SrI:
Dear Members :
Indeed Smy.Jayashree Saranathan
shares with us scholarly inputs
based on her intensive research .
It is a good idea to start another
web
site to teach the fundamentals of
JyOthisham , where interested
parties can join in and benefit .
V.Sadagopan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:18
PM
Subject: Re: [Oppiliappan] Re: A
CLARIFICATION on Agni Nakshathram
Smt. Jayasree Saranathan has been a excellent contibutor over the years.
Her knowledge is vast. I kindly request her to start the course on
Astrology.
Dear Swamin,
I reiterate the suggestion of Sri Seshadri Sampath swami. Please
start a course on Horoscope.
Regards
Raghunathan
nssampath123
<nssampath123@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Members, The explanations given by Srimathy Jayasree
Saranathan is excellent. She can definetely start a course on Horoscope
which will benefit every one. Dr.Sadagopan Swamin is doing wonderful
job not only in getting views from various learnered persons but also
gives his views on various interesting subjects. May his service
continue with the grace of Lord Narayana. adiyen, nochalur
seshadri sampath. --- In Oppiliappan@yahoogroups.com,
"Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@. ..> wrote: > > Dear
Memebrs : > > Srimathy Jayasree Saranathan's excellent
analysis in two parts > would be most interesting to many of You
.It is my pleasure to > share these two postings with You . >
> V.Sadagopan > > > > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: "Jayasree Saranathan"
<jayasree.saranathan@...> > > > >
SrI: > > Respected bhagavathas, > >
Pranams. > > Let me offer my understanding of agni nakshatram
as a continuing > student of astrology and as one who is always
interested in putting > vedic dharma into scientific and rational
perspective. The following > contains interpretations from this
writer's understanding based on > facts available. Any correction is
welcome. > > (1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the
time when sun moves > through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam
to Rohini 1st paadam. > > These are Bharani 3rd & 4th,
all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and Rohini > 1st paadam. >
> If we look at the paada chaaram (which can be understood by
looking at > the placement in navamsa chart), sun in Bharani 3rd
paadam means, the > sun will be in thula (libra) just opposite to
mesha in navamsa. This > is sun's neecha (debilitation) point in
navamsa. > > As per astrology, the influence of any planet
must be judged from the > paadam in which it is placed and this is
displayed in navamsa. > > If the sun is in thulaam in
navamasa, it means its strength is zero. > >From thulaam to
meenam, its strength increases gradually and at mesha > it gains its
full strength. > This part of sun's movement from thulam to meenam
is the descending > side of its chaaram (as we all know from the
ahorathra concept that > there are always 2 sides, ascending and
descending / uttrayana and > dhakshinayana etc). > > As
per the general rule in astrology which forbids conducting >
auspicious events in descending or dhakshin ayana, this descending >
chaaram of sun is considered to be unsuitable for auspicious
events. > This rule is pronounecedly followed in the case of sun
since it > happens to be atmakaraka, and the very lord of all gruhas
and the > Giver of Life. > > (2) Another way to look at
it is that the movement of the gruhaas is > not always uniform, as
seen from the earth. That is why we get to see > vakra chaaram
(retrogade motion). > For planets other than the sun ( the sun is
considered as a planet in > astrology), there happens
'sthamabhitham' or sudden stoppage before > and after retrogation
when there will be no movement as seen from the > earth. In the case
of the sun, the speed seems to be lowered during > this agni
nakshtra period. This is because of the movement of the > earth
which seems to cover the distance slowly when it is closer to > the
sun (laws of planetary motion.) - case of closer to 'sthambhitham' >
when auspicious events are not done. > > (3) The traverse of
the sun across every star is of some significance > and another
popularly known traverse is the 'garbhOttam' which happens > when
the sun travels through all the 4 paadams of pooraadam >
(poorvashaada). The analysis of this will make us get some
insight > into agni nakshatram. > > This happens in
maargazhi and is said to be the time when the sun > helps in
drinking the water of the ocean so that there will be rains > in the
rest of the year. > The ati devatha for poordam is varuna. >
Interestingly, (if one observes) this time period is when >
meteorologists say El nino factor occurs around the globe. As many
as > 30+ factors / parameters are noticed during this period in
the > Pacific especially, that are said to determine the amount and
spread > of rains for the year ahead. > Interestingly, this is
the month of 'maargazhi neeradal' - a nOnbu > that had been in vogue
in Ancient Tamil land (a number of proofs are > there in ancient
literature) when young girls pray for rains! > > Sri Andal
who adopted this nOnbu for spiritual awakening retained the > core
principle of this nOnbu of Tamil culture ( i am not bringing here >
the Melayaar interpretations and Bhagavatham's kaarthyaayini
nOnbu, > but only the purpose for which it was done in Ancient Tamil
land) by > dedicating the 3rd and 4 th song to prayer for rain.
