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1. We Definitely have to fight back CBS .................................. 17
2. It is no time to quit our fight ....................................... 50
3. How will we fight ?  What is our reachable goal ? ..................... 65
4. Get Positive Report about CSS here ....................................103
5. CBS wants to make money at the cost of minorities .....................120
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1. We Definitely have to fight back CBS
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Yes! We Definitely have to fight back CBS.

I just got a real-life feed back information of the CBS influence on one
of my American friends. The following was the conversation between us:

Bob:"David, I read yesterday's Newspaper about you held a Memorial service to
honor those died in 1989 Beijing massacre."

David:"Yes. June 4 th is a sad day for Chinese. It was a low turned-out, but I
understand that those didn't come to the Memorial are also against the massacre
."

Bob:"Is this low turn-out related to the Chines spies they fear of?"
David:" Are you refer to the CBS Cunnie Chung story?"    Bob:"Yes."
David:"Well, Cunnie Chung and CBS sensationalized the news, and distorted 
Chinese's image. We are very angry at this. They owe us an open apology and we are 
fighting it back. that is another story......."


Listen, my Chinese fellows, this was from an ordinary American friend who I go
to the same religious group with, and he is frank with me. Don't just assume 
that American's are blindfolded, they respond  to the news just as you and I do.

we are not shouting  nice slogans, we are not fighting a right to live here but

fighting how should we live here. How far you can be humiliated that's your own
business. But we, the majority of Chinese shall fight for a decent life in America. No trash.

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2. It is no time to quit our fight
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In response to Mi Mi's analysis, I'd like to point out that the news
media don't always know what they are doing and they are not always
mature enough. The task of journalists is to make news interesting, so
it is always the case to make something sensational at the expense of 
sacrificing the objectiveness. Please keep in mind, the response from
the VP of CBS news is the typical business-like correspondence lacking
sincerity.  It is no time to quit our fight.  Nobody care about us but
ourselves.

Jay G.

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3. How will we fight ?  What is our reachable goal ?
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Of course, We should fight back CBS. But my questions are "How will we 
fight ?" and "What is our reachable goal ?". I think it is time for us 
to think about them.

(1) How will we fight ?

    I think there are three approaches.

    (i) launch a law suit -- impractical.
        As several lawyers pointed out, this is a very tough suit. How 
        likely that we will win? We do not have concrete arguments 
        against CBS report. CBS' comment of "potential spy" issue might 
        be useful if we file a class action. But how can we get money for 
        it ? It is easy to talk about donation. But how many successful 
        donation drives CSS had before? What if we lose ? What if we cannot
        pay the fee ?

    (ii) Confront CBS (demonstration, boycott, etc.) -- destructive.
         These are means we can use but I do not think they will work well. 
         In the same time, the bad news will be widely spreader.

    (iii)Dialogue -- might constructive
         We can show CBS the news report is far away from the truth and 
         demand a redress to mend the wrong reporting. For example, show 
         the CSS's contribution to the U. S. in a positive way. Again,
         CBS might piss us away with its bureaucratic bullshit. At this stage, 
         all are only 'might'. But dialogue is the most possible way to get
         our job done.
                 
(2) What is a reachable goal for us?

    It is almost impossible to make CBS apologize publicly. We are not as 
    strong as GM. I think it is reachable to make CBS post positive program.

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        I do not think CBS can apologize to us on public. It cost too much for
them, even more than they pay us several million dollars. Even a apologize to 
us, it is not the best thing for us, it will make the report even well know 
by public. We do not want the bad report get spread too much. However, a 
positive report about CSS in here is a very good idea. It can reduce some bad
affect by that report and would not cause CBS nothing, maybe even increase it
rating. Because now the China MFN still a hot issue. This Sunday, NBC meeting 
the press show about it and Clinton will fight with congress for it. 
        We should use the law suit and misinterpret the book to push CBS to
do something for us. Yes, you said is right, give them some room. We can
achieve our goal. The bottom line is let CBS know this CSS is not like she
can be kill whenever them want.
 
