working Meeting will be held in Washington DC during
February 5-6, 1994. The Meeting is co-sponsored by the IFCSS
Council, SVC and HQ. Apart from the members of the above three
branches, participants of the Meeting also include IFCSS Working
Committee chairs and project coordinators. Please read the
following information carefully, and if you have questions or any
suggestions do not hesitate to contact us. 

I.   PLACE

     Quality Hotel*
     1200 North Courthouse Road
     Arlington, VA 22201
     Tel: (703)524-4000

* We will send you the directory of how to get there in a
separate package through regular mail.

II.  TENTATIVE SCHEDULE

               FEBRUARY 4 (FRIDAY)

CHECKING-IN AT THE HOTEL LATE AFTERNOON THROUGH EVENING


               FEBRUARY 5 (SATURDAY)

BREAKFAST(7:30-8:30)

MORNING SESSION(8:30-12:00):  HQ's Work

8:30-9:30      HQ General Briefing 

9:30-10:20     Discussion

BREAK 10:20-10:30

10:30-11:00    Jeff W.S. Lin, CPA, Report on IFCSS Accounting 

11:00-noon     Discussion

LUNCH BREAK(12-1)   

AFTERNOON SESSION(1-6):  Extended Council and SVC Meeting

(To be announced separately by Council and SVC Chairs.)

DINNER BREAK(7-8)

EVENING SESSION(8-11):   Reserved Time for Expedient Agenda


               FEBRUARY 6 (SUNDAY)

BREAKFAST(7:30-8:30)

MORNING SESSION (8:30-12:30): Working Committees and Projects

8:30-10:30     Reports by Working Committee Chairs and Project
               Coordinators Followed by Discussions (15 minutes
               for each session)

               1.   Deng Yanpei (Professional)
               2.   Ding Jian (Computer)
               3.   Huang Kai (Arts and Sports)
               4.   Liu Chengyan (Late Comers)
               5.   Liu Zhendong (Legal Consultation)
               6.   Liu Qing (Human Rights)
               7.   Liu Xiaozhu (Government)
               8.   Wu Tao (Theory)

BREAK (10:30-10:40)

10:30-12:00    9.   Zhang Qingsong (Newsletter)
               10.  Zhang Yalai (Humanitarian)
               11.  Zhong Ling (Anti-discrimination)
               12.  Li Jinghong (Educational Fund)
               13.  Yu Xiaoming (Teaching Mission)
               14.  Yuan Wei (Science Exchange)

12:00-12:30    Discussion: The Future of the IFCSS

12:30          The Conclusion of the Working Meeting


III. The IFCSS Working Meeting is open and welcomes veterans and
friends of the organization to attend. 

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Subject: IFCSS Report on Hu Liqun's Case
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**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters News Release No. 5102   January 27, 1994 
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

               IFCSS Report on Hu Liqun's Case
               ===============================

Since IFCSS HQ published the story of Hu Liqun, a student
fighting against the discriminatory Converting Chart at the Ball
State University (BSU), she has received many supports from the
CSS community. Despite the IFCSS intervention and open letter
campaign, the University has not changed its Converting Chart
that discriminates against the Chinese students. Now the IFCSS
Anti-discrimination Watch (chaired by Zhong Ling) has taken over
the case, and with the help of Mr. Cai Rongwei, a long time legal
counsellor of the IFCSS, Ms Hu Liqun has formally filed the
appeal against the Converting Chart at the U.S. Education
Ministry. Here is an update of the case.

At the end of March, 1993, Ms. Hu got to know that her
undergraduate GPA from Fudan University, 90.3 on 100 scale, was
converted by the school's International Program to 2.8 on 4.0
scale. Ms. Hu went to Mr. Kirk Robey, who was in charge of grade
conversion, and inquired about the conversion method. After
seeing the Converting Chart, Hu told Robey that there were
serious problems with this chart which make it inaccurate and
unfair. Robey said that he HIMSELF created this chart based on
statistical data, specifically, percentile. Upon Hu's request to
see his data base, Robey replied, "Your question goes too far. I
will not be going to change this chart today, tomorrow, or in
your life time."

Then Hu contacted university officials at every level, including
the president, calling for an re-examination of the validity of
the chart. Officials insisted that the chart has its base but
provided nothing to support the claim. 

Next, the BSU authority rejected the petition of the Chinese
Students Association (CSA) for re-examining the validity of the
chart. As the campus newspaper published the event, many faculty
and students openly expressed their support for Hu and her fellow
Chinese students. 

