Dear SwAmin, Very grateful for the scholarly references. It is very useful to know the nuances and niceties of the traditional "vyAkhyAnam". But I must add here that the focus of my series is far more on the subject of "kaama" than on the TiruppAvai per se. I am taking the liberty however of forwarding your mail to the Tiruvenkatam Group for the benefit of members there who would be interested too. Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan ******************* --- In Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Padmanabhan" <aazhwar@...> wrote: > > Dear svami, > > A small clarification. > Sri ANDAL has come a long way and talked about the means in the 28th pAsuram of ThriuppAvai. The 29th is one where the 'end' is being spelt out explciitly. > > 2. Sri Azhagiaya maNavALap perumAL-The commentator of the ARAyirappaDi vyAkyanam- questions whether Sri ANDAL would request the Lord at this juncture to remove other desires. Their only desire now is service at the feet of the Lord -nE kuThEval engaLaik koLLAmal pOgAdhu. > > 3. Then what does maThai nam kAmangaL maThu at this juncture cannotes? > a. Sri PeriyavAchAn PilLLai's nAlayirappaDi > nAngaL 'engaLukku' enRu irukkumadhuvum, , nEyum 'ivargaLukku' enRu irukkum adhuvum -ivai iraNdum-virOadhi AgaiyAlEa , athai thavirthu thara vEaNum engiRargaL. > > The Service should not be done with a self motive. This is being requested to be removed by the terms ' mathai nam kAmangaL mAThu' > > b. Sri Azhagiay maNavALap perumAL nAyanAr's ARAyirappADi. > > Apart from pont 2 above, the term kAmangaL is explained in this context. > ..vishaya vaiLakshanyathAlum Asrayathin inimaiyAlum, migavum prEthi rupamAyiREa parimARRam iruppadhu. adhil svarUpathukku virOdhiyAna ahankAra garpamAna adimaiyum apurushArthamiREa. > > Due to the greatness of the subject matter and the sweetness the excange between the jEvAthmA and the ParamAtmA is bound to be very emotional and joyful. However, during the excange and service there is a possiblity of emergence of ego during the service. This ego and self-conscious service is sought to be removed by the terms 'maRRai nam kAmangaL maRRu' > > 4. This is being corroborated by coherence of the 28th and 29th pAsuram at a macro level by Sri Azhagiya maNavALap PerumAL nAyanAr in the ARAyirAppaDi. > > 'kaRavaigaL pin senRu' enRu--upAyAnthrithalEA anvyama sollugaiyAlum....svarUpa virOdhi kazhindha padi solliRRu. > > in the 28th pAsuram namely -kaRavaigaL pin senRu -the means procedure is clearly detailed and the hurdles/defects in the means stage is removed. > > ippATTil -muRkURRAl -mARRai nam kAmangaL mARRu - engiRadhAL -pala virOdhiyai kazhikkiRadhu > > That is, in the 29th pAsuram namely, SiRRam siRu kAlEa - by the words -mARRai nam-kAmangaL mARRu- the defects at the end/goal stage is remvoed.That > is the end stage being Service to the Lord -which has also been clearly spelt out as 'kuRREaval' and the defect in the end stage being egotism and self-conscous act of service is sought to be removed. > > > 5. This is further, correlated to Thriumandhiram. > > GovindhA -vunakku - AkArathai sollugiRadhu. > > vunakkEa --------------vukArathai sollugiRadhu. > > nAm ------------------enRu makArathai sollugiRadhu. > > vundhannOADu vuRRomEAvOm-----------nArAyaNa padhathin artham solliRRu > > eRRaikkum yEzh yEAzh piRavikkum ---engaiyAlEa chadurthiyiartham sollithu. > > maRRai nam-kAmangaL mARRu ---engaiyAlEa namassil artham solliRRu > > 'nam' refers to not for me but for Him and for His sake. That is service for Him and not for ourselves. > > > > Summary: Therefore, going through the abvoe vyAkyAnam-s the terms 'maRRai nam-kAmangaL mARRu ' in the 29th pAsuram of ThriuppAvai refers to seeking of removal of defects at the stage of Service to the Lord and not removal of other desires. > > adiyEan > > rAmAnuja dAsan > vanamamalai padmanabhan ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/XUWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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