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5. CBS wants to make money at the cost of minorities
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This is totally wrong! Do you think someone wants to "distinguish between
facts and fictions" because it is a "giant" and has been foraging in the
media realm for years? I hope you take some courses in economics and
psychology: the major objective of individual human being is to maximize
his/her own profit, which is the most basic foundation of modern
economics. CBS does not want to satisfy all the audience. It wants 
to make money by any means, particularly at the cost of minorities since
minorities' human rights do not have much influence on its
money-making process. Take a look at the human rights of the Native
Americans: how much has CBS cared them?

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(Daily News, one of the largest English paper in NYC, interviewed Mi Mi Sr.,
the coordinator of CBS Incident Committee on June 14 and  has covered CBS 
incident.)

The following is typed in By Mi Mi Sr. (Lin Huang)

Daily News, June 15, 1994 Page 3
Chung-lash For report about spies
By Ying Chan
Daily News Staff Writer

Some Chinese-Americans who were once loyal fans of Connie Chung are charging 
her with betrayal.
The flap began last month, when the CBS anchorwoman, in an evening news 
segment, reported on an alleged extensive network of Chinese spies in the 
United States.
"Everyday, planeloads of Chinese citizens arrive legally in the U.S., ordinary 
people," she said. "But  to the Chinese government, some of them maybe future 
spies..."
The report included an interview with Nicolas Eftimiades, the author of a book 
about the trend, who told Chung that Chinese spies are like "fish on the 
bottom of the ocean," who waited years to surface.
Since the May 19 broadcast, more than 600 Chinese students at universities 
around the country have signed protest letters to the network.
And at a press conference Saturday, a dozen Chinatown groups called for an 
apology.
Yesterday, Chung - sounding mellow but non apologetic - called the furor a 
misunderstanding.
"We were doing the story based on information from U.S. intelligent experts," 
said the anchorwoman.
"The dispute should be with the intelligent experts," she said of the reports 
by U.S. Counter-intelligence specialists.
But critics charged that Chung has simplified the issue in her broadcast and 
misled viewers.
"CBS suggested that every Chinese in this country could be spies for China," 
said Lin Huang of the Bronx, a City College graduate student spearheading the 
protest. "This is like crying the yellow peril again."

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                       Thursday, June 16, 1994    

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This weekend, if my ear serves me, please buy New York Times. If you can not 
find anything, maybe just buy for a few days. Our effort will not be wasted.

This weekend, sunday. To be safe, also saturday and monday, okay?

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1) Fight back or not?
We are defamed by CBS report. Someone suggest that it has been too much 
already. Please keep quiet, lay low. Do not make noises. Pretend there has 
been nothing happened, and people will forget it after all. I call it Ostrich 
Philosophy. CBS is not the first nor the last. New York Times reporter told 
me, on April 11, Wall Street Journal covered the same thing (by the way, who 
can forward that to me?). Some other media had done the same before. If every 
time those garbage are dumped without protest, surely everyone will think this 
is a safe zone and we Chinese are the dumping site. In fact, by laying low we 
are inviting more and more garbage of this kind, in the future.

2) How to fight?
Well, good question. I have only one method, with my teeth, fists, feet, 
bricks, clubs, everything which is available to me as I am mad. No time to 
think about anything else. If only I am fighting, then maybe I make a mistake 
and fell. But there are so many fellow Chinese, some one may get through and 
win the battle. It does not matter if  I die. Someone is going to win, and 
that is enough. Of course to fight wisely is the best, and we are trying to do 
this way. Otherwise, why committee?

3) Make news or not?
Why not? Think that will make things worse? Quite rationale, eh? Well, how bad 
it will go? Call us not only potential but also real ones, right? The 
evidence! No one dares to go this far! So, what else? Tell you this, the other 
media is not a fool. When two parties are fighting, I bet they will support 
the weaker, not the stronger ones. The only way to support the stronger one is 
to dump some more trash on us, that act makes themselves look not so heroic. I 
bet they will side with us, to help the weaker ones, at least, to be more 
"objective". So, that is way to make ourselves heard. We do not have to buy an 
ad., media will offer us free of charge. If we believe what the CBS charges IS 
correct, then we may fear the more exposure. Fortunately we do not.