Pressured by the public opinion, the School finally admitted that
there is no database for its Conversion Chart, but still insisted
on its validity. That is, an "A" grade in China is still worth a
"C" grade at BSU. 

In August, Hu and his fellow students brought the case to the
attention of the IFCSS. The IFCSS HQ reviewed the case and
decided to throw its support for Hu and BSU Chinese Students
Association.

On August 26 and September 20, 1993, the IFCSS published Hu's
story on its E-Mail network, and conducted an open letter
campaign to back up Hu and CSA at Ball State. More than five
hundred signatures were collected and sent in, and local
newspapers carried the story and publish editorials to support
the Chinese student. But nothing came out of it. 

While sending an official letter to the Education Ministry, the
IFCSS began to look for solution through legal procedures. The HQ
arranged to have Mr. Cai Rongwei, a lawyer, to assist Hu to
initiate the legal procedure for appealing the discriminatory
chart. 

In October 1993, the Education Ministry formally notified Hu that
her case has been accepted and an investigation is to be started.
Now Mr. Cai Rongwei and IFCSS Anti-Discrimination Watch are
assisting Hu to prepare documents and evidence for the case,
which is still pending in the Education Ministry.  

Hu's case has drawn wide attention in the CSS community. It
indicates that more and more people in our community are
determined to stand for their rights and against any form of
discrimination. The IFCSS is your organization to serve your
interest and fight for your rights. 

If you feel you are discriminated against or your rights have
been violated, please let us know. Indeed, together and united,
we can make a difference.

To report cases, please contact:

     Ms. Ling ZHONG 
     Chair of IFCSS Anti-Discrimination Watch
     5200 Anthony Wayne Drive, #406
     Detroit, MI 48202
     Tel: (313)832-4306

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Subject:  A Proposal From IFCSS New Comers Working Committee
Status: RO

>From cliu@wuecon.wustl.edu  Fri Jan 28 16:03:18 1994
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 15:02:55 CST
From: cliu@wuecon.wustl.edu (Chengyan Liu)
To: council-l@ifcss.org
Subject: A Proposal From IFCSS New Comers Working Committee
Cc: dong
Status: R

Proposal to set up <Academic Fund for CSS New Comers (CSS NCs)>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CSS community New Comers (CSS NCs) refer to Chinese student or scholar who
came to the United States after April 11th, 1990 and currently hold valid
F-1, J-1 or H-1 visas.

It is well noticed that many CSS NCs have less opportunities to access 
various supporting funds to participate academic conferences and present 
papers. As these academic activities are crucial for the career of CSS 
NCs, the IFCSS New Comers Working Committee take this opportunity to 
propose for setting up the Academic Fund to benefit CSS NCs.
 
At the current time, the proposed Academic Fund will assist CSS NCs in 
the form of partial reimbursement for participating academic conferences 
and presenting papers in academic and scientific conferences. Every CSS 
NCs is eligible for application of this fund. 

IFCSS New Comers Working Committee will form a sub-committee, which 
consists five members, to administrate the Academic Fund at monthly 
basis. Its duties include accepting application, verifying the conference
information and authorizing the reimbursement.

The application should reach Academic Fund administration no late than two
weeks before the conference. The application should include applicant's 
resume, one reference letters and acceptance notification from the confer-
ence organizer. The Academic Fund administration will notify the applicant
for whether his/her application has been accepted and advise applicant 
which expense may be covered by the partial reimbursement. The Academic
Fund administration will authorize the reimbursement to the applicant after 
it received the necessary receipts.

The initial fund amount of $1,500 should come from IFCSS. Continuing 
support from IFCSS with no less than the initial amount of funding in a
yearly basis will be essential for the Academic Fund. The Academic Fund
administration will further seek other channels for funding and other 
programs may proposed later to promote academic excellence and career
information exchange between CSS NCs. 


IFCSS New Comers Working Committee  







          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  / "Why a communist can not be
 __________________________________________/ / a good C++ programer ?" -D.C.
/___________________________________________/ "They want destory all classes."


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 12:28:04 -0600
From: Yuhe Liu <yuhe@cumulus.gcn.uoknor.edu>
To: ifcssvc@ifcss.org
Cc: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu, ifcss@wam.umd.edu, ncomers@ifcss.org
Subject: Re: Academic Fund


It's good to see the discussions on the new comers committee's Academic
Fund proposal. As a member of the IFCSS New Comers Committee, I took
part in the discussion, writing and voting on the proposal. I'd like to
explain the main points the committee stands on based on my PERSONAL
understanding.

