From @UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-china-nt@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 02:04:24 1994 Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 01:36:08 -0400 Reply-To: YANG Chang-Qing Sender: China-Net From: YANG Chang-Qing Subject: Chinese Community Bulletin (940519) Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu To: Multiple recipients of list CHINA-NT ===+==+==+==+==+==+== Chinese Community Bulletin ==+==+==+==+==+==+=== (CCB 940519) +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Chinese Community Bulletin (CCB) is one of the supplementary issues of Chinese Community Forum (CCF). It collects contributions on various topics which are not published in CCF regular issues or other supplementary issues. The opinions expressed in CCB do not necessarily represent the editors'. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Table of Contents: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. From : An MFN Survey Result 2. From : A Letter to Presodent Clinton 3. From : Zhao Hua Case Update 4. From : Information Needed 5. From : China Health Care List Needed 6. From : Announcing ICnet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 09:50:36 -0500 (EDT) From: cisssh@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Shuguang Hong) Subject: An MFN Survey Result NEWS RELEASE THE RESULT OF THE LARGEST SURVEY ON CHINA'S MFN TRADE STATUS May 14, 1994 >From April 24, 1994, to May 11, 1994, We conducted a survey on the issue of China's Most Favored Nation (MFN) trade status among Chinese students and scholars coming from mainland China. We received responses representing more than 866 individuals through e-mail and fax. After validating the responses and eliminating replications, the number of validated responses is 818. Those responses came from more than 38 states and 8 foreign countries. Rated by the number of responses, this survey is the largest one so far on the MFN issue. The result of the survey is reported here. Brief explanations of the survey results and the design of the questionnaire are given in Appendixes A and B, respectively. This report should be regarded as facts. We disclaim and are not responsible for possible interpretations of the facts by any organizations or individuals. We have tried our best to avoid errors. However, we do not claim that the report is error free. This survey is an independent effort. We neither receive financial support from nor influenced by any organizations. We also want to thank the respondents for their participation in the survey. Signed by Dr. Shuguang Hong Amy Zhang Changqing Yang College of Business Pennsylvania State Department of Chemistry Administration University University of Massachusetts Georgia State (814)865-4553 Amherst, MA 01003-4510 University yxz100@psuvm.psu.edu (413)545-6082 Atlanta, GA 30302-4015 cqyang@chemistry.umass.edu (404)651-3887 cisssh@gsusgi2.gsu.edu ========================================================================== Survey Result Total Valid Responses: 818 (1) President Clinton should NOT link the human right issue with the MFN issue. (Check only one box) opinion # of % of responses total responses ---------------------------------------------------------------- Strongly agree 590 72.13% Agree 133 16.26% Neutral 27 3.30% Disagree 32 3.91% Strongly disagree 35 4.28% (2) Linking the human right issue with the trade issue will NOT help China improve her human right record. (Check only one box) opinion # of % of responses total responses ------------------------------------------------ Strongly agree 467 57.09% Agree 208 25.43% Neutral 61 7.45% Disagree 46 5.62% Strongly disagree 31 3.79% (3) President Clinton should unconditionally renew China's MFN trade status. (Check only one box) opinion # of % of responses total responses ------------------------------------------------- Strongly agree 578 70.66% Agree 121 14.79% Neutral 35 4.28% Disagree 54 6.60% Strongly disagree 28 3.42% (4) Economically, discontinuation of China's MFN trade status would hurt: (May check multiple boxes) opinion # of % of responses total responses ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chinese state owned enterprises 573 70.05% Chinese private owned enterprises 665 81.30% Chinese government officials 211 25.80% Ordinary Chinese people 734 89.73% American business 703 85.94% Ordinary American people 584 71.39% None of the above 6 0.73% (5) Among all those groups in question (4), which single group do you think would be hurt the most? opinion # of % of responses total responses ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chinese state owned enterprises 59 7.20% Chinese private owned enterprises 148 18.09% Chinese government officials 20 2.44% Ordinary Chinese people 474 57.95% American business 81 9.90% Ordinary American people 43 5.26% None of the above 2 0.24% ============================================================================ APPENDIX A NOTES ON THE SURVEY & THE SURVEY RESULTS (1) The survey was announced in the usernet, an international