Dear Ramesh Srinivasan
Very interesting questions and also raised at an appropriate time. I will
attempt to answer the following:.
"Moreover, in the prayoga assoiated with these tarpaNa mantra-s, we seem>
to differentiate in the manner of pouring water - the first 7 being r^iShi
tIrta, the 8th being brahma tIrtha and the 9th being deva tIrtha. Why this
distinction and what is its origin?"
Adiyen's answers:
The ninth is also a rishi tirtha. Sadasaspati comes under the rishi-varga.
The following is the pramana: (Parasara smruti ?)
Kanishta, deshi, angushta, Moolaanagram karasyaya
prajapapati pitru braham deva tirthan anukramaath
The water should leave the root of the aforesaid fingers.
Also deva tirtha - upaveetham
Rishi: Niveetam
Pitru: Niveetham etc with respect to the Yagnyopaveetham
The basic belief is that the root of each finger represents a node that is
connected to the different beings such as pitrus, devatas etc.
Hope this clarifies you query to some extent with respaect to this question.
Vijayaraghavan Chakravarthy
Buffalo/NY
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><saranagathi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ramanujamission@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "SRS"
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>Subject: [RamanujaMission] Re: [t'venkatam] kANDa r^iShi-s and their
>significance
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:41:03 -0400
>
>Sri:
>
>Dear Sri Ramesh Srinivasan :
>
>I will get you answers for some of your questions on
>UpAkarma soon .
>
>Your questions are excellent . That reminds me of the adage
>Rishi Moolam , Nadhi Moolam indicatign the ancient nature of
>Rishi Paramparai .
>
>Meanwhile , I welcome others to resspond to the specific queries .
>There is indeed a reasoning behind the various steps of different
>SamskArams .
>
>NamO Veda PurushAya ,
>V.Sadagopan
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ramesh Srinivasan" <ramesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:46 PM
>Subject: [t'venkatam] kANDa r^iShi-s and their significance
>
>
>
> Respected elders,
>
> Every year, during the upAkarma observance, we offer gratitude and homage
>o
> the kANDa R^iShi-s associated with our particular veda shAkhA. In
> particular, for the kR^iShNa yajur veda taittirIya shAkhA, we chant the
> following mantra-s during the kANDa r^iShi tarpaNam:
>
> (i) prajApatim kANDarshim tarpayAmi
> (ii) sOmam kANDarshim tarpayAmi
> (iii) agnim kANDarshim tarpayAmi
> (iv) viSvAn devAn kANDarshIn tarpayAmi
> (v) sAmhitIr devatA upanishadas tarpayAmi
> (vi) yajnikIr devatA upanishadas tarpayAmi
> (vii) vAruNIr devatA upanishadas tarpayAmi
> (viii) brahmANaGM svayambhuvam tarpayAmi
> (ix) sadasaspatim tarpayAmi
>
> It is my understanding that the first four lines above refer to the 4
>kANDa
> r^iShi-s - prajApati, soma, agni and vishvedevAH. However, I am unsure
>about
> the following questions and would be grateful to learn from knowledgable
> elders in this forum:
>
> 1. BhagavAn veda vyAsa is the compiler and editor of the 4 veda-s.
>However,
> the fact that we remember the 4 kANDa r^iShi-s every year during upAkarmA
> and utsarjana indicates that they must have played a momentous role in
>the
> transmission of the veda-s. In addition, between upanayana and vivAha
> samskAra, every brahmacAri is enjoined to perform the catvAri veda
>vratAni
> to propitiate each kANDA r^iShi before commencing the study of the
> associated saMhitA portion. What is the specific contribution of the
>kANDa
> r^iShi-s that earns them this high place of honor in the vaidika
>saMpradAya?
>
> 2. Since the taittirIya saMhitA consists of 7 kANDa-s, what is the
>division
> (mapping) of these 7 kANDa-s amongst the 4 kANDa r^iShi-s?
>
> 3. During the upAkarma observance, we perform *nava* kANDa r^iShi arpaNa.
> Who are the remaining 5 r^iShi-s whom we worship thus? What is the>
>significance of propitiating them?>
> 4. Moreover, in the prayoga assoiated with these tarpaNa mantra-s, we
>seem>
>to differentiate in the manner of pouring water - the first 7 being r^iShi
> tIrta, the 8th being brahma tIrtha and the 9th being deva tIrtha. Why
>this
> distinction and what is its origin?
>
> 5. We perfrom tarpaNam by wearing the sacred thread as a garland
>(nivItam).
> What is the significance behind this?
>
>
> I would be very grateful for your kind elucidation of this matter. If I
>have
> erred in my understanding as stated above, I would appreciate being
> corrected by the esteemed members of this forum.
>
>
> With respectful namaskAram-s,
> Ramesh
>
>
>
>
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