1. There are many CSS in the US schools who support their studies by
themselves. For attending academic conferences and presenting papers,
even those who have TA/RA may have difficulties to get enough fund from
their advisors or departments. I was once in a conference in Hawaii in
1992. My advisor promised my attendance on the condition that he could
get funding from AGU (American Geophysical Union). Many students could
not get chances to attend the academic conferences because of lack of
funds. Many has to pay all or most expenses to attend the conferences.

2. The IFCSS as the CSS community organization has the responsibility
to support the CSS's academic activities and hance help their future
career. Funding CSS to attend the academic conferences and present
papers will absorlutely benefit the CSS. Therefore, setting up an
Academic Fund is necessary.

3. Since the IFCSS herself has financial limitation, we can only
consider very limited financial support from the IFCSS. $1,500 should
not be too much for the IFCSS.

4. Although many CSS including both earlier comers (EC) and new comers
(NC) need help and support for their academic activities, the new comers
have much more difficulties to get the funds. There are many foundations
in the US which provide funds to support the academic activities. But
many of them require applicants' US citizenship and/or PR for which the
NCs are not eligible. Besides, the ECs are much more experienced to seek
funds for their academic activities.

5. The committee is entitled as the New Comers Committee to represent
the NC's interests in the IFCSS. Although a general Academic Fund will
be definitely supported by the committee if the IFCSS has the ability,
considering the current IFCSS financial situation, the committee has to
stand only for the NCs for the time being.

6. The fund will not fully support 3-5 applicants. The purpose of
the fund is to encourage more NCs to attend academic conferences and
present papers. Therefore, it was proposed that the Academic Fund
administration will only consider the partial reimbursement case by
case.

Thanks, veterans, for paying attention to the proposal. We will
appreciate your support.

Chen Dong, I will appreciate if you forward my message to the Council
net. Thanks.

Yuhe



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>From yuhe@cumulus.gcn.uoknor.edu  Sat Jan 29 13:28:14 1994
Subject: Re: Academic Fund

It's good to see the discussions on the new comers committee's Academic
Fund proposal. As a member of the IFCSS New Comers Committee, I took
part in the discussion, writing and voting on the proposal. I'd like to
explain the main points the committee stands on based on my PERSONAL
understanding.

1. There are many CSS in the US schools who support their studies by
themselves. For attending academic conferences and presenting papers,
even those who have TA/RA may have difficulties to get enough fund from
their advisors or departments. I was once in a conference in Hawaii in
1992. My advisor promised my attendance on the condition that he could
get funding from AGU (American Geophysical Union). Many students could
not get chances to attend the academic conferences because of lack of
funds. Many has to pay all or most expenses to attend the conferences.

2. The IFCSS as the CSS community organization has the responsibility
to support the CSS's academic activities and hance help their future
career. Funding CSS to attend the academic conferences and present
papers will absorlutely benefit the CSS. Therefore, setting up an
Academic Fund is necessary.

3. Since the IFCSS herself has financial limitation, we can only
consider very limited financial support from the IFCSS. $1,500 should
not be too much for the IFCSS.

4. Although many CSS including both earlier comers (EC) and new comers
(NC) need help and support for their academic activities, the new comers
have much more difficulties to get the funds. There are many foundations
in the US which provide funds to support the academic activities. But
many of them require applicants' US citizenship and/or PR for which the
NCs are not eligible. Besides, the ECs are much more experienced to seek
funds for their academic activities.

5. The committee is entitled as the New Comers Committee to represent
the NC's interests in the IFCSS. Although a general Academic Fund will
be definitely supported by the committee if the IFCSS has the ability,
considering the current IFCSS financial situation, the committee has to
stand only for the NCs for the time being.

6. The fund will not fully support 3-5 applicants. The purpose of
the fund is to encourage more NCs to attend academic conferences and
present papers. Therefore, it was proposed that the Academic Fund
administration will only consider the partial reimbursement case by
case.

Thanks, veterans, for paying attention to the proposal. We will
appreciate your support.

Chen Dong, I will appreciate if you forward my message to the Council
net. Thanks.

Yuhe

          __                                         Mail address:
   ______/ /301-405-5025(O)____301-314-9437(fax)     Dong Chen
  / ____/ /_  ___  ___    / __ \____  ___  ____(C)   LPR, Univ. of Maryland
 / /   / __ \/ _ \/ _ \  / / / / __ \/ _ \/ __ \     College Park, MD 20742
/ /___/ / / /  __/ // / / /_/ / /_/ / // / /_/ / Email: dong@umiacs.umd.edu
\____/_/ /_/\___/_//_/ /_____/\____/_//_/\__  / "Why a communist can not be
 __________________________________________/ / a good C++ programer ?" -D.C.
/___________________________________________/ "They want destory all classes."