forum of the internet, China News Digest: US News (cnd-us), and Chinese Community Forums (CCF). The questionnaire was posted in the internet social.culture.china, the internet politics.talk.china and CCF, and distributed to individuals via e-mail. (2) Not every respondent checked every question. Therefore, the sum of the number of responses within a single-choice question may not be equal to the total number of valid responses received. (3) The percentage of total responses regarding an opinion is the quotient of the total number of responses to the opinion divided by the total number of valid responses received. (4) The states and countries from which responses were generated were identified by the e-mail addresses or telephone area codes of the respondents. However, the location of respondents from commercial industrials could not be determined by their e-mail addresses. Hence, the actual number of states and countries could be more than what was reported here. APPENDIX B NOTES ON THE DESIGN OF THE QUESTIONNAIRE We made a decision on conducting a short survey and limited the number of questions under 5. Ideally, the questions in the questionnaire should be phased alternately between pro- and against the renewal of the MFN trade status. However, due to the small number of questions, we were afraid that alternating the pro- and against could confuse our respondents. We decided to make a consistent approach and phased all questions in pro-renewal tune. We believe that the group of people we polled are highly educated and their opinions should not be influenced by how the questions were phased. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 21:22:30 -0600 (CST) From: ANDYSHI@Meena.CC.URegina.CA Subject: A letter to Clinton on MFN for comments Andy Shi School of Human Justice University of Regina Regina, Saskatchewan Canada S4S 0A2 President Bill Clinton The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20500 U.S.A. May 15, 1994 Dear President Clinton: I am writing you to make some, I believe, important suggestions on your China policy, with special reference to the issue of China's most-favored-nation trading status. I salute you and your administration for your moral stance on the human rights issue in China and your persistent pursuit of this cause. It is commendable that since President Jimmy Carter, American Democrats have always pursued a set of policies which takes into account the human rights of other peoples. I recognize with appreciation the pro-people, as opposed to pro-money, philosophy on which your administration formulates its domestic and foreign policies. Having lived in China for a significant part of my life, I can fully appreciate your frustration in dealing with the Chinese government. I cannot agree more with you in principle that the government of the United States, on the basis of a non-isolation policy, must make substantial efforts to help improve China's human rights record. I, however, believe that the approach you use to pursue this end should be drastically altered. It is always important, when dealing with China, to remember that as a nation, it has for centuries been invaded, exploited, and abused by Western powers. Consequently, it is not surprising that the leaders of China today still harbour strong distrust of the West and that any actions or demands made by the United States, if not carried out carefully, will be viewed as an act arising out of malevolence and be met with hostility. Therefore, it is very essential that your administration, when engaged with its Chinese counterpart, convey a clear and sincere message of good will in whatever you are pursuing. Once that message is registered, the Chinese will be more receptive to whatever comes next. The second important point I would like to draw your attention to is respect. Showing respect is the secret of success in dealing with Chinese -- or in dealing with any other nations for that matter. The Confucianism-dominated, status-conscious Chinese culture is vastly different from the directness that typifies American culture. The leaders of the "Middle Kingdom" do not want to be told what to do. Western leaders can always ask, but never tell, the Chinese how they should run their country. To the Chinese, it is very important to "save face", so to speak, then they will "give you the steps to walk down". The need to approach China in a culturally appropriate way is even more pronounced now that China has considerable military and economic power to wield, and that this power is growing day by day. Mutual benefit is another imperative. You and your colleagues have to show your counterparts in China your appreciation of their problems. For the Chinese government to make any concession, it must first see a profit. The regime will not compromise when it sees no gain but only loss. Why should it compromise when refusal to do so poses no imminent danger of collapse of power? The task for the United States, therefore, is to make sure that it does not push the Chinese leaders into a no-win