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From: rheschel@Phoenix.kent.edu (Fusion)
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KENNY MORSE (kennystar@aol.com) wrote:
: For those of you who live in the Los Angeles 
area and have seen me on television or heard me on 
: talkradio in my role as MR. TRAFFIC (or have been in my 
traffic school classes).....here is MY 
: take on the repeal on the laws:

<<ed>>

: Will more
: people die?  YEP!  In America, the #1 
: factor involved in auto fatalities is SPEED.

Funny, according to my sources, SPEED as  a number isnt responsible,
but the differences in speed between vehicles. (R&T)

ie: I'm doing 10 over, your doing 30 over. I overtake and pass
vehicles doing the 'limit' at a reasonable pace, giving those ahead
time to see me coming and to know I'm there. This also gives me time
to read the traffic and help avoid the more obvious situations.

You zip up on vehicles. They do a mirror check and your either a good
distance behind, or not seen. They take a breath, change lanes, and
Pow, impact. Just one scenario. Many more possible.

To loosley quote an article, "You can drive at light speed untill your
old, just as long as you dont hit anything."

Thats the key. Learning how Not to hit things. Learning how to keep a
heads up attitude, the personal limits of the operator, vehicle
limits, and learning how to read the limits imposed by the road and
enviroment. 

New drivers cant learn this in a 3 month driving class, and they are
not inclined to as the testing in most states is Too easy. Advanced
drivers schools are available, but not compulsive. The people in these
classes realize more knowledge is needed, and they pay $1200 +++++ to
learn. Cant say this about a new driver. They just want to drive.

Instructors try, but because of time limits,necessary material is
reduced to fit. Not mentioning the misinformation spread by schools,
etc. 

To say speed kills is a simplistic answer doled out by those to make
their jobs easier, and to appeal to the dim who seek simple solutions. 


: Here's MY solution:  Raise the speed 
limit up to 65 (hey, EVERYONE is doing it anyway and will 
: NOT stop doing it!!!!).  Let people go 65 and 
NOT get penalized for it. BUT.......if you get caught 
: going over 70.....minimum $250 fine!  

And this will reduce "avoidable incidence" below 65? 

And people will be just as ill-equiped when, doing 'the limit', they
crest a hill or round a corner and find Grand Ma or Pa in 
the 'middle' lane doing 35.


: Vettes).  But since the education of drivers SUCKS, 
and people think they own the road, and 
: courtesy is a long lost thing. we NEED 
laws to protect us from others, and speed limits are the #1 
: laws we need.

Oh yes, Laws are the invisible shield keeping bad things from
happening to good people. (Hey, You doing 50 over, I got my law here,
you cant hurt me, Nya Nya Nyaaaa! Hit your brakes, woops, they faded,
turn the wheels! Too much! Your gonna crash, Your Gonna CRA...)

Laws are like Rubbers, When you discover they didnt work, it's too late.

  I know.....I'm the guy who hears the stories from 
the majority of drivers.....YOU 
: just know what happens to you and your best friends!  

You want GOOD stories? Visit a motorcycle group. Some real good
stories about no-brainer screw ups.
 
I have learned from the majority....I pass it 
: on to you

Pass along the stories, Keep your stats to yourself.

Mark

--
                                                                              
rheschel@pheonix.kent.edu                                                     

Safe Passage.                                                                 

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kennystar@aol.com (KENNY MORSE) wrote:

>For those of you who live in the Los Angeles area and have seen me on television or heard me on 
>talkradio in my role as MR. TRAFFIC (or have been in my traffic school classes).....here is MY 
>take on the repeal on the laws:

>#1: Although the Senate & house WILL probably pass the bill, the administration has already 
>indicated they are against it because of the increase in lives lost  (hey....they want to keep taxpayers 

>alive as long as possible to pay and pay!)  Do they have any point?  Well.....I'm in a unique position 

>to know what drivers REALLY do.....I speak to more people who get tickets than anyone else in 

Really think your position is that unique?   I'm in THE position (along with
millions of others) to know what drivers REALLY do - I drive on roads and
highways !!!


>California via my classes and media work, and in the areas where they raised the speed limit up to 
>65 (in CA , there are 1704 miles of 65 roadway) the good news is that there hase NOT been an 
>appreciable rise in fatalities.  Why? Because those roads here in CA are in "the boonies".  Whas 
>HAS happened, is that in tose areas, the FLOW OF TRAFFIC is between 75-80.  This is the 
>point....if the states reset their speeds to higher than 55, people WILL STILL take 
>advantage.....people will STILL get tickets and the state will STILL make money!  Will more 
>people die?  YEP!  In America, the #1 factor involved in auto fatalities is SPEED. (Strangely 
>enough, the #1 cause of accidents here in CA is NOT speeding.....it's 
>TAILGAITING....SPEEDING is #2).  SO.................raising the speed limit up to 65 will NOT 
>affect anyone NOW getting tickets between 56 and 64...that hardly happens now.  It will only 
>trigger MORE TICKETS, MORE ACCIDENTS, MORE FATALITIES!

