Dear All: FYI.
You might be interested
in this note I sent to the Vaideekam Group
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of Chennai . He is also the owner of
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V.Sadagopan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vaideekam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Vaideekam] Birth & Shastram
SrI:
Dear AasthikAs :
As Sriman NVS Swamy graciously pointed out ,
(1) theettu is a big subject and (2)SaashthrAs should be
respected (3) JyOthisham and astrology are
different .
I will just record a few thoughts in a not too organized
manner to share some thoughts.
Our AchAryaas have recognized
the presence of those who want to know more
with questions like Why , How , what for etc .
They have also warned us not to get carried away too
far with such inquiries . As one who has been exposed to
both Scientific , rational method thru my six degrees in Science including
my Doctoral degree from the World's greastest Engineering
Educational Institution , Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
and 26 years work as a Research Scientist at IBM Research Division
and exposure to Vaideeka ways ( Bruhaspathy family for
multiple generations originating from PoundarIkapuram ) ,
I am beginning to understand the reasons for not having answers
to all the questions by following exclusively one route or the other
( Scientific or Saasthraic ) . I will any day trust
Swamy Desikan and his wonderful insights to conduct our lives
and AchAryA's anushtAnams rather than sterile science inspite of
its majesty and sweep . Let us take the best outputs from
Science and blend it with our own AchAryAs' upadEsams
to lead a harmonious life .
Yukthi Vaadhams have to be used as needed without stumbling ,
when one rides on these two horses .There may come a time
to some one , who would rather ride on one horse or the other
and feel fulfilled .
One has to put things in perspective and roll time back to when
it all started . This will put the necessity for AachAram in perspective .
Our PoorvALs were very compassionate, caring and insightful ones .
They understood personal hygiene and transmittal of infectious diseases ,
when there were no antibiotics and emergency wards .By following their
AchAram and ways laid out by their elders , they lived meaningful and long
lives ( Veda PrAyam) with purpose and KshEmam at every level
( personal, Family , their ancient Village , City and Raajyam) .
Now coming back to the scinetific and emotional side of theetu ,
there were a lot of exposure of infection to the Mother , who had
given birth . Purpeural fever and risk to the Mother and infant's lives
were real .The new Mother was confined to prasavam quarters for
ten days to reduce the infection from the relatives ( mingling
with the general population) reaching them . The mother's bodies were
allowed to rest and recoup with loving care in an emotionally
stable environment . The realtives were observing the theettu
in this context .All boils down to the microbes and maintain
an infection free environment as much as possible . Just compare
what is happening today .Modern G&O practises has averted
some of these calamities waiting to happen . Imagine what happened
in Europe from a host of devastating diseases in the middle ages and before
due to crowded society not being able to defend itself thru proper
quarentines .
In India ( even few decades ago) many lived in villages and rarely
travelled even farther than 25 miles beyond their places of residence .
Bullock carts had to be assembled for a day long journey to a neighboring
town . Every body knew everybody else and the marriages were organized
in tight circles . Even today , there are villages like NaavalpAkkam ,
where generations of scholars have lived without too much movement
outside except for travel to dhivya dEsams for Veda PaarAyaNam etc.
Students come to these scholars and stay in Guru Kulam mode .
Today with the advances in international travel made possible by Jet
travel, drug resistant TB , AIDs , Asian Flu and pandemics
are brought to one's doors very quickly .Our AchAram based on Vaideekam
roots was the first line of defense against these lurking dangers . Not
eating outside ( ParAnnam) was another line of defense . When they say ,
wash your hands often and scrub yourself well before surgery
in hospitals and doctors follow those instructions , the common ground
is the avoidance of infections and their spreadings in the commnity .
It is well established that the best places to be exposed to infections
are the hospitals .
Death Theettu : other than the emotional side of coping with personal loss
of different degrees of intensity , there were health related questions
when
some one passes away in joint families , which was in vogue in
those days . Immediate cremation was a necessity and house cleaning
was needed . No food was consumed in the houses untill
the immediate rites were taken care off . The (emotional and geographic)
degrees of seperation from the deceased ( diseased) also guided the number
of days
that one has to observe death theettu . It is very elaborate and sensible .
The Ahobila Matam Ahnikam book authored by the current Jeeyar
has a whole chapter on the Theetus and asouchams . You are
welcome to refer to it . adiyEn will also cover these items
in Ahobilavalli e-books .
One can go on and on ; I will however stop here and wait for
the well researched data base that Sriman NVS Swamy is planning
to construct on Theettu in a few months time . Meanwhile , on behalf of all
of us,
adiyEn thanks Sriman NVS Swamy for his single handed , tireless
Kaimkaryams that he does to serve the community of AasthikAs from
such divergent backgrounds ever so patiently .
NamO Sri NrusimhAya ,
Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan
http://www.sundarasimham.org
http://www.sadagopan.org
http://www.ahobilavalli.org
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> Thanks sriman Sadagopachar swamin,
> He well explained both scientifically and Sampradayam base, everything
> behind the birth and death theetu.
> Swami is supporting me (every one like me) in a critical situation like
> this. Some can understood the facts behind a >thing, but few (like swamy
> Sadagopachar) only can explain it to others in good manner. For me it is
> too dificult to >explain things in English for which I have not practiced
> so far.
> Again thanks to Swamin.
>
> Yesterday I read a Sloka in "Neethi Sastram"
> "Jyauthisham vyvahaarancha praayaschithhtham chikithsanam|
> vinaa shasthrena yo bruyaaththamaahu: braahma ghaathukam||"
> -- Sloka No: 179
>
> It means Jyothisham, vyavahaaram, praayaschiththam, Chikithsai (vaidhyam)
> told without shastram will attain the paapam equal to brahma haththi
> (Killing a brahmnan).
> nvs
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