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SrI:
 
Dear Members :
 
Indeed Smy.Jayashree Saranathan
shares with us scholarly inputs
based on her intensive research .
 
It is a good idea to start another web
site to teach the fundamentals of
JyOthisham , where interested
parties can join in and benefit .
 
V.Sadagopan   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Oppiliappan] Re: A CLARIFICATION on Agni Nakshathram

Smt. Jayasree Saranathan has been a excellent contibutor over the years. Her knowledge is vast. I kindly request her to start the course on Astrology.
 
Dasan, Jayakrishna

raghunathan r <rraghunathan_in@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Swamin,
 
I reiterate the suggestion of Sri Seshadri Sampath swami.  Please start a course on Horoscope.
 
Regards
Raghunathan

nssampath123 <nssampath123@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Members,
The explanations given by Srimathy Jayasree Saranathan is excellent.
She can definetely start a course on Horoscope which will benefit
every one. Dr.Sadagopan Swamin is doing wonderful job not only in
getting views from various learnered persons but also gives his views
on various interesting subjects. May his service continue with the
grace of Lord Narayana.

adiyen,
nochalur seshadri sampath.

--- In Oppiliappan@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Memebrs :
>
> Srimathy Jayasree Saranathan's excellent analysis in two parts
> would be most interesting to many of You .It is my pleasure to
> share these two postings with You .
>
> V.Sadagopan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayasree Saranathan" <jayasree.saranathan@...>
>
>
>
> SrI:
>
> Respected bhagavathas,
>
> Pranams.
>
> Let me offer my understanding of agni nakshatram as a continuing
> student of astrology and as one who is always interested in putting
> vedic dharma into scientific and rational perspective. The following
> contains interpretations from this writer's understanding based on
> facts available. Any correction is welcome.
>
> (1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves
> through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.
>
> These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and Rohini
> 1st paadam.
>
> If we look at the paada chaaram (which can be understood by looking at
> the placement in navamsa chart), sun in Bharani 3rd paadam means, the
> sun will be in thula (libra) just opposite to mesha in navamsa. This
> is sun's neecha (debilitation) point in navamsa.
>
> As per astrology, the influence of any planet must be judged from the
> paadam in which it is placed and this is displayed in navamsa.
>
> If the sun is in thulaam in navamasa, it means its strength is zero.
> >From thulaam to meenam, its strength increases gradually and at mesha
> it gains its full strength.
> This part of sun's movement from thulam to meenam is the descending
> side of its chaaram (as we all know from the ahorathra concept that
> there are always 2 sides, ascending and descending / uttrayana and
> dhakshinayana etc).
>
> As per the general rule in astrology which forbids conducting
> auspicious events in descending or dhakshin ayana, this descending
> chaaram of sun is considered to be unsuitable for auspicious events.
> This rule is pronounecedly followed in the case of sun since it
> happens to be atmakaraka, and the very lord of all gruhas and the
> Giver of Life.
>
> (2) Another way to look at it is that the movement of the gruhaas is
> not always uniform, as seen from the earth. That is why we get to see
> vakra chaaram (retrogade motion).
> For planets other than the sun ( the sun is considered as a planet in
> astrology), there happens 'sthamabhitham' or sudden stoppage before
> and after retrogation when there will be no movement as seen from the
> earth. In the case of the sun, the speed seems to be lowered during
> this agni nakshtra period. This is because of the movement of the
> earth which seems to cover the distance slowly when it is closer to
> the sun (laws of planetary motion.) - case of closer to 'sthambhitham'
> when auspicious events are not done.
>
> (3) The traverse of the sun across every star is of some significance
> and another popularly known traverse is the 'garbhOttam' which happens
> when the sun travels through all the 4 paadams of pooraadam
> (poorvashaada). The analysis of this will make us get some insight
> into agni nakshatram.
>
> This happens in maargazhi and is said to be the time when the sun
> helps in drinking the water of the ocean so that there will be rains
> in the rest of the year.
> The ati devatha for poordam is varuna.
> Interestingly, (if one observes) this time period is when
> meteorologists say El nino factor occurs around the globe. As many as