situation but to point out not only what is at stake, but also the possible gains. When you do them a favor, they return the favor. In light of the above analysis, I strongly recommend that you take the initiative to call an emergency meeting between your emissary and the Chinese government to take away the MFN sword of Damocles hanging over the two governments and two peoples. I believe now is a crucial time for you to convey your good will and to earn the necessary trust from your Chinese counterpart. Once that has been established, I am confident that you will work out a feasible and satisfactory solution to the current MFN deadlock which entails serious consequences for both nations. I trust that you recognize that a renewed most-favored-nation trading status for China is in the interests of both the Chinese and the American peoples and the international community. If you and your administration want to retain sufficient influence on that vastly populated and increasingly important country, communication channels such as those ensured by a MFN status must be maintained. Economic sanction may force a fledgling regime of a weak and small country out of power. But a revoking China's preferential trading status at this time would provide a good excuse for the regime to retain its dictatorial rule. And when China is under dictatorship, the whole world is not at ease. A revocation would also push both the hardliners and the moderates within the Chinese government back to their Cold War style anti-American rhetoric. The loss of MFN status would impair the daily life of the people of China; this negative impact would almost certainly help fuel nationalistic anti-American sentiment that would hurt U.S. interests for years to come. That would be exactly what you do not want to achieve. I beseech you to consider such dire consequences at this critical historic moment. In conclusion, I recommend that you, your secretary of state Mr. Warren Christopher, and your administration approach the entire China problem from some new perspectives. I suggest an approach of friendliness and an option for dialogue over one of confrontation, which, I believe, will lead only to a dead end, hurting the interests and feelings of both nations. I hope to see a constructive and benign, rather than a destructive and vicious, cycle in the Sino-American relationship under your leadership. I trust that you have the wisdom and determination to accomplish that. I wish you success in all your future endeavours. Yours very sincerely, Andy Shi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:05:57 -0400 From: Mi Mi Subject: Working Report on Zhao Hua's Incident (0518) From: IFCSS Special Coordination Group To: IFCSS Headquarter IFCSS V Club Working Report on Zhao Hua's Incident (0518) 1. After several weeks of hardwork, Fudan Group's final version of petition letter and report were ready to go, and sent to ten places in the name of Overseas Chinese Students and Scholars Zhao Hua Memorial Committee. There have been over 700 signatures so far. The ten places are: a.Beijing Central Government: Jiang, Zeming b.Mayor of Shanghai: Huang, Ju & CCP President of Shanghai: Wu, Bangguo c.Minister of Sanitary: Chen, Mingzhang d.Fudan President: Yang, Fujia e.Editor-in-Chief of Liberation Daily: Ding, Ximan f.Editor-in-Chief of Wenhui Daily g.Editor-in-Chief of Xingming Evening Daily: Ding, Fazhang h.Editor-in-Chief of China Youth Daily i.New China News Agency Beijing Branch Dept. of Domestic News Sanitary Reporter: Zou, Peiyan j.Editor-in-Chief of the Shanghai Branch of New China News Agency: Wu, Mingfei Several more places are still being tried. 2. A combined committee, comprised of members from IFCSS Coordination Group, Fudan Group, and "sporadic" activists, was formed, as named Overseas Chinese Students and Scholars Zhao Hua Memorial Committee. Some major events will be exercised in the name of this committee to avoid some inconvenience. This committee will also be responsible for following up the responses to petition drives from all aspects. 3. Also after two weeks of very hard work and reaching out, almost fifty Chinese students and scholars organizations have signed on the appeal letter on Zhao Hua's incident, drafted by Xing Zheng on May 1st. Thanks for Zhang Feng's hard work and preparation of Chinese printing version. We are deeply moved by the messages from these presidents for supports and appreciations. This signed letter will be sent to several places. Here shown is the list of signed CSSOs (not restricted in U.S.A.)