Depends on what you mean by "#1 factor".  If you mean what's the most commonly
cited reason listed on the accident report you're right, speed is the great
catchall when the cops have no idea what else might have caused the acident.
I don't believe there is a box to check for "differential speed too great" or
"I have no idea what caused it".  The real #1 cause of auto fatalities is
running into something, whether it's another car, or a bridge rail, or the
side of a mountain.  It doesn't matter what speed people go (under most
circumstances) if they would just avoid hitting things.  That's why the
fatality rate has steadily dropped year after year after year inspite of the
ups and downs in the speed limit.  Roads are safer then they used to be.  Most
have better guardrail, better sight distance, and minimum 30 foot clear zones
for recovery.  Sand barrels are deployed in front of fixed objects, etc, etc.


>Here's MY solution:  Raise the speed limit up to 65 (hey, EVERYONE is doing it anyway and will 
>NOT stop doing it!!!!).  Let people go 65 and NOT get penalized for it. BUT.......if you get caught 

>going over 70.....minimum $250 fine!  

Thanks but no thanks, we have enough Nannyism in gvt and absurd and arbitary
penalties.  Raise the limit back to what it used to be on most interstate
highways, 75 mph and have a public education campagn to teach the drivers the
difference between the fast lane and slow lane and how to look in their
mirrors.


>I wish this was like the Autobahn.  I LOVE going fast as much as anyone (my first 5 cars were 
>Vettes).  But since the education of drivers SUCKS, and people think they own the road, and 
>courtesy is a long lost thing. we NEED laws to protect us from others, and speed limits are the #1 
>laws we need.  I know.....I'm the guy who hears the stories from the majority of drivers.....YOU 
>just know what happens to you and your best friends!  I have learned from the majority....I pass it 
>on to you

Well if the education of drivers sucks then lets fix THAT, not dumb down the
speed limits.  We don't NEED more laws, we need people with SKILLS or else
don't give them a licsense.


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From: addam@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani)
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In article <3vu74s$60@news-e1a.megaweb.com>,
KENNY MORSE <kennystar@megaweb.com> wrote:
>Kenny Morse
>"Mr. Traffic" on
>Los Angeles Radio & TV  responding to

I was just wondering when you appear on TV or radio. Is it on talk radio
or something? I'd never heard of you before you posted. (Not a flame,
just asking)


-- 
Adam Villani
addam@cco.caltech.edu
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~addam
"I was in this prematurely air-conditioned supermarket..."

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In article <3vub24$9rj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Adam Neil Villani wrote:
>In article <3vu74s$60@news-e1a.megaweb.com>,
>KENNY MORSE <kennystar@megaweb.com> wrote:
>>Kenny Morse
>>"Mr. Traffic" on
>>Los Angeles Radio & TV  responding to
>
>I was just wondering when you appear on TV or radio. Is it on talk radio
>or something? I'd never heard of you before you posted. (Not a flame,
>just asking)
>
>

Adam...

Thanks for asking.

I have been producing/hosting my own TV show called "ASK MR. TRAFFIC"
since 1990.  It has been seen on ALL the local cable systems in the metro LA area,
and its most popular site is Century Cable.  I hosted the radio version of it on
KIEV-AM 87 for a year.

Now, I am a regular contributor on KABC Talk radio on the Michael Jackson
Show, and do news reports for KCBS-TV Channel 2 News from time to time.
I was recently on the ABC National show MIKE & MATY and GOOD MORNING
AMERICA.

Kenny Morse
"Mr. Traffic"


P.S. The reason I signed that post like I did is because it was also posted
on the rec.auto.driving newsgroup to someone outside California.
>-- 
>Adam Villani
>addam@cco.caltech.edu
>http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~addam
>"I was in this prematurely air-conditioned supermarket..."
>



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In article <3vub24$9rj@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
Adam Neil Villani <addam@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>In article <3vu74s$60@news-e1a.megaweb.com>,
>KENNY MORSE <kennystar@megaweb.com> wrote:
>>Kenny Morse
>>"Mr. Traffic" on
>>Los Angeles Radio & TV  responding to
>
>I was just wondering when you appear on TV or radio. Is it on talk radio
>or something? I'd never heard of you before you posted. (Not a flame,
>just asking)

Proof that KENNY's ratings are not doing as well as he'd like on WFDR.  
Perhaps he's here to drum up some business.

>
>
>-- 
>Adam Villani
>addam@cco.caltech.edu
>http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~addam
>"I was in this prematurely air-conditioned supermarket..."


-- 
Scott Dunn : scotdun@netcom.com : FOIA/PA researcher, tutor 
"When there is crime in government, there is no justice." --Potato

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In article <3vub24$9rj@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
Adam Neil Villani <addam@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>In article <3vu74s$60@news-e1a.megaweb.com>,
>KENNY MORSE <kennystar@megaweb.com> wrote:
>>Kenny Morse
>>"Mr. Traffic" on
>>Los Angeles Radio & TV  responding to
>
>I was just wondering when you appear on TV or radio. Is it on talk radio
>or something? I'd never heard of you before you posted. (Not a flame,
>just asking)

Proof that KENNY's ratings are not doing as well as he'd like on WFDR.  
Perhaps he's here to drum up some business.

>
>
>-- 
>Adam Villani
>addam@cco.caltech.edu
>http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~addam
>"I was in this prematurely air-conditioned supermarket..."


-- 
Scott Dunn : scotdun@netcom.com : FOIA/PA researcher, tutor 
"When there is crime in government, there is no justice." --Potato

