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SrI :

Dear Sriman VenkatEsa VinOd :

Thank you for your mail below .

I will attempt to provide an  input on AzhwArs follows next on
SampradhAyic dates for AzhwArs .They span from DhvApara Yugam to
the present Kali Yugam . With the dates of Mudhal AzhwArs in
DhvApara Yugam , the dates of MahA Bhaaratham war , RaamAyaNam
gets pushed far back into antiquity .

There are a variety of sources on Guru Parampara :

(1) AzhwAr's own references in their dhivya Prabhandham
about the Kings ( ThriunaRayUr  , ParamEswara ViNNagara PaasurangaL),
Para Mathams . PeriyAzhwAr refers to KonedumARan , the PaanDya King
in Periya Thirumozhi Paasuramin PeriyAzhwAr Thirumozhi : 4.2.7.
Refers to some Pallava Kings in his Thirumozhi . Thirumangai refers to
PallavA king in his  ParamEswara ViNNagara Paasurams (1128-1137)
and about Sempian KochenkkOtcchOzhan in his ThiruNaRayUr Paasurams
( 1498-1507) .

2) Dhivya Soori Cahritham : Author , Garuda Vaahaana PanDithar in Sanskrit .
He lived in Acharya RaamAnujA's time and wrote in Sanskrit .

3) PinpazhahArAm PerumAL Jeeyar , Sishyar of Swamy NampiLlai:
AaRAyirappadi Guru parampararA PrabhAvam .

4) Swamy Desikan's Sri Sookthi in Desika Prabhandham

5) Swamy MaNavALa Maamuni's UpadEsa Rathna Maala .

6) The Three thousand Padi Guru ParamparA PrabhAvam of
Brahma Tantra Svatantra Swamy III .

7) PrapannAmrutham of Sri AnanthAchArya Swamy (Sanskrit).

8) SrI AaNpiLLai KanthAdaiappan: Periya Thirumudi adaivu.

9)Koil Ozhuhu of Srirangam . This ays that KulasEkharar ,
the king of Chera, Cozha and Paandya dEsams gave his
daughter's hand in marriage to Lord Ranganatha in the 50th
year of Kali at Srirangam and Lord Ranganatha married
ANDAL at Srivilliputthur on the 105th year of Kali Yugam .

10) The various Taniyans Vaazhi ThirunAmam of AchAryAs .

11) Mayilai Maadhava Daasan's NaalAyira Dhivya Prabhandham ,
Second Edition , 1950.

It is thus a multitude of sources , which has to be cross correlated .
It will take quite an effort by an assembly of scholars to determine
the exact dates . Let us list the sampradhAyic dates aleaned from
the above sources . It follows your original message .

V.Sadagopan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sgopan" <sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: Fw: [desikasampradaya] Digest Number 940


> Message: 1
>   Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:22:02 -0700 (PDT)
>   From: vinod sv <winode_sv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A peep into thousand years of the history of Sri VaishNavam :
> part IV
>
> SrI:
> SrImatE rAmAnujAya nama:
> SrI lakshmI narasimha parabrahmaNE nama:
>
> poojya SrI sadagopan swami,
>
> praNAmam.
>
> In your series of history of SrI vaishNavam, you
> presented us with the modern scholors' approximate
> dates of our AcharyAs and different events. May I
> request you to provide us with the dates that
> sAmpradAya holds. The opinion of scientists verily
> depends only on the AVAILABLE evidence, which may not
> be complete always. But on behalf of the believers of
> sat-AchAryAs and sAmpradAya, I request you the
> above-said.
>
> thanking you,
>
> dAsOham,
> SrIperumbUdUru vEnkaTa vinOd.

The SampradhAyic Dates and Places of AzhwArs( Ref: #11)
**************************************************************
1. Poygai :  Iypaasi SravaNam , DhwApara Yugam ,
SiddhArthi Samvathsaram , Iypaasi , SuklAshtami , Tuesday , SravaNa
Nakshathram .B.C.E 4202 .

2. BhUtham : DhvApara Yugam , SiddhArthi Samvathsaram , Iypaasi ,
Sukla Navami , Wednesday , DhanishtA/Avitta Nakshathram .

3. pEy AzhwAr : Same Yugam , Same year , Iyppasi Sukla Dasami ,
Sathaya Nakshathram .

All tthe three Mudhal AzhwArs were born a day after following
Poygai AzhwAr on SuklAshtami thithi in DhvApara Yugam ( 4202 B.C.E )

4. Thirumazhisai : DhvApara Yugam , Thai Month , KrishNa Paksha PraTamai ,
Sunday , Maka Nakshathram . B.C.E 3224 is given as the date . His date is in
between
B.C.E 4202 and 3224 , the birth year of Madhura Kavi .

5.  Madhura Kavi : B.C.E 3224. Iswara Year , Chitthirai , Sukla Chathurthi ,
Friday ,
ChithrA Nakshathram .

6. Swamy NammAzhwAr : on the  43rd Day after birth of Kali Yugam ( B.C.E
3102) .
PramATi Year , VaikAsi  PourNami , Friday , VisAka Nakshathram.

7. KulasEkharar :  Kali Yugam 28th Year ( B.C.E 3075) . Paraabhava
Samvathsaram , Maasi Sukla DhwAdai , Friday , Punar Poosam /Punarvasu
Nakshathram of Sri Raamachandra .

8.PeriyAzhwAr : 47th Year of Kali Yugam ( B.C.E 3056) , KurOdhana
Samvathsaram , Aani , Sukla EkAdasi , Sunday , Swaathi Nakshathram .

9.ANDAL :98th year of  Kali( B.C.E 3005) . NaLa Samvathsaram ,
Aadi Sukla Chathurthi Tithi , Tuesday , Poora Nakshathram .

10. ThoNDaradippodi AzhwAr : 289th year of Kali Yugam ( B.C.E 2814),
Prabhava Samvathsaram , Maarghazhi , KrishNa Paksha Chathurdasi ,
Tuesday , JyEshtA/Kettai Nakshathram .

11. ThiruppANar : 343rd year of Kali Yugam ( B.C.E. 2760) , Dhurmathi
Samvathsaram , Kaarthikai Month , KrishNa paksha Dhvitheeyai ,
Wednesday , RohiNi Nakshathram .

12. Thirumangai : 398th year of Kali Yugam ( 2714 B.C.E ) , NaLa
Samvathsaram ,
Kaarthikai month , PourNami , KritthikA Nakshathram , Thursday .

Thus AzhwAr's avathAra Kaalams span in the sampradhAyic view from
DhvApara Yugam B.C.E 4202 to Kali Yugam 2714 B.C.E ( A time span of
1488 Years ) . MOdern day researchers have used a variety of sources to
place the AzhwAr's times between 5th and the 10th centurues ,  a time span
of 500 years .

AzhwAr , EmperumAnAr , AchAryarkaL ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam ,
V.Sadagopan






 
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