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Dear sri vaishNava perunthagaiyeer,

Continuing the maharshi naaradhaa's reply to sage valmeeki's questions "who is 
that man possesing 16 qualitites", we have already seen about 8 qualities. Now 
we will see the balance portion of the reply. 

1.      For the next Q of "vidhvaan = adept", the answer given by naaradha is 
raamaa is a
        budhDhimaan [sl.1-1-9] = adept; 
        vaagmee [sl. 1-1-9] = learned; 
        jnaana + sampanna [sl.1-1- 12] = prudent, proficient; 
                vEdha + vEdha + anga + thathvajna: [sl.1-1-14] = scholar in 
essence of vEdhaas, and its ancillaries; 
                dhanur vEdhE cha nishtitha: [sl. 1-1-14] = adept or expert in 
dhanur vEdham - the science of archery.
                sarva + saasthra + artha: + thathvajna: [sl.1-1-15] = knower of 
all scriptures, their meaning and their essence. When raamaa is so adequately 
described, is it necessary to say raamaa is a vidvaan also. 
                 
2.      For this Q of "ka: samartha: = capable or ablest one; the reply is 
again an indirect raama is "su + vi + krama: [sl.1-1-10] = good verily pacer 
[lion-like-pacer] - vikrama means powerful. Naaradhaa also says sathya 
paraakrama: - truth is his forte for his valour. This may not be a direct 
answer for who is samartha. 

3.      For the next point of who is "Eka + priya + dharsana: [sl.1-1-3] = 
uniquely good to look at" the answer given is very elaborate - perhaps 
naaradhaa wanted to describe raama in the very first stage - at the beginning 
itself - by way replying - so they are listed here :
4.      su + shiraa: [sl.1-1-10] = high [crowning] head; 
5.      su + lalaata:[sl.1-1-10] = amply broad and good looking forehead; 
6.      visaala +aksha: [sl.1-1-11] = wide, eyed; 
7.      mahaa + hanu: [sl.1-1-9] = high cheek bones.
8.      kambu + griiva: [sl.1-1-9] = neck like a conch-shell; 

9.      vipula + amsa: [sl.1-1-9] = broad shouldered; gooDha + jathru: = 
concealed collar bones [thick shouldered]; 
10.     mahaa + baahu: [sl.1-1-9] = great [dextrous] arms; aa + jaanu + baahuH= 
his arms hanging up and touching the knees [so lengthy armed]; 
11.     mahaa + uraska: [sl.1-1-10] = broad [lion-like] chested; 
                peena + vakshaa: [sl.1-1-11] = sinew chested; 
12.     mahaa + eshu + aasa: [sl.1-1-10] = has a long bow; 
13.     sama + vibhaktha + anga: [sl.1-1-11] = symmetrically divided 
[distributed - poised] limbs; 

14.     snigdha + varNa: [sl.1-1-11] = soft [glossy] coloured [complexioned]; 
15.     sama: [sl.1-1-11] = medium-sized [physically]; 
        16.     subha + lakshaNa: [sl.1-1-11] = providential, features.

        Sage naaradha concludes describing raama as 
'sreemaan [sl.1-1-13] = propitious; 
        'lakshmeevaan [sl.1-1-11] = prosperous [personality]' and 
        'sOmavath + priya + dharsana: [sl.1-1-18] = attractive to look at like 
a full-moon, 
        'sadhaa + eva + priya + darsana: [sl.1-1-16] = ever thus [the same] 
pleasant looking [ever a feast to the eye.]

1.      For the question "ka: aathmavaan = courageous" - naaradhaa replies 
raama is 
                prathaapavaan [sl.1-1- 11] = courageous one [or, resplendent 
one]; may be usage another word instead of the word used in question but 
meaning wise same. 

2.      For the question "ka: jitha krOdha: = controlled his ire, the answer is 
                "kaala + agni + sadhrsa: + krodhe [sl.1-1-18] = in anger 
matches to the fire at the end of an era; 
        but when it comes to perseverance then raamaa is 
        "kshamayaa + pruthvee + sama: [sl.1-1-18]  = in perseverance equals 
earth 
                - which means the senses are so controlled that when it is 
required he can be a rage, fire in anger, or extreme ire, on the other side in 
kshama  raama is earth like. So, again, an indirect answer is given.  