4) Law suit or not?
Well, I do not want to rule out this option, unless it is absolutely 
unnecessary. Law suit serves two purposes. The number one is to make a public 
statement, to get the public attention. No matter if we sue CBS to the end or 
not, we get the public attention already. The number two is to get 
compensation, if we win. Law suit here is the tool, not the goal. 

5) Survey or not?
Why not? My only concern is the manpower shortage of our committee. Our active 
members are all overloaded, and I do not dare to push them any more. So, if 
more volunteers can join, certainly it is a good idea to survey.

6) Survey whom?
Well, Chinese, Americans, your professors, classmates, office mates, bosses, 
neighbors or fellow churchgoers. Anyone. Show them the transcripts. Show them 
the survey questions and ask them the favor to finish it. We are not 
professionals, and we just can try our best. "War teaches people, people will 
win the war". A public opinion change resulted from the CBS report is our 
weapon to fight CBS. If there is no change, than just make noises to stun the 
media and then go back home to relax. Say good-bye to fcbs-l, Mi Mi Sr. and 
all our committee members. I would very much like this to happen. 

7) How about the side-effect?
What? anything we can do is worse than CBS report? CBS report is transmitted 
into millions of Americans homes without questioning. How many samples we are 
going to cover? Twenty thousands? Come on! How can we do that? Even if we can, 
20,000/1,000,000 = 0, mathematically. So, the bad publicity is negligible, if 
any, compared to the CBS report, right?

8) What about people not telling their true thought?
You have to assume the majority is trustworthy, will tell their true feelings. 
Only a handful will not, that will not show up statistically.  It depends on 
how the survey is designed. So, those who have concerns of the survey, please 
join us to make a best survey we CSS have ever had in this country.

9) I have seen a surge of postings on fcbs-l since I posted the Daily News 
report. We got excited, eh? Well, this weekend, if my ear serves me, please 
buy New York Times. If you can not find anything, maybe just buy for a few 
days. Our effort will not be wasted. Our voices will be heard, if we keep 
making more noises! Of course I am not paid by New York Times for this 
advertisement, believe me!

Cheers!

Mi Mi Sr.

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   I have read two articles from CCF that two authors claimed that some
friends of theirs were asked by National Security Bureau or Public
Security Bureau for "working for China" --- see No 9426 and No 9433.

  Although some readers expressed their doubts if these things are true,
what I want to say to the authors and others is Do Not Mix Up CBS's
Spy Issue With Monitor Issue!!!

  To me, even if someone was asked by these bureau for "working for
China", it does not support the spy report by CBS. --- It does not
necessarily mean this person was asked to steal military and economic
secrets of the US!  As Mr. Nicholas Eftimiades (Defense Information
Agency) said, prospective spies are trained, paid and send by CIS. Every
one knows well what will happen to someone who WITHOUT DIPLOMATIC
IMMUNITY was caught for stealing military and economic secrets.

  Now, what these National Security Bureau and Public Security Bureau
ask for?  one possibility is that they want some students to monitor
their fellow Chinese students in the US or other countries. Back to
the time before "6.4", Chinese government believe most of students
will be back after finish study. At that time, they might think
"Chinese Spring" #1 enemy over the world, because "Chinese Spring"
roots in students and gained some popularity then. It is not surprising
that Chinese government monitored the activities of "Chinese Spring" on
campus then. (Are they still doing some similar monitoring now?)  But
do not mix up this monitoring issue with CBS' spy issue, please!
They are two totally different issues!

  Let me MAKE UP a story. Suppose a person enters the US as a journalist
for People's Daily --- Oversea's Edition to interview a Chinese student
at some university. (You never know who these journalists and
diplomatists really are). The journalist wants to know his fellow students'
study, daily life and "other activities". Now, this student may tell
the journalist that they had a Chinese film last Friday and had a "6.4"
memorial meeting last Saturday.  Intentionally or un-intentionally, he
may also tell the journalist who attended the meeting.