**: Zhuang Jieyao CSSU at Purdue University Xing Ming Chinese Student Club at Rice University Xiaoyang Du ACSS at University of Arizona Hangjun Ruan ACSS at University of Washington at Seattle Pengfei Tang CSSA at University of California at Berkeley Xushan Fang China Club Texas A&M University Xing Zheng CSSA at Cornell University Pan Gaofeng FACSS at the University of Minnesota Weiping Yu CIU at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Shao Qing CSSA at Virginia Tech Yuanhan Zhang CSA at the University of Missouri St. Louis Bill J. Zhou CSSA at University of Idaho Xiansheng Duan CSSA at University of Illinois Urbana-Champion Wenliang Tao CSSA at Towson State University Maryland Zeming Liu CSSA at University of Pittsburgh Zhou Dongsheng CSSA at Oregon State University Zhu Xiang FACSS at University of South Carolina Cai Wenjie CSSA at University of Utah Yang Lingyan CSSA at University of Massachusetts at Amherst Qiang Yu CSSA at Kansas State University Ling Qiu CSSA at Central Washington University Xuejun Cai CSSA at MIT Alexander Wen CSSA at University of Northeastern Wu, Zhiqiang CSSU at University of Kentucky Rongxiang Hu CSO at Auburn University Alabama Du Yi CSSA at John Hopkins University Wang Jiming FACSS at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Hu Fan CSSFA at Washington State University Yu Bin CSSA at Brandeis University Baoxi Qu CSU at Zurich, Switzerland Xu Mingde ACSS at University of California, Riverside Zheng Zhang CSOC at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Fan WeiYu CSSA at Iowa State Univeristy Ping Jiang ACSSS at Stanford Univeristy Qi Jiang CSSA at the University of Calgary, Canada Daxin Qi CSSA at the Univeristy of Hawaii Wenjiang Xiao CSSA at University of Technology AACHEN, GERMANY Fang, Qing CACE at University of Texas at Austin; Wang, Ming CSSA at University of California at Davis; Chu Haiguang FACSSUST at University of St. Thomas; Shen, Zhihua CSSA at Montana State University; Xue, Zhaoqing* CSSA at North Carolina State University; Zhou, Jining CSSA at University of Missouri at Kansas City; Huang, Wenjun CSSA at Bradley University; Tang, Tao CSSA at University of Oregon; Li, Yi CSSA at Washington University at St. Louis; Tao, Ye Minnesota Chinese Democracy Foundation; Fang, Ming* CSSA at University of Missouri at Rolla; Ma, Dianjun* CSSA at Florida State University; Zhang, Tongtong* CSSA at University of Virginia; * Final confirmation is required. ** This list is subjected to Zhang Feng's correction. 4. More communications were undertaken to Shanghai Medical University (SMU) and Zhao Hua's family. Zhao Hua's family has been fully cooperative with all of our efforts. (1). On May 10th, Director of Department of Hospital Management of SMU, Ms.Yan, was reached, to inquire the hospital's response to the Analysis Report of Zhao Hua's incident, sent there by FAX 5 days ago. Ms. Yan explained that both university and her department had got the report and studied it, and the university thought that they couldn't simply comment on it, but family could seek for solution of dispute through normal channels. The university is still open to family's petition. On the other hand, her department might not have full power to meet all demands from the family. Ms. Yan acknowledged again the efforts made by IFCSS Group. The caller appreciated her attitude that the door to solve the problem would still be open to the family. (2). On May 11th, Zhao Hua's mother was reached at home. Ms.Zhao firstly told the caller they felt the hospital's leaders were now trying to avoid meeting them. After briefing the conversation of caller with Ms.Yan, the parents decided to go the hospital and university immediately that day. (3). On May 17th, Zhao Hua's father was reached at home. Mr. Ma told the caller their meeting with SMU side that day. Basically, director Yan held the same standpoints, as shown in gorup's working report before. One thing different, however, was that Ms.Yan proposed to Si1 Liao3 (private settlement) over the dispute with the family. The parents immediately rejected the proposal by saying we insisted on seeking justice (Tao3 Ge1 Gong1 Dao1), and pinted out the key delay in that morning and others which the hospital should be responsible. Mr.Yan expressed that there were discrepancies between what family's claim and hospital's report, but she thought the family's was more convincing. She indicated that the hospital had some problems, but her department or SMU might have no power enough to take in charge of it (Guan3 Bu4 liao3), and suggested two ways: 1. Medical identification; 2. Lawsuit. Before the end, director proposed once again for "Si Liao" and wanted to hear parents's responses on this proposal as soon as possible. (4). Coordination Group thinks that the contact to higher lever of SMU side and Department of Health now is necessary after talking with the parents, and called Mr. Ma again on May 18th. Several phone numbers of SMU and Department of Health of Shanghai were obtained and distributed. A Fax machine number was also obtained in Shanghai with access to the parents, which was inquired very early by Fudan's group. The situation might be: SMU is withdrawing somehow, but sitll difficult to accept the family's terms, and the contact to low level officials are not enough. On the other hand, the situation might be complicated. When Mr.Ma approached the SMU for Vice-president phone number, a secretary of vice-president reminded him: you shouldn't try the overseas' support, which might be June-fourth Event linked! Ms. Ma responded