> 30+ factors / parameters are noticed during this period in the
> Pacific especially, that are said to determine the amount and spread
> of rains for the year ahead.
> Interestingly, this is the month of 'maargazhi neeradal' - a nOnbu
> that had been in vogue in Ancient Tamil land (a number of proofs are
> there in ancient literature) when young girls pray for rains!
>
> Sri Andal who adopted this nOnbu for spiritual awakening retained the
> core principle of this nOnbu of Tamil culture ( i am not bringing here
> the Melayaar interpretations and Bhagavatham's kaarthyaayini nOnbu,
> but only the purpose for which it was done in Ancient Tamil land) by
> dedicating the 3rd and 4 th song to prayer for rain. (infact a thorugh
> analysis of the 30 songs do reveal a pattern - prayer and sankalpa
> in the 1st and 2nd, and in tandem with the goal of nOnbu that had been
> in vogue, 3rd and 4th pasurams were dedicated to paryer for rains,
> before proceeding to her message. There is every chance to believe
> that the 3rd and 4th pasuram days belonged to sun moving through
> pooradam in that period she sang, which makes it possible for us to
> calculate her times. )
>
> Similarly the agni nakshtra is the period having specific significance.
>
> krittika is the star that is mainly covered.
>
> According ancient scriptures, Krittika is the beginning of the zodiac
> and not Ashwini.
>
> The nakshatra sukta from Yajurveda, proves this:
>
> "agnirnaH. pAtu kr.ttikAh.....". [Krishna Yajurveda TaittirIya
> brAhmaNa 4-4-4-10]
>
> It starts praising dieties of stars from KrittikA(Agni - the creation)
> to BharaNI(Yama - the death).
>
> Further, the nakshatra sukta from AtharvaNa Veda [19-7-2,3,4,5]
>
> "suhavam agne kR^ittikA rohiNI chAstu bhadraM mR^igashiraH sham ArdrA /
> punarvasU sUnR^itA chAru puShyo bhAnur AshleShA ayanaM maghA me //2//"
>
> Again it starts from KrittikA and ends in BharaNI! The above two
> verses from different Vedas were compiled by different sages at
> different times but still the order is the same!
> To support it strongly, we have another proof in the above verse -
> "AYANAM MAGHA ME", which surely puts dakShiNAyana or Summer soltice
> point at maghA star! Yes! Not Punarvasu-4th quarter as it is taken
> now! Since this will atke us to other questions on ayanamsa, let me
> come back to our point of interest.
>
> Krittika is the starting star.
> Krittika has Agni as its atidevatha!
> But Bharani has yama as ati devatha!
> After the lord of Death come the Lord of creation.
> Since these overlap and conjoin (In the rasi chakra, there are groups
> of 3 containing 4 rasis each. At aayilayam, kEttai and Revathy only,
> the group end. At other cusps of rasis, there is continuity)
> Therefore, the continuing Krittika from Mesha to Vrishabha will take
> up both bharani and Rohini's influence.
>
> The time when the kaaraka for Fire, the Mars rules (as moola thrikona)
> , and the Sun as karaka for heat and dominance has moved out of its
> uchha bala (sun attains deep exaltation at 10 degrees in Mesha at
> Ashwini and starts losing its uccha from bharani onwards) and when
> yama as atidevatha for Bharani and Agni as ati deata for Krittika are
> ruling, the time is not meant for auspicious events.
>
> Another way to look at it is though Krittika is meant for Creation and
> its ati devatha Agni is supposed to be a Giver, the main Giver, the
> Sun losing its immediate uccha bala will tend to put things at the
> reverse.
>
> Another way is that the 27 the star is to be discared / disregarded
> /and the immediate next also is to be disregarded and therefore the
> preceeding and succedding star paadams of Krittika are to be
> disregarded for auspicious events.
>
> With Sun in descending node in these paadams it will reverse the
> purpose of creation for which krittika stands and therefore the lunar
> aspect of the month namely Vishaka whose lords are Indra and Agni (for
> rains and creation = prosperity ) is chosen for celebration.
>
> Since Subramanya is the Lord of Mesha maasam, and born in Krittika
> with its qualities, agni nakshatra is important in his kshetras. It is
> to be noted that this period is known for theertha kaavadi,
> signifying a prayer for lowering the heat of the combination of sun,
> mars and agni as devatha for Krittika.
>
> (4) At another level, bharani stands for ancestors too. The Ati
> devatha Yama desired, "May I win the lordship of the ancestors." One
> who makes the appropriate offering to Yama and to Bharani wins the
> lordship of the ancestors and wins the lordship of his peers.
> Therfore this period is not regarded for mundane events.
>
> Regards,
>
> jayasree saranathan
>



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