  Now, could anyone figure out anything they did against the US law?
You may call the student CCP's ass-kisser or what-so-ever, or you may
accuse the student's moral, or on the contrary, you may admire the student.
But it is a totally different issue from the spy report by CBS!



DISCLAIM:  The above article only reflects my thought at current
moment. I do not intend to make any implication within the article.
Unless explicitly cited, I do not have any other solid information or
solid facts to support my article.

Yulin Cao

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a) New York Times called Mr. Chengyan Liu and expressed interests into the
   CBS incident. However, they said they wouldn't carry a report unless a
   law suit was pending. (From Chengyan Liu)

b) Mr. Luo Ning and Mr. Frank Cheng, both members of fcbs committee,
   contacted heads of three Chinese organizations in New York
   City (Sino Radio Broadcasts Corp.; NY Chinatown Senior Citizen Coalition
   Center and United Chinese Congress).
   They were briefed on the CBS incident and the activities taken by our
   community, as well as correspondences between CBS and IFCSS. The heads of
   all three organizations expressed strong support to our efforts and suggested
   that we be cautious and well-prepared in this collective actions against
   the media giant CBS. (from Luo Ning)

c) Many Chinese community groups in San Francisco Bay area who expressed
   concern and anger over the CBS report have received responses from CBS
   within the last 10 days. However, they are all similar to the response
   IFCSS have received. These groups planned to do some of the following
   things: a press conference, a protest in front of CBS's local station,
   a law suit, an ad on newspapers to protest CBS. (From Liang Er)
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From: Hao Wu 
Subject: concerning "Youming"'s letter on June 9th

 Several coments:

 1. Don't try to cover the sheepishness by talking like a senior. "You guys
 are overract"? Oh no boy. Whenver whoever I talked to (of course Chinese),
 I found nobody that is calm and crying for 'fair play'. Maybe you were once
 surmoned by CCP, we were not, never, and I heard nobody around me ever.

 2. Someone may be so clever as to dig out the original intention of CBS, which
 was to blame CCP, not ordinary Chinese. But we, and I suppose most of the
 ordinary American, intepretated the report as the suspicion of Chinese,which
 I assume rooted from the overload immigration these years. Racial hatred is not
 uncommon thing here. And I can't imagine commercial TV stations would tell you
 some accurate political analysis. Plainly, as someone already pointed out,
 CBS used this report to boost its rating . The implication here (oh damn,
 always word twisters), and the effects in the masses (who were having dinner
 and swallowing whatever they heard); we shout at the effects, the vile
 intentions under the smiling face, not at those so called gentlemen and
 ladies who were critical and objective.

 3. I am not a PR, and submit no tax. So I have no right here. Once I told
 one of my friend who experienced discrimination from the cop in a traffic
 accident, that the only way is to follow Ah-Q, discriminating them back.
 No more junk words. The thing I want to say is that we benefit (I am not
 good at maths enough to calculate the value of work in lab I do), maybe
 we have no right. But if some one tries to destroy my reputation, tries
 to spit me at the face, definitely I would spit back. I just want to spit.
 No plan to leave his(her) spit on my face showing to others, begging for
 rights or compassion. I fear not if he(she) is my boss, lover, or even my
 parent. I want to bite, because some beast dirtied my face.

 4."Don't fight with your host nation's interest". Then how about our motherland
 China? How about your family? They cared us, milked us, we are totally indebted
 to them. We should not fight? We got too much. But as the same time we give
 back something. They have their own interest, their own policy, their own
 understanding. But sorry babe, I have my own too. If my boss is inhumane, I
 will join the uion, and find happiness in fighting him. Even I will find
 some joy in the falling  of a big building, no matter the owner and boss is
 staring at me with angry eyes. If this country is claimed to be democratic,
 I at least have the right to say what I want, though that is not protected.