3.      dhyuthimaan = brilliant one; reply is also positive and in same tone, 
dhyuthimaan = brilliant one resplendent one; 

4.      This point is not answered by naaradha either directly or indirectly - 
who is "anasooyaka: =  not jealous". But in slokam 1-1-20 raamaa is described 
as 
        Evam + guna + sampannam = possessor of such merits 
        srEshta + guNai: + yuktham = embodied with best intrinsic values;  
        That describes what ever is left with like this one. 

5.      For the last question of "kasya bibhyathi + dhEvaa: + jaatha + rOshasya 
+ samyugE = by whom even gods are afraid when provoked in the matter of war", 
the answer is more direct 
        ripu: + ni + shoodhana: = complete eliminator of enemy [enemies]; 
        vishNunaa + sadhrsa + veeryE = in valour comparable with Vishnu. 
        The last point here is more emphatic- who is there to oppose vishNu in 
the dhEvalOkam. 

Thus all the 16 points are directly [aayes -10] and 6 are indirectly answered 
by naaradhaa [out of 16 asked by sage vaalmeeki] extolling raama. 

Will such a "glorious" and "paraakrama raama" will aim his kOthandam twice to 
go a small piece of tail of a deer, even though seethaa asked for it, while 
they resided in the "aaraNyam" - forest. This doubt comes to mind when we read 
the thyaagaraajaa's krithi "vaachaama gocharame" referred in post 1. [the 
pallavi is already given with meaning]

Now continuing with anupallavi 
rEchaari maareechuni padakagotti reNdOvaani sikikosagenE  
-- vaachaama
meaning: He has made the demon maareecha fall and killed the second person.

ST words the charaNam like 
maanavathee mathi neRigi chaamaram oudaga asthramu nEyakani
maanambugai medachaga maadhavuNdu kani karagi vEgamE  
dheenaarththi bhanjanudai praaNa dhaanambu osagamunu chanina
baaNambu nadu chedhara jEya lEdhaa? gaana lOla thyaagaraajanuthu mahima 
-- vaachaama

The meaning given in the book on thyaagaraaja krithis by AK Gopalan publishers 
[which I refer quite often] re- P 370-371 - [first in tamil - for full krithi] 
"pallavi: -O manamE, sangeethap priyanum thyaagaraajanaal vaNankappeRRavanum 
aana sree ramarudaiya mahimai vaakkukku ettaadhadhu. ennaal varNikka iyalumaa? 
Anupallavi: anRu arakkanaana maareechanaik kadalil thaLLi subhaahuvai eriththu 
vittaanE. 
CharaNam: pin aaraNyaththil seethaiyin viruppaththukku iNangi oru kavari maanin 
vaalai maaththiram  kaththarikka ambu pOda, ammaan adhai izhakka manam inRi 
thanadhu thalaiyaiyE meeNdum kodukka,  appozhudhu karunaiyOdu raaman vEroru 
baaNaththaal mudhalil anuppiyadhai sidhaRa adiththu maanin uyiraik 
kaakkavillaiyaa?"

Rough translation by MGV: [pl excuse for the crudeness in it]. 

Pallavi and anupallavi: oh my mind, is it possible for me to describe that 
raamaa's fame which is beyond words, about that raamaa who loves music, and is 
being worshipped by thyaagaraajaa. That day raakshasa maareecha was pushed into 
the sea and the second [subhahu] was burnt. 

CharaNam: The other day in the forest when seethaa wanted a cut piece of tail 
skin of the musk deer, he shot an arrow to cut the tail. but since that deer 
was ready to give his life rather than the tail, he shot second arrow to blow 
of the first arrow [which was supposed to cut the tail portion] and thus saved 
the deer life. [Such a raamaa's fame how can I describe which is beyond 
description].

Now my doubts or questions: 
1. Is there any reference in sreemadh raamaayanam that seethaa wanted a cut 
piece of tail of a deer? 

2. Is there any reference like, raama sending the arrow twice, as stated by ST 
[according the meaning given here] one to do the job of scissoring the tail, 
and second one to blast the first and thus save the deer? 

3. Or is it that ST is "painting a picture to project raamaa's glory" to show 
raamaa's sympathy even towards such creatures?

Dhaasan

Vasudevan m.g.
  
PS: I will give certain points for your consideration to the questions raised 
after getting some kind of response. 




 
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