promptly: You had no evidence to say that! 5. Two law agencies were contacted so far. One is the Institute of Law Study, Shanghai Acadamy of Social Sciences, with Mr. XXX XXX; Another is Law Firm of Golden Horse. The former is a very capable young laywer, and got our docuemtns, but has not decided; the latter expressed that if the social media became beneficial to the family and some "leaders" paid some attentions to this event, the lawsit would be accepted and may win. 6. (1) Relevant documents have been sent to a reporter of World Journal, by recommendation. Probably a serial of reports could be arranged. But the reporter flied to Taiwan last weekend, so we are waiting for his return. (2) We have got another channel to try to publish one story report inside China soon, this story report is in preparation as requested. (3). The Voice of America will be contacted soon, and we hope it could carry some report to China very soon. (4). A similar story report is also in preparation for carrier on Hua Xia Wen Zai, as contacting with some of editors. Editor XXX XXX did remind this committee to take advantage of this world-wide based channel. On the other hand, I would suggest some editor in IFCSS VC net, to be helpful and cooperative, or at least, to be patient to respond to the inquiries from Fudan's group. I don't think what someone in HXWZ had done was wrong, but to be patient, in order to avoid any misunder- standing and unnecessary antipathy. Thanks for your attention. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 14:25:20 -0500 From: "Hu, Ty" Subject: Information About Science Parks in China Needed Dear CCB, Would you or anyone on the net help me finding the information regarding the overseas Chinese Student Science Park in Hefei, Anhui and Tianjin? I'd appreciate it very much. my address: Tyhu@mbcl.rutgers.edu Thank you, T Hu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:38:34 -0400 From: npetry@nn4k.petnet.med.umich.edu (Neil Petry, 6-5155, Nuc Pharm) Subject: China health care list? Net Coordinator: Do you know of any lists which communicate information related to the emerging health care system in China? A referral to any such list will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance in this regard. Neil A. Petry Clinical Assist Prof Pharmacy Assist Prof Internal Medicine/Nuclear Medicine University of Michigan Medical Center, Ann Arbor, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 12:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gray Zhu, 800-289-2498,212-279-6700 Chatfield Dean" Subject: Announcing ICnet (Investment Club) ~~~~~~~~~~~ Announcing ICnet (Investment Club on network) ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear friends, My name is Gray Zhu, a long time investment fan. Motivated by the fact that many friends really want to learn more about investment and simply do not know where to start, I would like to introduce you ICnet - a free Investment Club on network organized as a mailing list. The purpose of this club is to help folks understand the investment environment, security market, and to provide a place for exchange of information and opinion. Also, being in the financial industry (a stock broker in New York City), I may have chances to know more about the real world than some of you, I would be glad to answer some of your questions on the net. The following aspects could be discussed on ICnet: FACTS: e.g. As of this year, average savings account interest rate is less than 3%, average annual inflation is about 3%; average return in stock investment is more than 12% over last thirty years; An IRA (Individual Retirement Account) can deduct your current taxable income by $2000/year, and this $2000 would turn into almost $60,000 assuming the 12% growth rate when you retire after thirty years. MARKET: e.g. Interest rate is to go up again? EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL: e.g. stocks/mutual funds/options/bonds... etc. how and where to start investing? how to protect a profit or prevent a loss? QUESTIONS and DISCUSSIONS: whatever you want to ask. Generally, this is for novice level investors and fans. If you are an experienced investor, this may be wasting your time and disk space. To join the net, drop an E-mail to grayzhu@panix.com, your address will be put into a mailing list, and you will be receiving message from me once or twice a week with subject starting "IC". You have no obligation for joining the net whatsoever, never. You are encouraged to introduce this to your friends, because the more people we have, the more information and ideas we can share. You are also welcome to contribute anything which you think is benefitial to the rest of us, contributions will be collected and distributed. ______________________________________________________________________ Gray Zhu, Ph.D grayzhu@panix.com DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed by me is not necessarily my employer's, it is not intended to be formal and accurate. 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