 5.Whenver I talked to American about this, they can't believe CBS could do such
 a thing. They did not welcome my anger, but they did not disapprove either.

 6. Last point, we are not shouting beautiful slogans. If you are dissatisfied
 with the anger we have, if you think our anger dampened your fame of timidity
 and adaptivity, go back to your lounge and have a nice sleep. What image you
 want to have is of your own business.
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From: Runquing Du

 I do not want to attack a previous poster, but I certainly can not agree to his
 opinion, esp. his point of "the report was a fact". I do respect him for his
 courage of saying "I myself was summoned to Bureau of Security before I came
 to US". But to my knowledgement, most mainlanders coming to US were not
 contacted by BS. The sad part of the story is that I can not support my claim
 with concrete figures. But who can? ONLY BS can, and nobody will believe them.

 I personally think that CBS's report did discriminate the mainland Chinese in
 US and that we have all rights to protest CBS for its bad-talking us without 
 concrete reasons. What we need is stratogy.

 1. I think protest letter to CBS won't hurt CSS. The more the better. Let CBS
    know what they did was stupid (against law or not is another issue) and they
    will pay for their doing (by tell them you will not watch CBS programs until
    CBS make a public apology or whatever).

 2. We should consult with more professionals before we take public actions, be 
    mass protest or Law suit. We do not want make CBS' report more widely known
    without confidence that we can win or at least we will not worsen our image.

 3. We have to act quickly, because we are already late. I hope IFCSS can be
    more active in this issue. We can ask for donations from CSS if necessary.
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 Recently, TV channel 38 in CA broadcasted two stories about
 discriminated chinese. Why chinese are discriminated so obviously even
 most of chinese are very gentle and careful especially in American? That
 is we did not defend our rights before. It is time now. We have to fight
 for ourselves, for our children and for our people. 

 If you do not want to take any risk, you can not have any chance.

Jackie Li 
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a. Media Compaign
From: qing lu 

 "What we want to wage next is a media campagn to attack CBS. What we need is
 publicity. I saw the report of the incident on Taiwan newspaper and heard it
 reported on world journal. What we want to do is to expose it to American
 media. Demonstratin in front of CBS is not bad. I hope it will generate at
 least some local TV coverage"

From: Muguang Wu 

 "Is it possible that we might take out an ad in a national newspaper such
 as Los Angeles Times or New York Times? In this ad, we may point out the
 discrepencies between the CBS report and Eftimiades' book account. After
 all, CBS's stuff was mainly based upon Eftimiades' book. I totally understand
 the financial difficulty of this kind of endeavor, but it seems we have support
 (at least morally) beyond the circle of CSS. It might be worth trying."

b. Helps from other organizations
From RSW@xxx

 "I proposed to contact ACLU [Editor: American Civil Legal Union], NAACP
 [Editor: National Association for the Advancement of Colored People], and
 other civil rights organizations. We cannot afford to fight the battle alone.
 The more we identify our campaign as a civil rights issue instead of a Chinese 
 issue, the more balance we can achieve.  Some worry we might be misinterpreted
 about our association with those sometimes controversial organizations. I
 disagree. While we need to keep our cool and composure, an isolationist
 attitude will do us no good.  The point is how we should utilize those
 resources to the best interest of our cause.  We at least can get their
 perspectives, if nothing else.  They are much more experienced in fighting
 social injustice. We should not be misled by fear or prejudice. Remember: we 
 ourselves ARE the victims of those social evils.  We are not talking 
 about joining these organizations here.  We simply want to utilize their tools.
 
c. Law suit
From: Jienan Chen

 "We have nothing to lose by filing a lawsuit with good preparation. I pointed
 out at the begining, a lawsuit serves several purposes: legal redress, pressure
 that may ultimately lead to an out of court settlement with CBS (minimum goal:
 a public or at least official apology -- then we can release it to the
 media), newsworthiness, and community awareness.  Publicity is not a 
 choice but a necessity.  CBS will not take us seriously, and we may not
 get a fair hearing, without generating/manipulating some publicity."  

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