Dear BhakthAs : The earlier message got truncated and therefore I am sending the full posting .Regret the mistake . V.Sadagopan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sadagopan" <sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Ponnappan" <Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "SG" <Tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Sgt" <saranagathi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "DS" <desikasampradaya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:25 AM Subject: Saranagathi Fw: [t'venkatam] Sudarshana homa and sudarshana chakra > > Dear BhakthAs : > > SrImathi JS has provided an excellent description of > Sudarsana Chakram and it s uniqueness among > the weapons of the Lord . > > Here are some random thoughts in this context > based mostly on the insights of SrI Koora NaarAyaNa > Jeeyar , the contemproary of AchAryA Raamaanujar > and a great expert on the Vaibhavam of Sudarsana > BhagavAn . > > 1. Sudarsanam is unique as the Lord's weapon because > it represents the Sankalpa Sakthi of the Lord .If BhagavAn's > Sankalpa Sakthi is to be compared to an asthram (Mantra > Siddham ) that leaves the mind of the Lord to destroy quickly > our ajn~Anam , then the rest of the weapons of the Lord are > just sasthrams . > > 2. It is the Lord's sankalpa sakthi that blesses us > with the four kinds of PurushArTams ( The prayer > based on the fourth slOkam of SrI Sudarsana > Sathakam is : > > tEjO va: chathura: PurushArTAn pushyathAth " > > 3. It is the Lord's sankalpa sakthi that creates , > sustains and destroys the world and its entities . > > 4. Kata SaakhA salutes the Lord for that purpose as > " DhruthOrdhva PuNDra CHAKRADHAARI " . His sankalpam > is His aabharaNam and asthram . > > 5. The Nemi of the Sudarsanam is cited by SrI Koora NaarAyaNa > Jeeyar (the author of Sudarsana Sathakam ) as the guide to > the archirAdhi mArgam ( ChakradhArA aathmaneenam > panTAnam va; pradhisyAth ) . > > 6. In the 33rd slOkam of SrI Sudarsana Sathakam , > the Jeeyar states that the Sudarsana nEmi > transforms as BhagavAn HImself at the times > when the Lord engages in rakshaNam of the Universe > and its beings(e-g: Gajendra Moksham) . > > 7. In the 39th slOkam , the Jeeyar points out > that the spokes of the Sudarsana chakram > banishes all asubhams during the last moments > of one's life as BhagavAn's sankalpa sakthi ( arANi va: > anthima vipadhi thrAyanthAm). Here the arams are > visualized as the extensions of the Lord's hands. > > 8. The glories of Sudarsanam ( as the Penetrating > sankalpa sakthi of the Lord ) are celebrated in > MahOpanishad , Sathapatha BrAhmaNam , > Ahirbudhnya SamhithA (Chapter 25) , Parmaa > SamhithA ( Chapter 16) . Additional special > information on Sudarsana-Narasimha form > combining the Lord and His unique weapon is covered in > SrI M.Rangaswamy's article : > > http://www.srivaishnava.org/sgati/volume1/V01008.htm > > > 9. the 61st SlOkam of SrI Sudarsana Sathakam > is another testament to the Sankalpa Sakthi of > Sudarsana Bhagavan: > > amhas samhathya daghdhvaa prathijani > janitham prouDa samsAravanyaa > dhUrAdhvanyAna dhanyAn mahathi > vinathibhirdhAmAni sTaapayanthee > visrAnthim saasvatheem yaa nayathi > ramayathAm ChakrarAjasya naabhi: > samyanmOmuhyamAna thridasa > ripudasaa sAkshiNee saakshiNee va: > > (Meaning): The king of Chakram burns thoroughly > all the paapams of the SamsAris , who have accumulated > them over their many janmAs and takes them to > the supreme abode of the Lord and establishes them > there in the middle of great bliss.May that Bhagavath > Sankalpa svaroopi , who is the conferrer of boons > and remover of all obstacles delight Your eyes ! > > 10) The 73rd slOkam of Sri Sudarsana Sathakam > provides addiitonal insight into the uniqueness of > Chakra Raajan : > > SrI VaaNI vaang mruDAnyO vidhadhathi > bhajanam sakthayO yasya dhikshu > prAha vyUham yadhAdhyam > praTamamapi-guNam Bhaarathy PaancharAthree > ghOrAm SaanthAm cha Moorthy praTayathi > Purusha: prAktana: prArTanAbhi: > BhakthAnAm yasyamadhyE disathu > tadhanagAm akshamadhyakshathAm Va: > > (Meaning): The