(infact a thorugh > analysis of the 30 songs do reveal a pattern -
prayer and sankalpa > in the 1st and 2nd, and in tandem with the
goal of nOnbu that had been > in vogue, 3rd and 4th pasurams were
dedicated to paryer for rains, > before proceeding to her message.
There is every chance to believe > that the 3rd and 4th pasuram days
belonged to sun moving through > pooradam in that period she sang,
which makes it possible for us to > calculate her times. ) >
> Similarly the agni nakshtra is the period having specific
significance. > > krittika is the star that is mainly
covered. > > According ancient scriptures, Krittika is the
beginning of the zodiac > and not Ashwini. > > The
nakshatra sukta from Yajurveda, proves this: > > "agnirnaH.
pAtu kr.ttikAh.....". [Krishna Yajurveda TaittirIya > brAhmaNa
4-4-4-10] > > It starts praising dieties of stars from
KrittikA(Agni - the creation) > to BharaNI(Yama - the
death). > > Further, the nakshatra sukta from AtharvaNa Veda
[19-7-2,3,4,5] > > "suhavam agne kR^ittikA rohiNI chAstu
bhadraM mR^igashiraH sham ArdrA / > punarvasU sUnR^itA chAru puShyo
bhAnur AshleShA ayanaM maghA me //2//" > > Again it starts
from KrittikA and ends in BharaNI! The above two > verses from
different Vedas were compiled by different sages at > different
times but still the order is the same! > To support it strongly, we
have another proof in the above verse - > "AYANAM MAGHA ME", which
surely puts dakShiNAyana or Summer soltice > point at maghA star!
Yes! Not Punarvasu-4th quarter as it is taken > now! Since this will
atke us to other questions on ayanamsa, let me > come back to our
point of interest. > > Krittika is the starting star. >
Krittika has Agni as its atidevatha! > But Bharani has yama as ati
devatha! > After the lord of Death come the Lord of
creation. > Since these overlap and conjoin (In the rasi chakra,
there are groups > of 3 containing 4 rasis each. At aayilayam,
kEttai and Revathy only, > the group end. At other cusps of rasis,
there is continuity) > Therefore, the continuing Krittika from Mesha
to Vrishabha will take > up both bharani and Rohini's
influence. > > The time when the kaaraka for Fire, the Mars
rules (as moola thrikona) > , and the Sun as karaka for heat and
dominance has moved out of its > uchha bala (sun attains deep
exaltation at 10 degrees in Mesha at > Ashwini and starts losing its
uccha from bharani onwards) and when > yama as atidevatha for
Bharani and Agni as ati deata for Krittika are > ruling, the time is
not meant for auspicious events. > > Another way to look at
it is though Krittika is meant for Creation and > its ati devatha
Agni is supposed to be a Giver, the main Giver, the > Sun losing its
immediate uccha bala will tend to put things at the >
reverse. > > Another way is that the 27 the star is to be
discared / disregarded > /and the immediate next also is to be
disregarded and therefore the > preceeding and succedding star
paadams of Krittika are to be > disregarded for auspicious
events. > > With Sun in descending node in these paadams it
will reverse the > purpose of creation for which krittika stands and
therefore the lunar > aspect of the month namely Vishaka whose lords
are Indra and Agni (for > rains and creation = prosperity ) is
chosen for celebration. > > Since Subramanya is the Lord of
Mesha maasam, and born in Krittika > with its qualities, agni
nakshatra is important in his kshetras. It is > to be noted that
this period is known for theertha kaavadi, > signifying a prayer for
lowering the heat of the combination of sun, > mars and agni as
devatha for Krittika. > > (4) At another level, bharani
stands for ancestors too. The Ati > devatha Yama desired, "May I win
the lordship of the ancestors." One > who makes the appropriate
offering to Yama and to Bharani wins the > lordship of the ancestors
and wins the lordship of his peers. > Therfore this period is not
regarded for mundane events. > > Regards, > >
jayasree
saranathan >
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