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Reply-To: Hongguang Zhou <labhgz@unix.cc.emory.edu>
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			Memo

From:	Zhou Hongguang(signed), Council Member from the Southeast
To:	IFCSS Council Members
Cc:	IFCSS HQ, SVC, IFCSS working committees
Date:	1/30/94
RE:	Pickup for the Council Members

My dear colleages:

Agreed by the Council Chair Dong Liqun and Co-chiar Ding Yungui and 
also after consulting with some Council Members, I have reserved a mini-van 
as a tranportation vehicle for Council Members during the coming meeting 
in Washington, DC, starting on Friday morning of 2/4/94. This will 
provide conveniences for our members but also relieve the burden of the HQ.

Please inform Hongguang of your arrival time, airlines and flight 
number before 2/3/94, Thursday, so he can pick you up at the Washington 
National Airport.

*---------------------------------------------------------------*
| Hongguang Zhou            Voice:               (404)727-0641  |
| Emory University          Fax:                  (404)727-0372 |
| Atlanta, GA 30322         Internet:                           |
*---------------------------------------------------------------*




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From: dong@fuzzy.umd.edu (priv=-10 D.C.)
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To: <council-l@ifcss.org>
Subject: Re:  Memo: Pickup for Council Members
Status: RO

Do we need a minivan for it ?
A few local students and ifcss v. have cars and can help out.
Even we need a car, I doubt all people will come at the same car
and we need a van.
Maybe we council have too much fund :-(

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/___________________________________________/ "They want destory all classes."


From songlin@buphy.bu.edu  Mon Jan 31 10:17:34 1994
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From: Songlin Ren <songlin@buphy.bu.edu>
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Subject: Re:  Memo: Pickup for Council Members
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Hi, Hongguang, I will arrive DC National Airport 8:43, 2/4/94, Northwest
FLT 178.

Thanks

Songlin Ren


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Subject: IFCSS HQ Weekly Journal (January 24-30, 1994)
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  IFCSS HQ WEEKLY JOURNAL (January 24 to 30, 1994)
  ================================================

The IFCSS HQ Weekly Journal is published weekly to provide
information on the IFCSS Headquarters daily activities. It aims
to increase the openness and transparency of the IFCSS, and to
encourage criticisms, suggestions and active participation from
our members.

               January 24, Monday
Lin Changsheng returned to the HQ from his China trip, and the HQ
began its evaluation.

The HQ provided all its financial information to the CPA firm
that will compile and evaluate the IFCSS accounts.

The HQ was contacted and invited by the Howard University's
language institute for a social event.

The HQ staff worked with the IGS to solve problems of the medical
insurance program at Purdue.

               January 25, Tuesday
The HQ was contacted by the Organization of the Chinese Americans
(OCA) for cooperation.

The HQ continued to assist Jeff W.S. Lin in finishing the work as
listed in News Release 5100.

The HQ staff talked to Hu Liqun about her case to remove the
discriminatory converting chart at the Ball State University.

               January 26, Wednesday
The HQ issued the memo to the participants of the IFCSS Working
Meeting (Washington DC) set for Feburary 5-6, 1994, which
contains the timetable and agenda for the meeting.

The representative from Taiwan Student Association visited the HQ
and discussed the cooperation in sponsoring another students
summer camp to Taiwan.

               January 27, Thursday
The HQ contacted with the NED for IFCSS project reports and
future funding.

The HQ issued News Release 5102 to update Hu Liqun's case, which
involves discrimination against the Chinese students.

The HQ mailed the schedule and direction for the upcoming IFCSS
Working Meeting.

               January 28, Friday
The HQ staff talked to Cai Rongwei (the lawyer) and Zhong Ling
(Anti-Discrimination Watch chair) about Hu Liqun's case.

The HQ issued News Release 5103 to offer Rooster Evelopes to
members, a program in cooperation with OCA. 

The HQ received a letter from the American Red Cross to express
gratitude to the CSS community for its flood relief efforts.

               January 29, Saturday
The HQ staff talked to the president of the UCLA CSS regarding
the football event in the Pacific region.

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President             Lin Changsheng
Vice President        Shi Heping (On Leave)
Executive Director    Liu Xiaozhu
Chief of Staff        Huang Songyun

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