Aksham of Sudarsanam is recognized as > the PraTama vyUham of Para VaasudEvan and the first of > the Six guNams of BhagavAn (viz) Jn~Anam by Ahirbudhnya > Samhithai. Sree , VaaNee , Vaak , MruDAni , the Sakthis of > the four VyUha Moorthys celebrate the Sudarsana aksham > from the four directions according to PaancharAthra > Saashtram . Lord Sudarsana appears in His tranquil > form (Saantha Roopam ), when bhakthAs worship Him . > When the same BhakthAs seek him and offer their > worship for removal of anishtams (asubhams) , He > appears in His fierce form to chase those anishtams. > May the Lord of both these forms give you lordship > ( aadhikyam/AdhyakshathAm disathu ) over the conductance > of your activities leading to the Lord ! Sudarsana: Purusha: > Va: PourushAya bhUyAth ( Prayer in the 75th slOkam of > Sudarsana Kavacham ). > > 11) The 76th sLokam clearly states that Sudarsanar is > the Sankalpa Sakthi of Para VaasudEvan . In RaamAvathAram > that sakthi manifested as the arrows of Lord Raamachandra , > as His uplifted incisor ( kOra pall that positioned BhU Devi > duirng the journey from below the waters) , as the nail in > NrusimhAvathAram and axe in ParasurAmAvathAram .It was > in the Pavithram in the hnad of Vaamana Moorthy and > destroyed one eye of SukrAchArya . > > 12) In the next Sathaka slOkam , The SudarsanOpasakar > identifies Lord Sudarsana as " VishNu Sankalpa Vruksha: ". > The Kalpaka tree , which protects the aasrithALs from > the heat of SamsAram (NIzhal tanthu Veppatthai pOkki > vENDiya PhalankaLai yrellAm kodukkum Bhagavath > Sankalpa Sakthi Vruksham ). > > 13) The presence of this Sankalpa sakthi in Six or eight chakrams > are saluted by slOkams 90 and 91. He is present as Kaala Chakram > in ShaDaram , PruTvee chakram in PanchAram , Ap chakram in > Chathuraram , tEjas chakram in thriAram , Vaayu Chakram in > DhviAram nad AakAsa chakram in yEka chakram . He engages > in the five kinds of ativities as the instrument of Bhagavath > Sankalpam : Uthpatthi, Sthithi, SamhAram , nigraham and > anugraham . In the Yanthram , He is manifest in the middle of > the Sudarsana Yanthram with six triangles ,Six aksharams > and six lotuses . > > 14) In this Yanthram , twelve UpavyUha Moorthys > are present as VYashti BhUthaas according to > the observations of U.Ve. SrI SthalasayanatthuRaivAr > Swamy of ThiruvallikkENi : Kesavan , NaarAyaNan and > Maadhavan are the three VaasudEva Vyashti BhUthAL and their > DEvis are the three SrI Sakthis ; Thrivikraman , Vaamanan and > SrIdharan are the Vyashti bhUthAls of Pradhyumna Moorthy > having three Vaak sakthis; Govindhan VishNu and Madhusoodhanan > are the SankarshaNa Vyashti BhUthAL with the three VaaNee > Sakthis; HrusheekEsan , PadhmanAbhan and DhAmOdharan > are the Aniruddha Vyashti BhUthAls with three MruDAni > Sakthees . The prayer here is : " Laksmeesakhasya Lakshma > Va: sphurathu ". > > 15) In the 100th slOkam , SrI Koora NaarAyaNa Jeeyar reveals > that the Divine couple leaves the burden of administration of > the Sakala CharAcharams in the hands of Their Sankalpa Sakthi, > Sudarshanar and are engaged in their BhOga leelA vyApArams : > > Yasmin vinyasya bhAram vijayini > jagathAm jangama sthAvarANAm > Lakshmee NaarAyaNAkhyam miTuna- > manubhavathyathyudhArAn vihAran > aarOgyam bhUthimAyu: kruthamiha > bahunA yadhyadhAsTApadham va: > Sa PurushO DhivyahEthyakshavarthee > > " Sudarsana Purusha: Va: Samastham > Phalam sadhya: disathu ". > > Chakra Saayujya Lakshmee PathayE Nama: > > Daasan , Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jasn sn" <jayasartn@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <jai_2_u@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:55 PM > Subject: [t'venkatam] Sudarshana homa and sudarshana chakra > > >> >> SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA. >> >> This mail is an attempt to reply queries on sudarshana >> homa and the sudarshana chakra. >> Sri Jayaraman has raised the following questions: >> "Thus Can we say lord nArAyaNan grants boom when we >> workship sudharsana or do sudharsana homam. (OR) Is >> sudharsana and lord narayana