Dear Sri Gopalam Karamchedu :
Thanks for your posting .
At one time , Thiruppathy/Thirumala was
the northern boundary of Tamizh speaking people .
Vangipuram (Vengipuram) , Saatlur (ChEtlUr? )
vamsams of AchAryaas and others advanced
Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . During
the disturbances of Muslim invasions , many left
for the safety of Cauvery Delta . Two of the three stalwarts
of Karnatic Music came from their villages in Rayala Seema
(St. Thyagaraja) and elsewhere in Telugu dEsam .
Thirumala was the magnet . Great kings like KrishNa deva Nayak
advanced the cause of VaishNavism both in Telugu speaking
land and in the Tamil Speaking land .
>From Telugu speaking land , VaishNavism spread onward north
to BihAr , Orissa , Bengal and RaajasthAn during AchArya RaamAnujA's
time . Today's posting by Srimans Venkataraman DhivAkar about
VaishNavam in Telugu speaking land and in BihAr would be of interest to
list members .
Sri RaamAnuja Daasan ,
V.Sadagopan
----- Original Message -----
From: "K.B. gopalam" <alamkbg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <parakalamatham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:29 AM
Subject: [SriParakalaMatham] Vaishnavas in AP.
>
>
> Srimate ramanujayanamaha!
> Srimadabhinava Ranganatha Parakalamahadesikaya Namaha!
>
> The discussion regarding the Hebbar ayyangars is
> intersting.
>
> I belong to a group of Ayyangars from Telangana in
> andhra Pradesh. I only know that my forefathers came
> to this state on the invitation of The Nizam of
> Hyderbad who wanted some regular Araadhanam in the
> Vaishnavite temples in his Kingdom.
>
> We do not have marital relations with the other
> Vaishnavites in the state.
>
> There were some families who came to Andhra Pradesh
> because of teh temple at Tirumala. They are still
> known as Tirumala Vamsham and many sub groups have
> arisen out of it. Perhaps many families have come to
> Tirumala to look after the nitya Kainkaryam of Swmy at
> Tirumala.
>
> We do not belong to such Tirumala clan either.
>
> Is therea town in Karnataka by name Karamchedu or
> Karamchade?
>
> There is another surname for some of our families
> namely Aasooru. One of my elder clam man told that it
> could be Hosuru.
>
> The disinterst of the people of earlier days in
> putting anything writing has created a void in the
> micro history of some clans.
>
> I was told there is/was one Dr. Dhanammal in Mysore
> who conducted some researah into the social history of
> Vaishanavas. Is her work available anywhere to read?
>
> Interestingly we also do not speak or write Tamil!
> We follow all the traditions otherwise!
> Divya Prabandham though a necessary part of rituals is
> not very popular with us. No one knows it by heart
> perhaps. There are some who can do the Pustaka Patham.
> They also do not know the meaning of it. Even
> Tiruppavai is only a ritualistic recitation with us.
> Not many know it fully know it and understand the
> meaning. Only in major cities like Hyderabad the
> Festival and discourses in Telugu about Tiruppavai
> take place. Not in all the villages where the group is
> spread. Those elders who perform Araadhanam daily know
> it and recite it just like any other part of the
> ritual.
>
>
> Interstingly three very famous acharyas of
> parakalamatham came from this group.
>
> Elders may throw some light on this subject also just
> as they are doing about Hebbars!
>
>
> Gopalam Karamchedu
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