is one and the same? Is >> there any references available for this. " >> >> The question on sudarshana homa is being answered on >> the basis of the Principle of Universal problem >> solving which in philosophical terms is closer to what >> sage Yagyavalkya told Maitreyi as the principle of >> that Principal Being knowing whom, it becomes possible >> to know everything else. Here the knowledge is that >> Sriman Narayana is Supreme and the In-dweller of all >> beings. He is the one who actually receives the >> offerings in the sacrifices and grants the results >> accordingly. It therefore comes to imply that Narayana >> is Supreme and Sudharshana enjoys only a subsidiary or >> a secondary status to Him. It is He who receives and >> grants the offerings and results. >> >> But when Sudharshana chakra (or in any name ) is >> meditated upon in a Homa, specific pleas are being >> made in consonance with what Sudarshana has been >> ordained to carry out. It is not to add some positive >> virtues in as much as it is only to ward off evils and >> obstacles in the path of the chetana. The mantra makes >> it amply clear that the blessings of Sudarshana are >> being invoked to destroy enemies as well as the evil >> effects that are likely to affect the chetana and to >> bless him with long life. (para karma mantra, yantra, >> tantra, astra, shashtraaNi samhara samhara, mruthyor >> moshaya moshaya, aayur varthaya varthaya, shathror >> naashaya naashaya) >> >> While all the 5 weapons of the Lord provide protection >> (in) 'vanE, ranE, shathru, jalaagni madhyE' and (in) >> 'maha bhayEshu', the sudarshana has a special place >> among them. This might be because of the repeated use >> of this by the Lord on many occasions. At the >> philosophical level too, it is the chakra and not the >> other forms of weapons that has been found to posses >> many implications - some of which as found in >> Svetahswathara upanishad are given here:- >> >> # in verse I-4, the created universe is described as >> Brahma chakra. >>> Eka nEmim - this is the axis denoting Maya on which >> the prapanjam revolves.> >>> Trivrutam - the three supporting belts are the three >> gunas. >>> Shoda chaaram -26 edges consisting of 5 elements, 5 >> gyanendriya, 5 karmendriya and manas. >>  Shathaardhaaram - 50 spokes consisting of 5 >> viparyayam, 28 Ashakti, 9 thiushti and 8 siddhi >>  Vimshathi prathyaraabhi - 20 secondary spokes >> that consist of 10 indriyas and 10 vishaya. >>  Ashtahbhi:shadbhi: -the 48 angas consisting >> of 6 of 8 each (prakruthi ashtakam, dhathu ashtakam, >> ishwarya ashtakam, bhavashtakam, devashtakam and >> gunashtakam) >>  Eka paasham - the rope of kaama or desire. >>  Tri maarga bhedam -the three different ways >> such as dharma. Adharma and gyana >>  Dwi-naimitthaika mOham - the rotation of this >> chakra under the pull of kaama, the rope gives rise to >> results of two types such as paapa and punya, >> happiness and sadness and so on. >> >> In verse I-6 it is being said that the jiva known as >> 'hamsa' (aham sa: , I am Him) is being rotated in this >> Brahma chakra. When the jiva realises the nature of >> himself vis-a vis the Brahman, he is liberated from >> the Chakra. >> >> Relating this to sudarshana chakra, it can be said >> that the jiva is protected by the sudarshana when he >> goes round as part of the Brahma chakra. Meditation on >> the In-dweller of the Sudarshana helps the jiva to >> relieve himself from the Eka paasham leading to the >> realisation 'aham sa:'. Upon Realisation he starts >> carrying out commands as ordained by Him and by means >> of the modes chosen by Him. This to my sittrarivu, >> seems to be the explanation for how and why azhwars >> came to embody the qualities of the Divya aayudas of >> the Lord. >> >> Ever in the thought of Him, >> adiyAL >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> >> >> Namo VenkateshAya namah: >> >> >> To Post a message, send it to: tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >> tiruvenkatam-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Yahoo! 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